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Crop Circles, The Quest for Truth video online

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Sat May 06, 2006 9:06 pm

Well, the <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=974931714241227503&q=Crop+Circles%3A+Quest+For+Truth">second half</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> at least.<br><br>Anyone who's interested in the phenomenon should see the whole DVD. This should give you a good taste of it. Interesting footage of orbs in the fields beginning around the 22 minute mark. <p></p><i></i>
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anyone watch it?

Postby darkbeforedawn » Sun May 07, 2006 10:49 am

I can't get videos on this machine. Wondering if anyone saw it and could post a brief summary? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: anyone watch it?

Postby BannedfromDU » Sun May 07, 2006 2:41 pm

I watched it...very interesting.<br><br>Personally jury is out for me as I have not read up on research. I had always found them facinating, but had thought man made explanations (pranksters) were the cause. <br><br>This film shows attempts to make a case that these are natural (or extra-dimentional) phenomena. Some say multi-dimensional beings, some type of Jungian collective unconscious, some say plasma energy forces. Some of the researchers who chase these circles, claim that they can actually influence the design. They said that over time they have found or think that a dialogue is being attempted between them and the thing that makes the circles. <br><br>After watching the film, I am still unsure of what is the cause. They lay out some compelling anticdotal evidence and curious questions, but how beautiful the various patterns, shapes, and forms are. Real works of art. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=bannedfromdu>BannedfromDU</A> at: 5/7/06 12:47 pm<br></i>
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colin andrews

Postby OpLan » Mon May 08, 2006 9:42 am

from <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cropcirclenews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=352" target="top">Crop Circle News</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Crop Circles : Colin Andrews on Operation Blackbird <br> <br><br>from the Western Daily Press (UK):<br><br>AFTER 15 YEARS I CAN TELL TRUTH OF MARKS MADE BY UFO<br><br>A West crop circle expert has lifted the lid on a previously long-forgotten chapter in the bizarre history of the West's 1990 crop circle mystery. Colin Andrews revealed to a coast-to-coast audience in America the goings-on under the cover of a summer night 15 years ago.<br><br>Mr Andrews, who left his West home for the US a decade ago, said that, far from being an embarrassing flop, the three-week vigil on the hilltops of Wiltshire was an astounding and secret success.<br><br>Listeners on US radio heard claims yesterday that the British Army watched and filmed a UFO making a ground-breaking crop circle near Silbury Hill while the world's media were camped 20 miles away.<br><br>Back in 1990, it was the high point of the crop circle hysteria gripping the world.<br><br>Dozens of volunteers, a host of foreign TV cameras, the world's foremost crop circle experts and the British Army launched a round-the-clock vigil from the famous white horse above Bratton, near Westbury, in a bid to spot a crop circle being made.<br><br>And within days it appeared Operation Blackbird had been successful - night vision cameras spotted something in a field below, and, sure enough, a new crop circle could be seen as dawn broke. For a few hours, the world reported the crop circle mystery as solved - but operation leader Colin Andrews soon realised he had been hoaxed and the figures on night-vision cameras were not aliens but local mischief-makers.<br><br>According to Mr Andrews, however, across Wiltshire a more mysterious and sinister event was happening, which has remained top secret ever since.<br><br>He said: "The public knew but half of what was going on at the time. While the media present at Operation Blackbird were looking at the right hand, they did not see what happened with the left.<br><br>"The British Army were looking at a secret site and a very important place nearby."<br><br>Strange things did happen at the Operation Blackbird HQ in Bratton - a strange hum, odd bass noises in the dead of night, and people seeing flashes of energy in the night sky.<br><br>"While, above Bratton, there was a formation appearing in front of the cameras which was supposed to convince the world of a hoax, the Army filmed a UFO at the secret site, and crop circles appeared next to the hill.<br><br>"The crop circle story will not be complete until Operation Blackbird is fully understood and why, and who, is behind the larger plan" added Mr Andrews.<br><br>Why he has chosen now to reveal more information now might have something to do with him winding down his research into the crop circle phenomenon. He recently put his entire collection of photos, videos, books, sketches and reports up for sale on eBay.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Colin-Andrews-Crop-Circles-Research-COMPLETE-ARCHIVE_W0QQitemZ6225615156QQcategoryZ413QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="top">Here's</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> the Ebay link.<br><br>If I remember correctly,Andrews thinks that genuine crop circle activity slowed to a trickle a few years ago.<br>Do you think the alien question is being dangled in front of us at the moment?<br>We have this ridiculous hacker trial being mooted,the BBC airing this 'ufos as plasma' report and MOC descending into mission orbit around mars.<br><br>I would like to mention a film called <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://ufonasa.terra-ent.com/" target="top">'Evidence-The Case for NASA UFOs'</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> by a man called David Sereda.Its an interesting study of the 'ice particles' accompanying so many shuttle flights.Of particular note is the so called 'tethered satellite experiment' (STS 75) and the footage of the ISS- where no one watching the footage can spot the space station amongst the swarm of curious objects filling the screen.He believes and tries to prove that UFOs can somehow alter their frequency,from solid matter to a mass closer to light particles..thats a horrible synopsis..track down the movie..like 'Quest for Truth',it is a decent documentary,which is quite rare for this subject matter.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: colin andrews

