Egypt - Return of the deep state

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Re: Egypt - Return of the deep state

Postby stefano » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:21 am

Thanks AD, I'll listen to that in the car on Monday and revert.

Meanwhile, some snippets about how the army's using the current mood and government framework to make money. Links in the original but source articles are in Arabic.

It appears that interim president Adly Mansour issued a presidential decree allowing the state to directly award government contracts in cases of emergency. Which means, circumventing every rule of government procurement.

Because, hey, why go through the pesky process of bidding to pick the cheapest supplier… when you can pick the one in uniform?

And just like that – it appears that every government contract over the past few months has been an emergency..

So over the course of two months – from late September to late November – the army was awarded 7 billion EGP (1 bn USD) worth of government contracts in infrastructure by the council of Ministers. The breakdown is as follows. As you can see, clearly ‘emergencies’ justifying this direct contract awarding:

4.7 billion EGP for 27 bridges and a tunnel

2.2 billion EGP for the Sinai investment plan over FY 2013-2014

357 million EGP for housing projects in El Alrish – 132 buildings

170 million EGP for housing projects in Ras Sedr – 62 buildings.

The on December 21st that the Ministry of Local Development had earmarked 2 bn EGP for slum development projects which will be awarded (surprise, surprise) to the army, as per an MOU to be signed the following week. Another article a few days later detailed some of the ministry’s spending projects, and aside from the slum development, the Ministry also has projected spending another 2 bn EGP to develop 14 train level crossings (مزلقانات) across the country.

And guess who’s doing those? The Army.

Most mind-boggling is how government officials have been justifying these contracts: Minister of Local Development, General (yes…) Adel Labib stated the contracts were awarded to the army “to ensure they would be accomplished promptly and accurately”. The Council of Ministers, when handing its 7 bn EGP to the army, noted they were selected for “their efficiency and discipline in the rapid implementation of projects, all while ensuring the highest quality standards.”
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Re: Egypt - Return of the deep state

Postby stefano » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:25 pm

I listened to that podcast yesterday, good stuff. It's good to hear from that kind of activist. I've just got two comments:

Firstly, on El-Hamalawy's point that the military blame the Muslim Brotherhood for attacks by unrelated jihadist groups - I'm kind of agnostic about that. It's true that the MB has been blamed for attacks by other groups, but there are plenty of credible allegations that the MB has in fact been supporting the most notorious of those groups, which would fit with what happens in Tunisia between Ennahdha (ruling Islamist party) and Ansar Al-Sharia (jihadist group), and also would fit Alice's view of things and would make sinister sense as a strategy for an organisation whose objective is control.

Secondly, I really didn't like the host's dismissive statement that the youth revolutionaries were showing 'naivete' in participating in the late June demonstrations against Moursi, just because Sisi came next. That government was ruinous, and demonstrating against it was, I think, the ethical and authentic thing do to at the time. Even after everything that's happened you can't argue that Egyptians ought to have left the MB government in place, or, more broadly, that you should just suck up an iniquitous situation because there's a danger that what comes next will be worse. That kind of cynical calculation is what exploitative rulers thrive on, and it's not the action of a free person. Those people were right to stand up against Moursi, and they'll be right to stand up if the next government abuses them again (which is what I think will happen). This is the first time I've listened to him but I think Khalil Bendib brings some Algerian baggage with him; he also tried to force the Algerian civil war into this discussion more than once, even though there are plenty of reasons why it doesn't hold. Even Algeria isn't the Algeria of 1991 any more; Egypt still less.
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Re: Egypt - Return of the deep state

Postby stefano » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:05 am

Links in the original. Excerpts.

On Egypt’s Streets, It’s the Mob That Rules
by Mohamed El Dahshan
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In Alexandria [on 25 January 2013], mobs also assaulted virtually anyone who wasn’t actively declaring their love for Sisi. Angry crowds attacked journalists – and anyone with a camera, really. In one video, several women were assaulted so viciously that they sought refuge in a nearby shop. When the police dragged them out, bystanders insulted, hit, and sexually assaulted the vulnerable women. The police, naturally, did nothing but arrest the victims.

These angry masses are a force to be reckoned with — and they are also a malleable tool in the hands of the security forces. Perhaps the most tragicomic moment of protests occurred when, unaware that the camera was rolling, policemen threatened a private television crew, warning that they would “unleash people on you and tell them you work for Al Jazeera.”

Egypt is spiraling into fascism, and its descent is tangible, palpable, and well-documented. But it is this normalization of mob violence that frightens me most. Whenever you find yourself outnumbered by members of the opposing political camp, there’s a good chance you’ll fall victim to potentially deadly violence. This has become a regular fact of life — and that, to me, is much more frightening than the violence itself.
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But it was only in July 2011 that these freelance thugs won their tongue-in-cheek nickname: “Honorable citizens.” The “honorable citizens,” as distinct from the “paid thugs,” are the obedient attack hounds of the state. These are the people who, on July 23, 2011, at the implicit request of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces spokespeople and pro-government media, ambushed a march that was heading from Tahrir Square to the Ministry of Defense. It was this mob that murdered 23-year-old Mohamed Mohsen.

Since then, the “honorable citizens” — individuals who find sport in beating protesters with the enthusiastic consent of the security forces — have been a staple of every protest. They take out their frustrations — at political instability, at the bad economy, perhaps even at terrible weather — on protesters. Under Mohamed Morsi’s reign, the “honorable citizens” conducting the mass beatings were the Muslim Brotherhood’s rank-and-file members and supporters. Though more systematic and vicious, the civilians operated with the knowledge and guidance of the ruling authorities, terrorizing those who disagreed with their political ideology. Today they have been replaced by the extreme fringe of Sisi supporters.

Sexual violence is another horrible aspect of mob violence. Mass sexual harassment has been a recent staple of public holidays over the past decade; its use as a political tool is more recent and equally savage. Dozens of sexual assaults and rapes have been reported during the largest protests, as early as 2011. The handful of accounts offered by survivors and volunteers vividly documents the viciousness of the mobs.
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Talk of peace and compromise is meaningless amid a climate of constant intimidation by the mob and the authorities. The atmosphere of violence makes a mockery of any hope of reviving the tourism industry that was once so vital to our economy. A backlash is inevitable. This time around, it won’t take 60 years of army rule.
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And from Abdel Moneim Aboul Fotouh, the most prominent Islamist not yet in some dungeon:

"The people will get angry again and stage a revolution to oust this repression. The Egyptian people will not accept the current situation," said Abol Fotouh, a former Brotherhood member who came fourth in the 2012 election won by Mursi.

"The current repression is 10 times worse than Mubarak's time," he told Reuters in an interview.

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"What is happening now is a counter-revolution against the January revolution but it won't continue. The revolution will return," said the retired physician, adding that Egypt had become a failed state.

"There will be no stability for this region except through freedom and democracy. Without this there will be chaos and violence."
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Re: Egypt - Return of the deep state

Postby 82_28 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:06 am

So what is going on? Is this some sort of meta coup meant for a much, MUCH deeper purpose? Yet so shallow that it is invisible. . .

My hunch is this: They are liquidating in their plodding and victim to inertial ways in order to regain total control once again. They are going after the low hanging fruit in order to bolster the truth that they have been conscripted to prove.

Prove?

We are seeing the very act of how willing they are to NOT CHANGE in order to portray change. Shit filtered through these "mediums" we have at our disposal are there to plausibly CREATE stories. The stories are in fact the "news". It is bold new form of central casting brought to us by technocratic intents.
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Re: Egypt - Return of the deep state

Postby stefano » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:19 pm

Egypt's army chief Sisi goes to Moscow for talks

An Egyptian delegation that includes Defense Minister Field Marshal Abdel Fattah al-Sisi and Foreign Minister Nabil Fahmy headed to the Russian capital on Wednesday to discuss bilateral relations, Egypt’s army spokesman said.

The visit comes in light of news that the two countries will sign an arms deal worth 2 or 4 billion dollars and in response to a visit made by Russians ministers to Cairo in November.


That's an interesting one. I had thought the Pentagon and its arms dealer associates would be successful in re-establishing the status quo ante and remaining the sole supplier to Egypt's army. If this deal goes through I'll have been wrong (and Alice right). Will Washington respond by suspending aid again? Big gamble if they do, putting most of the influence they've built up since 1956 on a single hand. Interesting indicator, too, of the waning of US influence worldwide, I think, although there is ample evidence to the contrary.
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Re: Egypt - Return of the deep state

Postby AlicetheKurious » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:19 am

stefano wrote:Egypt is spiraling into fascism, and its descent is tangible, palpable, and well-documented. But it is this normalization of mob violence that frightens me most. Whenever you find yourself outnumbered by members of the opposing political camp, there’s a good chance you’ll fall victim to potentially deadly violence. This has become a regular fact of life — and that, to me, is much more frightening than the violence itself.


