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I was gonna say, you're quote looked straight from Tyler Durden!!
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Re: The Book of Dead philosophers

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Tue May 28, 2013 11:18 pm

The next door neighbor died this weekend. He was a few years younger than the LaSarcs and he dropped dead instantly from a brain aneurysm.

Tempis fugit.

Much to the dismay of his family he leaves (apparently) a large pile of unrecycled sierra nevada bottles.

To our gratitude, he leaves us a few books that he loaned us, his family doesn't seem to want them. Fight Club is one :zomg .


It has made me chew on the subject of mortality, for sure.


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Postby Perelandra » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:26 pm

Thank you for this excellent and timely thread, grateful for the reading material.

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Re: The Book of Dead philosophers

Postby Sounder » Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:52 pm

In my opinion, there is a way around this stunning narcissism found in our culture.

We can move toward equality based conceptual structures, we are in fact. But it is the case that we will not give substance to the new forms until we reject the old forms (generated by hierarchy and vertical authority distribution systems) that still make up so much of our self-identity.

I loved the article and writing but do not share the authors (seeming) opinion that narcissism is a primary or inherent driver. To me these things are most always derivative effects of limitations of our conceptual structures.

It's also heartening to see such a rough piece coming from a 'MarketWatch" columnist.

America Is Being Led Astray By Narcissists
May 29th, 2013
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By Paul B. Farrell, MarketWatch

Capitalism is now a cult, and Jamie Dimon is the self-appointed leader of the “cult of capitalism.”

That message is gleaned from a Huffington Post column by Mark Gongloff, whose headline stated that not only is the J.P. Morgan CEO and chairman a cult leader but a “very dangerous” one. Why? Because apparently shareholders have signed “a billion-year contract” to join the cult, notwithstanding portrayals of Dimon as a greedy egomaniac and poster boy for everything wrong with capitalism.

His is a monster of a cult: Warren Buffett is a member. So is CNBC’s Jim Cramer. Says Gongloff, who labels Cramer a “shouty man”: “Cramer joined Warren Buffett and many more VIPs in singing Dimon’s praises and warning of the woe that would befall shareholders” if they split his roles. Still, “the media played along, helping … Dimon keep both of his jobs” as J.P. Morgan Chase & Co.’s chief executive and chairman.

Dimon, meanwhile, was doing what any self-respecting egomaniac under such a threat would do: acting like a petulant teenager and threatening to quit.

Today, reconfirmed as leader of the cult of capitalism, Dimon could serve as the perfect example of what psychologist Ernest Becker wrote about in his Pulitzer Prize–winning classic, “The Denial of Death,” a favorite from my years at Morgan Stanley. Dimon fits the cult-leader profile: charismatic narcissist, uncompromising, manipulating and threatening to his co-conspirators in the “cult of capitalism” and to the masses marching to the drumbeat of his destiny, off another economic cliff, bigger than 2008’s.

The destiny of this cult of capitalism is also driven by historical trends that Dimon cannot see, trends beyond his control, beyond his leadership talents. Why? He is blinded, incapable of seeing the mega-billion-dollar danger Gongloff claims to have spotted dead ahead.

Is the new capitalism is destroying America’s morals?

Earlier, Dimon revealed himself as a doomsdayer with a self-destructive streak. I first wrote of this back in 2011. After Dimon spoke at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce the headlines shouted: “Jamie Dimon Worries Financial Regulation Will Doom Banks Forever.” Reports followed: Dimon attacked Dodd-Frank as “the nail in the coffin of big American banks.” Doom? Coffin? No, over the top.

In analyzing this behavior, it does fit the diagnosis in Becker’s “The Denial of Death,” a classic analysis of why America is led by narcissists wired to self-destruct.
We now see what John Bogle call a “mutant” capitalism that no longer resembles Adam Smith’s inspiring economic principles enshrined in our Declaration of Independence and Constitution. This type of capitalism has turned into an out-of-control virus destroying America’s moral values from within.

Missing is an sense of honor and love of democracy that made me proud as a U.S. Marine sergeant. Missing is a balance of conservative free-market principles with liberal compassion. All that has vanished in the blind ideologies of today’s Ayn Rand clones demanding a return to a world that mimics the Wild West.
Wall Street narcissists and their blinding ‘denial of death’

When I was first at Morgan Stanley, I read a wide assortment of books, from Adam Smith’s “Wealth of Nations” and “The Theory of Moral Sentiments” to “Supermoney” and “Powers of Mind.” Becker’s “Denial of Death” still haunts me. It took many readings over the years — plus a Ph.D. in psychology and later work as an interventionist with hundreds of executives, physicians, actors, rock stars, athletes, politicians, royalty and other celebrities — to fully comprehend its power.

