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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Lord Balto » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:41 am

Forgetting2 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:53 am wrote:OK, something weird about the Krikorian video on page 37. The one that shows the crash. The ones I downloaded from Krikorian's site, before he took them off his site, are 15 frames per second. An iPhone shoots at 30 frames per second; it doesn't give you an option. When you upload an iPhone video to youtube, it doesn't change the frame rate. It stays at 30 frames per second. I don't know how the original security cam footage was being played. For now I'll assume it's playing at 'real time,' which means the action taking place on the video is representative of the time the actions actually took place in. That would have then have been recorded at real time by Krikorian at the iPhone's 30 frames per second. (I'm pretty sure Krikorian said he used his iPhone. Need to double check that. Although I think most phone video's work the same, basically)

So why did he change it to 15 frames per second to upload the video? I did a rough estimate that at 15 frames per second the car is going 52 to 58mph. (the car is 180.7 inches long, by the Mercedes website stats-though it's hard to say how many times it's own length it moves per second because of the angle and blurriness) At 30 frames per second it would be going twice that speed; between 100 and 115mph. The testimony of the only eye witness said the car was going at 'top speed.' He said it was accelerating like he was trying to kill himself. A half mile earlier it was traveling at roughly 77 mph, assuming the LoudLabs video was not tampered with. The higher rate of speed in in keeping with the one eyewitness testimony.

I'm a little tired right now, but there seems to be something weird here...


The Zapruder film does the same thing. You cut out what you want to hide (or can't hide behind the fake freeway sign) and then you slow down the film so it looks like evrything's normal. What are they hiding? Evidence of a bomb? Automatic weapon's fire?
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Nordic » Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:39 am

Gotta love how the media has obviously been told to tell us exactly the opposite of the truth -- that somehow the toxicology reports debunk the "conspiracy theories" when in fact had it been found that he was drunk or high that would have actually been a great reason that he DID crash his fucking car.

I am so sick of this wag the dog bullshit. It is getting so out of control and is getting so transparent yet everybody still seems to fall for it. Which, i suppose, is why they keep doing it.

And this Sgt Biggs "friend" talking to AJ? What crap. You don't go on AJ's show unless you're deliberately trying to spread conspirotainment misinformation.

And that LA Weekly story is a lively hit piece on the guy, reminds me of the NIST fiction as to how WTC7 magically fell down -- let's write a narrative to explain the official lies. He was obviously going mad and doing drugs because he killed himself in a high speed single car crash late at night, right?!! This is 100% backwards deduction. But how many people are gonna notice. Its that liberal alt rag, right? Why would they side with the government assassins?

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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby elfismiles » Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:48 am

Nordic do you include Peter Dale Scott in that broad statement?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... e+scott%22

Nordic » 23 Aug 2013 15:39 wrote:And this Sgt Biggs "friend" talking to AJ? What crap. You don't go on AJ's show unless you're deliberately trying to spread conspirotainment misinformation.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Nordic » Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:55 am

PDS is likely old enough he didn't know what he was getting into.

I don't trust this Biggs guy. Or Hastings' Fox News Blond of a wife. (She was on Piers fucking Morgan for Gods sake!)! Why should I?
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Forgetting2 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:13 pm

I wouldn't blame Biggs for going on Alex Jones. I don't think he knows who to turn to, and the possibility that his friend may have been killed by covert forces in the middle of Los Angeles might be an eye opener for him. Maybe I'm wrong about the guy; maybe I'm just projecting, but he seems genuine to me. And Jones does have a big audience. I know when I first saw Jones it took a little while to realize that that well had been poisoned.

As for Elise Jordan, she's a bit of a mystery. Maybe she was threatened. Maybe she just wants it all behind her. Maybe she's betraying him. Maybe she really is a Sharon Stone assassin wife, like in Total Recall, but I kind of doubt it.

Maybe I just want to believe her. Though her resume certainly gives one pause.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby barracuda » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:24 pm

Can we just line up the known bullshit associated with this story all in a row?

    - Hastings was notoriously clean and sober. Not.

    - The body was cremated against family wishes. Baloney.

    - Hastings car was going 35 mph. No fucking way.**

    - The tox report demonstrates methamphetamine use. No. It could be Adderal, Desoxyn, street crystal, character assassination, etc.

Now how about some things we do know:

    - Dvorak's reporting isn't worth dick. She's disqualified herself as a source. She just made shit up and reported it. I can't fucking believe people are still citing her around here.

    - Amphetamine use can lead to unpredictable behavior and can affect your judgement, your reflexes, etc., even when you aren't gacked.