That whole article is such a steaming pile of crap, such a total fabrication, that it shocked even me (though it really shouldn't have). Having first claimed that the Morsy government was "democratically elected" despite the irrefutable evidence that every possible method of rigging the elections were used by the Brotherhood; then having claimed that the Egyptian military carried out a "coup" despite the fact that the Egyptian people came out in numbers that broke world historical records to demand the Brotherhood's removal and that the army only stepped in to carry out the people's will, and immediately handed power over to a civilian government led by the head of the Supreme Court exactly as the people demanded; then having claimed that the army and police are carrying out massacres and oppressing the people, despite the fact that all such claims have been refuted and in fact there is no credible evidence of this...

Having failed to demonstrate that, as the Brotherhood and its fellow agents claim, the Egyptian army is hated by the people, and faced with overwhelming evidence of the people's love for and solidarity with their national army, now the Egyptian people themselves must be defamed and maligned as a "fascist mob". Such barefaced lies, and a total reversal of the truth. I don't know which is more sickening: the lies themselves, or the ease with which they are swallowed by supposedly intelligent people.

Anyway, I had decided to check in, and now I have. Incidentally, I think the entire premise of this thread is dishonest, because current events in Egypt can only be understood as a continuation of the people's revolution that began on January 25th, 2011, and discussion of them should remain on the big thread. The past three years have turned out to be a sort of Rosetta Stone which has exposed much that was previously hidden, not just as pertains to Egypt, but to the region as a whole and even, to some extent to the game that is being played on a global scale.

The key to understanding what's been happening in Egypt is the word "imperialism". The Mubarak regime, the interim regime headed by Tantawy and Anan, and most of all the regime of the Muslim Brotherhood all were to different degrees imperialist subjects. The struggle of the Egyptian people is one against foreign, predatory imperialists and their domestic and regional agents. The struggle is hard, but it is succeeding for one reason: despite all the machinations to divide us, we are uniting instead, and this is driving our enemies crazy. So now it's the people themselves who are tarred as 'fascists', and thus their freely-expressed will should not be respected or even listened to. So, now that it's been established, according to the barrage of black propaganda that finds such an appreciative audience among some readers here at RI, that the Egyptian people are a "fascist mob", and their government is a mere puppet of the military, as is their judiciary, and the military itself (now that it has aligned itself with the people) is nothing more than a 'junta', whose opinion, then, should count when deciding Egypt's fate?

I'd really like an answer to this question.
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Re: Egypt - Return of the deep state

Postby stefano » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:03 pm

AlicetheKurious wrote:That whole article is such a steaming pile of crap, such a total fabrication, that it shocked even me (though it really shouldn't have).

You very obviously didn't read it, so I'm not quite sure what got you upset. The writer never says that Morsi was "democratically elected", or that the July, um, coup was a coup. What are you reacting to?

AlicetheKurious wrote: now the Egyptian people themselves must be defamed and maligned as a "fascist mob".

Again, you seen to be reacting to some other piece that you read elsewhere. Dahshan never says anything that remotely resembles a claim that the Egyptian people are a fascist mob. He says "Egypt is descending into fascism", and writes about instances of vicious mob justice tolerated or encouraged under four different recent governments. 'Fascism' is arguably a strong word, and not one I'd have used, but it is not completely out of line. You have a military leader who took power in a coup, a personality cult around him associated with the manipulation of emotive national symbols (down to making sure he has the highest rank in the army!), quite strict controls on dissent, journalism and freedoms of speech and assembly and special laws, in response to an emergency situation, that further restrict civil liberties. Again, I wouldn't use the word 'fascism', but comparable political configurations have been seen before, and in places where they have, there have always been mobs of the Generalissimo's supporters beating up dissidents and hippies while the cops point and laugh. And that is happening in Egypt, your talk of "lies" and "black propaganda" notwithstanding.

On the subject of calling a spade a spade: a coup d'etat is what it's called when the army removes a government from power. The nature and legitimacy of the deposed regime make no difference, nor does the popularity of the coup government. There are plenty of historical instances of coups against odious and hated governments that have been extremely popular among the people of the country. They're still coups.

AlicetheKurious wrote:Incidentally, I think the entire premise of this thread is dishonest, because current events in Egypt can only be understood as a continuation of the people's revolution that began on January 25th, 2011, and discussion of them should remain on the big thread. The past three years have turned out to be a sort of Rosetta Stone which has exposed much that was previously hidden, not just as pertains to Egypt, but to the region as a whole and even, to some extent to the game that is being played on a global scale.

Feel free to carry on on the big thread. I still have some questions there about reporting, and the military's relation to labour unions, that I would like to hear back from you on. This thread was my own little pinboard for evidence of my view of what's happening (as well as evidence that seems to contradict it), it's a little side thing.

AlicetheKurious wrote:despite all the machinations to divide us, we are uniting instead, and this is driving our enemies crazy. So now it's the people themselves who are tarred as 'fascists', and thus their freely-expressed will should not be respected or even listened to.

You are uniting by arresting people who say 'no' when the boss wants you to say 'yes'. That's not a freely-expressed will.
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Re: Egypt - Return of the deep state

Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:00 pm

stefano wrote:You very obviously didn't read it, so I'm not quite sure what got you upset. The writer never says that Morsi was "democratically elected", or that the July, um, coup was a coup. What are you reacting to?


I am reacting to the false narrative being promulgated to people like you, which has nothing to do with reality. This narrative began by blithely disregarding the tens of millions of Egyptians who rose up against the Brotherhood regime, a regime that had literally threatened to slaughter anyone who dared to oppose them. This is a regime that explicitly warned that they would unleash "rivers of blood" and that the entire country would be "torched", and also that they would launch their armed terrorists and their bombs against whoever participated in the announced uprising on June 30. This is irrefutable, very well-documented fact. I have posted some of the videos on the original thread.

I heard Christianne Amanpour and her counterparts in all the foreign media mourning the "end of the democratic experiment in Egypt" as the biggest popular demonstrations in the history of mankind demanded freedom from the tyrants who had made life intolerable and were in the process of destroying the country. Those demonstrators (and I and everyone I knew was among them) were shouting all over the country: "Down with the Brotherhood regime!" and "Deploy, Sisi!" The army faced a clear choice: remain on the sidelines and watch the Egyptian people being massacred by armed terrorists, or step in and do EXACTLY what the people demanded IN WRITING, in the Tamarod forms that more than 22 million Egyptians filled out, including their National ID numbers, and signed and submitted: that Morsy be removed, and replaced with the head of Egypt's Supreme Court until presidential elections could be held.

stefano wrote:Dahshan never says anything that remotely resembles a claim that the Egyptian people are a fascist mob. He says "Egypt is descending into fascism", and writes about instances of vicious mob justice tolerated or encouraged under four different recent governments.


That is disingenuous: he is clearly defaming the Egyptian people, the vast majority of whom support El-Sisi, describing them as fascists who perpetrate mob violence against "dissidents", which is a blatant reversal of the truth. In fact, we have two women who were murdered because they dared to play the song "Teslam el-Ayady," which thanked the army for saving us, a 10-year old boy whose fingers were shot off because he waved a picture of El-Sisi at a group of Morsy supporters, a taxi driver who was dragged from his car in Mansoura and stabbed to death because he raised his fingers in the "CC" sign at a group of Brotherhood marchers who were blocking the road, among many other instances of shocking and gruesome violence committed against those who support the army, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

You want to see what a "vicious mob" looks like? Here's a video of one of the Brotherhood's demonstrations last summer:



This is a video showing what the Brotherhood did to Mina Philip, a Coptic telecommunications engineer who was participating in a peaceful demonstration in front of Morsy's presidential palace in December 2012. The "vicious mob" keeps asking him his name, but because his name clearly identifies him as Christian, he keeps saying, "I swear I can't remember my name!" They brought him inside the walls of the presidential palace itself, where he and hundreds of other demonstrators -- including a retired ambassador and several journalists -- were tortured (also filmed) and in some cases killed (including the journalist Hussein Abu-Deif, who was shot in the head and his camera stolen after he'd spent nearly 10 hours documenting the Brotherhood's crimes). The survivors were handed over to Morsy's illegally appointed Attorney-General, and Morsy made a televised speech in which he declared that all of them had confessed to being agents-saboteurs paid by the political opposition parties. Meanwhile, the district attorney to whom they were assigned issued a statement that the evidence shows that they were victims, not criminals, and released them, much to the fury of the Brotherhood and Morsy himself.



I could post dozens of videos showing the Brotherhood's "vicious mob violence" against unarmed citizens and against police. Their tactic is to go on violent rampages vandalizing private and public property, including smashing cars and setting fire to trees and buildings. Then, when the police arrive, armed only with tear gas, they attack police with gunfire or buck-shot or Molotov cocktails. During the past few months, they've been taking advantage of a law that prevents police from entering university campuses unless the police are officially summoned by the president of the university:

This is what the Dean of Business Studies office at Al-Azhar University looked like after they'd finished:



They similarly rampaged through Cairo University, terrorizing students and professors and destroying property. This is what happened when the police were called:



stefano wrote: 'Fascism' is arguably a strong word, and not one I'd have used, but it is not completely out of line. You have a military leader who took power in a coup, a personality cult around him associated with the manipulation of emotive national symbols (down to making sure he has the highest rank in the army!), quite strict controls on dissent, journalism and freedoms of speech and assembly and special laws, in response to an emergency situation, that further restrict civil liberties. Again, I wouldn't use the word 'fascism', but comparable political configurations have been seen before, and in places where they have, there have always been mobs of the Generalissimo's supporters beating up dissidents and hippies while the cops point and laugh. And that is happening in Egypt, your talk of "lies" and "black propaganda" notwithstanding.