Today Becker’s message seems obvious: Wall Street insiders really are their own worst enemies. Once again, as in 2000 and 2008, a million blind insiders are self-destructing.
Instead of Adam Smith’s “invisible hand,” we now have many hands of narcissistic egomaniacs driving this new cult of capitalism. The philosopher Sam Keen, author of “Hymns to an Unknown God,” wrote a great summary of Becker’s worldview in “Denial of Death.” Here are seven steps in the rise and demise of the cult of capitalism:


1. The world is terrifying, hostile and unsafe

Wall Street insiders, playing with billions, all face the same, deep angst in their souls. An inner war rages every day from birth. This world is “not Disneyland,” says Keen: “Mother Nature is a brutal bitch, red in tooth and claw, who destroys what she creates,” brutishly “tearing others apart with teeth of all types — biting, grinding flesh.” This is our reality from birth until death. Both Hollywood and Wall Street remind us of it every day.

2. Fear of death haunts all humans, creating intense anxieties

The world “out there” is filled with mortal enemies. Our basic human motivation is a “biological need to control our basic anxiety, to deny the terror of death.”
We adapt, enduring the pain of existence in a cruel world, anxious, “helpless, abandoned in a world where we are fated to die.” We live, relates Keen, in “terror: to have emerged from nothing, to have a name, consciousness of self, deep inner feelings, an excruciating inner yearning for life and self-expression — and with all this yet to die.” Yes, it sounds like an endless summer of Hollywood blockbusters, repeating on an endless loop in our brains.

3. So we invent clever ways to quiet our anxiety, deny our fears

Every day, we try to deny this reality, block the fears from our minds: to survive, raise a family, be productive.
Denial is the “first line of defense that protects us from the painful awareness of our helplessness.” So, writes Keen, “we hide in our phony defense mechanisms” to “feel safe … able to pretend that the world is manageable.” As do all capitalists. “But the price we pay is high,” Keen continues. “We repress our bodies to purchase a soul that time cannot destroy; we sacrifice pleasure to buy immortality,” but “life escapes us while we huddle within our defended fortress.”

4. Our goal: Escape death, be an immortal hero saving the world

Here’s where the human brain is at its most brilliant, most evident with cult leaders: “Society provides the second line of defense against our natural impotence,” says Keen. For all cultures create “a hero system that allows us to believe we transcend death by participating in something of lasting worth. We achieve ersatz immortality by sacrificing ourselves to conquer an empire, to build a temple, to write a book, to establish a family, to accumulate a fortune, to further progress and prosperity, to create an information-society and global free market.”

And not just individuals but “corporations and nations may be driven by unconscious motives that have little to do with their stated goals.” Each driven by leaders whose unconscious motives have more to do with overcoming their anxieties about death as a hero. In fact, the motivations of leaders “making a killing in business or on the battlefield frequently have less to do with economic need or political reality than with the need for assuring ourselves that we have achieved something of lasting worth,” while, deep inside, they remain our cult leaders, selfish, self-seeking, little narcissistic egomaniacs.

5. Our heroic ventures create enemies, backfire, counterattack

This is the final act for capitalists and for capitalism. As Keen puts it, “our heroic projects aimed at destroying evil have the paradoxical effect of bringing more evil into the world.” America vs. China, Republicans vs Democrats, etc. But the real war is always within us. Each of us projects our inner demons onto the real world. To distract us from our fear of death. And in our denials we convince ourselves we are immortal. In our minds we become as gods. And yet deep inside every hero quest to save the world are buried childhood fears, ancient terrors. And eventually this shadow world turns real, the game backfires, and old fears resurface, fighting back.

6. Our denial-of-death quest creates a blind hero

In Becker’s psychological reality we soon discover that “one of the key concepts for understanding man’s urge to heroism is the idea of narcissism.” Freud “discovered that each of us repeats the tragedy of the mythical Greek Narcissus.” We are “hopelessly absorbed with ourselves.” And 2,500 years of history has “not changed man’s basic narcissism.” In fact, “most of the time … practically everyone is expendable except ourselves.” We are indispensible. Forever. Immortal. We know best, for greed is always good in the cult of capitalism.

7. Escape into enlightenment? Sorry, but it gets worse

You ask: Is there hope for becoming a hero? Happy endings? Solutions? New strategies to get rich in recessions and bear markets? No.

As with Sartre’s existentialism, Becker sees no escape, “no exit” from the human condition — our denial of death, our destiny, our self-inflicted hell.

You’re trapped in a no-win drama: Even if you do get enlightened, your new enlightened state you will suffer a new awareness — that the cult of capitalism continues unenlightened, blind, driven to self-destruct by forces unseen and uncomprehended until it’s too late.

And unfortunately that leaves 300 million Americans trapped in the cult’s drama, where Wall Street’s greedy narcissists are unwittingly sabotaging the economy, lost in their silent conspiracy, controlling the invisible hand, in a costly war that will again lead, as in 2000 and 2008, to the fulfillment of the death wish of the cult of capitalism.

