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Re: Breaking Bad

Postby Carol Newquist » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:22 pm

smiths, yes, that Catholic angle is intriguing. Even if not consciously, that Catholic upbringing had to have an influence in some way, but there's a good argument that allegorical elements were purposely slipped into the story line at the end as that blogger underscored. There's one thing that blogger overlooked that supports his theory. I mention this because as I've said, these writers thought of everything. The script is purposeful in every respect....especially the last season per their own words. Here's what I said elsewhere about it:

Remember at the Schwartz's Walt mentioned facing East right before mentioning the name of the mountains, Sangre de Cristo. Well, the East has religious symbolism as all directions do. The East became a place where God intervened on behalf of his people, bringing them salvation. It's weird how he slipped in and out of places like a ghost, i.e. Skyler's pad. Perhaps it was a risen Walt returning to set matters straight. Intervening on behalf of his people (family, to include Jesse who was always family to him....in a very dysfunctional way). To turn the Red Door Black. Walt was the Anti-Christ.


Another poster had this theory which is related and along the same lines, although there are some holes in it, but nonetheless, food for thought. So many interpretations, so little time (2032).

He died in a New Hampshire bed in "Granite State" (IE, Rigor Mortis), and his last thoughts was the revenge fantasy that became "Felina". It's a reach, I know, but Granite = frozen, solid, unmovable: So "Granite State" could be interpreted as "frozen solid", hence rigor mortis. Plus: Marie is wearing white? Walt magically has his green shirt and khaki pants on when meeting Skyler? So many odd little details that don't quite make sense unless you see it as all playing out in Walt's mind. Again, it's a reach, but it somehow makes sense to me.
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Re: Breaking Bad

Postby The Consul » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:36 pm

Tallest peak of Sangre Del Cristos is Blanca Peak. White Peak.
Walt would have had to have driven a bit north and a bit east of Alb to see them, but it is a show and geography is always expendible. Can't think of any place I'd rather spend than Northern New Mexico in late spring when it rains an hour or so before sundown. Kind of atmospherics that make you wonder if you died and went to heaven. And as it starts to pass into the night and everything opens up, well, there are words, but none of them do.
I would have had his hat blown up by the dust wind to the top of Enchanted Mesa. Many have gone there and never been the same.
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Re: Breaking Bad

Postby Carol Newquist » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:57 pm

Nice catch, The Consul...White Peak. Yes, New Mexico is a magical place. It's not called the Land of Enchantment for no reason. There is something special about the place. We visited Santa Fe for a several day trip about five years ago, and I couldn't sleep....but not in a bad way. There was an inexplicable energy in the atmosphere and I just never felt tired. Who knows, maybe it's home to some sort of portal to another world or something. Perhaps that's one of the reasons they worked on the first atom bomb there. They had to be close to the Monolith.

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Re: Breaking Bad

Postby smiths » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:29 pm

we are not as fictional as Walt,
i can take your hand, metaphorically, offer you genuine peace and goodwill, and we can both go through our days feeling better, empowered even,
i cant do that for Walt ...

i agree with your assertion that Walt is not a sociopath, he is torn apart by regrets, he makes poor decisions because of loyalties and a twisted sense of responsibility, as you point out he is prepared in the end to trade everything for Hanks life because he understands that he has been mistaken and deranged, he never stops trying to gain his family's love and appreciation for the sacrifice,

his great vice is that he enjoys it, and his undoing is that he is exceptionally good at it,

Todd is a sociopath, Gus Fring is a sociopath.

And yet, Walt makes a product that he knows destroys thousands of lives and kills many many people and he never mentions it or seems to give it any thought, isn't that sociopathic?

The mythical 'blue meth' is one of the most important characters in the series and yet the effects of Meth on society are surprisingly almost absent, yes there is scene here and there with a prostitute or a kid getting killed, and the scenes at Jesse's party house, but still, i think the effects of the drug are underrepresented in the series.
the question is why, who, why, what, why, when, why and why again?
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Re: Breaking Bad

Postby Carol Newquist » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:36 pm

justdrew posted this image in the Images only..(no captions, no words) thread. Since it's no captions and no words in that thread, I brought it here. Before I explain, take a close look at this entire image and tell me if you notice something applicable to Breaking Bad.

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It stood out to me immediately, FYI.
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Re: Breaking Bad

Postby justdrew » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:30 pm

I don't know :shrug: something about war/drug-war?
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Re: Breaking Bad

Postby Carol Newquist » Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:49 pm

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Re: Breaking Bad

Postby vince » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:05 am

There's something about that pink bear in a plastic bag.....
especially when they showed it in the plastic tub, and the air made the bag expand..... i don't know.. it dosen't nessesarily 'creep-me-out', but, it sticks in my head as weird.
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Re: Breaking Bad

Postby MinM » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:18 pm

@nately: This letter from Anthony Hopkins to @BryanCranston is the best thing ever: https://www.facebook.com/StevenMichael. ... 9892118039 … @RJMitte @abqjoker @deanjnorris

This was sent to us by the Great Actor Anthony Hopkins:

Dear Mister Cranston.

I wanted to write you this email - so I am contacting you through Jeremy Barber - I take it we are both represented by UTA . Great agency.

I've just finished a marathon of watching "BREAKING BAD" - from episode one of the First Season - to the last eight episodes of the Sixth Season. (I downloaded the last season on AMAZON) A total of two weeks (addictive) viewing.

I have never watched anything like it. Brilliant!

Your performance as Walter White was the best acting I have seen - ever.

I know there is so much smoke blowing and sickening bullshit in this business, and I've sort of lost belief in anything really.

But this work of yours is spectacular - absolutely stunning. What is extraordinary, is the sheer power of everyone in the entire production. What was it? Five or six years in the making? How the producers (yourself being one of them), the writers, directors, cinematographers.... every department - casting etc. managed to keep the discipline and control from beginning to the end is (that over used word) awesome.

From what started as a black comedy, descended into a labyrinth of blood, destruction and hell. It was like a great Jacobean, Shakespearian or Greek Tragedy.

If you ever get a chance to - would you pass on my admiration to everyone - Anna Gunn, Dean Norris, Aaron Paul, Betsy Brandt, R.J. Mitte, Bob Odenkirk, Jonathan Banks, Steven Michael Quezada - everyone - everyone gave master classes of performance ... The list is endless.

Thank you. That kind of work/artistry is rare, and when, once in a while, it occurs, as in this epic work, it restores confidence.

You and all the cast are the best actors I've ever seen.

That may sound like a good lung full of smoke blowing. But it is not. It's almost midnight out here in Malibu, and I felt compelled to write this email.

Congratulations and my deepest respect. You are truly a great, great actor.

Best regards

Tony Hopkins

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Re: Breaking Bad

Postby Carol Newquist » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:42 pm

If that letter is for real, it's the highest compliment an actor can receive....a compliment like that from another great actor. Hopkins has played so many great roles, but one of my favorites was Stevens in The Remains of the Day.

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Re: Breaking Bad

Postby Laodicean » Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:58 pm



^ Wow. Perspective.
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