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Re: DC Capitol Shooting 2013

Postby elfismiles » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:16 pm

I just wonder if this was truly all a big mistake ... whether or not she was emotionally disturbed ... I just wonder if she accidentally got caught up in something and experienced a panic attack and freaked out.

But this seems to be the time for Americans to become fully aware of what Martin Cannon said the ptb used to refer to as "Wavies" ... people who believe they are being harassed by mysterious energy/radio/mind-control waves. EDIT: or in this case ... the Truman Show delusion:

The reality show
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Reminds me ... I just learned last night about the origins of the James Bond movie-title MOONRAKERs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonrakers


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lEldWWjyyo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt3oQN0cAv0

Capitol Suspect Miriam Carey Believed Obama Electronically Monitored Her
Oct. 4, 2013
By MIKE LEVINE and RUSSELL GOLDMAN
Mike Levine More from Mike »Digital Journalist, Law Enforcement & Homeland Security
Russell Goldman More from Russell »via Good Morning America

The woman who led police on a high-speed chase near the U.S. Capitol before being shot dead had a history of mental illness and believed President Obama was electronically monitoring her Connecticut home in order to broadcast her life on television, sources said.

Sources told ABC News that Connecticut police had twice in 2012 been called by Miriam Carey's boyfriend, who reported the woman was delusional, acting irrationally and putting her infant daughter in danger.

Carey, 34, a dental hygienist from Stamford, Conn., was killed by police Thursday after trying to ram a White House gate and leading cops on a chase down Pennsylvania Avenue with her 1-year-old daughter in the car. The toddler was uninjured and placed in police custody.

According to sources Carey believed she was the "prophet of Stamford" and was capable of communicating with Obama.

Her mother, Idella Carrey, told ABC News that her daughter had been hospitalized after suffering post-partum depression.

On Dec. 10, 2012, police were called to Carey's home by her boyfriend Eric Francis, 54, father of her baby. Francis told police Carey was emotionally disturbed and he believed his daughter was in danger, according to sources.

Carey told police President Obama had placed Stamford on lockdown and had arranged to have her home electronically monitored and her life broadcast on television, sources said.

Police handcuffed Carey and remanded her for a mental health evaluation. According to sources, Carey had a family history of schizophrenia and was taking medication for a mental illness.

On Dec. 21, Francis again called police to report his girlfriend was "off her medication" and acting erratically.

In January, the source said, a state social worker met with Carey and Francis and Francis told the social worker that Carey was "100 percent back to normal." Carey told the social worker she had been diagnosed with post-partum depression, was on prescription medication, and was receiving treatment, the source said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/capitol-suspec ... d=20470498

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Re: DC Capitol Shooting 2013

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:20 pm

and the reaction by the cops is all their fault.....they should have known all this before reacting to the situation

I think the blame should be assigned somewhere else
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
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Re: DC Capitol Shooting 2013

Postby Carol Newquist » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:33 pm

These Men in Black remind me of deer hunters who lay out seed corn all summer and early fall before deer season so the deer frequent the spot. It's usually a field and then when deer season rolls around they stand together as a group at the edge of the field along the tree line, or even up in stands , and slaughter the deer as they come to feed and then take the carcasses home and say "look at me....me big man...me kill deer," back-slapping each other and calling each other stud all along the way.
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Re: DC Capitol Shooting 2013

Postby barracuda » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:56 pm

"Ramming the gates":



17 shots fired.

The police injury, self-inflicted:

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Re: DC Capitol Shooting 2013

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:04 pm

Where are these men in black?

are you just talking about the cops?

yeah right the Capitol Hill cops were just standing around waiting to kill somebody...anybody

why didn't they just kill that baby too while they were at it? :roll:


split second decisions ...everyone second guessing the situation ... :roll: :roll:

why didn't they just kill her and the baby right off the bat before she sped away like a deer in the corn field? :roll:

blood thirsty baby killing bastards that they are :roll:
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Re: DC Capitol Shooting 2013

Postby elfismiles » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:54 pm

DC Shooting: Shame on You New York Daily News
Kelley Beaucar Vlahos,October 04, 2013

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Miriam Carey, killed by police yesterday in Washington, DC. Credit: Facebook

UPDATE: More grist: “law enforcement sources” now telling NBC News that Carey, “may have thought that President Barack Obama was stalking her.” Old boss tells NBC affiliate that she was fired from old job for being “too rough” with dental patients.

The New York Daily News should be ashamed, as well as any other news outfit that has jumped to conclusions in favor of the mentally-ill-woman-police-were-just-doing-their-jobs-and-by-the-way-they’re-heroes-we-live-in-a-scary-world storyline. But the New York City paper, known for dwarfing word space and actual copy with hyperbolic Citizen Kane headlines and even bigger paparazzi photography, takes the prize for reporting on yesterday’s shooting of an unarmed mother on Capitol Hill.