Every single statement above is false. We do not have a military leader, we have an interim civilian president appointed by the explicit will of the people, and presidential elections that will be held within the next two months. El-Sisi was promoted to Field-Marshal by the president in recognition of his incredible achievement, transforming the Egyptian armed forces from the sad state it was in when he took office in the summer of 2012, to a tight, highly-disciplined, well-trained fighting army within 6 months, an army that has performed extraordinarily well in the face of threats that have literally torn apart many nations. If the Egyptian people want El-Sisi to be their president, and it's impossible to deny that the overwhelming majority do, very much, to describe this as a "personality cult" is just a cheap shot. Personality cults are imposed by force from above, when in the case of El-Sisi, on the contrary, people have risked their lives and defied the Brotherhood's wrath to demand that he be the next president of Egypt. There are many very valid reasons for this, which I won't go into here. Furthermore, in order to be eligible to run, El-Sisi will have to retire from the army, and from his post as Defense Minister, and become an ordinary civilian, according to the constitution. This is, in fact, a very difficult decision for him to take, but as an outsider you can't imagine how much public, grassroots pressure is on him to do so.

We have a civilian government headed by a civilian prime minister, all appointed to keep the state functioning during this transition period by representatives of the Tamarod movement, all the opposition political parties, representatives of the civil society, representatives of the Islamic scholars of Al-Azhar and of the Coptic Orthodox Church. In the largest voter turn-out in Egypt's history, the Egyptians have already approved a new democratic constitution, and we will be electing a new parliament immediately after the presidential elections. (Incidentally, the constitutional referendum was monitored by 27,000 observers, including from the EU and around the world, as well as monitors from Egyptian civil society.) These are all facts. There are NO controls on "dissent", journalism, freedoms of speech and assembly, and NO "special laws". On the contrary, the constitution, which is now in effect, guarantees all these freedoms for all citizens equally. Despite the violence and the terrorism of the Brotherhood, no state of emergency has been declared, and all the constitutional rights are fully in force.

You can believe whatever you like about "mobs of the Generalissimo's supporters beating up dissidents and hippies while the cops point and laugh," but lies do not constitute evidence. And they are indeed lies.

stefano wrote:On the subject of calling a spade a spade: a coup d'etat is what it's called when the army removes a government from power. The nature and legitimacy of the deposed regime make no difference, nor does the popularity of the coup government. There are plenty of historical instances of coups against odious and hated governments that have been extremely popular among the people of the country. They're still coups.


No, it's not a coup, because it was not the military that removed the Brotherhood from power, it was the Egyptian people. Given the fact that, by June 30, 2013, the people were in open rebellion and most of the country was in a state of civil disobedience, the Brotherhood was still in power in name only. What the army did was to step in to defend the population against the armed terrorists who were hell-bent on punishing the nation for rejecting them. In the original thread, I posted videos of the churches and government buildings that they burned and looted, of their gangs shooting indiscriminately at people, etc. These are a tiny sample of the evidence proving beyond the shadow of a doubt that the ONLY "fascist mobs" -- armed, fanatic and incredibly violent -- are those who have been doing everything possible (with the support of their patrons in the US, Turkey, Qatar and Israel, among others) to terrorize and beat the Egyptian people into submission.

stefano wrote:You are uniting by arresting people who say 'no' when the boss wants you to say 'yes'. That's not a freely-expressed will.


Nobody has been arrested for saying "no". In fact, billions of dollars in funny money is being spent to market the very views here, that are being so aggressively promoted elsewhere, but with few exceptions, the Egyptian people are simply not buying. We have prominent journalists like Yosri Fouda, formerly of Al-Jazeera fame, and many others with well-financed prime-time programs dedicated to this very cause. But viewers, for some reason, are not interested. One formerly very popular show-host, Mona Shazly, had her show canceled because her viewers had dwindled to practically nothing. Whereas our own weekday evenings had previously revolved around her program, it was only several weeks after she'd been off the air that I even learned it had been canceled, and then it was through a friend's post on Facebook.

One case that has been widely touted in the international press as an example of how people can be arrested for saying "no", involved three Brotherhood members who were trying to glue some posters telling people to vote "no" to the constitution on the walls and windows of some residential and commercial buildings, without the residents' permission. When the shop-owners and residents tried to stop them, a fight broke out that rapidly escalated and police were called. They were arrested, not for saying "no", but for assault and vandalism. A similar cause celebre, touted as the arrest of a small group of people because their car had campaign posters for presidential candidate Hamdeen Sabbahy, was nothing of the kind. They had parked their car in front of a mosque at 11:00 pm (when mosques are closed by law), then the bearded men were seen by neighbors entering the mosque. Fearing that they were terrorists planting yet another bomb, neighbors called police, who came, checked them out and finding nothing illegal, let them go. That's it. It's a continuation of the tactic used by Al-Jazeera and the Brotherhood, which throws totally unsubstantiated accusations and numbers around, but never any real evidence to back them up.

Anyway. I'd really like to continue this conversation on the main thread, if you don't mind. It makes a lot more sense, for continuity's sake in what is very much one story that needs to be kept together.
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Re: Egypt - Return of the deep state

Postby American Dream » Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:18 pm

http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2014/02/1 ... is-choice/

Al-Sisi’s choice

Daily News Egypt / February 16, 2014 /

Field Marshal Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi has exactly the same reason to run and not run for Egypt’s president: he could win

By Hussein Ibish, Now.


Political power, rule, governance, and high office are often considered synonymous. But looks can be deceiving.

No one really doubts that the true power behind the throne in Egypt’s interim government is the newly-promoted Field Marshal Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi, who has been Commander in Chief of the Egyptian Armed Forces and Minister of Defence since August 2012. When he led the ouster of former President Mohammed Morsi in July 2013, Al-Sisi – although he remained only Defence Minister in deference to the Interim President Adly Mansour – certainly became the most powerful man in the country.

With new presidential elections scheduled for mid-April, the stage is now set for Al-Sisi to make the most crucial decision of his career: run or not. From his vantage point, there are powerful arguments in favor of, and against, both decisions.

The most important reason for him to run is that he would almost certainly win. The emerging field is narrow, with only the neo-Nasserist Hamdeen Sabahy among major Egyptian politicians to have declared his candidacy. By contrast, Abdel Moneim Abul Fotouh, the former Muslim Brother and reputedly now “moderate” Islamist, has refused to run, calling the new Egyptian state – in a not particularly original or apt phrase – a “republic of fear”. And the Salafist Al-Nour Party has said it will neither field nor support a presidential candidate for the next 10 years.

Many other potential rivals, including former Foreign Minister and Arab League chief Amr Moussa, have urged Al-Sisi to run as a “national saviour”. So has much of the media. The Supreme Council of the armed forces in late January virtually begged Al-Sisi to run for office, as have most of his colleagues in the interim government. So, as things stand, Sabahy seems to be the only real alternative to a potential Al-Sisi candidacy, and not a particularly threatening one at that.

What’s more, a fledgling cult of personality has developed around Al-Sisi that virtually ensures that if he runs, he will be elected regardless of whoever stands against him. Peddling items emblazoned with his image, no matter how crude, has become a quick and easy way to make a pound or two on the streets of Egypt’s major cities.

The adoration appears to be both spontaneous – a genuine outpouring of affection for the man who rid the country of the now-detested Muslim Brotherhood and who is seen as the embodiment of the military which guarantees order and security – and also coordinated. There is a degree of unanimity in the legally-operating popular media and culture that suggests a certain investment in this image. The campaign has stooped to the level of children’s cartoons, and sweets and candies bearing his picture in miniature.

Hero worship, let alone nascent cults of personality, must be a very seductive temptress. Rumoured transcripts and leaked reports only exacerbate fears that Al-Sisi may harbour fantasies of being a national saviour – as he is already perceived by millions, at least for now – and the confluence of popular adoration, political pressure from his exceptionally wide support base, and, perhaps, his own proclivities may make the lure of office irresistible to him.

But the most important reason for him not to run is precisely the same: that he would almost certainly win. There can be no question of how tempting this must be. But neither Al-Sisi nor any of his real allies should fail to recognise the serious dangers involved if he, in effect, leaves his position as head of the military and takes up that of head of state.

The honeymoon for the post-Morsi interim government has been remarkably sustained. It’s been based mainly on generalised popular relief of being rid of a detested Muslim Brotherhood government and a continued sense that the Brotherhood and its allies pose a threat to the Egyptian state. The crackdown on the Brotherhood, its designation as a “terrorist organisation”, and the recent announcement by the government that the Brotherhood has formed a “paramilitary wing”, have all met with general approval by most of the public, as far as anyone can tell.