    - Adderal addiction has known effects that may have bearing here.

    - Sgt. Biggs is now basically employed by Alex Jones.* (How'd that happen?)

    - Ritalin does not contain amphetamine.

    - McChrystal, Petraeus, Brennen - these people will fucking kill you.

Now for some known unknowns:

    - Why wasn't Hastings living with his family?

    - Were both his wife and late girlfriend spooks?

    - Are there really two (2) videos of the crash (mentioned in investigator's narrative)?

    - Tire marks (mentioned in investigator's narrative)?

    - Where was he going?

Now let's list all the things and people which need to be hacked and bribed and pressured to pull off this hit:

    - Brothers sent to LA before hit to fake "intervention" story.

    - Hastings' car hacked for control.

    - Hastings' car rigged with multiple explosive charges.

    - LoudLab paparazzi sent to film Hastings car running red.

    - LoudLab video altered.

    - Jose Rubalcava given fake story to sell to reporters.

    - Pizzeria video hacked and altered.

    - All other possible surveillance covered.

    - Krikorian enlisted to post video with believable story.

    - Sgt. Biggs given disinfo list to slowly leak to InfoWars.

    - Numerous LAPD beat cops and admins pressured to conform.

    - James K. Ribe forced to alter autopsy report.

    - Daniel T. Anderson fakes toxicology results.

    - Elise Jordan threatened.

    - Piers Morgan utilized.

    - Wurlitzer-wide press pressure to report Hastings as DUI, or nearly so.

Have I missed anything? I'm sure I have. I'm just trying to get a sense of what it takes to pull off an assassination of this sort.

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elfismiles » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:19 am wrote:Biggs is gonna be on with AJ today to talk about all this


@ 2:50 here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x13i91 ... jones_news

Not much to it, imo.

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* He's now reporting on subjects other than Hastings.

** The LoudLabs video shows Hastings blowing through the red at Santa Monica Blvd. So at this point, presumably, his car was hacked and under spook control.



Then three blocks later slowed to 35 mph (?) and yet still visibly fishtailing in the pizzeria video.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby justdrew » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:07 pm

repost.

the video is 15fps, progressive. shot on a iPhone4S. If the frame rate had been changed in another application it most likely would have removed the Model: iPhone 4S line.

Someone with a old 4S would need to look into it's recording capabilities, it must be able to do it, back then, that may have been the default.

justdrew » 27 Jul 2013 16:49 wrote:I went to the guy's blog and download the source "vid" file.

It's just an AVC quicktime video, from an iPhone 4s. It appears they couldn't download the REAL source video from the security system, so he shot a video of a computer screen playing it back.

Here's media info on the source:
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt
File size : 523 KiB
Duration : 26s 137ms
Overall bit rate : 164 Kbps
Recorded date : 2013-06-18T18:47:52-0700
Encoded date : UTC 2013-06-19 01:49:49
Tagged date : UTC 2013-07-27 22:47:10

Writing application : 6.1.3
Writing library : Apple QuickTime
Make : Apple
©xyz : +34.0833-118.3391+068.000/ here
Model : iPhone 4S

Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L1.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=30
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 26s 137ms
Source duration : 26s 200ms
Bit rate : 136 Kbps
Width : 224 pixels
Height : 128 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Rotation : 180°
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 15.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.317
Stream size : 435 KiB (83%)
Source stream size : 436 KiB (83%)
Title : Core Media Video
Encoded date : UTC 2013-06-19 01:49:49
Tagged date : UTC 2013-06-19 01:50:00




Something I just noticed... The car had just successfully navigated through the division of Highland a block back...
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Project Willow » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:15 pm

barracuda » 23 Aug 2013 08:24 wrote:Can we just line up the known bullshit associated with this story all in a row?

    - Hastings was notoriously clean and sober. Not.


FWIW, the autopsy report says he was not intoxicated at the time of the accident, it was not a factor. The drugs were found in trace amounts.

barracuda » 23 Aug 2013 08:24 wrote:Now let's list all the things and people which need to be hacked and bribed and pressured to pull off this hit:

    - Brothers sent to LA before hit to fake "intervention" story.


Not necessary.

barracuda » 23 Aug 2013 08:24 wrote:- LoudLab paparazzi sent to film Hastings car running red.


Not necessary.

barracuda » 23 Aug 2013 08:24 wrote:- LoudLab video altered.

- Jose Rubalcava given fake story to sell to reporters.

- Pizzeria video hacked and altered.

- All other possible surveillance covered.


Not necessary.

barracuda » 23 Aug 2013 08:24 wrote:- Krikorian enlisted to post video with believable story.

