Roger Waters Touring The Wall in North America this Fall

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Postby Laodicean » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:46 pm

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What Made Pink Floyd’s Gilmour & Waters Reunite Onstage?

Pink Floyd’s David Gilmour and Roger Waters reunited onstage for a four-song set last Friday night at a charity event for the Hoping Foundation in Oxfordshire, England.

Waters took to his Facebook page on Wednesday to explain how this reunion came about.

“Last year, The Hoping Foundation, a charity that supports Palestinian refugee kids, put on a fund raiser at Ronnie Scott’s Club in London, the idea of which was to raise money by auctioning karaoke performances by various celebrities. David was there as a supporter and was moved to perform an impromptu rendition of George Gershwin’s ‘Summertime’ which he performed aided and abetted by supermodel Kate Moss.

“In the wake of that evening, someone, I think it was David himself, came up with this ‘Wouldn’t it be funny,’ idea. What if he (David that is) were to sing the old Teddy Bears song ‘To Know Him Is To Love Him’ with me (Roger that is), what with us having been so famously at each other’s throats for years and years. Get it!!!! Anyway he emailed me with this suggestion and I loved it, so then it was just a question of juggling dates and deciding to do ‘Wish You Were Here’ and ‘Comfortably Numb’ to round out our little set.”

But then Gilmour sent Waters a demo of the Bears cover that included a two-part harmony.

“I listened with a sinking heart, knowing that David, with his superior vocal skills, could sing either part standing on his head, whilst I would have to search for a different key and then struggle through hours and hours of routining a performance that lay way outside my vocal comfort zone,” explains Waters in the post. “To my eternal shame I bottled out and told Dave I would happily do ‘Wish You Were Here’ and ‘C. Numb,’ but that ‘To Know him is to Love him’ was beyond me.”

So after some useless cajoling, Gilmour eventually dangled a carrot that Waters just couldn’t refuse.

Waters quotes Gilmour’s offer on the post as follows: “If you do ‘To Know Him Is To Love Him’ for The Hoping Foundation gig, I’ll come and do ‘C. Numb’ on one of your Wall shows.”

“I was blown away,” admits Waters. “How could I refuse such an offer? I couldn’t, there was no way. Generosity trumped fear. And so explaining that I would probably be shite, but if he didn’t mind I didn’t, I agreed and the rest is history. We did it, and it was f––ing great. End of story. Or possibly beginning.”

So diehard Pink Floyd fans, stay tuned as Gilmour is expected to determine which of the shows on the 30th Anniversary tour for The Wall he’ll play at in “due course.”

To get the complete explanation from Waters, click here.
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Re: Roger Waters Touring The Wall in North America this Fall

Postby beeline » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:50 pm

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Re: Roger Waters Touring The Wall in North America this Fall

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Re: Roger Waters Touring The Wall in North America this Fall

Postby beeline » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:11 pm

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Saw the show last night. Pretty friggin' awesome if you're into late-70s arena rock spectacles. Updated, too, to fit the themes in with Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Re: Roger Waters Touring The Wall in North America this Fall

Postby wordspeak2 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:21 pm

"Updated, too, to fit the themes in with Iraq and Afghanistan."

Oh yeah, how's that?
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Re: Roger Waters Touring The Wall in North America this Fall

Postby beeline » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:50 pm

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During intermission, they showed pictures of people killed in Afghanistan & Iraq, soldiers reuniting with their families during "Bring the Boys Back Home,"....I think the message Waters was trying to get across was, 'my life was fucked up due in part to the fact that my father was killed in the war, and here we are today making the same mistake." Also projected onto the wall were messages like 'the government will always lie to you' and something like 'for every gun made you could feed a village for a month.'
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Postby Laodicean » Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:00 pm

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Re: Roger Waters Touring The Wall in North America this Fall

Postby Laodicean » Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:02 pm

In light of the intension of the right wing in the Israeli Knesset to pass a law making the Boycotting of products from the occupied West Bank ILLEGAL, I have been asked by the Israeli movement "Boycott from Within" to make a statement. This is it. Recorded late last night after a days filming in Athens. I have subsequently heard that sadly, despite much opposition, the bill passed. Israel we weep for you. - Roger


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Re: Roger Waters Touring The Wall in North America this Fall

Postby elfismiles » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:09 am

Bruce Dazzling » 03 Dec 2012 15:12 wrote:Roger waters speechifying on Israel's delightful apartheid and Palestinian statehood.



