David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

[norton ash]

^^ Barracuda! (I sang it like Ann Wilson even.) Well done.

Loosechangers, Zeitgeisters, Ickeans, Icy Reds, Larouchies, Birchers, and other people of the book with a faith-based explanation of everything ... none of 'em

present a serious and legitimate version of history, the world and how the world works?

MIB

acceptable to a critical thinker. But they diligently work to tell us our terrible story, and urge us to do something about our bad situation. They broadcast 'secrets' and alternative history that should be considered by all sentient and sensitive beings... but usually for the wrong reasons, and with an agenda or a fucked-up closing thesis.

Racism and dehumanization of the 'enemy' isn't acceptable, equally unacceptable is putting all those who don't agree with you into satan's army.

Archons are possible. Reptilians are possible. Tulpas are possible. That we are a 'simulation' is possible (I've seen people shape-shift into Monitor Lizards... but so did Hunter Thompson. What is another dimension, and what is a brain improvising because it's full of new chemicals is another subject entirely.)

Gnostic on one main thing, agnostic on all else. The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.

And asking what this 'board' thinks of Icke, whether he would find fervent defenders or detractors here... you ain't really from these parts. (Although, yes, there are some august chicken-egg attorneys here.) Is Icke dangerous? Yes. So is South Park. Is Icke useful? Yes. Should Icke be stricken from RI? No. Rinse and repeat with James Randi.

Mason B. ... I think you'd like to drive people to your skeptic site, while you try to dismiss RI as corrupt for its occasional tolerance of possible proponents of intolerance, flim-flammers, left-hand-pathfinders, boldfaced liars, and those with a highly suspect agenda... see Icke, Randi...

The history of humans... if they turned into reptiles and sucked blood whenever Mars pulled them... that's pretty much a misdemeanor in the pageant of human evil. Suggesting that if one cabal were eliminated we'd finally be 'free' is more criminal. Keeping your mouth shut about horrible crimes is very bad... providing spin or smokescreens to hide the crimes, very bad....

I'm working on the secret history of this Thursday. The conclusions will shock you.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE. (Hey, how we doing? I woke up early, so I made pancakes. Want some?)

[Mason I Bilderberg]

Okay, gotta sign off for a while. (It's A LOT of work orchestrating world events.)



MIB

[American Dream]

there's a whole lot of things you have wrong about me A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS but that never stops you from posting crap like that

Are you willing to say what the truth is?

is no one going to ask AD to stop this? SLAD has indicated that she has no desire to answer this pointed question and has by her other collected posts, in fact, already answered it.

This seems to just be harassment for no good reason other than AD seems to think that if he can point to a question that SLAD refuses to answer he somehow wins something.

It's not harassment- it seems pretty basic to understanding her position but she clearly doesn't want to say. This leaves it to others to interpret her actual position based only on the information available. which is not great for anybody, really...

[seemslikeadream]

there's a whole lot of things you have wrong about me A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS but that never stops you from posting crap like that

Are you willing to say what the truth is?

If you'd take your head out of this thread and your own mega thread maybe just maybe you would be able to tell quite easily, I might add...what the truth is about me...what I really care about...(because what I am is what I care about, what I post about) go back 1 year like bhp did....go fuckin back 9 fuckin years here and check out my posts....I have a record here and it's 9 YEARS OLD....check it out sometime....and then maybe you can stop running your mouth off about who I am and what I think about most in my life here at RI....DO IT I DARE YOU

hell go back to DemocraticUnderground to 2002 check out my 40,000 post there and tell me who you think I am but until you do that YOU DON'T HAVE A FUCKIN' CLUE WHO I AM OR WHAT I THINK...so I wish you would stop pretending to know me at all....YOU DO NOT!


I don't answer questions from people I have no respect for...unless I have some time to waste

[American Dream]

there's a whole lot of things you have wrong about me A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS but that never stops you from posting crap like that

Are you willing to say what the truth is?