Postby OpLan » Mon May 08, 2006 9:53 am

I was just browsing Colins site and came across a CD for sale which details the <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.memorologyllc.com/CropCircleInfo/Blackbird-CD.htm" target="top">Operation Blackbird incident</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->.<br><br>Now I'm going to relax and watch 'The Day the Earth Stood Still' which just started on Channel 4 !..I love synchronicity. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: colin andrews

Postby Dreams End » Mon May 08, 2006 10:43 am

I own "Quest for Truth" and there are "extras" at the end that I don't know if they show up in this online version. Two are fascinating. One is a whole long scene where he and a couple others are going to observe a formation and military helicopters start buzzing them...very clear. Then they look in the field and there's this little glowing light or highly reflective something flying around. The helicopter appears to be following it on the ground for a little bit. Really amazing footage.<br><br>The second is a long story he tells about being approached by a guy who says he's from the CIA (much more involved than that) who says they want him to keep doing what he's doing but at a certain point they are going to want him to repudiate crop circles. Just once. He says he was spooked but refused. Not long after that he gave his famous assessment that 80 percent of crop circles are fake, which he also addresses in the video by saying this was NOT a result of this CIA visit. I hope that stuff is on the video Jeff linked to. Those two things were better than the main video and I don't know why they were only tacked on as "extras."<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Rigorous Intuition » Mon May 08, 2006 11:00 am

DE, I whole-heartedly agree. Those two "extras" are the most significant features of the DVD. The helicopters/blinking light sequence in particular, because there are, without question, two military helicopters intimidating observers at a fresh circle and interacting with an anomolous object. <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>What</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> is happening is open to conjecture, but that <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>something</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> is happening is indisputable. <br><br>Unfortunately the extras are not included in the online version I linked to. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: colin andrews

Postby Qutb » Mon May 08, 2006 5:21 pm

I've seen that footage. It's pretty interesting. I've also seen a video purportedly showing a crop circle being made, in a matter of a minute or so, by (?) these glowing lights. It was in another documentary I saw once. Anyone happen to know anything about that? Fake or real? As I remember, it's controversial but it's said that this video couldn't have been faked with the technology available at the time. Sorry I don't remember more details. But as far as I remember, the guy who claimed to have filmed it has now completely disappeared. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: colin andrews

