David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

[Canadian_watcher]

oh for fuck's sake.

who among us are the mind controlled, thought stopped? it's really really really obvious what the answer is at this point, so I'm out. I tried.
No dialog to be had, just an endless game of chase the goal posts.

[82_28]

You just might want to go somewhere where there are Icke "supporters" to determine this. What I am particularly fascinated by is that you're so fascinated by something so stupid and unprovable that you think because it is subject material here means "whoa, check out what Icke said in 2003. You guys seen this yet?"

The fascination is all yours. Keep it up. Do you really think that anyone seriously entertains literal reptilian shapeshifters as a reasoning for the existence of this board? Jesus H Christ. One tracked minds are fascinating to me for instance.

I can, for one, entertain the idea and not believe in it but also refrain from being a dick about what I think somebody else is thinking, let alone an entire board of people who are perfectly able to see what bullshit is. Subjects are subjects. I just am personally impervious to believing that thar be lizirds under that human skin, but the phenomenon of such a thing is what is most fascinating. Not to debunk it, because well, fuck that shit. Not every last thing needs to be proven or disproven as skeptics love to engage themselves in. Use your own head and I'll use mine.

You people think everyone is a fool because you have obsessed over what others ought to believe according to you. This fascinates me. Here, just for the fuck of it, I got me a blog too. And it just occurred to me that I just wrote this the other night and I offer it as an example.

http://www.earlyclues.com/2013/07/02/li ... ut-an-rpg/

Here's what we do: we have a fake ass company that is totally for real. Make sense? But you, MIB, would take it totally serious (which you should) but need not to. It's up to you. It's up to the user. What and who is the "user"? I have no idea. It's the phenomenon and where your heart is. We take technocrats head on and that's just a little secret I shouldn't be divulging in interest of my cohorts. We mean to confound in an interest of self empowerment and empathy in order for you to help yourself. It's pure jargon with a pure heart because what else is there.

So, to recap, fuck Icke and fuck your Internet persona but blessings to whoever you are in real life. There's nothing interesting about it as you do not view phenomena as a "thing" in and of itself. I'm going back to sleep now, but MIB, we will be offering a product to you later in the day.

[seemslikeadream]

somebody should tell him there are WAY more important things going on in this world.....but maybe he already knows this and continues to distract from it....WHY that is MY QUESTION TO HIM AND TO AD...WHY IS THIS SO VERY VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE 34 PAGES OF THIS SHIT BLASTED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS BOARD I FIND IT INSULTING TO RI


I'd like MY question answered


do you see these people below....they...each and every one of them deserve 34 pages not fuckin Icke

[Mason I Bilderberg]

Fuck this guy, MIB. He can get lost as far as I am concerned. His name is stupid, his website is incurious and he's a dick. Fuck him and ban him. Also, fuck David Icke. I don't get a bit of it. I don't buy it but can see fascination and relate to the fascinating subject he seems to espouse. I've seen enough David Lynch and read enough Philip K. Dick and also a disciple of Sagan's Demon Haunted World to say to MIB is a fool. I hope he sticks around though actually. There's nothing more fun than dealing with a humorless cocksucker on the many meta levels he senses he has the grip on and misses the entire forest. Let's see if he can chill out and converse as opposed to his extra special abilities of being perfect. I very much doubt it. I look forward to being proven wrong.

I take it you don't believe alien-human hybrids exist?

[Mason I Bilderberg]

Fuck this guy, MIB. He can get lost as far as I am concerned. His name is stupid, his website is incurious and he's a dick. Fuck him and ban him. Also, fuck David Icke. I don't get a bit of it. I don't buy it but can see fascination and relate to the fascinating subject he seems to espouse. I've seen enough David Lynch and read enough Philip K. Dick and also a disciple of Sagan's Demon Haunted World to say to MIB is a fool. I hope he sticks around though actually. There's nothing more fun than dealing with a humorless cocksucker on the many meta levels he senses he has the grip on and misses the entire forest. Let's see if he can chill out and converse as opposed to his extra special abilities of being perfect. I very much doubt it. I look forward to being proven wrong.