If you'd take your head out of this thread and your own mega thread maybe just maybe you would be able to tell quite easily, I might add...what the truth is about me...what I really care about...(because what I am is what I care about, what I post about) go back 1 year like bhp did....go fuckin back 9 fuckin years here and check out my posts....I have a record here and it's 9 YEARS OLD....check it out sometime....and then maybe you can stop running your mouth off about who I am and what I think about most in my life here at RI....DO IT I DARE YOU

hell go back to DemocraticUnderground to 2002 check out my 40,000 post there and tell me who you think I am but until you do that YOU DON'T HAVE A FUCKIN' CLUE WHO I AM OR WHAT I THINK...so I wish you would stop pretending to know me at all....YOU DO NOT!

Slad, you have almost 10,000 posts here and 40,000 there. I don't have the time or energy to go through all that. Is there any place you can point to where you lay out your position(s) on Icke and/or your history with posting conspiracy material?

I would like to better understand where you're coming from.

[compared2what?]

So is it bad to be a military contractor or something? Inherently, I mean?

I strongly disagree with the U.S. military- would never want to help them do what they do. I might consider helping patch up wounded employees if they were done working and not going back to military service. But I'm so fundamentally opposed to their mission that I would never knowingly help fulfill it.

I guess Bart Farkas (JREF writer discrediting HeartMath) has some questionable motives then. Or maybe he didn't realize who he was working for at the time. Either way, not a great background for a specialist debunker. or am I wrong?

I wouldn't say it was a debunking.

It was a mild, accurate, not particularly in-depth assessment of a company and one of its products that most people (who didn't base their opinions on what they'd been told and unquestioningly taken on faith) would just have thought it was dull, if a little out of character.

[slimmouse]

Its an interesting philosophical discussion to ask what is the bigger danger of such people. The fact that they are lying to us, or that they are lying to themselves?

In your mind "they" can only be lying? No other possibilities?

You know what, youre right. I didnt frame that very well. Nice spot.

I'll reprhrase. How does "in too many cases intentionally decieving others and in the vast majority of cases decieving themselves sound?"

Now that ive framed it that way, I would say Ive got all bases covered.

I mean take yourself for example. "There are no Govnt conspirators "

Can you look yourself in the mirror and seriously say that you believe that in your heart of hearts?

When James Clapper can go in front of congress, and lie bare faced to them, do you attribute that to a man in an ultimate position of responsibility having any kind of mental fart we might care to imagine ? Or is he in fact a Govnt conspirator?

Ive surely got all my bases covered there.

[seemslikeadream]

there's a whole lot of things you have wrong about me A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS but that never stops you from posting crap like that

Are you willing to say what the truth is?

If you'd take your head out of this thread and your own mega thread maybe just maybe you would be able to tell quite easily, I might add...what the truth is about me...what I really care about...(because what I am is what I care about, what I post about) go back 1 year like bhp did....go fuckin back 9 fuckin years here and check out my posts....I have a record here and it's 9 YEARS OLD....check it out sometime....and then maybe you can stop running your mouth off about who I am and what I think about most in my life here at RI....DO IT I DARE YOU

hell go back to DemocraticUnderground to 2002 check out my 40,000 post there and tell me who you think I am but until you do that YOU DON'T HAVE A FUCKIN' CLUE WHO I AM OR WHAT I THINK...so I wish you would stop pretending to know me at all....YOU DO NOT!

Slad, you have almost 10,000 posts here and 40,000 there. I don't have the time or energy to go through all that. Is there any place you can point to where you lay out your position(s) on Icke and/or your history with posting conspiracy material?

I would like to better understand where you're coming from.

No and that's the point! Thanks for making it eloquently

but be my guest you're the one running your mouth off all the time ...Mr. know it all....maybe you should know what you're talking about before posting...it would help

[seemslikeadream]

Its an interesting philosophical discussion to ask what is the bigger danger of such people. The fact that they are lying to us, or that they are lying to themselves?

In your mind "they" can only be lying? No other possibilities?

You know what, youre right. I didnt frame that very well. Nice spot.

I'll reprhrase. How does "in too many cases intentionally decieving others and in the vast majority of cases decieving themselves sound?"

Now that ive framed it that way, I would say Ive got all bases covered.

I mean take yourself for example. "There are no Govnt conspirators "

Can you look yourself in the mirror and seriously say that you believe that in your heart of hearts?