Postby thoughtographer » Mon May 08, 2006 5:31 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I've also seen a video purportedly showing a crop circle being made, in a matter of a minute or so, by (?) these glowing lights. It was in another documentary I saw once. Anyone happen to know anything about that? Fake or real?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>If it's the one I'm thinking of that fits your description, it's a known fake.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>As I remember, it's controversial but it's said that this video couldn't have been faked with the technology available at the time.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>That old line always gets pulled out in situations like this, which is a bitch, because -- well -- look at how long the Patterson-Gimlin film has been a liability to "Bigfoot" research and Cryptozoology in general. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 5/8/06 3:43 pm<br></i>
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Re: colin andrews

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Mon May 08, 2006 7:46 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"I've also seen a video purportedly showing a crop circle being made"</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>I think that's probably the "Oliver's Castle" video. A very well made hoax:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.lovely.clara.net/cpr_ocfinal.html">OLIVERS CASTLE VIDEO - The Real Events</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.nhne.com/newsflashes/nfolivercastle.html">Report on Oliver's Castle Crop Circle Video</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Crop Circles: The Quest for Truth </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->contains apparently authentic footage of balls of light in the fields. One of the most interesting sequences includes a tractor at work. The driver stops to observe the orb, which passes about twenty feet in front of him. (The amateur filmmaker confirmed the sighting with the driver.) But again, for me the most persuasive video is the one including the two military helicopters. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 5/8/06 5:48 pm<br></i>
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Anyone got a logical scientific explanation for any of this

Postby slimmouse » Mon May 08, 2006 8:37 pm

<br><br> I mean crop circles and all ?<br><br> Or is that taboo around here lol ? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <br> Consciousness abounds ! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Anyone got a logical scientific explanation for any of

Postby thoughtographer » Mon May 08, 2006 8:48 pm

No, which is what the discussion is for.<br><br>Do you have an illogical, unscientific explanation? I'm guessing yes. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>
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Of course I do......

Postby slimmouse » Mon May 08, 2006 8:56 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Do you have an illogical, unscientific explanation? I'm guessing yes.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Of course I do<br><br> But if I told you that secret, then someone would have to kill me. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> Cant argue with Science or religion.<br><br> Usually end up dead if you do. Cant deny that, right ? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Of course I do......

Postby thoughtographer » Mon May 08, 2006 9:20 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Of course I do<br><br>But if I told you that secret, then someone would have to kill me.<br><br>Cant argue with Science or religion.<br><br>Usually end up dead if you do. Cant deny that, right ?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Argue all you want. Hey, I've hoaxed my own crop circles before -- they've been researched (poorly), documented and published, though I only discovered this some fourteen years after the fact. Even so, I'm more of a believer in the importance and significance of crop circles than ever before. Still, I wouldn't be so bold as to claim that I understand their many causes, meanings or importance to our shifting view of consciousness and the universe, since I don't know. You don't know. Nobody knows. If you're keeping a secret, then the secret is -- THAT YOU DON'T KNOW.<br><br>Wilhelm Reich died in prison; a sad, lonely and defeated man -- possibly driven to a state of mental illness during the course of his troubles with the FDA, or perhaps even before that -- ironic considering his training. People often use Reich's life and death to illustrate the point that opposing consensus reality will get you killed by the nebulous "powers that be" simply for vocally doing so, totally dismissing the significant details and propping him up as a poster child to serve their own vanity. I find this sort of behavior to be insulting to the pioneering spirit that people like Reich represented, and see it as a major force in driving bright people away from so-called "fringe" subjects. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>
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Who can blame them ?

Postby slimmouse » Mon May 08, 2006 9:26 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>People often use Reich's life and death to illustrate the point that opposing consensus reality will get you killed by the nebulous "powers that be" simply for vocally doing so, totally dismissing the significant details and propping him up as a poster child to serve their own vanity. I find this sort of behavior to be insulting to the pioneering spirit that people like Reich represented, and see it as a major force in driving bright people away from so-called "fringe" subjects.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br> Can you blame people, given what they are taught to believe about the nature of life and consciousness ?<br><br> Is that not part of the whole plan ?<br><br> Answers on a "dark side of the moon" album cover <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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