How to Overthrow the Illuminati

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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby American Dream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:25 pm

coffin_dodger » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:17 pm wrote:Iam said:
How about you telling us what it is that you admire so about Icke, to defend his reputation as you are and to condemn as you have those who do not share your viewpoint? I'd really like to know.


OK, seeing as I'm 'reading challenged', perhaps we should start at the very beginning - please bear in mind that I am less intelligent than yourself.

Please refer me to anywhere on this site that I have endorsed, praised or passed any kind of positive comment with regard to David Icke.

Thanks.


As you might guess, I think Icke is very bad news for the conspiracy community and for positive social change.

What about you- what are your thoughts on him?
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby Searcher08 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:29 pm

Many modern logic systems reject the law of excluded middle, replacing it with the concept of negation as failure. That is, there is a third possibility: the truth of a proposition is unknown. The principle of negation-as-failure is used as a foundation for autoepistemic logic, and is widely used in logic programming. In these systems, the programmer is free to assert the law of excluded middle as a true fact; it is not built-in a priori into these systems.

Mathematicians such as L. E. J. Brouwer and Arend Heyting contested the usefulness of the law of excluded middle in the context of modern mathematics [9]

Stéphane Lupasco (1900-1988) has also substantiated the logic of the included middle, showing that it constitutes "a true logic, mathematically formalized, multivalent (with three values: A, non-A, and T) and non-contradictory".[10] Quantum mechanics is said to be an exemplar of this logic, through the superposition of "yes" and "no" quantum states; the included middle is also mentioned as one of the three axioms of transdisciplinarity, without which reality cannot be understood.[11]
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:33 pm

Is Rigorous Intuition now a web site for social change?

If I wanted that I could have stayed at Democratic Underground

Do we now have AD's permission to be a conspiracy community...just without someone he disapproves of?

Please inform us AD who you would approve of...who can we link to here ...who has your RI seal of approval
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby American Dream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:43 pm

seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:33 pm wrote:Is Rigorous Intuition now a web site for social change?

If I wanted that I could have stayed at Democratic Underground



Perhaps I misread or misunderstood before. Did you previously say something about being kicked out from Democratic Underground?
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby vanlose kid » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:44 pm

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Just out of curiosity: What do people here think of Orwell's Illuminati Theory? Is it of any use? Does it explain anything?

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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:47 pm

vanlose kid » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:44 pm wrote:*

Just out of curiosity: What do people here think of Orwell's Illuminati Theory? Is it of any use? Does it explain anything?

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!!! What a great damn wikipedia entry. Thank you, VK.
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:48 pm

American Dream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:43 pm wrote:
seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:33 pm wrote:Is Rigorous Intuition now a web site for social change?

If I wanted that I could have stayed at Democratic Underground



Perhaps I misread or misunderstood before. Did you previously say something about being kicked out from Democratic Underground?


yes I was banned from Democratic Underground purposely ...I purposely wanted to be banned from DU because I did not want to be affiliated with that site any longer...I no longer could justify my world point of view with the said rules and attitude of the owners of that site...it was not democratic or underground ....total bullshit truth in advertizing
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby coffin_dodger » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:50 pm

American Dream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:25 pm wrote:
coffin_dodger » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:17 pm wrote:Iam said:
How about you telling us what it is that you admire so about Icke, to defend his reputation as you are and to condemn as you have those who do not share your viewpoint? I'd really like to know.


OK, seeing as I'm 'reading challenged', perhaps we should start at the very beginning - please bear in mind that I am less intelligent than yourself.

Please refer me to anywhere on this site that I have endorsed, praised or passed any kind of positive comment with regard to David Icke.

Thanks.


As you might guess, I think Icke is very bad news for the conspiracy community and for positive social change.

What about you- what are your thoughts on him?


Well AD, as it happens, I think he's mad. I think he had an 'episode' on a hillock 20-odd years ago that made him delusional. However, I also judge our 'leaders' to be mad. And their sickness worries me a lot more than David Icke does. They have armies - with like, you know, serious fucking weapons of death and destruction - at their disposal. They have a broadly-complicit mass media. They have a financial system at their disposal with which to promote and demote nations as they see fit. I could go on, but you may get the point. Or not. David Icke is a distraction.
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:52 pm

DI has nothing on the serial killer george bush...but in AD's mind he is way more dangerous


why the distraction?
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby American Dream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:55 pm

coffin_dodger » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:50 pm wrote:
American Dream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:25 pm wrote:
coffin_dodger » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:17 pm wrote:Iam said:
How about you telling us what it is that you admire so about Icke, to defend his reputation as you are and to condemn as you have those who do not share your viewpoint? I'd really like to know.