However, honeymoons cannot last forever. The Egyptian people have been very clear that what they ultimately want is jobs, dignity, and a responsive, accountable government. This is exactly what they didn’t get from the Brotherhood, and if they don’t get it from another government, eventually they will turn on that one as well.

For Al-Sisi to give up his post as head of the military for that of head of state is risky on two counts.

First, it makes both him and, by inevitable and unavoidable extension, the military, responsible, as long as he is in office, for Egypt’s primary national challenges – not just security issues but much more intractable economic and social ones. It is unlikely that any government, no matter how much support and largesse it receives from Gulf states and others, can quickly secure a brighter economic future for a country with the huge population and economic woes of Egypt. Therefore, a backlash against both him and the military as an institution is a plausible medium-term risk, if not an outright likelihood, unless some kind of economic miracle takes place in Egypt.

Second, to become president would probably make it much more difficult for Al-Sisi to retain the control over the military that he has as defence minister and commander-in-chief. Under the new constitution, the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces gets to appoint the defence minister for at least the next decade. So could, as president, Al-Sisi effectively have himself appointed defence minister, and would this be legally upheld? And even if he could, his role as head of state and government in general would inevitably draw him away from the military’s operations on a day-to-day basis. Someone else, either in title or in reality, would become the de facto military chief.

So the real question is: which institution ultimately has more value in terms of power, control, and authority? The enormous apparatus of Egypt’s gigantic bureaucracy and government, or the military with its specialised role, relative autonomy within its sphere of influence, secret budget, and vast but uninventoried and unaudited economic holdings? Might Al-Sisi, by leaving the leadership of the military to take up the main seat of government, be trading a much more secure diadem of real power and authority for a hollow crown of responsibility for irresolvable problems such as Egypt’s profound economic woes?

Of course, Egypt is unique, as is Al-Sisi’s immediate conundrum. But it might be worth recalling a situation with some vague similarities, long ago and far away: the experience of Juan Perón. There isn’t an iota of Peronismo in either Al-Sisi’s personality or political rhetoric, and the differences between the two are vast. But both men arose from the military at a time of profound economic and political crisis and turmoil in their countries. Neither had a coherent ideology, but each was able to attract huge and incongruous coalitions around their individual personae and iconic imagery.

Perón never had the total control of Argentina’s military that Al-Sisi seems to command now in Egypt. And Al-Sisi lacks Perón’s personal charisma (although, after having been bellowed at by Morsi and his allies for so long, many Egyptians may be profoundly drawn to Al-Sisi’s quiet dignity and low-key style).

For all of the differences of time, place, personality, and political style, both men seemed to emerge from the military as wildly popular political leaders through authoritarian populism, hero worship, and nationalist fervour. Both were essentially blank screens onto which huge ranges of popular forces could project their own fantasies. That can’t last when combined with direct political responsibility.

By becoming president, Perón lost two key things over time: the ability to balance his unwieldy coalition of ideologically incompatible supporters, and his control of Argentina’s military.

One can imagine a similar process happening over time to Al-Sisi, should he be elected president. He, too, presides over a crazy quilt of political factions that are currently backing him, but which will, sooner or later, undoubtedly turn on each other. And, unless Al-Sisi tries to preside over both the military and the government simultaneously as a kind of all-powerful caudillo – a phenomenon common in Latin America and the Arab world, but now highly unpopular in both – the great likelihood is that the armed forces will eventually drift away from him. Perón, after all, was eventually overthrown by a military coup.

The analogy is undoubtedly badly flawed, and the differences between the two are clearly greater than the similarities. Yet there may be a real echo with some significant lessons.

Al-Sisi and his allies might look at the examples of how the Arab monarchies have dealt with growing public demands on their governments. Some Arab royals have so far successfully managed to rise “above the fray”, blaming popular grievances on the failings of executive authorities with direct responsibility, and frequently replacing a rotating group of cabinet ministers to demonstrate their responsiveness to public discontent.

The Egyptian military could potentially play a similar role: maintaining power and authority over its widely accepted sphere of influence, while avoiding the burden and dangers of direct political responsibility for the entire apparatus of governance. And, ideally, it could use this position to not only underscore social and political stability, but also to press for evolutionary change in Egypt over time, while leaving the details of daily governance to others.

A wise advisor might, at this crucial stage, be whispering in the Field Marshal’s ear that perhaps the burden of the highest office in the land ought be better left to someone like Mansour, his Prime Minister Hazem El-Beblawi, or any number of other plausible civilians, while it is in the best interests of both Al-Sisi personally and the military as a whole – for which he has become an icon and a synecdoche – and its current enviable position in Egyptian society, that he be content to remain defence minister and commander in chief.

But such wisdom in Egypt, and much of the rest of the Arab world these days, is often in disturbingly short supply.


Hussein Ibish is a Senior Fellow at the American Task Force on Palestine.

This article was originally published on Now.
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Dead end: about the coup in Egypt

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Article by the Wildcat collective on the background and current developments of class struggle in Egypt after the military coup in summer 2013 with additional focus on the situation of migrant workers in the Gulf states.

Dead End: About the Coup in Egypt
(translated from: wildcat, winter 2013/14: www.wildcat-www.de)


For two years, Tahrir Square was the symbol of a radical departure from social ossification and crisis. The military coup in the summer of 2013 ended this phase. The various illusions and hopes were buried with the hundreds that died. Essential parts of the liberal milieus have accepted state-led massacres and mass arrests in the name of 'defending democracy'. The hope of a state solution to social misery is also lost; the last heirs of Nasserism and trade union movement-hopefuls now sit at the military (side) table. Their vague promises of reform are drowned out by their appeals to peace, order and willingness to work.

In the acute social situation there is currently no room for participation. The movement will have to provide new questions about social revolution and organisation and will have to find new answers. To this end, migrants play an important role.

Egypt's ruling class

With the fall of President Morsi at the beginning of July 2013, the amalgamation of the state and military apparatus with the economy once again became visible. This form of class power emerged at the end of the Nasser era. In the mid-seventies, the military had lost its role as protectors of an 'anti-colonial' state industrialisation, and the bloated military apparatus afterwards found itself new fields of activity in the civil economy after the 1978 peace treaty with Israel. A new model of accumulation developed, particularly during the second, 'neoliberal' half of the 30-year long Mubarak regime, which was less based on industrialisation, and more on privatisation, the plundering of social wealth and on state-secured investments in infrastructure (transport, tourism, telecommunications). This model was enforced by a gigantic repressive apparatus, which was detached from any 'democratic control'. This apparatus included an informal army of baltagiyyas (thugs) and the military courts, which had been installed permanently since the state of emergency in 1981. The uprising in 2011 showed the crisis of this model.

It is still the case that most of the companies are small and medium-sized enterprises, but they are controlled by a very small layer of society through an old boys network, which means that we are dealing with monopolies. In 2010, around 500 families owned financial assets of more than 30 million USD, while 20 families (the 'core-elite') owned more than 100 million. The main economic focus of these groups of enterprises is on construction, telecommunications, tourism, food and pharmaceutical production, and (foreign) trade. At the very top stands the Sawiris family, which owns Egypt's largest construction company and rules over the telecommunications market and the media sector. In the 2000s this new economic elite took over the high command of political power directly; prime examples being Gamal Mubarak and the Nazif government, which came to power in 2004. Politically, they thereby entered into competition with the military apparatus, which manages the factories of the Nasser-ite epoch of industrialisation (consumption goods and arms manufacturing) and which, in addition, started to participate in the business of mass tourism since its boom in the 1990s. In total the military controls 5 to 15 per cent of the national economy.

The military played a significant role in the enforcement of this neoliberal looting because it has the right to confiscate land e.g. for the construction of infrastructure projects, tourist parks, and new industrial zones. This was the cohesive element between the military and the oligarchic elite. The top-layer of the Muslim Brotherhood, which mainly engaged in trade, were part of this arrangement, although, apart from a few exceptions, they were situated rather in the second or third tier. The military and civil top elite is partly Coptic (like the Sawiris) and in general rather secular.

The network of clientelism that was directed towards the masses was organised in 'religious' terms. After the privatisation in the 90s, the welfare system (benefits for the poor, education and health care) was split off into a completely deficient and corrupt public sector, an expensive private sector and a third sector comprising the various liberal, islamist and christian charities. The vast NGO sector is based on voluntary and informal labour and, in part, directly organises the informal economic sector.

First phase of the uprising: Hope for a democratic awakening

A long wave of workers' struggles in the old industrial sectors ('Mahalla') and the lower ranks of the public administration (for example the tax collectors) and in the informal transport sector (taxi and minibus drivers) proceeded the first uprising in January 2011. They were joined by people protesting against daily state violence. On the squares and in the streets, the various social struggles turned into a political struggle. Under the slogan 'The people want the fall of the regime', different social layers were united by their determination to change things. They focused on the symbols and figures of the Mubarak regime ('Mubarak, get lost!') and avoided a fundamental questioning of power. They tried to curb the power of the given institutions without abolishing them and replacing them with something new.