Pig Balloon at Roger Waters Concert Features Star of David; Wiesenthal Center Calls Him ‘Open Hater of Jews’ (VIDEO)
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Roger Waters’s pig drone featuring a Star of David. Photo: Screenshot.
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Anti-Semitic display at Roger Waters concert
Pig-shaped balloon with Star of David alongside fascist symbols released during British musician's concert in Belgium. ‘I really love his music,’ says Israeli viewer, 'but this time he crossed the line’

Eldad Beck Published: 07.24.13, 20:35 / Israel Culture

On Saturday night, Israelis were among those who attended a British musician and former Pink Floyd frontman Roger Waters’ concert in Belgium. Even as Waters is a known activist pushing for the boycott of Israel, Israelis were still amazed to see that the show included a blatantly anti-Semitic display.

Toward its end, a black balloon in the shape of a wild pig was released to the sky, on it a Star of David, in the company of symbols of dictatorial organizations and regimes from around the world.

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Rogers’ concert took place as part of the music festival in the city of Werchter, and it opened his European tour. Next to the Star of David, on the wild pig balloon, there was also a sign of oil conglomerate Shell, and a graffiti message stating, “Everything will be okay, just keep consuming,” and “What’s wrong with people?”

“I came to the concert because I really like his music, without any connection to his political stance toward Israel,” says Alon Onfus Asif, an Israeli living in Belgium. “And I had a lot of fun, until I noticed the Star of David, on the inflatable pig. That was the only religious-national symbol which appeared among other symbols for fascism, dictatorships and oppression of people. Waters crossed the line and gave expression to an anti-Semitic message, beyond all his messages of anti-militancy.”

In the last few years, Waters has become one of the leading activists for the boycott of, and sanctions against Israel. He had planned to publish a letter calling on musicians not to perform in Israel, but recently said he was reconsidering his position in order not to hurt people he knew who would be affected by the issue. By this he hinted at the possibility that artists who boycotted Israel might be hurt by pro-Israel organizations.

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Re: Roger Waters Touring The Wall in North America this Fall

Postby Laodicean » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:09 pm

Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
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Re: Roger Waters Touring The Wall in North America this Fall

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:35 pm

Laodicean » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:09 pm wrote:Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?


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Re: Roger Waters Touring The Wall in North America this Fall

Postby beeline » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:58 pm

I'd have a problem with this, except that the Star of David is on Israel's flag, too.
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Re: Roger Waters Touring The Wall in North America this Fall

Postby Jerky » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:34 am

Precisely.

If Israel doesn't enjoy having the Star of David being criticized, then they should take it off their flags of violent, illegal occupation.

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Re: Roger Waters Touring The Wall in North America this Fall

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:42 pm

Roger Waters- The Pig & The Star of David

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Once again a pig-shaped balloon with Star of David alongside other ‘horrid’ symbols was integrated into Roger Water’s concert.

Some Jews are very upset.

Former Pink Floyd frontman Roger Waters’ is accused of anti-Semitism following a concert in Belgium this past weekend. Waters included imagery in his show that even the staunchest Jewish critic of Israel would refrain from using.

On a black balloon, a Star of David was accompanied by Nazi symbols. Water’s Jewish detractors insist that “the Star of David is regarded as a fundamentally important symbol in the Jewish faith.” This is actually a debatable statement, some scholars argue that the Star of David is not a Judaic symbol. However, Jews and Zionists in particular better bear in mind that the Star of David certainly decorates Israeli warplanes and tanks that carry war crimes against civilians. As such, the Star of David deserves to be presented along other symbols of oppression and this is not going to change even when Israel disappears.

Next to the Star of David, on the wild pig balloon, there was also a sign of oil conglomerate Shell. I believe that the message is clear. The artist is there to succeed where our politicians and media outlets are failing: While our politicians, academia and media are practically owned by the Lobby or silence by political correctness, the artist still celebrates a relative autonomy. I believe that this fact may explain my own survival through the intensive orchestrated Jewish onslaught on my work.

Trending Central reported today that many (Jewish) viewers ‘were disgusted with what they saw. “I had a lot of fun, until I noticed the Star of David on the inflatable pig.” Said Alon Onfus Asif. “And That was the only religious-national symbol which appeared among other symbols for fascism, dictatorships and oppression of people. Waters crossed the line and gave expression to an anti-Semitic message, beyond all his messages of anti-militancy.”

The Simon Wiesenthal Centre has strongly condemned the heroic singer, they described the relevant act as a “classic anti-Semitic caricature, disgusting, widely used by the Nazi and Soviet propaganda to incite hatred against the Jews.” I believe that time is ripe for The Simon Wiesenthal Centre and other Jewish organisations to critically examine the conduct of the Jewish State and its lobby. Such an act may eventually explain why David ended up starring on a pig balloon.

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Re: Roger Waters Touring The Wall in North America this Fall

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:45 am

Roger Waters Pens Open Letter About Antisemitism Accusations

There has been some comment on the Internet about the Wall Show in Belgium to which I feel I should respond.

