But why do so many people deny that happens?
Or deny that it has any significance?
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by tapitsbo » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:04 pm
by American Dream » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:39 pm
tapitsbo » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:54 pm wrote:Where I live I constantly meet anarchists who do exactly that with their rhetoric.
As for prominent figures, seems like that's already been discussed all over this board by those who are better qualified than myself.
What's more deserving of attention, figures like Icke, Jones, etc, etc
Or the issues they obscure?
I've never met anyone in real life who was an "Ickean".
I HAVE met a lot of people who said that people in authority bore no responsibility for the world's problems. But were eager to pass judgement on those with less authority than themselves. (The relationship of a professor and student comes to mind!)
by seemslikeadream » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:45 pm
American Dream » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:39 pm wrote:I know a few people who are really stuck on Icke .
by OP ED » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:08 am
tapitsbo » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:16 pm wrote:The management techniques handed down in the administration of the "empire that never ended" seem to indicate something centralized, organized, and intelligent. Maybe not monolithic. Maybe not even a "black brotherhood" although belief in one is encouraged by all sorts of sources.
It seems pretty clear to me that figures like Icke are used as props to make any discussion of this seem absurd. Which is why the focus on him strikes me as weird, especially since there seem to be maybe only one or two posters on this board who maintain Icke-type beliefs.
I believe people with more power have more responsiblity. Sure we all play a part in the extinction of the human race, but some play more of a part than others.
Why is it that the left so often wants to hold "little people" to strict standards of accountability while people with authority are forgiven as being avatars of impersonal forces beyond human control?
It's almost enough to remind you of bullying tactics used by the right...
by seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:37 am
by American Dream » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:50 am
seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:37 am wrote:At least I have other interests on this board...AD on the other hand has nothing better to do than to spam this board with Icke as a pretext for his anti-semitic bullshit...no one on this board is an anti-semite and I resent AD implying that there is......Mr. Bob Dole
by Searcher08 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:09 am
by American Dream » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:40 am
AD, you see anything Ickean or remotely connected in your mind with Icke as anti-Semitic.
You use the phrase 'anti-Semitic' THREE TIMES more than anyone else. 323 times.
You refer to Icke [b]more than anyone else on the board[/b]. 431 times
The number of times that myself or slad would be talking about Icke would probably be tiny, but you turn every thread about them into 'anti-Semitism', whether by intention or not.
You also give a free pass to people like MiB, whose materialist reductionist bollocks worldview I would suggest is much more of a threat in the world than Annunaki.
I think there isnt a person on or who reads RI who isnt aware of your position or has been for years.
You have been posting a megathread on TIDS and other people have (pretty much) just left it alone. You plug Icke threads get plugged into 'anti-Semitism' a la ADL; pseudoskepticism a la MiB; the meta-conflict on R.I. about dissociation from those whose views we disagree with vs not;
So I see you being left respectfully to your own TIDS area, yet when others post anything with 'Six Degrees of D.I.' you go into 'anti-Semitic' mode. Always.
So a question to ask yourself is... why did there used to be really rare short sharp multi-viewpoint Icke threads that finished without a board meltdown or lasting rancour - and now they last a month, end up causing huge conflict and strife and a huge waste of time and attention which (I assert) would be far better used in other ways?
by wintler2 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:35 am
by seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:37 am
wintler2 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:35 am wrote:I for one am in awe of American Dreams patient, resolute and pretty tireless efforts showing up conspiritards like David Icke. Thats really just tiresome maintainence compared to his/her real work assembling epic threads like Economic Aspects of Love & Tantra Induced Delusional Syndrome.
Thanks AD, & don't let the turkeys get you down, squarking "AD is a meanie.." & shitting copypasta diarrhea on the carpet is all they know how to do.
by seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:54 am
Searcher08 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:09 am wrote:I think there is an important point raised here, which should be mentioned.
AD, you see anything Ickean or remotely connected in your mind with Icke as anti-Semitic.
You use the phrase 'anti-Semitic' THREE TIMES more than anyone else. 323 times.
You refer to Icke [b]more than anyone else on the board[/b]. 431 times
For reference, Slad refers to anti-semitism 105 times, Icke 259 times
The number of times that myself or slad would be talking about Icke would probably be tiny, but you turn every thread about them into 'anti-Semitism', whether by intention or not.
You also give a free pass to people like MiB, whose materialist reductionist bollocks worldview I would suggest is much more of a threat in the world than Annunaki.
I think there isnt a person on or who reads RI who isnt aware of your position or has been for years.
You have been posting a megathread on TIDS and other people have (pretty much) just left it alone. You plug Icke threads get plugged into 'anti-Semitism' a la ADL; pseudoskepticism a la MiB; the meta-conflict on R.I. about dissociation from those whose views we disagree with vs not;
So I see you being left respectfully to your own TIDS area, yet when others post anything with 'Six Degrees of D.I.' you go into 'anti-Semitic' mode. Always.
So a question to ask yourself is... why did there used to be really rare short sharp multi-viewpoint Icke threads that finished without a board meltdown or lasting rancour - and now they last a month, end up causing huge conflict and strife and a huge waste of time and attention which (I assert) would be far better used in other ways?
by OP ED » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:25 pm
American Dream » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:33 pm wrote:
How will you bring your message of anti-Racism to your community, slim?
wintler2 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:35 am wrote: tiresome maintainence compared to his/her real work assembling epic threads like Economic Aspects of Love
by Wombaticus Rex » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:32 pm
OP ED » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:25 am wrote:[q this seems to be largely ignored by moderation, as if its become so normal that even the gatekeepers are numb to it.
by seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:33 pm
by slimmouse » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:39 pm
the party could self-dissemble after about 6 months of diverting funds from war chests and insoluable nonwars [like the one on "drugs"] into establishing a non-scarcity-based economy (the first step towards equality is eliminating poverty, not wealth) and use the other half of the new bugdet surplus to balance debts and redistribute technologies and resources into education and training programs designed to prepare its citizenry to make deicisions on their own.
[and OP ED could retire on Mars in a few year)
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