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Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:54 pm

The Red Cross will this winter start collecting and distributing food aid to the needy in Britain for the first time since the Second World War, as welfare cuts and the economic downturn send soaring numbers of people to soup kitchens and food banks across Europe.

In what could be the start of an increased role in Britain for the Geneva-based charity best known for its work in disaster zones, its volunteers will be mobilised to go into supermarkets across the country at the end of November and ask shoppers to donate dry goods. The British Red Cross will then help the charity FareShare distribute the packets and tins to food banks nationwide.

Britain is just one of many countries where families are struggling to put food on the table. In a report released today into the devastating humanitarian impact of Europe’s financial crisis, the Red Cross recorded a 75 per cent increase in the number of people relying on their food aid over the last three years. At least 43 million people across the Continent are not getting enough to eat each day and 120 million are at risk of poverty.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 72496.html



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____ the Tories.

(^^Insert your own verb.)
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Re: Fuck the Tories

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:58 pm

^^From the same article:

Some senior Tories have dismissed the problem, with Lord Freud claiming in June that families using food banks were simply after free meals, while Education Secretary Michael Gove said last month that users were often those who could not manage their finances properly.


HOW SHOULD THESE PEOPLE BE ADDRESSED??

They are Nazis. (And the first person to invoke Godwin's so-called Law here has lost the argument.)

Gove was criticised at the May 2013 National Association of Head Teachers conference, whose members condemned what they said was a climate of bullying, fear and intimidation that he had created during his time as Education Secretary. They passed a vote of no confidence in his policies.[4] Votes of no confidence were also passed by the Association of Teachers and Lecturers at conference in March 2013,[5] the National Union of Teachers at its conference in April 2013 (unanimously), and by the NASUWT.[6]

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Re: Fuck the Tories

Postby blankly » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:46 pm

No f word necessary, this carries intrinsic obscenity

"Dominic Cummings, the most influential adviser to the education secretary in the past five years, also argues in a revealing 250-page paper that "real talent" is rare among the nation's teachers – and, eye-catchingly, says educationists need to better understand the impact of genetics on children."

quoted from http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... NETTXT3487

and further down, continuing on Cummings

"He says: "There is strong resistance across the political spectrum to accepting scientific evidence on genetics. Most of those that now dominate discussions on issues such as social mobility entirely ignore genetics and therefore their arguments are at best misleading and often worthless." He claims research shows that as much as 70% of a child's performance is genetically derived."

I think we all know where this is going.
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Re: Fuck the Tories

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:10 am

That attitude is always there in the background, blankly, and it doesn't take much to bring it out. Sometimes it comes out in reverse though:

Tory peer claims welfare changes encourage poor to 'breed'

A new Conservative peer has claimed that Coalition changes to the welfare system will encourage “breeding” among those on benefits.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... breed.html


Every time a Tory says that people shouldn't have kids if they can't afford them, it reminds me that in their belief system no one ever has kids and then loses their job subsequently. :eeyaa

Of course, if you spend your whole life living off the public purse, as all high-ranking Tories do, then job insecurity is never much of an issue (except maybe for people like Andrew Mitchell - fair play to him, he does seem to have been misrepresented by the cops, but it was instructive how few friends he had in high places when the public mood turned against him). Got to hand it to the Tories. They are highly efficient when it comes to backstabbing and getting rid of their old pals, if not in any other area. The left is also guilty of similar silliness, though, except that they take years to get round to it.

When the Tories were mulling over the idea of using the child-killing benefits claimant Mick Philpott as an exemplar of the failings of the welfare state, I was almost tempted to wish they would go through with it in full.

In counterpoint, I could've said that Sir Jimmy Savile OBE was a fine example of a self-made man and entrepreneur who worked his way up from nothing via his individual talent to become a BBC stalwart, an adviser to the Palace, and an annual guest of the Prime Minister. Pulled himself up by the bootstraps, so he did. Aren't those Conservative values in action?

But they dropped the Philpott thing after realising how dumb it was. They are yet to realise how dumb the rest of their ideas are.

