David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

[Elvis]

Majority is reality.

That's about the dumbest thing I've heard all day.

Exactly.

[stillrobertpaulsen]

This thread is headed for lockdown unless participants here cease making disruptive posts about each other, and return to discussing issues.

Please lock this motherfucking POS thread. It has outlived its usefulness, if it ever had any, and is a GODDAMN EMBARRASSMENT to see at the top of the General Discussion page every fucking day I've checked in of late. And yes, this is the only post I'll make on this shitty thread. The sooner it is locked, the better off General Discussion will be.

[ShinShinKid]

[Sounder]

Ah but there is nothing like an intentional train wreck.

Very attention grabbing.

Surely it was all done with the best of intentions.

[brekin]

stillrobertpaulson wrote:

Please lock this motherfucking POS thread. It has outlived its usefulness, if it ever had any, and is a GODDAMN EMBARRASSMENT to see at the top of the General Discussion page every fucking day I've checked in of late. And yes, this is the only post I'll make on this shitty thread. The sooner it is locked, the better off General Discussion will be.

No growth of consciousness without pain my friend. I honestly thought this would be a three pager. Something like "Icke says such and such and that is why he appeals to such and such group". But the fact is we have Ickians and Icke sympathizers here in RI. No way to soften that and that is why this thread has mutated and metastasized at such a rate. To me I'm more surprised than embarrassed that it is the case.

[slimmouse]

No growth of consciousness without pain my friend. I honestly thought this would be a three pager. Something like "Icke says such and such and that is why he appeals to such and such group". But the fact is we have Ickians and Icke sympathizers here in RI. No way to soften that and that is why this thread has mutated and metastasized at such a rate. To me I'm more surprised than embarrassed that it is the case.

Through no fault of my own, you understand.

Meanwhile, our resident president AD has informed us all of his research on the Rothschilds ,courtesy of the usual trustworty sources.


. From International manipulating financiers the one minute, to suburban gentry the next.

I guess that wraps it up.

[Elvis]

Fifty-nine pages and I don't think I learned ONE THING about Icke that I didn't already know.

Anyone eles? I could be totally wrong. Did anyone really get any useful info or fresh viewpoints out of this thread?

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(edit) On second thought, don't answer that.

[American Dream]

See also:

The Extreme Right in Europe: Current Trends and Perspectives - Page 399
Uwe Backes, Patrick Moreau - 2012 - Political Science

[American Dream]

Interview: Michael Barkun

The New Internationalist September 2004

New Internationalist: Is it fair to say that the work of Icke, although he does not emerge from the political right, is based on ideas popularized and shaped by stories that originate in the right-wing subcultures and then blended in an "improvisational style" with UFO and other mythic lore? When someone says the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is really about the Illuminati or the Bilderbergers is it fair to suggest that it still involves the use of historic "antisemitic motifs?"

Barkun: Icke is certainly the most adroit synthesizer of these ideas. He also tries to position himself as "beyond left and right," as though he was above "mere" politics. He also effects a sympathy for groups he denigrates, claiming, for example, that most Jews and Masons are innocent dupes whom he wants to save from their conniving leaders. This strikes me as, to say the least, disingenuous, but it positions him to claim that he's a victim when, for example, he is charged with anti-Semitism.

As to The Protocols, the current gambit of many who use them is to claim that they "really" come from some other group -- not Jews but, for instance, Illuminati. It's hard to tell whether they actually believe this or are simply trying to sanitize a discredited text. I don't see that it makes much difference, since they leave the actual, anti-Semitic text unchanged. The result is to give it credibility and circulation when it deserves neither.

[slimmouse]

[quote="American Dream » 08 Jul 2013 20:02"]Interview: Michael Barkun

Not that guy again, surely?

Edited to replace ignorant expletive insult to the source, since he may well truly believe what he is saying.

I have no problem whatsoever with that.

[General Patton]

[Searcher08]

The Rothschilds are very interesting.

However outside of the Holocaust Ithink they are probably the most sensitive subject to discuss.

Some facts...

My take on them is as follows:

1 It is very very unlikely they are Annunaki. Rather they are mostly very very posh upper class Brits and French.

2 They actually represent a very interesting intermediation layer between "Governments" and "Business" - I looked on them as as kind of investment banking "systems integrator".

