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Teen Jailed As Terrorist Threat - Making Sarcastic Comment

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:43 am

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Global News / By Nicole Bogart
Teen Jailed As Terrorist Threat After Making Sarcastic Comments on Facebook
Justin Carter has spent four months behind bars for making what his mother described as a “very, very stupid comment.”

June 30, 2013 |


TORONTO – The family of a U.S. teen is fighting for his freedom after he was jailed for terrorist threats over what his parents describe as sarcastic comments.

18-year-old Justin Carter engaged in an argument on Facebook over the online game “League of Legends” in February when another user started calling him crazy and saying he was “messed up in the head.”

Carter fired back replying, “Oh yeah, I’m real messed up in the head, I’m going to go shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still, beating hearts.”

The next lines the teen typed were “LOL” (laugh out loud) and “JK” (joking).

But an anonymous user from Canada who saw the posts didn’t find it funny.

According to reports, the user used Google to look up Carter’s name and found an address in Texas linked to the teen – that was located near an elementary school – and filed a complaint with local authorities.

Carter was later taken into custody and charged with making a terrorist threat.

Four months later, Carter remains in jail – his parents unable to afford his half a million dollar bond – all for making what his mother described as a “very, very stupid comment on Facebook.”

During a phone interview with Global News, Justin’s mother Jennifer Carter described her son as a typical 18-year-old boy who had never been in trouble before.

She noted that her son has “a dark sense of humor” but that he is a creative boy who likes to write zombie stories, play video games and loves children.

“When I first saw the threat I honestly didn’t take it seriously for a second – he babysits, he hangs out with our friends’ little kids, he likes to teach them how to play video games – he loves kids,” Jennifer Carter told Global News.

“We thought they [the police] would see that he was a teenager being sarcastic on Facebook – but he sat in jail for about a month before he was questioned.”

Though Justin was arrested on February 14 he was not questioned by the police until March 13.

Carter said that during questioning her son admitted to the Facebook posts, acknowledging that what he wrote was wrong and that he was sorry, but enforcing the fact that he wrote the post sarcastically.

A search of Justin’s home was completed by police a week later, but no weapons were found – the only item seized from the teen’s home was his computer.

Jennifer started a petition on the website Change.org asking for her son’s release. She believes that Justin is being held unfairly, claiming that the police have failed to make a case that he is an imminent or likely threat to public safety.

The petition had garnered over 4,000 signatures by Friday afternoon.

“They wanted him to sign for eight years in prison, but he’s refusing to sign because he doesn’t feel that he’s done anything worthy of prison time,” said Carter.

She plans to present the petition to the police once they have gathered enough signatures.

In the mean time Justin’s family continues to fight for his freedom and what they say is a violation of his first amendment right to free speech while he’s in prison.

“Before all of this media attention he was in a pretty hopeless place,” said Carter.

“This has been an eye opener for him – he’s not been treated very well – jail is not a place where you can expect safety.”

Carter said her son has been transferred more than once due to other inmates harassing him and picking on him.

“He’s has a very tough time in jail and I worry about him constantly – I have trouble sleeping at night,” said an audibly distraught Carter.

“It’s just really hard… I understand him having to go through this if he had done something violent or hurt someone… but it’s just something he said on a website.”

The family’s lawyer has suggested that Justin be released on probation with community service to talk to other teens about the dangers of what they say online. The family hopes that by sharing their story they can show other teens that they need to be careful about what they say online.

“I hope that teenagers realize that the stuff they are posting in anger or saying online in a social environment, such as Facebook or Twitter, is being seen by people that don’t know you… don’t understand you sense of humour,” said Carter.

“A lot of teens don’t think about the larger context about what they are saying on social networks.”
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Re: Teen Jailed As Terrorist Threat - Making Sarcastic Comme

Postby slimmouse » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:22 pm

I wonder if this case is included in the number of terrorist threats that have been thwarted courtesy of the "intelligence" community ?

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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:26 pm

This is fucked. Thank you for the reminder to disengage from social media.
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Postby slimmouse » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:46 pm

Wombaticus Rex » 01 Jul 2013 16:26 wrote:This is fucked. Thank you for the reminder to disengage from social media.


I was rather hoping that the message to someone like yourself WR , would be to engage more. Its becoming increasingly clear that this really is the big one.