It's probably time for an inventory of what's been or is currently being privatised/sold:

Roads (up for auction)
Railways (sold!)
Schools (up for auction)
Hospitals (up for auction)
Police (up for auction)
Forensics (sold!)
Prisons (partially sold, a bit!)
Job Centres (arguable)
Mines (sold!)
Power Stations (sold!)
Houses (sold... mixed feelings on that one)
Military logistics, and R+D (sold, to a former head of the CIA!)
The channel tunnel (dunno)
Care homes (sold!)
Benefit offices (dunno)
Airlines (sold!)
Airports (sold!)
Sea ports (sold!)
Water (sold, except in Scotland)
Gas (sold!)
Telephones (sold!)
The post (sold!)
The buses (sold!)
The forests (sold!)
The rivers and reservoirs (sold!)
The steel industry (sold!)
The ship building industry (sold!)
The oil industry (sold!)
The rest of industry (sold!)
The NHS (some sold, some still up for auction)

The Tories did not do all of this, and New Labour laid the groundwork for the currently ongoing privatizations, but it's quite a list, innit?

Innit funny how before a thing gets sold, there is hugely increased media attention on it's failings (like with the NHS currently) but there is remarkably little rise in complaints by actual users of the service?

Then, after it gets sold, the media attention on it's failings dies off, while the complaints from actual users rise?

In't that strange?

The NHS in England and Wales will become increasingly shite, and will be increasingly stigmatised in the UK media for being shite, until it is (sold!), at which point they will not report so much on it's failings anymore. At least for a few years. Then we'll all be hearing about it again like it was Network Rail in the nineties.

Always the same.
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Re: Fuck the Tories

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:25 am

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Atlantic Bridge.

Ah warned ye's, didn't ah?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24635890

EDIT: On the subject of Michael Gove, did you know that this ridiculous arsehole has had a big bunch of King James Bibles printed up, each featuring a personal inscription written by himself, which he intends to distribute to every state school in the UK?

There could, just possibly, be an upside to his Free Schools policy, maybe, in another world where everyone was nice and middle-class and clueless - but this is simply not a man we can trust to keep the likes of "Applied Scholastics" out of our educational system. He is fucking dense as fuck.

My position on the use of swear words, btw, is it that I know a lot of phrases meaning "go away", but none have ever been as satisfying or effective as "fuck off."
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Re: Fuck the Tories

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:47 am

"We know what to expect...

The Conservative Party is not a party but a conspiracy …

Great vested interests banded together in a formidable federation; corruption at home, aggression to cover it up abroad; the trickery of tariff juggles; the tyranny of a party machine; sentiment by the bucketful, patriotism by the imperial pint; the open hand at the public Exchequer, the open door at the public house...

Dear food for the millions, cheap labour for the millionaire …"

Winston Spencer Churchill, June 1905.
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Re: Fuck the Tories

Postby coffin_dodger » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:45 pm

David Cameron May Take 'Tougher Measures' Against The Guardian
28/10/2013 Huffpo

David Cameron has indicated the government may try and use "tougher measures" against The Guardian to prevent it from publishing further revelations about the activities of British intelligence agencies.

Speaking in the House of Commons on Monday afternoon, the prime minister said while the government had not yet been "heavy handed" in how it responded to the dissemination of leaks from NSA whistle-blower Edward Snowden - it could crack down if it continued...

...Cameron added: "The UK has a very strong, long standing trust based relationship with the United States, not least as part of the 'Five Eyes' partnership...."


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/28/david-cameron-the-guardian-snowden_n_4170256.html

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Re: Fuck the Tories

Postby coffin_dodger » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:12 am

Gordon Brown: I'm an ex-politician
BBC News 31 October 2013

Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown has described himself as an ex-politician, despite still being an MP.

Mr Brown was asked his view "as a politician" during a panel discussion as part of the World Innovation Summit on Education in Qatar.

He interjected "ex-politician", before the panel chair, BBC journalist Mishal Husain, said: "You're still an MP," which he acknowledged.

continued...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24755543


Sorry to despoil your Tory thread, Mac - but I just wanted to point out that this ex-PM and now self-proclaimed ex-MP is shitting his breeches about even being involved in politics. Your weasly words are not going to absolve you, Gordon.
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Re: Fuck the Tories

Postby bks » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:52 am

peartreed wrote:
The use of obscenities is a vocabulary crutch evidencing the absence of more articulate, literate or descriptive alternatives to convey thoughts and emotion. It is a sloppy and offensive habit that is indicative of ignorant, low-brow and unnecessarily abusive banter. It is also an unfortunate disregard of decency, propriety and politeness. It requires I edit and delete discussion viewed here by my family, including curious children researching current affairs topic discussions for educational edification and schoolwork. Consideration needs to be given to the wide and varied audience seeking more mature, sophisticated exchanges here.