3 They do NOT own the world -their OWNERSHIP is enormously exaggerated.

4 The influence of people who have had senior appoints at a Rothschild company cannot be overestimated - this is because these companies act / acted as a type of Sandhurst or West Point of global capitalism - ie how they heck to you get money for a Metro construction programme in Brazil? How do you structure the deals? etc etc

5 There is a informal law around money flow, which is the larger the amount often in general the
greater corruption of the sources of that money
If I want to raise $10 I can be pretty certain that money is 'clean'
If I want to raise $10 billion, I can be certain that that will include narco dollars, child trafficing, weapons etc - saying that these activities are *supported* is inaccurate. I think they are concerned with financial 'piping' - the plumbing of global financial flow.

5 The idea that they are 'just the same as' other posh Brit upper-class twit families is laughable.
Go to their familiy website and read their archive. I spent an afternoon doing that. It was fascinating.

6 They were responsible for setting up the Bank of International Settlements which is the heart of the world central banking system. This is an extremely OPAQUE organisation, which features relatively little on the media (at least in the EU where the German and UK central banks dominate)

7 According to Catherine Austin Fitts, drug money is actually needed for the financial system to function - it acts as a kind of 'warfarin' 'blood thinner' without which the global financial system would collapse (like a systemic heart attack).

8 I asked a friend who knows them what he thought of them and he said they were very nice people. He said they were a bit like the Ewings vs Barnes and that when they feuded, it was with the Swedish Nobel family - and that they fought through proxies.

9 There is a small group of 147 companies at the heart of global finance as shown by the social network analysis done here:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html#.Udsav6x2mVo


These 147 companies are dominated by a network of four companies
<roll on the drums>
http://www.forbes.com/sites/brendancoffey/2011/10/26/the-four-companies-that-control-the-147-companies-that-own-everything/
McGraw Hill, Northwestern Mutual, CME Group ,Barclays

of which Barclays is arguable the most influential.

10 Marcus Agius used to be Chairman of Barclays
He is a Maltese Catholic and his father in law is err Edmund Rothschild
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Leopold_de_Rothschild

Talking about diversity and women in Barclays


Being grilled about LIBOR

[slimmouse]

Above is the reply from one who might broadly be classed as of the Ickean cult. That is, if the President of the Orgainsation of Anti Ickeism had his way.

[82_28]

I think this thread is hilarious. It's hilarious because it's so not an issue. Alien Human Hybrids exist and do not. That's my take away.

I think the catalyst was Mr. Bilderberg being drawn here by AD. Once he was drawn here all hell broke loose because we saw a condescending "outsider" lay it on to us.

Like I said in my very first comment in and of this great and storied thread was "fuck this guy". Let me tell you all, this kind of shit doesn't get under my skin at all (oops). In fact, possibly the only reason I responded as I did to begin with is because I had just gotten off work. I carry that shit with me. For that I apologize. However, I deal with goofballs all the fucking time, so I don't quite mind barbs and pokers. I just tell them (you) what I think of them and that's my job. The term "fuck" is probably a little different for me than others. A goofball is still a goofball.

Let's just all simmer down and go back to our business of providing content for one another.

1) No. We are not an Icke cult
2) No. We couldn't give a shit less EVEN IF what he says is true
3) No. We won't be condescended upon by an outsider
4) Yes. We are all perfectly capable of all remaining Internet friends
5) No. Nothing has changed
6) Yes. We are all anti-fascist, anti-racist and anti-misogynist and all inclusive
7) Yes. We are gathered here in order to make sense of "reality"
No. Dicks and cocksuckers aren't allowed as far as the site's guidelines

Peace and Amen.

Seriously. Peace and Amen.

[Searcher08]

Above is the reply from one who might broadly be classed as of the Ickean cult. That is, if the President of the Orgainsation of Anti Ickeism had his way.

I'd love to do a 'Not David Icke' seminar where I take all the information Icke supplies and make a different pattern during the morning - then in the afternoon debunk all his major points - and create something even more off the wall.

Hmm... like maybe actually *engaging* with Barclays about how their highly networked structure potentially *maximises* global financial risk?
McGraw Hill... do really good Maths books