"Mystery booms" in San Diego

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"Mystery booms" in San Diego

Postby robertdreed » Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:23 am

What's behind mysterious booms?<br><br><br>Phenomena produce theories, but no answers<br>By Alex Roth<br>UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER<br><br>April 23, 2006<br><br>Life can serve up a good mystery every once in a while. Weird things happen that defy explanation, that make us wonder how much we really know about the world.<br><br>Something of the sort happened in San Diego County shortly before 9 a.m. Tuesday, April 4, and so far no one has come forward with an explanation.<br><br>“My garage door is double steel and it weighs about 500 lbs. It was rattling back and forth like a leaf in the wind for about 3 or 4 seconds.”<br><br>– e-mail from University City resident on April 4 disturbance<br>Whatever it was, it caused a woman's bed to shake in Lakeside. It created waves in a backyard pool in Carmel Valley. It set off car alarms in Kearny Mesa and rattled windows from Mission Beach to Poway to Vista. At various spots throughout the county, people reported a rumbling sound or a booming noise.<br><br>Scientists insist it wasn't an earthquake. The Federal Aviation Administration has no record of any planes producing a sonic boom by breaking the sound barrier.<br><br>Camp Pendleton officials say no activities on the Marine base could have created such a disturbance. There were no large explosions in San Diego County that day, and no meteor fireballs were reported in the sky that morning.<br><br>What was it, then?<br><br>Maybe it was the same thing that caused a strange disturbance in Mississippi on April 7, when the locals heard a loud boom that rattled windows all over Jackson County, throwing emergency workers “into a tizzy,” said Butch Loper, Jackson County's civil defense director. Authorities in that state still don't have a clue as to the cause.<br><br> <br>Nor, to this day, can anyone explain what was behind similar episodes in Maine two months ago, or Alabama three months ago, or North Carolina four months ago. In each of those cases – as well as in other incidents around the nation over the years – residents reported hearing windows rattle and feeling floors shake even though no earthquake was detected.<br><br>There's almost certainly a simple, unromantic, “Aha!”-type explanation for each of these odd occurrences, something that everyone has overlooked for whatever combination of reasons.<br><br>But who knows?<br><br>Maybe we're not being told everything. Maybe the Earth still does things that present-day humanity doesn't understand.<br><br> <br><br>The morning of April 4 was cloudy in San Diego County, with rain in some areas and temperatures in the low to mid-60s. In Lakeside, Judi Mitchell, an emergency medical technician who works the night shift at a hospital, had returned to her home on Lakeshore Drive and was just about to fall asleep. It was 9 a.m., give or take a few minutes.<br><br>Suddenly, the earth started to vibrate.<br><br>“The windows shook; my bed moved,” she said. “It moved my bookcase.”<br><br>The rattling lasted a few seconds. Mitchell, 44, has lived in East County all her life and considers herself an expert at judging the size of an earthquake. She quickly guessed this one was a 4.5 on the Richter scale.<br><br>But to the astonishment of everyone, a quake wasn't the culprit. Within hours, both the U.S. Geological Survey in Pasadena and the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla issued statements saying no earthquake had been detected.<br><br>Last week, USGS spokeswoman Stephanie Hanna said the agency stands by its initial conclusion.<br><br>“No, it wasn't an earthquake,” she said. “We haven't changed our minds about that.”<br><br>By noon on the day of the incident, The San Diego Union-Tribune was being inundated with e-mails from people wondering what could have caused the strange tremors.<br><br>“My garage door is double steel and it weighs about 500 lbs.,” a man in University City wrote. “It was rattling back and forth like a leaf in the wind for about 3 or 4 seconds.”<br><br>A Mission Beach resident compared the sensation to “somewhere in between an explosion and an earthquake.” A woman in Carmel Valley noted that the rattling was very distressing to her cats.<br><br> <br><br>In recent days, the Union-Tribune has tried to get to the bottom of this mystery. Our efforts haven't met with much success.<br><br>Was it a sonic boom? If so, it didn't come from any aircraft at Miramar Marine Corps Air Station, Maj. Jason Johnston said. And it didn't come from any Navy planes in San Diego, said Cmdr. Jack Hanzlik, a Coronado-based spokesman for the Naval Air Forces.<br><br>“There were no Navy aircraft operating in this area during that time capable of flying at transonic speed,” he said.<br><br>Officials with the California National Guard and several Air Force bases also insisted their planes weren't the culprit, as did a Colorado-based spokesman for the North American Aerospace Defense Command.<br><br>If a plane had been traveling over San Diego County at supersonic speeds, the Federal Aviation Administration would have picked it up on radar, said Cheryl Jones, the FAA's San Diego-based liaison to the Marine Corps.