- Sgt. Biggs given disinfo list to slowly leak to InfoWars.

- Numerous LAPD beat cops and admins pressured to conform.

- James K. Ribe forced to alter autopsy report.

- Daniel T. Anderson fakes toxicology results.

- Elise Jordan threatened.

- Piers Morgan utilized.

- Wurlitzer-wide press pressure to report Hastings as DUI, or nearly so.
Have I missed anything? I'm sure I have. I'm just trying to get a sense of what it takes to pull off an assassination of this sort.


Pressuring LAPD is not some anomalous or extraordinary thing, the department is a veritable arm of the security apparatus, IMO. The corporate press is going to do what it always does, for myriad reasons, most of which do not require secret threats or phone calls. Same goes for much of the rest on your list. I don't think the toxicology was faked.

All "they" had to do to pull off this hit was rig his car. According to the neighbor/friend interviewed in the LA Weekly article, that's exactly what Hastings was afraid of, immediately prior to the accident. Maybe his own paranoia killed him, if what you say about the lasting effects of amphetamines is true, maybe he was suicidal and wanted to make his death look like a hit, or maybe "they" were out to get him.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Nordic » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:20 pm

Barracuda, we all put up with (barely because we have to) devils advocate crap, but that last post of yours is just blatantly dishonest. Because you know good and well your list doesn't have to be "all of the above" in order to have been an assassination. Quit acting like you're the smartest guy in the room and talking down to us. You constantly insult the intelligence if everyone here and act like a pompous ass in the process.

The only thing that needs to be true is that they hacked his car. All the other shit is incidental.

We know its a piece of cake for the black ops spooks to hack this car, we know they had motive to kill him, and we now know he was pretty sure his car was being hacked.

And we know the media is lying about this story the way they lie about everything else.

Everything else is bullshit.

Also how many reporters who might be considering following in Hastings' footsteps are now deciding against it considering its a career path that will likely lead to your ignoble fiery death?
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby 82_28 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:41 pm

Have I missed anything? I'm sure I have. I'm just trying to get a sense of what it takes to pull off an assassination of this sort.


Easy. You hack the expensive car's extensive computer system. Perhaps he was fucked up. But a lot of people get fucked up and drive jalopies that don't blow up when they crash it.

I'll say it again. My going theory of most possible is that he pulled the emergency brake because he had lost control of the car causing it to spin out control while acceleration was still imposed upon the drivetrain. Add to that the possibility of some sort of incendiary. I'm sure the possibility of him just being fucked up is a likely reason as well. However, there is the added feature of his back story and what he was engaged in and the message sent. All in all, I just don't know. Perhaps he was indeed suicidal or something and this was his last message.

That LA Weekly article is interesting in that it reveals that Hastings was totally into Hunter S. Thompson and for the time of his (HST) death there was also speculation as to the reason. He was writing some serious anti-war, anti-bush shit back then and on ESPN to boot. They both just offed themselves under suspicious circumstances given the reasons as to their voice and impact. To me, this is something to think about. They were just "fucked up and suicidal" -- yet very vocal about the bullshit the government feeds us.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Forgetting2 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:58 pm

justdrew » 23 Aug 2013 09:07 wrote:repost.

the video is 15fps, progressive. shot on a iPhone4S. If the frame rate had been changed in another application it most likely would have removed the Model: iPhone 4S line.

Someone with a old 4S would need to look into it's recording capabilities, it must be able to do it, back then, that may have been the default.


Heh, you're talking about the 4s as if it's ancient tech. I have a 3gs. It doesn't vary frame rates when recording. Just does 30fps. Looking around I see people posting that the 4s will vary from 30fps to 24fps depending on lighting conditions. If it was really dark, maybe it'll do 15fps? Maybe there's an app that does that?
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby justdrew » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:15 pm

Forgetting2 » 23 Aug 2013 10:58 wrote:
justdrew » 23 Aug 2013 09:07 wrote:repost.

the video is 15fps, progressive. shot on a iPhone4S. If the frame rate had been changed in another application it most likely would have removed the Model: iPhone 4S line.

Someone with a old 4S would need to look into it's recording capabilities, it must be able to do it, back then, that may have been the default.


Heh, you're talking about the 4s as if it's ancient tech. I have a 3gs. It doesn't vary frame rates when recording. Just does 30fps. Looking around I see people posting that the 4s will vary from 30fps to 24fps depending on lighting conditions. If it was really dark, maybe it'll do 15fps? Maybe there's an app that does that?


sry, can't remember the whole iphone release history, I was thinking of the 4S as being the 3gs, so it's not so old I guess.

don't know, that's the whole dump of "media info" all the embeded metadata, changing the framerate isn't a small deal, and the video would have to be re-encoded to do that.