Paul B. Farrell is a MarketWatch columnist based in San Luis Obispo, Calif. Follow him on Twitter @MKTWFarrell.
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Re: The Book of Dead philosophers

Postby vanlose kid » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:12 pm

It is well written, well crafted. The OP by Lapham that is. Clever. Very literary. But it does strike me as being confused.

Does it make sense to say, as he does, that most Americans (symptomatic of American "culture") fear death? Or is ti rather that they fear the loss of life. This seems to be the greater or main fear because no one has any idea of death. And of course people like Lapham himself think of death as some sort of nothingness. So what is there to fear? Death in this (atheist) sense is not an event in life. It is not an event at all. It is not something one can experience. Which makes one ask for the sense of an atheist saying e.g. RIP. Why would they do this?

So what is the phenomenon he is speaking of, this drive toward extension of life? Is it any different from his own stance? What he calls "looking death in the face" or, with Critchley. "living in the present"? There seem to be two principles (if one can call them that) at the root of this. One says that the meaning or purpose of life is having fun, and the other says that there is no purpose to life, ergo, have fun. Pure hedonism then. These "principles" may seem hard to tell apart but they do differ. You'll have to look closely to see how.

But the sum of it is that the drive behind these principles, behind the purposive extension of life as something good in and of itself, is not fear of death but fear of the loss of life. Fear of no longer being able to have fun. For, as one can see from some characteristic remarks within this very thread, the general view seems to be that once fun no longer can be had then let's be done with it, preferably with state sanction and the necessary tech and human(e) support.

Is this looking death in the eye?

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As for the philosophers as presented by Critchley: they all seem to be more concerned with keeping up appearances than anything. Vanity in the face of death. This is a virtue? Who knew? Who would have guessed?

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Re: The Book of Dead philosophers

Postby Elvis » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:15 am

coffin_dodger » Fri May 17, 2013 6:27 am wrote:
Wombaticus Rex wrote:Highly recommend his strange, strange, strange documentary The American Ruling Class.


watchable here: http://snipurl.com/272aazq



OMG thank you...I don't usually like to watch long movies on my computer but I'm enjoying the hell out of this (24 minutes in. Lapham's a card, I love him. This is really good.
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Re: The Book of Dead philosophers

Postby Hammer of Los » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:57 am

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Lovely to see the vanlose kid!

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Re: The Book of Dead philosophers

Postby brainpanhandler » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:44 am

vanlose kid » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:12 pm wrote:
But the sum of it is that the drive behind these principles, behind the purposive extension of life as something good in and of itself, is not fear of death but fear of the loss of life. Fear of no longer being able to have fun. For, as one can see from some characteristic remarks within this very thread, the general view seems to be that once fun no longer can be had then let's be done with it, preferably with state sanction and the necessary tech and human(e) support.

Is this looking death in the eye?


Any way you think of it, fear of death or fear of loss of life or fear of no longer being able to have fun, they are all forms of denial of mortality. Mortality salience has many interesting effects on people,, but those effects are dependent upon starting conditions which are in turn, in a broad cultural sense, determined by the cultural milieu one was raised in. One of the effects of Mortality salience within the context of The Empire is a closer cleaving with god and country. We cling to the familiar and disavow the other. This has deadly consequences. It's also of note to the cultural engineers and propagandists I imagine.

No. I think "...to look death in the face and to draw from the encounter the breath of life." has more to do with coming close to death, feeling in your bones your own fragility and tenuous grasp on existence and with that certain knowledge the effects of denial vanish and life becomes more meaningful and perhaps ironically more precious. I say ironically because one would think that the person who is terrified of death would more strongly feel how precious life is, but one demonstrates the love of life by living it and not by protecting it at any cost. Lapham relates the story of his own brush with death. That experience shaped him and continues to inform him and presumably will until his own death. I once knew a man that was in a horrible car crash as a young man. He was clinically dead and described his NDE in the familiar terms we've all heard. The tunnel with the light, a glowing embrace of love and warmth, being met by friends and loved ones; a peak experience that changed him forever. That is an entirely different experience than Lapham's in that a part of the effect of having had such a close brush with death was the knowledge that there is something after death. That knowledge is more like an immortality salience. The man positively glowed with an abundance of joie de vivre. It was impossible to be around him and not be infected with it, hard as I tried. I was an unduly jaded and cynical man at the tender young age of 19 when I first met him.



As for the philosophers as presented by Critchley: they all seem to be more concerned with keeping up appearances than anything.


Maybe so. Having come very close to what would have surely been a fatal car crash a few years ago my last words would have been, "Oh SHIT!". Not very quote worthy.

Vanity in the face of death. This is a virtue?


Maybe not, but I suppose it's better than cowardice. Or perhaps it's just cowardice dressed up as vain courage. Who knows? Greeting death cannot be easy regardless of how well one has lived. It's hard to judge another's death very harshly or at least not particularly charitable. I hope I meet death somewhere other than a hospital bed. I know that.
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