When James Clapper can go in front of congress, and lie bare faced to them, do you attribute that to a man in an ultimate position of responsibility having some kind of mental fart? Or is he a Govnt conspirator?

James Clapper!!!!

They don't care about James Clapper! We are to be distracted from REAL issues...REAL enemies...REAL people that intend and have the capability to destroy us....sometimes I play their game ....when I'm waiting for paint to dry....waiting for a paper to load...or for some actual substantive important issue to look at....but at the end of the day we are to be distracted by this crap..... NOT

It amuses me what some people think is so very important...says so much more about them

SAVE THE WORLD FROM DAVID ICKE

give me a fuckin break..

[American Dream]

there's a whole lot of things you have wrong about me A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS but that never stops you from posting crap like that

Are you willing to say what the truth is?

If you'd take your head out of this thread and your own mega thread maybe just maybe you would be able to tell quite easily, I might add...what the truth is about me...what I really care about...(because what I am is what I care about, what I post about) go back 1 year like bhp did....go fuckin back 9 fuckin years here and check out my posts....I have a record here and it's 9 YEARS OLD....check it out sometime....and then maybe you can stop running your mouth off about who I am and what I think about most in my life here at RI....DO IT I DARE YOU

hell go back to DemocraticUnderground to 2002 check out my 40,000 post there and tell me who you think I am but until you do that YOU DON'T HAVE A FUCKIN' CLUE WHO I AM OR WHAT I THINK...so I wish you would stop pretending to know me at all....YOU DO NOT!

Slad, you have almost 10,000 posts here and 40,000 there. I don't have the time or energy to go through all that. Is there any place you can point to where you lay out your position(s) on Icke and/or your history with posting conspiracy material?

I would like to better understand where you're coming from.

No and that's the point! Thanks for making it eloquently

but be my guest you're the one running your mouth off all the time ...Mr. know it all....maybe you should know what you're talking about before posting...it would help

So if I don't understand your position on the fundamental points of Icke's platform and misunderstand something about your history with the Internet and conspiracies, then it's my fault because I won't dig through and read your 50,000 posts?

[seemslikeadream]

well if you can't do your own homework then shut the fuck up because I ain't doing it for you...I've wasted way too much time in this thread already....


and I do mean WASTED...

[brainpanhandler]

you cannot NOT see a sad face here:

Actually I see bemusement with maybe a slight tinge of anger.

And there's some sort of weird caped shadow hornet man reflected in the glass to the left.

[compared2what?]

The brain can't help it, we are hardwired in ways beyond our control.

If you mean that somatosensory perception's neither voluntary -- ie, you don't have to choose to see light or feel cold -- that's true, loosely speaking.

Kind of a leap to go from that to "we are hardwired in ways beyond our control," though. Misleading, too. I mean, we have autonomic nervous systems. It's a part of life.

There are a number of other ways the brain is hardwired which can cause us to misinterpret the world and the "cause and effect" patterns that surround us everywhere.

Are any of them more likely to lead to consequential misinterpretations of the world than the inability not to see a sad little clock without losing sight of the fact that clocks don't have feelings, thanks to out perfectly intact, operational and (in many cases) voluntarily controlled mental processes?

Because if they're not, what does that have to do with anything?

[compared2what?]

Actually I see bemusement with maybe a slight tinge of anger.

I would have said "hurt and bewildered."

And there's some sort of weird caped shadow hornet man reflected in the glass to the left.

You're right. His mask must just have slipped for the first time, or something like that.

Poor little clock. He trusted that guy.

[slimmouse]

So if I don't understand your position on the fundamental points of Icke's platform and misunderstand something about your history with the Internet and conspiracies, then it's my fault because I won't dig through and read your 50,000 posts?

AD, Im sorry. But if you don't get where slad is coming from yet, then youre once again a serious disappointment to me.

Do you have any interesting recent news about the ongoing march to global hitech mindcontrolled serfdom and tyranny that ulitmately involves almost every last fucking one of us?

A kind of Randian Utopia where the only reality that exists is the one that they tell you exists?

Slad's revealed a lot of it lately.