The police were forced to retreat from the militancy in the street, and the ruling power became more cautious. Initially the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces had to officially charge some figures of the elite, and during the climax of the unrest at the end of 2011, the property assets of 260 accused people were frozen. Only four people were actually convicted - the army helped practically all members of the business elite to escape and to transfer their property assets abroad.

People demanded the provision and 'fairer' distribution of housing by the state by occupying houses and storming town halls. Workers demanded the dismissal of corrupt managers, the withdrawal of privatisations, permanent contracts for workers who had been precariously employed for a long time and wage adjustments. In the public sector, struggles evolved around the demand for permanent contracts and the expansion of employment, given the disastrous condition of the education and health sectors. The struggles in the remains of the state-owned textile industry got a lot of public attention. A diminishing hard-core of workers defended themselves with great determination - but in the end these 'remnants' of a bygone epoch were not able to become crystallisation points for a new generation of workers. Political concepts from these old workers' ranks were demands for the revival of a Nasser-ite state economy: re-conversion of privatised companies into public property and state-planned industrial policies including agriculture, in order to provide raw material for the textile industry.

All these struggles took place parallel to each other, they didn't establish a consistent and practical relation between themselves; the relation was only established once they entered the streets. The manifold attempts to overcome given divisions in workplace struggles did not create organisational forms (e.g. such as 'councils' in previous cycles), which would have been able to withhold the counter-attacks. All in all, what was missing was a trajectory pointing beyond the state as a point of reference.

Representatives of the urban middle-class tried to use their ability to mobilise 'the masses' in the streets in order to fill this political vacuum and to become representatives of workers in the companies. With this lever they entered into a dialogue with the ruling class, wanting to obtain an appropriate chair at the table of power. Not only the liberals, but also the representatives of the political left kept an instrumental relationship to the workers' struggles: they aimed at administering them in order to be legitimised as (political) representatives. Their misconception of their own importance revealed itself at any of the turning points during which they failed to mobilise the workers for their own ends. The umbrella organisation of the 'independent trade unions' has remained a bureaucratic apparatus, largely without any influence on the real struggles.

The spokespeople of the movement decided quite quickly to secure their political influence within the institutions by participating in the elections, meaning by building new networks on the basis of political or organisational identities. In this regard, the 'islamists' were the quickest and the least ambiguous. The old leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood and of the various 'salafist' (conservative-sunni and traditionally apolitical) groups did not want this step into 'politics', the young activists forced them into it. The youth of the Muslim Brotherhood in particular was mobilised by the idea that they, as the only national mass organisation, would win the elections.1

The new political parties of the salafist spectrum were considerably smaller than the Brotherhood. But given the fact that they were the only political force demanding that basic food subsidies and energy should be kept in place, they could reach a part of the rural/small-town poor in the informal sector and in agriculture.

The left and the liberals both knew that they didn't have any social basis of mass support and so no chance of getting government posts. Accordingly, 'fast democracy' wasn't their goal - they wanted to buy some time and in the meantime to be a part of the power structure at the round tables of the military council.

With the increasing focus on 'democracy', organisational efforts of the movement fell apart. The local committees that had been set up in the days of the revolt disbanded or took over state tasks like the distribution of subsidised propane gas. After the liberalisation of the media, the leading big companies took over mass communication and by doing this, they managed to draw in well-trained and engaged people from the opposition. In addition, parties that were dependent on the big companies now presented themselves as forms of mass organisation.

During the parliamentary elections in the winter of 2011-12, the Freedom and Justice Party (FJP) of the Muslim Brotherhood won the elections with less than 4 million votes (with 30 million people having taken part in the elections out of a total of 80 million citizens!) and formed a majority government with other islamist parties. In the summer of 2012, their candidate, Morsi, won the presidential elections.

Second phase: social conflicts and identity politics

The business elite were not in favour of the take-over of political power by the FJP and the presidency of Morsi, but initially they arranged themselves within it. Their precondition for this arrangement was that the Muslim Brotherhood would be able to channel and control the protest movement. During the first few months, the new government was actually able to create a new hope, less amongst workers, but amongst a considerable share of the 'middle' and 'under classes', who had large expectations regarding investments of 'islamist' financial powers from Turkey and the gulf states, replacing the much hated IMF. Thousands of temporary jobs in the public sector were converted into permanent posts. Referring to the 'popular will', manifested in the election result, the government tried to eliminate some representatives of the old regime within the state institutions and, in this sense, to initiate a process of democratisation. But after only a short period of time, the new government failed on two decisive fronts.

Firstly, the protests on the streets and in the workplaces continued. The islamic model collapsed because people were not willing to accept a sell-out and bad working conditions just because the investors were 'islamic'. All attempts to enforce the reforms demanded by the international creditors, e.g. reforms of the subsidies for energy and basic food stuffs, immediately met with angry protests in the streets. This resulted in the drying up of credit money, without which the government was less and less able the keep the remaining industries running and inflation under control; state bankruptcy seemed imminent.

Secondly, the government was not able to assert itself against the representatives of the old regime who continued forming part of the high command of state power. Time and again the government announced legal persecution of corruption, but practically they did little to nothing. Nearly all criminal cases were withdrawn by the courts. The government announced the prosecution of crimes committed by the repressive apparatus, but they were helpless when only a few lower-rank police and army officers were sentenced. When the supreme court dissolved parliament in the 'silent coup' of summer 2012, it handed over nearly all legislative and executive authority to the army council - the president remained without institutional power.

The more the government distanced itself from the movement, the weaker its position was towards the representatives of the regime in the judiciary and administration. Finding themselves between a rock and a hard place, the Brotherhood tried to gain social backing by propagandistically emphasising religious identity - and thereby started a process which allowed parts of the liberal opposition to enter into an alliance with the social elite and the military against their 'islamisation'. The product of this alliance was the National Salvation Front (NSF), founded in November 2012. 2 At the end of November 2012, a tussle over a new constitution started. In the foreground of the conflict were formulations (which in the end were of secondary importance) regarding the 'islamist' character of the state and presidential authority. This superficial power struggle between 'conservative islamists' and 'enlightened liberals' covered up the actual social contradictions and relations of power. The fact that the FJP replaced some of Mubarak's people with their own cadres within the institutions, and the fact that Morsi tried to counteract the army council with presidential orders was interpreted as the beginning of an 'islamist dictatorship'. The fact that the Brotherhood tried to circumvent an unwilling administration by making use of their own structures was seen as a new form of clientelism. When, relating to the question of public order, the Brotherhood finally engaged in alliances with formerly militant groups like Gama' al-Islamiyya, they added more fuel to the fire.

During the first one and a half years after the January uprising, all powers opposed to the revolt were quasi self-evidently (and often simplistically) seen as henchmen of the system. Attacks on demonstrations or killings in the football stadium - it always seemed clear that the military or the oligarchs were behind it. By now, the increasing violence and brutalisation in daily life was seen either as part of a general tendency towards barbarisation or simply declared as an act committed by political opponents. The question of to what extent violence is also an expression of social contradictions is no longer asked. Where do the thugs who attack the demonstrations come from (socially)? Who organises the increasing assaults on women during demonstrations? With the introduction of the 'virginity test' in 2011 the military had semi-officially used attacks on women as a strategy against the rebellion. After public outcries against this measure, does the military now continue this strategy in different forms? Are the perpetrators 'islamists' (despite the fact that there are many sources reporting that many veiled women became targets of rapes)? Or does the 'normal' patriarchal violence in society escalate?

When it comes to (self-)perception of the people in struggle, it is not about a struggle of 'those below against those on top' anymore, but about identities. The insurgents in Port Said in early 2013 saw themselves as 'neglected Port Saidis', resisting marginalisation through the 'arrogant elite in Cairo'. It wasn't the first time that the state apparatus of repression was clever enough to move out of the line of fire by limiting itself to securing state buildings. In December 2012 this demonstrative absence of the police made the nationwide destruction of FJP offices possible, during whose defence numerous members of the Brotherhood got killed.3

Despite this escalation in the political sphere, we saw an increase in the development of social struggles in the first half of 2013. The constantly rising strike wave had two tendencies: on the one hand, struggles about 'particular interests' of different sections of workers, on the other hand, modest efforts to coordinate struggles in different companies. There was a nationwide strike in the (public) energy corporation and a strike wave at the airports. Workers in Port Said supported the strike in a cement factory in Alexandria after striking workers had been attacked by the police. The police and the army attacked these struggles with increasing intensity. A growing number of businessmen withdrew their money and brought it abroad, trying to escape the general situation of uncertainty and unrest. Finally, parts of the state apparatus reacted to this scenario by being increasingly obstructive, which led to serious lacks in the supply of energy and to exploding food prices.