Passion is a wonderful thing

It can be incredibly humorous too!!!

[82_28]

Fuck this guy, MIB. He can get lost as far as I am concerned. His name is stupid, his website is incurious and he's a dick. Fuck him and ban him. Also, fuck David Icke. I don't get a bit of it. I don't buy it but can see fascination and relate to the fascinating subject he seems to espouse. I've seen enough David Lynch and read enough Philip K. Dick and also a disciple of Sagan's Demon Haunted World to say to MIB is a fool. I hope he sticks around though actually. There's nothing more fun than dealing with a humorless cocksucker on the many meta levels he senses he has the grip on and misses the entire forest. Let's see if he can chill out and converse as opposed to his extra special abilities of being perfect. I very much doubt it. I look forward to being proven wrong.

Passion is a wonderful thing

It can be incredibly humorous too!!!

Man, am I glad you finally found some time to laugh at that old comment. I was worried I wouldn't get a laugh out of you at all.

[Searcher08]

This is the best paragraph in the whole damn piece:

“Look. Here’s the scoop, Hipler. Jones and Icke are Illuminati Disinformation agents. In fact, their function is so obvious I would have figured even you would figure it out, not to get insulting. They make conspiracy theory look so absurd, so bizarre, so unattractive that no sane, talented investigative journalist will go anywhere near it. I mean, you know the drill. The Pentagon Papers. The Church Committee after Watergate. Iran-Contra. LIBOR. All just the tip of the iceberg and, as you know, there were a few others that were never revealed — legitimate conspiracies, some of them not even under our control! I mean, who the hell knows what the Queen and that LaRouche asshole are up to? And… is there something not quite right with that whole 9/11 thing? How the hell would I know?… what with Jones and Icke riling up all those new age ditzes… no sane investigative journalist wants to be associated with that.

This is poorly reasoned and very patronising pseudoskeptic junk.

The people who have achieved 8 million views on the Anti-Jimmy Savile activist thread on Icke's forum and have provided a flood of information to the investigative journalists Exaro (the one's who just published the Murdoch tapes) provide a ringing counterexample to this nonsense.

[Mason I Bilderberg]

Fuck this guy, MIB. He can get lost as far as I am concerned. His name is stupid, his website is incurious and he's a dick. Fuck him and ban him. Also, fuck David Icke. I don't get a bit of it. I don't buy it but can see fascination and relate to the fascinating subject he seems to espouse. I've seen enough David Lynch and read enough Philip K. Dick and also a disciple of Sagan's Demon Haunted World to say to MIB is a fool. I hope he sticks around though actually. There's nothing more fun than dealing with a humorless cocksucker on the many meta levels he senses he has the grip on and misses the entire forest. Let's see if he can chill out and converse as opposed to his extra special abilities of being perfect. I very much doubt it. I look forward to being proven wrong.

Agreed. And having him around makes me look practically sane.

(Pro-tip for MIB: white text on black bg is bad, mkay? Makes it extremely hard to read for people with color-blindness.)

And no offense to Jerky, but what's up with the signing of every post? I see it all over the tubes, and it's annoying as hell.

DrE

My video showed up here. I'm curious how Icke supporters (if there are any) can square their support of Icke with his more bizarre assertions (specifically, human-alien hybrids exist and run the world).

Do you believe alien-human hybrids exist?

Mason I. Bilderberg (MIB)

[American Dream]

oh for fuck's sake.

who among us are the mind controlled, thought stopped? it's really really really obvious what the answer is at this point, so I'm out. I tried.
No dialog to be had, just an endless game of chase the goal posts.

The thought stopping techniques- for example "He/she linked to somebody who linked to James Randi so obviously the arguments are not worthy of any consideration" are self-induced and/or shared means of avoiding the substance of the argument.

Never entertaining substantive critique is definitely a technique used by the Moonies- this does not mean that everyone here is a glassy-eyed Moonie- but it does suggest that there is a serious problem in David Icke Land.