<br><br>Jones checked with FAA control centers in Palmdale and San Diego, which monitor 180,000 square miles covering Southern California, southern Nevada and western Arizona. The agency has no records of any plane, military or civilian, breaking the sound barrier on the morning of April 4, she said.<br><br>Under federal law, Jones added, the military can fly at supersonic speeds only in certain restricted areas, three of which exist in Southern California. One is 150 miles to the north of San Diego, the second is 220 miles to the east and the third is 27 miles off the coast. The odds of a plane in any of those areas creating a sonic boom that could be felt all over San Diego County are virtually nonexistent, she said.<br><br>Could some sort of rocket be the cause? A spokeswoman at Vandenberg Air Force Base, 60 miles north of Santa Barbara, said the base didn't launch any rockets that day. Neither did NASA, a spokesman for that agency said.<br><br>Was it a meteor? Unlikely, said Ed Beshore, a researcher at the University of Arizona's NASA-funded Catalina Sky Survey, which monitors asteroids and other heavenly objects.<br><br>Every few months, a meteor enters Earth's atmosphere and produces an “airburst” that can cause a disturbance on the ground, Beshore said. In one recent case, an airburst over the Mediterranean Sea broke the windows on a ship, he said. In the most extreme incident ever recorded, a 1908 airburst over Siberia flattened trees for thousands of miles.<br><br>But an airburst powerful enough to cause tremors all over San Diego County would have been noticed by scientists, Beshore said. And the American Meteor Society reported no fireball sightings over California on April 4.<br><br>A spokeswoman for Camp Pendleton scoffed at speculation that some sort of Marine mortar training exercise at the base might have caused the countywide rumbling. “It was not us,” 2nd Lt. Lori Miller stated flatly.<br><br>Miller was home in Vista on the morning of April 4 when her windows began to rattle. There is no possible way, she said, that a Pendleton training exercise could have caused a sensation like that.<br><br> <br><br>Two months before the San Diego incident, Robert Higgins, the emergency management director of Somerset County, Maine, was confronted with a nearly identical set of puzzling circumstances. In February, panicked residents in a 15-mile radius reported feeling earthquakelike tremors. Authorities quickly ruled out an earthquake, explosion or industrial accident.<br><br>“I've called it the mystery of Somerset County,” Higgins said in a telephone interview last week. He still hasn't figured out the cause.<br><br>“I'm not done with it,” Higgins said. “I don't forget.”<br><br>Then there was the incident in Mobile, Ala., on Jan. 19, when residents in two counties reported hearing what sounded like an explosion and feeling “quakelike tremors,” according to news reports. To this day, no one is certain of the cause. By process of elimination, authorities have settled on the sonic-boom theory, even though no branch of the military has owned up to it.<br><br>There have been other similar unexplained events over the past few years. Something of the sort happened in Wilmington, N.C., on Dec. 20, 2005; Winston-Salem, N.C., on March 5, 2005; Charleston, S.C., on Aug. 1, 2003; and Pensacola, Fla., on Jan. 13, 2003.<br><br>“The large boom that shook walls and windows from Century to Milton on Monday remains a mystery, and probably will stay that way,” a reporter for the Pensacola News Journal wrote after the Jan. 13 episode.<br><br> <br><br>On those occasions when a logical explanation is wanting, it's sometimes necessary to consult that archive of wisdom otherwise known as the Internet.<br><br>Among bloggers and Web-based conspiracy theorists, one of the leading explanations for the San Diego disturbance is that the military is testing a top-secret spy plane called the Aurora, which supposedly can travel several times the speed of sound.<br><br>“Sir, I've never even heard of that plane before,” an Air Force spokeswoman in Virginia responded when asked about the possibility.<br><br>Even UFO experts are baffled by what happened in San Diego. Asked whether a flying saucer might have caused such an event, Peter Davenport of the Seattle-based National UFO Reporting Center said, “Probably not.”<br><br>“UFOs almost never generate sonic booms or shock waves,” he added. “They accelerate so rapidly that they leave a vacuum in the sky, much the way lightning does.”<br><br>What happened in San Diego on April 4 seems destined to remain one of life's little mysteries, as inexplicable as those Bigfoot sightings in the Pacific Northwest.<br><br>Mitchell, the Lakeside hospital worker, remains convinced that an earthquake was the culprit, regardless of what the experts say. The tremors were too strong, she said, too violent to be anything else.<br><br>“The earth actually moved,” she said. “You could feel it. If it moved my bed, it moved the earth.”<br><br>If anyone out there has any answers, would you please be kind enough to share them with the rest of us? A lot of folks are really curious.<br><br>Alex Roth: (619) 542-4558; alex.roth@uniontrib.com <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 4/29/06 11:00 pm<br></i>
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Re: "Mystery booms" in Sand Diego