Third phase: The coup and the aftermath

The ruling class cunningly portrayed Morsi's and the Brotherhood's incompetence as the sole reason for the worsening social problems. The signature campaign for Morsi's resignation called 'Tamarod', which had been started in May 2013, combined diffuse accusations against him with an aggressive nationalist rhetoric. The campaign only developed any significant strength once it was joined by nearly the entire political left and the liberal camp - they joined the campaign despite its differing political trajectory and despite the fact that it was financed by the oligarchs and backed-up by the private and public mass media. The two independent trade union federations even provided the campaign with their organisational infrastructure.4

The demonstration on the 30th June in Cairo against Morsi was inflated in the media, which described it as the 'biggest political demonstration in human history' with 35 million people participating. Those are certainly pure fantasy figures. More realistic estimates are that 500,000 people at most demonstrated against Morsi in Cairo; in parallel, just as big demonstrations took place in Morsi's favour. In the run-up, the state apparatus had practically already given the green light to destroy the Muslim Brotherhood's offices, which, in the course of July happened under the gaze of the police.

Against this backdrop, the military coup could be passed off as legitimated by 'the people', at the very least to prevent a civil war. Primarily, it wasn't a coup against the Muslim Brothers or Islam, rather it was against the social movements. Mass shootings at the demonstrations at the end of July and the protests in August, snipers against demonstrators, the mass arrests and the murder of prisoners posed a general threat against anyone 'taking to the street'. Those Liberals who were lining up behind the military and were calling for unconditional order in the country, were quite open about the fact that the repression was actually about quelling any unrest. Meanwhile, a few people from the campaign realised that if you play with the devil, in most cases you'll get your fingers burned.

The picture has changed from the first big protests that were dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood and the demand for the reinstatement of Morsi. In the face of repression, the demonstrations have become smaller. They were, on the whole, successfully banned for some time in the capital but on a national scale they take place on a daily basis across the country. The slogans are diverse. It seems that things are also being re-shuffled on the 'islamists' side of the political spectrum. It's not about Morsi's reinstatement anymore, but instead, their protests are targeting the military regime and looking for connections with social struggles. This is surely not just a tactical manoeuvre by the Brotherhood; it is in general questionable as to what extent they're able to lead the protests after their infrastructure has been destroyed. Furthermore, people who've got nothing to do with the Brotherhood are increasingly participating e.g. the ultras.

What is the position of the 'labour movement' in this constellation? A part of the 'left wing unionists' have, in the figure of the new labour minister, Abu Eita, sealed the 'marriage' with the military state.5 This alliance is based on the unrealistic promise of 'modernisation' and industrialisation. It's clear that no industrial sector is able to integrate workers on a mass scale. In contrast to other countries like Vietnam, the working class in Egypt is largely (small) town folk and those that live in the rural areas don't own any means of subsistence to compensate for the very low wages. The modernisation of the textile industry - which in any case is in free fall decline - would make several thousand more people redundant. Therefore, the trade unionists will first of all have to co-manage the closures of the rest of the public industries and take care of the entitlements of those people that have been made redundant. The government has announced mass redundancies, which they plan to administer in a socially 'responsible' way (severance payments etc.), financed by state funds. In future, (peaceful) strikes are supposed to be allowed, but only where it doesn't hurt the economy. At the same time, the government is relying on populist concessions to the public sector for which they have announced a minimum wage. Here we see the contradictory character of the minimum wage, which the left has agitated for for years. The minimum wage is only for state employees, not for people working in the private sector. The wage amount now is based on an old figure meaning that it is way too low, particularly for the numerous part-time workers. The minimum wage is calculated on the basis of the total 'income' rather than the basic working wage, meaning that the minimum wage will include all types of bonuses and social benefits, which up to now has comprised 70-80% of the total income. So for many, the introduction of the minimum wage will result in a lowering of income.

All governments since 2011 have addressed the widespread hope of the population, that the state will alleviate the unemployment problem and provide basic benefits. Public sector wages have doubled in the last five years and the number of employees clearly rose (even though in many cases temporarily and numbers slower than the increase in population). A further expansion of the largely inefficient public administration comes up against financial limits.

It will take time for all sections of the population to realise what the government programme actually consists of and how small the room to manoeuvre is.

In the short-term, the millions of dollars from the Gulf states will help the state to win some time. This will only postpone the problem and ultimately make it worse given the fact that these millions are not gifts but loans, whose conditions are not made public. The regime prepares itself for further unrest. All institutions of Mubarak's police state are back in place. After the lifting of the state of emergency, a future government will have hardly any influence. It is very important that the movement against the coup (contrary to the official propaganda) has managed, despite all of the repression, to rip apart the dubious legitimacy of military rule through their continuous daily mobilisations that have lasted over the past few months. While in the summer there was still much pondering amongst the left about linguistic creations like 'coup-volution' or 'recoup', today it's clear that the unity of the 'people's will' and military rule is imaginary and does not exist. Neither does the assumed subordination of the military to 'the people' - an illusion that is the product of a fatal over-estimation of one's own power. And there's no scope for reformism. All previous strategies have been exhausted. Egypt and its' more than 80 million inhabitants is too big to be 'sustained' by global capital for political reasons. At the same time, the country is too significant to allow it to fail. This international backing means that the intensified neoliberal authoritarianism won't be smashed by demonstrations alone. This dilemma reveals itself as much in the failings of 'moderate islam' as in the moral bankruptcy of the traditional ('left' or social democratic) Nasserism, being as it is, a shareholder of the current military dictatorship.

In this drastic period and space of crisis, the working class faces gigantic challenges. What will shape future workers' struggles? Mahalla and other former strongholds will certainly not be at the centre of struggles anymore, even though there and in other public industrial enterprises, struggles will take place. Finally, will the movements in the region be able to consciously and practically relate to each other? In this regard, migrants will play an important role. Mass immigration, which is a new experience in Egypt's recent history, can give new impulses for the resistance movement.

Migrants

Since the 1960s, labour migration has closely linked societies in the Arabic region and the Middle-East to the affluent oil-producing countries (Persian Gulf and Libya) and to the trade metropolis of the eastern Mediterranean. Any crisis and any war in this region caused huge waves of migration. The expulsion of migrant populations was not 'collateral damage' of foreign political conflicts, but formed a central element of the war of the ruling class(es) against the migrant labour force. The persistence of this order is based on a seemingly feudalistic division between a local upper-class and a foreign under-class.

In wildcat no.92 ("Natural born Gulfers…") in spring 2012, we raised the question of whether a new class composition is emerging within the new movements ("Arab Spring"), which is able to overcome these divisions. We saw starting points of this re-composition in the numerous strikes of migrant workers in the construction sector, sporadic strikes in the new industrial zones and in the struggles for citizen rights of those migrants who live permanently in the gulf states. So far the different concepts of counterattacks against such a possible class re-composition are represented by Qatar on one side and Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the Emirates on the other.

Qatar is an immensely rich small-scale state, which seems relatively safe vis-a-vis internal unrest. In 2011, in alliance with Turkey, Qatar drove forward the militarisation of the uprising in Libya, in order to bring a new 'national' elite to power under the banner of 'democracy' and to minimise the potential for wider social unrest. One after the other, these attempts to install stable governments failed for various reasons in all countries affected by the unrest, from Libya to Egypt to Syria. As a consequence, the emir of Qatar had to resign in June 2013; in June, as well, the Muslim Brotherhood lost ground in Syria, when Ghassan Hittos was replaced by the Saudi representative Ahmed Assi Dsharba as the leader of the interim government of the Syrian National Coalition; and finally Morsi was removed by the military, which is backed by Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia as the poorest (relative to number of population) and most populated country in the Persian Gulf has had to deal with the growing unrest of migrant workers, but increasingly also with a discontented local workforce. Saudi Arabia, too, had intervened massively in the uprisings in the region - exclusively by means of repression and war. The instigation of religious animosity is an essential element of Saudi Arabia's state politics, as much externally against the 'shia half-moon' from Iran to Lebanon, as internally, against the 'fifth column of Iran' in the unrestful Shia region Ash-Sharqiyya in the east of Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia smashed the uprising in Bahrain with tanks and supported reactionary militias from Iraq to Syria, whose sole aim is to create confessional divisions and to engage the country in year-long civil wars. In this way Saudi Arabia built a 'Cordon Malaise' around its borders - security through destruction.6

What followed was a further escalation of the war in Syria and Iraq and an intensified internal repression against the political opposition and the struggles of migrants.

This also had an immediate impact on the situation of migrants from Egypt. Since the 1970s Egypt has formed an important labour pool for the region; in 2009 approximately 4.5 million workers from Egypt worked abroad, out of which 2 million were in Libya and 1.3 million in Saudi Arabia, the rest in Kuwait and Jordan. During the civil war in Libya, around 150,000 migrant workers from Egypt flew back to their country of origin. In Saudi Arabia they were frequently threatened with collective deportation - in particular during times when the revolt 'at home' led to a stronger self-confidence of the migrant workers, which expressed itself in a series of strikes in Saudi Arabia. Since the coup in Egypt, 300,000 Egyptian workers were thrown out of the country - a further 700,000 are supposed to follow in the coming months. Migrant workers' remittances have shrunk to a sixth of the amount in 2010. After changes to the visa regulations in Jordan (the main country of destination for unskilled agricultural workers), workers from Egypt were pushed into an irregular status and now have to compete on the labour market with thousands of Syrian refugees. Egypt itself became a destination or transit country for a lot of refugees from Libya, Iraq, Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea, Ethiopia etc.. By now around 300,000 refugees from Syria live in Egypt. The new military government instigates severe animosity towards the refugees and tries to prevent their arrival or deport them.