One Alon Onfus Asif, an Israeli living in Belgium, came to The Wall show in Belgium last week and being an observant sort of chap Alon noticed a Star of David on the Pig that is destroyed by the audience at the end of the show. Then Alon dutifully videoed our Pig on his phone, posted this video, and alerted Israeli Daily, Yediot Ahronot. This story was duly picked up by the ever watchful Rabbi Abraham Cooper, Dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the entirely predictable resulting rant is attached here:

http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/07/24/ma ... alloon-at- roger-waters-concert-features-star-of-david-video/.

Often I can ignore these attacks but Rabbi Cooper’s accusations, are so wild and bigoted they demand a response.

Dear Rabbi Cooper,

I hold your outburst to be inflammatory and un-helpful and would suggest it can only impede progress towards peace and understanding between people. It is also extremely insulting to me personally in that you accuse me of being ‘Anti Semitic’, ‘A Jew Hater’ and ‘Nazi Sympathizer’

I have three specific points to make:

1). Your use of the adjective “ANTI-SEMITIC”.

First I direct you to an announcement by ‘The Anti Defamation League’ an American organization, who’s declared aim is to defend Jewish people and Judaism from attack. They recently said.

“While we wish that Mr. Waters would have avoided using the Star of David, we believe there is no anti-Semitic intent here.”

I should point out that in the show, I also use the Crucifix, the Crescent and Star, the Hammer and Sickle, the Shell Oil Logo and The McDonald’s Sign, a Dollar Sign and a Mercedes sign.

2). JEW-HATING? I have many very close Jewish friends, one of whom, interestingly enough, is the nephew of the late Simon Wiesenthal. I am proud of that association; Simon Wiesenthal was a great man. Also I have two grandsons who, I love more than life itself, their Mother, my daughter in law, is Jewish and so, in consequence, I’m told, are they.

3). NAZI? Not only did my father, 2nd Lieutenant Eric Fletcher Waters, die in Italy on February 18th 1944 fighting the Nazis, but I was brought up in post war England where I received the most thorough education on the subject of Nazism and where I was spared no horrific detail of the heinous crimes committed in the name of that most foul ideology. I remember my mother’s friends Claudette and Maria, I remember their tattoos, they where survivors, two of the lucky ones.

My Mother spent the whole of the rest of her life, involved politically to make sure the future for her children and grandchildren, in fact for everyone’s children and grandchildren, black, white, Gentile, Jew, Latino, Asian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, et al, had no Sword of Damocles in the form of the despised Nazi Creed hanging over their heads.

I for my part, as best I can, have continued along my parent’s path. At the age of nearly 70, in the spirit of my Father and Mother and all they did, I have stood my ground, as best I can, in defense of Mistress Liberty.

The Wall Show, so lamely attacked by you, is many things. It is thoughtful, life affirming, ecumenical, humane, loving, anti war, anti colonial, pro universal access to the law, pro liberty, pro collaboration, pro dialogue, pro peace, anti authoritarian, anti fascist, anti apartheid, anti dogma, international in spirit, musical and satirical.

It is not.

ANTI-SEMITIC or PRO NAZI

I have often come under attack by the pro Israel lobby because of my support for BDS, (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions) which I won't go into here, anyone interested can access a speech I made at The United Nations on the 29th November last year.

However I will say this, in a functioning theocracy it is almost inevitable that the symbol of the religion becomes confused with the symbol of the state, in this case the State of Israel, a state that operates Apartheid both within its own borders and also in the territories it has occupied and colonized since 1967.

Like it or not, the Star of David represents Israel and its policies and is legitimately subject to any and all forms of non violent protest. To peacefully protest against Israel’s racist domestic and foreign policies is NOT ANTI-SEMITIC. Your contention that because I criticize the Policies of the Israeli government I should be lumped in with the Muslim Brotherhood is risible, and again a personal affront. I have spent my whole adult life advocating separation of church and state.

At every Wall Show I invite 20 vets from whatever country we are in backstage at half time to meet, exchange handshakes and good wishes and mementos. At one show, a year or so ago, an older vet, Vietnam era, at a guess, blocked my exit, he put out his hand which I took, he did not let go, he looked me in the eyes and he said " Your Father would be proud of you."

Tears burn my eyes.

The Wall is reaching out to you and all the other Rabbi Cooper’s out there.

Come to the show!

Love

Roger

P.S.

For the sake of some perspective. The inflatable pig that so offended young Alon has appeared at every Wall Show since September 2010, some 193 shows, yours is the first complaint. Also the pig in question represents evil, and more specifically the evil of errant government. We make a gift of this symbol of repression to the audience at the end of every show and the people always do the right thing. They destroy it.
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