Postby sunny » Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:47 am

Robert, same thing happened around here a couple of months ago- what is going on?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm12.showMessage?topicID=201.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...=201.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Mystery booms" in Sand Diego

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:18 am

All coastal states? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Mystery booms" in Sand Diego

Postby sunny » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:30 am

As I mentioned in the thread linked above, I remember some years ago ('80's?) a controversy, quickly hushed up, over the navy firing missiles at Alabama from the gulf. IIRC, one of them damaged a church. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Mystery booms" in Sand Diego

Postby sunny » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:34 am

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Then there was the incident in Mobile, Ala., on Jan. 19,</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.. <br>____________________________________________________<br>Sorry, Robert,obviously, you already knew of the incidents in my area.. I seemed to have skipped right over that part of your post. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Mystery booms" in Sand Diego

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:32 pm

I'm not that familiar with the geography of the towns involved. These are all coastal states, but are the towns also coastal, near-coastal? If so, that could support the possibility of this involving the navy. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Mystery booms" in Sand Diego

Postby sunny » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:23 pm

<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://renderv311.bay.prod.mappoint.net/render-30/getmap.aspx" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>hmm.. try again<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://http://renderv311.bay.prod.mappoint.net/render-30/getmap.aspx" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><br>Anyway, Mobile is right on the bay of the Gulf of Mexico. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sunny@rigorousintuition>sunny</A> at: 4/29/06 11:26 am<br></i>
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Mystery booms in San Diego

Postby mother » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:32 pm

According to April 27 signonsandiego.com the mystery can be traced to Warning area 21. Whatever that is. Is this anywhere near Alta, CA where the poor guy plunged to his death when a hole just opened up in his kitchen, down 100 feet he went? I'm sort of applying my elementary science understanding of "every action has an opposite and equal reaction" here. We've moved from Richmond, VA, but there were "mystery booms" there also last year. <p></p><i></i>
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found it?

Postby betty a free man » Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:32 pm

Mystery disturbance traced to sound wave<br><br>Scripps scientists say it traveled over the ocean to desert<br>By Alex Roth<br>UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER<br><br>April 27, 2006<br><br>A group of local scientists has uncovered some clues to the source of a mysterious disturbance that rattled San Diego County on the morning of April 4, shaking windows, doors and bookcases from the coast to the mountains.<br><br>The scientists, based at Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, say the disturbance was caused by a sound wave that started over the ocean and petered out over the Imperial County desert. Using data from more than two dozen seismometers, they traced its likely origin to a spot roughly 120 miles off the San Diego coast.<br><br>Graphic:<br><br>Tracking the boom<br>That spot is in the general vicinity of Warning Area 291, a huge swath of ocean used for military training exercises. The Navy operates a live-fire range on San Clemente Island, which is within Warning Area 291 and sits about 65 miles from Mission Bay.<br><br>The researchers also have charted dozens of similar, if less dramatic, incidents that seem to have originated in the same general area of the ocean. They aren't sure what caused any of them.<br><br>====<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=228x20081">www.democraticunderground...=228x20081</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Seismologists are usually pretty adept at sorting sonic booms out of the data - they have (I am told) a quite distinctive fingerprint: You can see an example here. Unless this is something really weird on a test flight... <br><br>My guess would be the Navy playing with something, err, divine.<br><br>Pass the tinfoil"--DU poster<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: found it?