You are right that obscenity should never stand in for analysis or clear thinking. But the use of obscenities by itself it does nothing to damage children's sensibilities. That's purely a matter of reception. (I have a three year old who, due to my predilection and to the mild embarrassment of my partner and I, has quite well mastered when to use the phrase "fucking dammit!" Now I'd really rather he didn't, since it surprises his preschool teachers. But when I ask him why he said that, on multiple occasions he told me, "I'm frustrated," a word my partner had taught him).

Nor should maturity and sophistication be conflated (if you are conflating it) with absence of emotion or - more importantly - outrage. Ahab is right to quote Churchill: the Tories are a conspiracy to suck your blood dressed up in the finest haberdashery. They are a plague on the planet and a leading scourge of mankind. The proper response to them, when they have success debilitating the rest of us, is outrage. Toning down outrage suggests that their actions are not outrageous, which is the most vile and dangerous thing of all.

Your own view is unfortunately laced with particular judgments presented as natural facts. Everything is in the reception, friend. Words are nothing on their own. Of course they're never ON their own, but the milieu into which they're interjected is not fixed or even all that stable. Receiving "obscenity" as less problematic may in time make it so. Who/what is served by upholding the fiction that it's "indecent" to say "fucking damn it" when the sheer injustice of something calls for it? Obscenity is a particularly good way of punctuating outrage, and there's nothing wrong with that, kids.

I wonder if it isn't concern for order that's really your concern here, where a faulty determination is being made that because a person spouts profanity he might act violently or take revenge against the target of his profanity if he could do so with impunity. I wouldn't worry about it, if so. The great unfairness of it all is that if somehow the earth convulsed and persons like us were positioned for a moment to move the levers of power, the Tories would not have to fear for their safety or their social security in the slightest. My outrage now wouldn't blind me to their humanity then; compare that with the fact that it is their own coolness in the face of criminal expropriation that has always been the very condition of their ascendancy within their own class, and which is also the best evidence that their own vision of the humanity of others has been occluded. The real problem is - the OUTRAGEOUS problem is - we are still living in THEIR world, in which policies resulting in the murder (mostly abroad) and slow death (at home) of huge swaths of people are treated to theatrical chin-rubbing on television by a media class created just for that purpose, to give the appearance of depth and reasonableness to what is essentially a parasitic conspiracy.
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Re: Fuck the Tories

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:02 am

Thanks for that, bks.

I wish you (and kenoma) would post more here, and more often.
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Re: Fuck the Tories

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:59 am


"People say it's a limited vocabulary that makes you swear, but..."
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Re: Fuck the Tories

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:01 am

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Re: Fuck the Tories

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:05 am

coffin_dodger » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:12 am wrote:
Gordon Brown: I'm an ex-politician
BBC News 31 October 2013

Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown has described himself as an ex-politician, despite still being an MP.

Mr Brown was asked his view "as a politician" during a panel discussion as part of the World Innovation Summit on Education in Qatar.

He interjected "ex-politician", before the panel chair, BBC journalist Mishal Husain, said: "You're still an MP," which he acknowledged.

continued...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24755543


Sorry to despoil your Tory thread, Mac - but I just wanted to point out that this ex-PM and now self-proclaimed ex-MP is shitting his breeches about even being involved in politics. Your weasly words are not going to absolve you, Gordon.


May the Laird have mercy on his soul.

EDIT: Michael Gove's school Bible scheme has cost the taxpayer £350,000, just in case anybody thought my objections were religious.
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Re: Fuck the Tories

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:19 am



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Re: Fuck the Tories

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:02 am

Ahab wrote:Michael Gove's school Bible scheme has cost the taxpayer £350,000, just in case anybody thought my objections were religious
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Had Gove really been interested in supporting education, he would have given every school a free football with a photo of his face on it.

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And Gordon Brown ... the fact that he forgot he is still paid to represent the plebs proves that he is indeed a politician to the bone. (To be fair, though, it is the kind of thing that's easy to forget at an International Conference on Innovation in Qatar.)

May the Laird forgive me, I am beginning to distrust Democracy.
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