Migrant unrest in Saudi Arabia

The most recent intensification of war against migrants in Saudi Arabia leaves seemingly little space for optimism: facing brutal state violence, the people being attacked have little resources to defend themselves. Nevertheless we think that there are tendencies becoming visible which might help to overcome the status quo:

The experiences of migrants become more homogeneous; there are less and less 'special conditions' of single groups of workers, e.g. of workers of Arab origin in contrast to workers from South Asia; struggles often target their own governments, also in the countries of origin of the migrant workers;

A lot of migrant workers cannot easily be intimidated anymore, in fact, in many sectors, even during waves of repression, workers were able to enforce wage increases, either through collective strikes or individually;

The governments are forced also to attack and to discipline the lower segments of their 'own' population. Up to now the Saudi government hasn't managed to get the Saudi youth to work, at least not under similar conditions to the migrant workforce. For the first time in history the state now simulates a state of emergency outside of a (external) war situation.


At the end of March 2012, a new labour law came into effect, which is supposed to get Saudi citizens into jobs that have previously been done by foreign workers. Nearly 90 per cent of workers in the private sector are migrants, while in the public sector 90 per cent Saudis are employed. The program dictates a certain quota of employment of Saudi citizens to the employers - if they don't stick to this quota they're supposed to pay penalty fines. In order to enforce this, the labour administration was given the status of a quasi police authority: they can erect street blockades and launch raids. The government has prepared the way for this law by increasing repression against illegal migrants - partly against people who have lived in the country for years or were even born there. Many of them come from Yemen or from east Africa, others have fled from their Saudi 'contractor' (legal guarantor) and have looked for other employment in the informal sector. As early as 2012, 800,000 illegal migrants were officially deported, a further 200,000 during the first three months of 2013 alone. Despite this, the law initially failed due to the resistance of the migrants and its implementation was postponed. On 4th of November 2013 the last notice for the migrants ran out.

Resistance

The majority of migrants depend on a so-called guarantor, who employs them, organises their visa and often retains their passport. Due to the quota regulation and the fact that migrants are not allowed to change their employer, a lot of regular migrant workers have become illegalised. They can only 'legalise' themselves through their employer. Due to the quota regulation many companies were not able to get new work permissions for their migrant employees; and many companies did not want to procure them, but rather forced workers into an illegal status, which allowed them not to pay them wages for months, given the pending threat of deportation.

The wave of repression had drastic economic consequences: businesses had to close down, in the port of Jeddah only 200 of usually 1,000 workers turned up for work, schools had to shut down etc.. At the same time tens of thousands of migrant workers travelled to Jeddah and Riyadh in order to demand money and papers from their respective embassies for their return. Thousands of workers camped publicly in front of the embassies, for example 2,000 workers from the Philippines. First, protest demonstrations took place. In May 2013 around 2,000 workers from Egypt stormed their embassy. In addition protests in the countries of origin erupted: in Yemen the Saudi embassy was the target of week-long protests, similar actions took place in the Philippines and in Egypt.

This is why the enactment of the law was postponed to November. In the meantime nearly 4 million workers were able to 'legalise' themselves in Saudi Arabia, while one million workers left the country. After the 4th of November in Mecca alone 20,000 people were arrested. There are no figures for the number of people arrested at a national level. The authorities set up checkpoints on the streets, companies were raided, whole parts of town encircled by the administration personnel - mainly the slums where a lot of African workers live. The results were predictable and similar to those in the Spring: half of all construction companies had to stop operations, truck-transport collapsed, in some areas food-supply was at risk, essential public services like rubbish collection and schools became dysfunctional.

The resistance of the migrant workers attained a new quality. In April the focus had been on embassies of the home countries but after November strikes were organised targeting Saudi companies. In Mecca and Jeddah thousands of workers working in refuse collection and hospital cleaning went on strike for several days and had violent confrontations with the police. On an airport construction site 400 foreign technicians and engineers went on strike. In the course of the dispute, cars were destroyed and offices attacked.

There were riots in various towns, around 50 people died and hundreds were arrested. The trigger was the general attack on people from Africa, which was partly launched by the police, partly by Saudi youth (and other reports mention Pakistani youth) who hunted down people with darker skin in order to hand them over to the police. This might reveal one of the deeper reasons for the state to introduce the new law. The state had prepared the pogroms by public punishments of foreign 'troublemakers', by executions of 'witches' and absurd measures like a 'homosexuality test' for entering migrant workers.

The official aim is the complete 'Saudi-isation' of the labour market, which is unrealistic. There is a lack of qualified labour, so a lot of posts cannot be filled with local workers. More importantly, the state would have to destroy the expectations of a whole generation not to have to engage in manual labour and to get complete social security guaranteed by the state. Therefore the Saudi state channels the increasing discontent amongst the local population towards the 'foreigners', criminalises the latter and subjects them to the arbitrary rule of their employers and the violence of a guided mob.

But only the proletarianisation of the Saudi population will solve the problem of the state in the long run. This is difficult to achieve without causing a fundamental state crisis and the complete loss of legitimacy of the royal family. Once the Saudis fail to solve its 'migrant workers question' the fundament of a house of cards might collapse and would finally open a new perspective for the movements in the whole of the Middle East.

Afterword from February 2014

Since the beginning of December, developments of the issues raised in the article have intensified and accelerated: the regime had reached a 'point of no return' above all with the massacre at Rabi'a al-Adawiyya square - state repression increasingly captures the entire political and social opposition and aims at a complete restoration of the police-state. Astoundingly, state repression has, up until now, missed its goal: neither has a deathly silence occurred in Egypt, nor has the country (despite some attacks directed against the security forces) slipped into civil war.

By mid-November over 2600 people were killed according to the 'revolution-wiki' (Thawra-Wiki), which is put online by various human rights groups. Lawyers with close links to the Muslim Brotherhood say it's over 7000. More than 21,000 people have been locked up (those are the ones whose arrest was registered by lawyers or NGOs), amongst which 3000 are members of the Muslim Brotherhood. The overwhelming majority (over 16,000) were arrested on the street at demonstrations.

We underestimated the massive attack on the social infrastructure of the revolt and the attempt either to bring it under control or to destroy it. Across political and religious orientations there was a lot of support for the protests from the organised social sector of various religious and secular foundations and NGOs. Symbolic examples for this support are e.g. field hospitals that were set up at all street protests. Also in other social spheres such NGOs provide legal support, publicity and information etc. The deal between state and the non-governmental institutions, which had been maintained since the mid-1970s, to leave the 'welfare for the poor' to the mainly religious charities, which, in exchange, feel responsible to secure social peace, started to erode from within these institutions.

The secular NGOs were attacked by the state, e.g. the raid of the Egyptian Centre for Economic and Social Rights (ECESR) on 19th of December 2013, which had been important particularly for the 'labour movement'. People were arrested and parts of the office destroyed. On 23rd of December the bank accounts of over 1,000 NGOs were frozen by state decree. This affected mainly those NGOs close to the Brotherhood, but also those of the Salafist charity Gamiyya Shariyya and Ansar al-Sunna al-Muhammadiyya; all three together form the back-bone of the islamic welfare sector. The goal won't be the complete destruction of these welfare organisations, given that the state would not be able (financially, organisationally) to replace them. But the people working there and those dependent on these organisations are supposed to subject themselves to state control. The islamist leadership actually intend to come to an agreement with the military government and to submit themselves to their power.

Apart from the political repression against any opposition it was this state attack on the welfare organisations, which mobilised many people to take the streets, people who previously had nothing to do with the Brotherhood or were even opposed to it. From September 2013 onwards the first protests of Brotherhood-dominated student unions started at the universities (mainly the Azhar-University in Cairo, it is chiefly the central university for islamic theology and islamic law). The harsh reaction of the state only resulted in an expansion of the protests. In November twelve students were convicted in a fast-trial and sentenced to 17 years in prison for allegedly having taken part in the storming of the Azhar administration building in November.

In this context the police returned to campuses, from which they had been demobilised by governmental decree in 2011. When a first student died during protests on campus the situation escalated further. The students would not let themselves be intimidated; instead protests also started at the universities in the provinces. The whole engineering department of the university in Zagazig went on strike for a week to demand the release of arrested students from different political organisations and against the police and state-sponsored thugs on university premises. According to Democracy Index (a local NGO, which publishes statistics on protests and demonstrations) a quarter of the 611(!) student protests between September and the beginning of November 2013 were about 'internal university' issues, such as canteen food and hostel accommodation, meaning that the social demands did not completely disappear under the blanket of repression.

With the enactment of an extremely restrictive 'protest law' at the end of November, the military regime took on further (liberal) groups of the opposition. They've now also arrested 'media icons' of the revolt, such as Achmed Maher, the spokesperson of the April 6 Youth and put them into jail. Way too late, but now very clearly the April 6 Youth admit their mistake of having participated in the identitarian polarisation in Egypt and now position themselves against the coup. For the first time they called for a protest against the military, parallel to a protest of groups close to the Brotherhood, on 25th of January 2014.

