she was fucking armed with a 4,000 lb car ramming into a baracade hitting an officer backing up and speeding away ...how many people do you want to see run over ...hit while the officers just stand there ...wait for her to get hungry and go through the Mac's drive up?
seemslikeadream » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:00 pm wrote:somebody (Locked & Loaded) needs to watch the video....the police did not shoot at the woman immediately even though their guns were drawn at the beginning of the incident it was only after she backed up drove away, left the scene after hitting an officer
and she has been under investigation in Conn. before this happened
I don't care when they shot at her. They eventually did and their approach to her only escalated her response thus ensuring her being shot and endangering others including her child and innocent bystanders. With all the tracking that goes on these days, they could have watched her from afar and grabbed her when she stopped for gas or a Big Mac.
Are you seriously going to contend the point of my post? You don't think these guys are ready to rumble? All the equipment and training for nothing? If shit doesn't happen, they have to make it happen or else these guys lose their skills and their nerves.
An unarmed woman, possibly disturbed but that shouldn't matter, has been shot and killed because police forced her into a response and you take the side of the police.
There is a special place in hell for women who don't help other women.
(Keynote speech at Celebrating Inspiration luncheon with the WNBA's All-Decade Team, 2006) ― Madeleine Albright
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Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
seemslikeadream » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:00 pm wrote:somebody (Locked & Loaded) needs to watch the video....the police did not shoot at the woman immediately even though their guns were drawn at the beginning of the incident it was only after she backed up drove away, left the scene after hitting an officer
and she has been under investigation in Conn. before this happened
You don't think these guys are ready to rumble?
Well it's like what happened in the greater Boston area. Some people argued it was necessary for authorities to shut down large parts of Mass. state. Yet that doesn't happen in other cases of a lone nutcase in a getaway vehicle. They literally had armored police vehicles, tens of thousands of cops/agents/paramilitary, often going door to door harassing people with guns drawn. Or the intentional surrounding and grizzly burning of Dorner alive in southern california.
"Do you know who I am? I am the arm, and I sound like this..."-man from another place, twin peaks fire walk with me
ok she runs up on a curb and kills your kid...now you tell me you're gonna say oh that cop should have waited till she finished her big mac
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.
how about all those Iraqi kids you were so concerned about earlier?
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
she was fucking armed with a 4,000 lb car ramming into a baracade hitting an officer backing up and speeding away ...how many people do you want to see run over ...hit while the officers just stand there ...wait for her to get hungry and go through the Mac's drive up?
Painting her into a corner is increasing the chances of her running someone over....and that's exactly what happened. Jesus, a woman was shot and killed by trigger itchy cops and a child is now motherless and impacted with this trauma for the rest of its life because the cops forced a response. You do know this is why many jurisdictions have rules against police chases, don't you? It's for this very reason.
she wasn't painted into a corner for christ sake watch the video before you continue this discussion you don't know what you're talking about
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
wow you were joking about caring about Iraqi children suffering from our bombs?
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
she wasn't painted into a corner for christ sake watch the video before you continue this discussion you don't know what you're talking about
You're scaring me. To side this easily with the police state is rather unnerving especially at a venue such as RI. Have you ever seen the movie The Reader? Amongst other things, it shows what ordinary people are capable of doing to other ordinary citizens when following authority, or even what they'd advocate.
how about all those Iraqi kids you were so concerned about earlier?
It was a purposely ironic statement. Satire. Dark, yes, but satire. These are dark times.
And I'm still concerned about them and always will be.
Hey I like your humor and point, a lot.
It occurred to me how much I absolutely detest Obamacare/ACA, not because I was told it is "bad" from right wing trogledytes...but because of this smothering smarmy trendoid Obama age telling me to accept it....and that begins to make me think: "Will victims of Obamas drones or Bush's bombs be eligible for Obamacare?". It's a rhetorical question designed to not be able to be answered, it's just some of the smug modern day mainstream "liberals" bother me as much as the right wingers. It's like you can't have outside opinions, everything has to be curated in a little safe box. It's why I truly feel 60's era civil rights, women rights and anti war activists would want to spit in the face of most the privileged trendoids masquerading as "concerned progressives" today.
"Do you know who I am? I am the arm, and I sound like this..."-man from another place, twin peaks fire walk with me
wow you were joking about caring about Iraqi children suffering from our bombs?
No, about Madeleine Albright being painted in a positive light by Feminist.com as a positive role model. It's irreverence to her and to the publication that chose to highlight her as a role model.
It's why I truly feel 60's era civil rights, women rights and anti war activists would want to spit in the face of most the privileged trendoids masquerading as "concerned progressives" today.
Damn straight. Even further, imagine what Emma Goldman would think of this behavior.
she wasn't painted into a corner for christ sake watch the video before you continue this discussion you don't know what you're talking about
You're scaring me. To side this easily with the police state is rather unnerving especially at a venue such as RI. Have you ever seen the movie The Reader? Amongst other things, it shows what ordinary people are capable of doing to other ordinary citizens when following authority, or even what they'd advocate.
I see Seemslikeadream's point, I do. If an individual is trying to hurt people with a speeding car, it's bad...but I also see your point.
And to the overall point of blindly going along with authority...I think back to how, after 9/11, so much of the 1999 and 2000 era activists talking about WTO, Seattle, IMF, Stolen election by Bush ALL THE SUDDEN became mindless pro authority idiots in the wake of 9/11. "I'm liberal but maybe Bush is right in going into Afghanistan and all these new security measures"... "AFGHANISTAN WAS THE RIGHT WAR, IRAQ IS THE BAD WAR"(a refrain I heard to the point of wanting to vomit)
Most liberals today, like their right wing compatriots, would be willing to accept tanks in the streets and full on no kidding martial law, deportation of minorities, etc in the wake of a large scale terror attack. HELL, look at Boston bombing and the car chase...people on here were even defending the martial law tanks in the street insanity. And that was only after a few people died in a home made rice cooker explosion.
"Do you know who I am? I am the arm, and I sound like this..."-man from another place, twin peaks fire walk with me
f*ck that video I am not even clicking on it ..it is irrelevant to the discussion...here is a video of what actually happened ..discuss the facts not fairy tales...try and stay focused on reality
and you can watch it with the sound off as I did cause I can't stand Faux News ....I'm just posting it for the video of the real world event
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
needs to watch the video....the police did not shoot at the woman immediately even though their guns were drawn at the beginning of the incident it was only after she backed up drove away, left the scene after hitting an officer