There was horror on the Hill when a crazed Connecticut woman who tried to ram her way into the White House was shot and killed Thursday after leading police on a high-speed chase through the heart of Washington.

Now we know someone is trying to earn their hard-boiled, wiseguy writing chops here, but step off Lee Tracy, this account is so far from reality that it goes beyond Big Apple embellishment. It’s just plain wrong. There is no evidence, yet, that 34-year-old Miriam Carey of Stamford, Connecticut, who has been identified as the dead woman, tried to “ram the gates of the White House,” which the Daily News and a host of irresponsible news reports charged willy-nilly on Thursday. As for being “crazed,” there is some thread of unknown origin that Carey had been suffering from “mental illness,” “mental issues,” “depression” and/or“post-pardum depression” (the last two were from the Daily News gumshoes who stalked Carey’s family in New York Thursday night, snapping photos of their weary faces from across the street).

Simply put, from all the interviews I’ve scanned on the story — some of the most authoritative reporting I’ve seen so far has been from The Washington Post — thebest picture I can get is that Carey was a dutiful dental hygienist, who was generally liked, and for some unknown reason drove down to Washington with her one-year-old daughter in a luxury car, where she led police on a deadly high-speed chase.

Meanwhile, eye-witness accounts and raw video tell a different story about “crazed woman” in the Infiniti sedan. It looks like she might have made a wrong turn down a cordoned street (of which there are many) around the White House (though to be entirely fair, the DC police chief says it was no “accident,” but has offered to details to that end). She was yelled at, according to witnesses, by a plain-clothed guard and others who banged on the hood of her car. She freaked, hit the guard and a makeshift barricade that was put in her way, then tried to turn around and flee. Shots were fired at her car and the chase ensued. It ended in a hail of bullets when Carey emerged from the car, outside the Hart Office Building on Capitol Hill (not far away), reportedly unarmed. From Time:


B.J. Campbell, 69, a tourist visiting from Portland, Ore., said he saw the black car drive past White House security. Officers began “banging on the car, yelling at her,” Campbell told TIME. One tried to use a bicycle rack to box in the vehicle, but the car spun around and rammed into the rack and hit the officer, who was not wearing a uniform. The officer, whom the Associated Press identified as a Secret Service agent, was knocked onto the hood of the car and rolled off onto the street, according to Campbell. However, another witness said the officer got up and did not appear to be injured.

No evidence yet has been provided, save for rumors, that she was “crazed,” or that she was trying to “ram the barricades” in some Kamikaze-style mission to wreak havoc on “the heart of our nation,” which, frankly, is how the blaring headlines sounded the alarms here in Washington yesterday when the facts were still fuzzy. Capitol Hill was on lock down, with everyone — last month’s horrific Navy Yard shootings no doubt fresh on their minds — fearing the worst. Washington, the city under siege. The media, which is always in the same place at the same time on Capitol Hill, swarmed the crime scene. But it turned out not to be the work of terrorists at all, but an unarmed black mother whose side of the story, essentially, will go to her grave.


Meanwhile, beyond the garish headlines and the applause — yes, the police got a “standing ovation” from members of the House of Representatives afterwards, ostensibly for riddling a woman’s car and body with bullets— we know nothing except a woman is dead and her child, motherless.

The police will no doubt be excused for engaging in a dangerous high speed chase through the streets of Washington, endangering pedestrians and the child inside (there are confusing reports about whether they saw the baby inside before she left the White House area or not) and then shooting Carey dead. This is a post-9/11 world, where she could have easily been careening toward the Capitol, armed with a trunk full of explosives, right? The truth is, more people are killed by cops each year than terrorists have attacked our cities. We need to get to the bottom of what happened to Miriam Carey, and keep the terror bugaboo out of it. And please, New York Daily News, stop acting like a law enforcement apparatchik, just do your job and report the facts. If they’re not readily available, don’t make them up.

http://antiwar.com/blog/2013/10/04/dc-s ... ews/print/

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Re: DC Capitol Shooting 2013

Postby Carol Newquist » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:06 pm

The MSM gets to choose the angle every time. If this was in a gated community in Orlando, it would be racial profiling and Obama would be saying "if I had a Mother, she would look like Miriam Carey." But instead, in this case, her race had nothing to do with her being shot and murdered because the terrorist or crazed lunatic angle was more salacious. What's also interesting is that some who thought Zimmerman was a profiling, cold-blooded murderer actually believe the Capitol Police aren't profiling murderers. I'm not saying profiling occurred or didn't occur in either of these cases, but if make the claim for profiling in one, how can you not in the other?
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Re: DC Capitol Shooting 2013

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:11 pm

oh I didn't realize she had skittles in her hand ...it all makes perfect sense now
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Re: DC Capitol Shooting 2013

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:41 pm

justdrew » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:28 am wrote:this doesn't fit with that, at all. this is not "one of those incidents"

Sometimes people get startled and lose their shit and do stupid things, it looked to me like she might have taken a wrong turn, not seen the raised bars in the road (the 'gate') and just ran into them. Then freaked completely out at the wild response. It sounds to me like the only ones shooting were the authorities, mistaking their own gunfire and they shot one of their own in the fusillade.