The key problem is avoiding the substance of the argument.

[seemslikeadream]

Welll I can distract too...to THE REAL ...but no one is interested in the REAL REAL...ONLY DISTRACTING FROM THE REAL....how interesting that some one that wants the truth to come out wants only to talk of this shit

[Searcher08]

Fuck this guy, MIB. He can get lost as far as I am concerned. His name is stupid, his website is incurious and he's a dick. Fuck him and ban him. Also, fuck David Icke. I don't get a bit of it. I don't buy it but can see fascination and relate to the fascinating subject he seems to espouse. I've seen enough David Lynch and read enough Philip K. Dick and also a disciple of Sagan's Demon Haunted World to say to MIB is a fool. I hope he sticks around though actually. There's nothing more fun than dealing with a humorless cocksucker on the many meta levels he senses he has the grip on and misses the entire forest. Let's see if he can chill out and converse as opposed to his extra special abilities of being perfect. I very much doubt it. I look forward to being proven wrong.

I take it you don't believe alien-human hybrids exist?

I take it you cannot answer the issues I raised?
Pseudoskeptics DO seem to run away from anything that looks at shining a light on their assumptions and beliefs.

[seemslikeadream]

avoiding the substance of the argument....there's no substance here you are distracting from any real substance going on in this world...why do you do that...DISTRACT?

[Mason I Bilderberg]

Only a very few people of late have been willing to go anywhere close to making an overt statement regarding whether they do or don't buy into specific claims made by David Icke.

I find it interesting the number of people (not necessarily here on this forum) who reference Icke and his books, his speeches, etc. as a path to "waking up" or to cease being "sheeple," but when you ask these same people about the lizard people (or princess Diana being a human sacrifice or past presidents being pedophiles and/or blood drinkers) they freeze up, call you names, tap dance or try to ban the question (ie: ban the person) from the conversation.

Some background info:

It was the circumstance i describe above that brought me to Icke and his human-alien assertion. A conspiracy theory family member kept talking about Icke. I went out and bought 4 books by Icke and read them all. I watched hours and hours of his videos (When my family member said "educate yourself," i took him seriously) (big mistake) (i was a conspiracy theory novice). When i went back to my family member and began discussing some of Icke's theories (the Icke theories conspiracy theorists NEVER tell you about) well … i was yelled and screamed at and told "i obviously have a stick up my a** for David Icke!" and any further attempts by me to discuss Icke was summarily brushed aside because i am "obviously" biased against Icke.

I believe this is a classic example of confirmation bias. Why does a person read an Icke book (any book) and consciously acknowledge only those portions the reader wishes to be true while completely ignoring equally weighty topics like lizard people and modern day human sacrifices?

This kind of selective attention speaks volumes about the reader, begging the question: What void must be tugging on their psyche that they can blind themselves to, or completely avoid and deny, the other side of Icke's coin?

As Mr. Spock would say: "Fascinating."

MIB

I see 26 pages of concerted avoidance by a whole bunch of people.

The conversation has drifted all over the place. Now it seems to be digressing into ad hominem attacks (not from you). Soon it will go back to asking diversionary questions. It's a predictable cycle.

[seemslikeadream]

HERE'S SOME REPTILES FOR YOU

[Mason I Bilderberg]

Icke has a great potential to injure movements for social change.

New Age authorities can injure people's pocketbooks, their freedom of thought, their effectiveness in the world, their ability to think clearly and independently, sometimes their time, their intimate relationships.

For some Icke is a New Age authority and he does have the potential to affect the lived quality of their lives.

Compare to organized religion over the last 2,000+ years. How many beneficial innovations and scientific discoveries were delayed or prevented by religion? How many curious minds failed to act, talk, write or even think outside the bounds of church doctrine for fear of religiously-driven reprisals? How many minds failed to even search their creative imaginations for opportunities beneficial to man because of their faith to a religion?

The progress of civilization, and many benefits to mankind, were resisted and delayed by religion and religious beliefs.

Too strong adherence to any doctrine will stifle the person and their potential.