I might also have added that anyone who decides they need to engage, choose their words very carefully, but in your case I didnt, given your truly wonderful lexicon which has illustrated that youre in full control there, literally speaking at least.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:56 pm

hmmm..... jailed for using words....or what someone thought those words meant
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Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:12 pm

Yeah, some people can be real jackasses when they do not realize the impact their words have on others.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:13 pm

yea and I guess they can be jailed for it....you're all up with that?....mindreader

watch what you say some one might take offense :roll: AND PUT YOUR ASS IN PRISON


for using words that people don't like
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:29 pm

Iamwhomiam » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:12 pm wrote:Yeah, some people can be real jackasses when they do not realize the impact their words have on others.




Oh Ms. Nanny please save us from all those god awful words we're unable to digest on our own...we are all so very stupid....calling a person a jackass for using a word .....how authoritarian of you :roll:

just so everyone here knows Iamwhomiam is calling me a jackass although she does not have the guts to post it outright...hiding her personal attack...how brave of you

maybe I don't like the word jackass maybe that word has a horrible impact on me ..what about my feelings :P


heaven knows where they will end up next

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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:00 pm

Let's not do this again. I would like to ask you both to please, stop the sniping.

Iamwhoiam, "real jackasses" is not subtle: please don't poke your fellow RI members like that.
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Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:02 pm

Everyone knows slad's attempt to verbally emasculate, castrate me is plainly obvious, off topic and insulting to our gay members, and demeaning to all who post here. She certainly knows I am a male, a father, a grandfather and a great grandfather of two.

What I wrote was referring to the immaturity of a 12 year old boy being incapable of understanding the true weight of his words, while knowing he was being a jackass.

Perfectly clear now for all to understand.

He's a boy from whom such behaviors should be expected, but from a 50 plus year old woman?

Now, I value many of her opinions and know also she has the luxury of being our most prolific poster and well admired, but this childish behavior of hers one of our mods should put an end to.

Someone needs a time-out.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:04 pm

Iamwhomiam » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:02 pm wrote:Everyone knows slad's attempt to verbally emasculate, castrate me is plainly obvious, off topic and insulting to our gay members, and demeaning to all who post here. She certainly knows I am a male, a father, a grandfather and a great grandfather of two.

What I wrote was referring to the immaturity of a 12 year old boy being incapable of understanding the true weight of his words, while knowing he was being a jackass.

Perfectly clear now for all to understand.

He's a boy from whom such behaviors should be expected, but from a 50 plus year old woman?

Now, I value many of her opinions and know also she has the luxury of being our most prolific poster and well admired, but this childish behavior of hers one of our mods should put an end to.

Someone needs a time-out.


I HAD NO IDEA WHAT GENDER YOU ARE...OH MY GOD STOP ACCUSING ME OF ALL THIS CRAP....I KNEW NOTHING OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING....


THIS IS BEYOND BELIEF TO ACCUSE ME OF THIS IS ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDING AND SICKENING

Everyone knows slad's attempt to verbally emasculate, castrate me is plainly obvious, off topic and insulting to our gay members, and demeaning to all who post here. She certainly knows I am a male, a father, a grandfather and a great grandfather of two.



I HAVE NEVER BOTHERED TO FIND OUT ANYTHING ABOUT YOU PERSONALLY NOTHING STOP IT STOP IT NOW


WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU GETTING THIS GAY INSULT THING????? I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT...SHUT THE FUCK UP RIGHT NOW ...THIS IS THE LAST STRAW YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO THIS TO ME ANY LONGER SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS CRAP


YEA Someone needs a time-out. AND IT BETTER BE YOU FOR YOUR WILD UNSUPPORTED CRAZY ALLEGATIONS


I just went to your profile for the first time I don't see a gender there ...I had no idea you were a male no idea you where a father or grandfather I never cared at all about anything of your personal life....you are beyond belief

as a matter of fact every time I see your name Iamwhomiam I think it is saying I am a woman..and that's exactly what I thought


how the hell would I know you were a father....a grandfather ....or great grandfather....I didn't even know you were a male till 5 minutes ago?
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Postby Bruce Dazzling » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:50 pm

Ok, you've both (slad and Iamwhomiam) had your say with regards to personal comments about one another.

No more discussion of posters. Discuss the topic or don't post.
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Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:38 pm

Bruce, In that I've been repeatedly called a liar by slad and I'm unable to respond without being penalized, I ask for you to lock this thread.

It is an unfair and unwarranted attack, but most of all it is untrue. And I've provided another mod with slad's own words to verify this.

If you do lock it, for the reason I stated I feel you should, I will re-initiate another with the OP and a link to the petition.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:44 pm

This thread will not be locked
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