OK, seeing as I'm 'reading challenged', perhaps we should start at the very beginning - please bear in mind that I am less intelligent than yourself.

Please refer me to anywhere on this site that I have endorsed, praised or passed any kind of positive comment with regard to David Icke.

Thanks.


As you might guess, I think Icke is very bad news for the conspiracy community and for positive social change.

What about you- what are your thoughts on him?


Well AD, as it happens, I think he's mad. I think he had an 'episode' on a hillock 20-odd years ago that made him delusional. However, I also judge our 'leaders' to be mad. And their sickness worries me a lot more than David Icke does. They have armies - with like, you know, serious fucking weapons of death and destruction - at their disposal. They have a broadly-complicit mass media. They have a financial system at their disposal with which to promote and demote nations as they see fit. I could go on, but you may get the point. Or not. David Icke is a distraction.


I would tend to agree with you. Sometimes I have wondered if he is a slick disinfo guy but I lean more towards the idea that he is fucking nuts

Certainly he is no good for the conspiracy world and really, really bad as a guide for meaningful social change...
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:56 pm

American Dream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:55 pm wrote:
coffin_dodger » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:50 pm wrote:
American Dream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:25 pm wrote:
coffin_dodger » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:17 pm wrote:Iam said:
How about you telling us what it is that you admire so about Icke, to defend his reputation as you are and to condemn as you have those who do not share your viewpoint? I'd really like to know.


OK, seeing as I'm 'reading challenged', perhaps we should start at the very beginning - please bear in mind that I am less intelligent than yourself.

Please refer me to anywhere on this site that I have endorsed, praised or passed any kind of positive comment with regard to David Icke.

Thanks.


As you might guess, I think Icke is very bad news for the conspiracy community and for positive social change.

What about you- what are your thoughts on him?


Well AD, as it happens, I think he's mad. I think he had an 'episode' on a hillock 20-odd years ago that made him delusional. However, I also judge our 'leaders' to be mad. And their sickness worries me a lot more than David Icke does. They have armies - with like, you know, serious fucking weapons of death and destruction - at their disposal. They have a broadly-complicit mass media. They have a financial system at their disposal with which to promote and demote nations as they see fit. I could go on, but you may get the point. Or not. David Icke is a distraction.


I would tend to agree with you. Sometimes I have wondered if he is a slick disinfo guy but I lean more towards the idea that he is fucking nuts

Certainly he is no good for the conspiracy world and really, really bad as a guide for meaningful social change...


Tell us all what conspiracy world you live in AD? And do you see this site as a site for social change?

Cause I do not
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby American Dream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:58 pm

vanlose kid » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:44 pm wrote:*

Just out of curiosity: What do people here think of Orwell's Illuminati Theory? Is it of any use? Does it explain anything?

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While I don't agree with Orwell's choice to snitch for the Government, a quick read makes me think it's a fairly devastating critique of the Soviet Union:

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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:03 pm

Chapter III is especially intersting -- I had never noticed how damn strong the similarities are to Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars.

The historical review describes how, in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, mechanised industrial production raised "the living standards of the average human being very greatly", and that it became "clear to all thinking people that the need for human drudgery, and therefore to a great extent for human inequality, had disappeared . . . hunger, overwork, dirt, illiteracy and disease could be eliminated within a few generations" — a threat to the Party’s perpetuity, because, ". . . if leisure and security were enjoyed by all alike, the great mass of human beings who are normally stupefied by poverty would learn to think for themselves", become politically conscious and so depose the ruling oligarchy; therefore, ". . . in the long run, a hierarchical society was only possible on a basis of poverty and ignorance". Given that large-scale, mechanised production could not be eliminated once invented, the Party arranges the destruction of surplus goods – before that makes "the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent". Hence the perpetual war

"...is always so planned as to eat up any surplus that might exist after meeting the bare needs of the population . . . It is a deliberate policy to keep even the favoured groups somewhere near the brink of hardship, because a general state of scarcity increases the importance of small privileges and thus magnifies the distinction between one group and another."


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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:04 pm

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby Searcher08 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:30 pm

seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:33 pm wrote:Is Rigorous Intuition now a web site for social change?

If I wanted that I could have stayed at Democratic Underground

Do we now have AD's permission to be a conspiracy community...just without someone he disapproves of?

Please inform us AD who you would approve of...who can we link to here ...who has your RI seal of approval


Is Rigorous Intuition now a website for binary logic skeptics?
If I had wanted that, I could have joined JREF or the Richard Dawkins site.

If I wanted 'You are either with us or against us", I'd ask Dubya if he needs someone to wash his paint brushes.
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