Postby darkbeforedawn » Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:15 pm

Ok. add to this weird event that 400 dolphins just washed up on the shore in Africa. Remember all the dead whales just before the "TSumami". Chances are good to excellent they're<br>up to something with HAARP again, I betcha. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: found it?

Postby 4911 » Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:59 pm

explosive charges in the faultlines? (subterrenean terrorism) <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=4911>4911</A> at: 4/29/06 5:00 pm<br></i>
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license to kill

Postby robertdreed » Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:23 pm

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Re: license to kill

Postby havanagilla » Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:12 am

we had those a few months ago...same explanation with this air thing, doesn't make any sense. the press didn't get to the bottom of it, but at least they dismissed all the formal explanations given by the gov. backtalks were indicating some "drill" re Iran (depth bombs testing in the beach). It was also coastal (namely tal aviv up to herzlia). <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Mystery booms" in San Diego

Postby StarmanSkye » Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:07 am

Mysterious booms have been recorded since December in Scotland, England and the Oregon coast also, as well as the other sites disclosed on this thread, ie., Florida, Southern California, Maine, Alabama, North Carolina -- and even Israel (c/o Havanagilla).<br><br>At first, I suspected this might be from bolides (small meteors exploding in the atmosphere) OR was linked to the ultra-secret Aurora-type post SR-71 spy-plane project that has been discussed since the late 80s and which evidently resulted in the Stealth-technology planes -- but which are NOT high-altitude, Mach-5 capable as per what Aurora is supposed to be about.<br><br>Numerous reports of mysterious 'booms' during the late 80s and early 90s offshore California, while denied by the Pentagon and Air Force at the time, were later attributed to secret Stealth-plane testing. But the extreme range of sites that have been reported suggest an operational capability, NOT simply testing. So perhaps these booms are related to preparing high-speed attacks on Iran?<br><br>While trying to find more info on the Web, I ran across a couple older posts by Streiber on his Unknown Country site discussing this, AND his most recent post -- which suggest these booms may be methane-gas explosions from the oceans, likely due to changing temperatures and pressure, as <br>a consequence of global warming.<br><br> WhEW -- Ain't THAT a helluva note!<br>Starman<br>******<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=5114">www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=5114</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Booms are Back<br>16-Jan-2006<br><br><br> <br>About a year ago, we reported on mysterious booms in North Carolina (<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4319).">www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4319).</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> Now they're back. <br><br>In early January, a huge boom actually shook houses and rattled windows along the Carolina coast. Local TV channel WECT and sound technician Alex Markowski, who teaches at the University of North Carolina recorded the boom on tape. Markowski picked up the low frequency sounds on his special recording equipment. <br><br>Kim Lehman reports on the WECT TV 6 website that some people say the booms sound like a single loud bang, while others describe them as a series of explosions. This phenomena is known as the "Seneca Guns," and has been going on for hundreds of years. The name comes from Seneca Lake in New York, where the same sorts of sounds have been heard for years. Author James Fenimore Cooper called these booms the Seneca Guns in one of his short stories. Scientists say they are not earthquakes, thunder or sonic booms caused by supersonic planes, which are not allowed to fly across the continent. <br><br>Scientists speculate that the booms come from methane gas exploding on the ocean floor, which would be a result of global warming. A sudden burst of methane (<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4766)">www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4766)</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> into the atmosphere led to the last period of extreme global warming 15,000 years ago. The booms give rise to the suspicion that this could be happening again. <br><br>Art Bell and Whitley Strieber were the first ones to wake the world up to the dangers of global warming. Only readers of this website know where Whitley got his secret information. Listen to this week's Dreamland for an interview that will tell us whether there are other planets populated by conscious beings—or not. <br><br>(end quote)<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Mystery Booms in San Diego

Postby mother » Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:41 pm

The dolphins, 400, made me wonder, too. Also, after the Tsunami, the wells in Richmond, VA were reported to have been affected, and the explanation was the effect from the tsunami. We were straight across, through the Earth in Richmond. I wonder what Joe Vialls might have to say about this if he were alive. Any of all these considerations and theories are worthwhile in my opinion. <p></p><i></i>
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