So far I don't think we have any reason to think she was acting crazy, it could be as simple as an overactive Flight response, or/but also... an attempt to flee people shooting at her baby. The roads there are a little weird. Could easily have just been an accident.


Regardless of the person's true intents, the narrative is already created, stamped and approved. HOURS within this woman dying, the media already had all sorts of "she had a history of mental illness" stories and specials already to go. Now it's "she was paranoid Obama was following her".

So yes, in the public and media's mind, this is yet another recent "nutjob with deadly intent"(and black) causing chaos in downtown Washington DC
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Re: DC Capitol Shooting 2013

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:43 pm

Carol Newquist » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:40 am wrote:
this doesn't fit with that, at all. this is not "one of those incidents"


Even if it's not, for the majority of the population the window of opportunity to explain it's not has closed because of the rapidity of communication and the power of first impressions. Can you say WMD's or Al Qaeda in Iraq? Same mechanism is at play. If you poll U.S. citizens, a significant number of them still believe there were WMD's in Iraq and there was a nexus between Saddam and Al Qaeda....even though both reported claims have been proven to be verifiably false. Why is this? Because "they" knew that the power of first impressions means you lead quickly with the message you want encoded for good. This strategy works like a charm, you have to admit. To many, this incident regardless of later coverage to the contrary, will be an incident involving yet another wacko terrorist freak.


Totally. I mean it came out in the mainstream that most of the so called "busted terror plots" in America post 9/11 were indeed FBI orchestrated sting entrapments. Rolling Stone did a big article, Olbermann did a big two parter on it. But only us "conspiracy" people will remember those facts...the majority will remember a "string of terror plots the government stopped in the nick of time"
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Re: DC Capitol Shooting 2013

Postby Luposapien » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:11 pm

Of course, it's important to note that, in a quasi metaphorical sense, it's quite possible that she really was being monitored by Obama, or at least by the the security apparatus which he has been struggling to defend, if not in as personal a manner as she suspected. Also, that her life did indeed become the subject of a nationally televised reality show event. Self fulfilling prophesy, or perhaps something deeper? I've suspected for a while that at least some of what is labeled schizophrenia is actually a mental state where the sufferer has tapped into the true nature of our reality, which expresses itself through metaphor, but which is mistaken as literal by the experiencer.

In any case, though I'm sure that many law enforcement officers are decent human beings who truly believe they are supporting the public good, just as many are sociopaths that discovered they could get away with it by putting on a uniform, the machine is going to do what it was designed to do, regardless of who is pulling the levers.
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Re: DC Capitol Shooting 2013

Postby elfismiles » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:11 pm

8bitagent » 04 Oct 2013 19:43 wrote:Totally. I mean it came out in the mainstream that most of the so called "busted terror plots" in America post 9/11 were indeed FBI orchestrated sting entrapments. Rolling Stone did a big article, Olbermann did a big two parter on it. But only us "conspiracy" people will remember those facts...the majority will remember a "string of terror plots the government stopped in the nick of time"


yeppers ... nor:

NSA director admits to misleading public on terror plots
The administration has been amping up stats about foiled plots to bolster support for mass surveillance

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/02/nsa_dir ... singleton/

“There is no evidence that [bulk] phone records collection helped to thwart dozens or even several terrorist plots,” said Leahy. The Vermont Democrat then asked the NSA chief to admit that only 13 out of a previously cited 54 cases of foiled plots were genuinely the fruits of the government’s vast dragnet surveillance systems:

“These weren’t all plots, and they weren’t all foiled,” Leahy said, asking Alexander, “Would you agree with that, yes or no?”

“Yes,” replied Alexander.
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Re: DC Capitol Shooting 2013

Postby Carol Newquist » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:25 pm

I've suspected for a while that at least some of what is labeled schizophrenia is actually a mental state where the sufferer has tapped into the true nature of our reality, which expresses itself through metaphor, but which is mistaken as literal by the experiencer.


Lupo, I have had that very same notion for a number of years now. In this sense, they're both gifted and cursed.
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Re: DC Capitol Shooting 2013

Postby Carol Newquist » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:09 am

Police pulled child from car THEN executed woman!


Let's have a moment of silence for these brave heroes who were just doing their job. They were just saving the planet, afterall. With this woman gone, a species was spared extinction.

No trauma for the child. Happy Happy!

Next incident, please.
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