I would have to guess that he used some video recording app that allows slower frame rates. but given the small size of the video (which is also lower resolution than normal isn't it?) I'd have to guess he was using some Profile setting for "streaming" or something. I think the video app must have some settings, as the phone is capable of much higher resolution at 30fps, isn't it?. There must be a setting :shrug:

just checked:
the default video recorder on a 4S is only 1080p resolution. no settings, no adjustment. (thanks apple, you know best! don't let me choose)

So he must have used another app.

There's one called camcorder pro that allows settings choices, probably others. Surprised it didn't name itself in the metadata though.

A good point is that it acquired the strange ".vid" extension. What gives that?

He may have used some app that automatically uploads to some online service and then downloaded the video from that site.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Project Willow » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:19 pm

Nordic » 23 Aug 2013 09:20 wrote:Barracuda, we all put up with (barely because we have to) devils advocate crap, but that last post of yours is just blatantly dishonest. Because you know good and well your list doesn't have to be "all of the above" in order to have been an assassination. Quit acting like you're the smartest guy in the room and talking down to us. You constantly insult the intelligence if everyone here and act like a pompous ass in the process.


Hey now, leave off the ad homenins, please.

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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby barracuda » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:20 pm

Project Willow » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:15 am wrote:
barracuda » 23 Aug 2013 08:24 wrote:Can we just line up the known bullshit associated with this story all in a row?

[list]- Hastings was notoriously clean and sober. Not.


FWIW, the autopsy report says he was not intoxicated at the time of the accident, it was not a factor. The drugs were found in trace amounts.


I've abused a wide, wide variety of amphetamines, street and scrip. You won't convince me that doing so has no effect on judgement and reflex, even days after last consumption, even after intoxication seems to have gone. Add to that the known, admitted aspect of Hastings' addiction, and it gets worse, because the addiction compounds effects during intoxication and withdrawal.

barracuda » 23 Aug 2013 08:24 wrote:Now let's list all the things and people which need to be hacked and bribed and pressured to pull off this hit:

[list]- Brothers sent to LA before hit to fake "intervention" story.


Not necessary.


Why not?

barracuda » 23 Aug 2013 08:24 wrote:- LoudLab paparazzi sent to film Hastings car running red.


Not necessary.


Why not? Remember, the paparazzi was out at that time due to a tip regarding Justin Bieber.

barracuda » 23 Aug 2013 08:24 wrote:- LoudLab video altered.

- Jose Rubalcava given fake story to sell to reporters.

- Pizzeria video hacked and altered.

- All other possible surveillance covered.


Not necessary.


If you accept Rubalcava's story, the explosion happened after he hit the tree.

If you don't think the Pizzeria video was altered, fine.

Pressuring LAPD is not some anomalous or extraordinary thing, the department is a veritable arm of the security apparatus, IMO. The corporate press is going to do what it always does, for myriad reasons, most of which do not require secret threats or phone calls.


Totally agree, but it goes on the "to-do" list, right?

Same goes for much of the rest on your list. I don't think the toxicology was faked.


The mention of methamphetamine on the tox report means one of two things: Hastings was doing crank, or the report was fudged. Take your pick. Personally I'm very, very doubtful he was a crankster. It strikes me as character assassination, whether or not it was a hit.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby barracuda » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:29 pm

Nordic » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:20 am wrote:Barracuda, we all put up with (barely because we have to) devils advocate crap, but that last post of yours is just blatantly dishonest. Because you know good and well your list doesn't have to be "all of the above" in order to have been an assassination. Quit acting like you're the smartest guy in the room and talking down to us. You constantly insult the intelligence if everyone here and act like a pompous ass in the process.


Look, broheim, I'm assembling the case for and against the hit by responding to speculation on the thread. Anything on my list you disagree with, counter it, please. If you want to sit back and just say THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A HIGH TECH ASSASSINATION OMG SHEEPS END OF STORY, fine, go ahead, don't let me bother you, I understand that perspective intimately. It's intrinsic to the landscape.

The only thing that needs to be true is that they hacked his car. All the other shit is incidental.


I couldn't disagree more strongly. That's why I made the list. There are lots of little jobs to take care of here, and they're all important.

One conclusion I draw from making this list is: if this is a hit, it wasn't McChrystal or Petraeus. Only Brennan has the grease, the tech, and the manpower to make this happen.
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