Breaking through the political polarisation, which is based on religious identities, is only possible through collective struggle - it's an important and hopeful sign that this now seems possible again. Perhaps more significant than the relatively small liberal milieu (by now less than a hundred people turn up to their rallies), are the large numbers of Ultra groups. These were originally deeply divided on the question of the military coup; many had first supported (state) operations against the Muslim Brotherhood. Lots of others came out of the same milieu as a section of the 'Young Brotherhood'. In the course of November, more and more took part in the street protests against the Junta or carried out their own protests, with the football stadiums going back to becoming places of clashes with the police.

On the side of the people who actually oppose state violence in the name of the Brotherhood, there are, according to some observers, many that don't identify with the conservative ideology of the Brotherhood. In the foreground was the fact that they offered social assistance in particular for working class women. It provides employment and welfare that the state unsatisfactorily can't or won't offer. To thematise and realise these concrete social demands and needs as such, to emancipate them from the state as well as organisations like the Muslim Brotherhood, would go beyond the current focus on direct state violence.

The current movement, whilst relying even less on charismatic or media representatives than in previous times, mobilises itself around 'martyrs.' Originally the four-finger logo was used by the Muslim Brotherhood in their professionally organised campaign to strengthen the determination of their members during their mass sit-ins. After the massacre the logo changed and become a symbol of the hundreds who died in Rabi'a al-Adawiyya square (named after the medieval Sufi scholar "Rabi'a," the Fourth). Other 'martyrs' include: Mohamed Reda, who was the first person killed in the student protests; a 21-year-old young women from Alexandria who was convicted and sentenced to a long prison term for taking part in a road blockade; Bassem Mohsen, a young factory worker from Suez who was shot on the 20th December, and many more.7

The movement has hardly any goals outside of being a struggle against the state apparatus. Apart from those reasons set out in the article, it also has few opportunities to develop working class 'economic power'. The number of strikes has gone down drastically, economy-wise the country continues to collapse. But it has seemingly learned a lot from other historical and contemporary examples (e.g. Latin America, notably but surely Syria) and avoids many traps. Perhaps their biggest merit at the moment is the fact that it has undermined the efforts of the ruling class to ignite a civil war. The fact that the movement has, so far, managed to avoid bigger communal conflicts is the main reason why it is able to maintain such an extreme tenacity despite all the blows and the excessive power of the enemy.

The sole reason behind the referendum on the new constitution in mid-January was to legitimise the military government, therefore election participation was the only significant indicator. Official statistics put participation at slightly under 40 per cent. That is a clear sign. The regime has to admit that only 40 per cent of all voters and only 16 per cent of 20-30 year olds took part in this 'historic' election - even though ten thousand soldiers were deployed in front of the polling stations; despite the fact that everyone who called for a boycott of the election or a no-vote were arrested; even though there was no 'independent' monitoring of the election and the votes were counted in the barracks. Internally the legitimacy of the government is lost - now mainly external legitimacy is crucial for the military regime, from international donors and arms suppliers: US military aid will start flowing again from January, the IMF is satisfied, the EU will go back to granting licenses for the export of police equipment...

Pronouncements by the Military Council that all those who take to the streets, "are Muslim Brothers," is wrong. The fact that most of the media here simply regurgitates this, is pathetic. But you have to ask those people who actually go out on the streets in the name of the Brotherhood what their motivation is, rather than just keep on declaring that the spectre of "Islamism" is alive.

Footnotes:

[1] It is quite telling that the faction known as 'left-wing', split from the Muslim Brotherhood early on. This happened after its most prominent representative Aboul Fotouh was expelled from the Brotherhood in mid-June 2011, due to the fact that he wanted to stand as a candidate in the presidential elections. He formed the party 'Strong Egypt'.

[2] The NSF was lead by the social-democratic Nasserists Sabahi and Mubarak's ex-foreign minister Amr Mussa and it also included the April 6 Youth and the Revolutionary Socialists. The essential integrating figure was Al Baradai, he was a top-diplomat under Nasser and Sadat and later general director of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

[3] On the 24th of January 2013 the 'Black Bloc' presented themselves for the first time publicly as a militant arm of the movement against the imminent 'dictatorship of Islam'. Some of them who were arrested as members belonged to the Ultra scene. But who actually stands behind it and how serious we should take their appropriation of the symbol of a global protest movement (the black bloc) is difficult to tell given the absence of a 'libertarian milieu'. With the fall of Morsi the black bloc 'officially' disbanded.

[4] The spokesperson of the Tamarod campaign was the relatively unknown young journalist Mahmoud Badr, a campaign organiser of the Kefaya electoral alliance in 2006. He was also close to Al Baradai. On the institutional level Tamarod was supported by organisations of the National Salvation Front and mainly financed by the oligarch Naguib Sawiris.

[5] Abu Eita is a prominent co-founder the trade union of lower rank administration employees, which emerged out of wildcat strikes. He is a symbolic figure of the independent trade union movement. He is a member of the Nasserist Karama Party; ironically he won his parliamentary seat in the 2011/12 election from the FJP candidate list.

[6] Originally the Cordon Sanitaire was a term of the health police: the installation of an isolating belt around an epidemic area. Later on the term was politicised and referred to the creation of dependent buffer-states between different centres of power. The word 'Malaise' is supposed to emphasise the purely destructive policy of the Saudi state.

[7] Bassem Mohsen was part of one of the first groups of activists in Suez, who then went to Tahrir Square. In the autumn he was shot (like many other people) in the eye. Later, he disappeared in jail, was then pardoned by Morsi and at the end of 2012 - because he wanted to continue to protest against the military - clashed with Muslim Brothers and beaten up. He joined the Tamarod campaign, then he demonstrated with the Muslim Brothers against the military after the massacres in December and was then shot dead on the 20th December. (There is an obituary in German in the Journal of Resistance ['Recherchejournal zum Aufstand']
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Re: Egypt - Return of the deep state

Postby AlicetheKurious » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:52 pm

More bull from RI's king of copy-and-paste. Obviously, I can't afford to waste huge amounts of time and effort refuting each lie and distortion in a long article that took AD less than five minutes to post. I'll just take this paragraph as one representative example:

American Dream wrote:The sole reason behind the referendum on the new constitution in mid-January was to legitimise the military government, therefore election participation was the only significant indicator. Official statistics put participation at slightly under 40 per cent. That is a clear sign. The regime has to admit that only 40 per cent of all voters and only 16 per cent of 20-30 year olds took part in this 'historic' election - even though ten thousand soldiers were deployed in front of the polling stations; despite the fact that everyone who called for a boycott of the election or a no-vote were arrested; even though there was no 'independent' monitoring of the election and the votes were counted in the barracks.


Actually, 38.5 percent of eligible voters participated. That may not seem like much, but it is the highest rate in Egypt's history, something worth noting (one would think). Around 59% of those who voted were between the ages of 18 and 40. Such a relatively high turnout was especially surprising in view of the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood and its allies had been escalating their terrorist attacks in the lead-up to the referendum, with bombs placed in front of schools, on public buses and on bridges, among others, in a campaign to terrorize people into staying home and not voting in the referendum. On the morning of the referendum itself, we awoke to the news that a bomb had exploded in front of Cairo's court house (it also caused extensive damage to the nearby Islamic Museum, destroying priceless and irreplaceable artifacts):



And STILL people turned out -- including women, elderly, handicapped, as well as young men. They turned out first because this is their constitution, written by and for them. Secondly, they came out to express their defiance of the Muslim Brotherhood's campaign to terrorize them, and to express their faith in the army and police, who had solemnly promised to guarantee their security as they voted, a promise which was fulfilled (in fact, the army deployed an estimated 100,000 soldiers to secure the polling stations, not 10,000 as this sloppy writer claims). This, even though gunmen tried unsuccessfully to shoot their way into a polling station in Giza. Otherwise, the Muslim Brotherhood had to resort to torching cars and a police station instead of direct attacks against voters.

Furthermore, the Muslim Brothers' efforts to prevent Egyptians from voting were not limited to Egypt. Hours before Egyptians living in France were supposed to start voting in the constitutional referendum at the Egyptian consulate in Paris, a group of Muslim Brothers entered the consulate, then announced their demand that Morsy be reinstated. When the staff there told them that the consulate could do nothing for them, they revealed their true intention: to occupy and lock down the consulate to prevent Egyptians from voting. The Paris police were called in to unlock the consulate doors and ordered them to leave the premises. They refused, and when the police tried to force them to leave, they began to trash the consulate and attack the police (5 police officers were injured and several of the Brothers were arrested):



Incidentally, at one point, in Arabic, the French police are called "infidels"... I found that kind of funny, but that's the Muslim Brotherhood for you.

You'd think that all of this -- bombings, armed attacks against polling stations, and the attempt to force a shut-down of the consulate, all to prevent Egyptians from voting, would be worthy of comment. Guess not, if your agenda is to distort the truth beyond recognition.

Also, it's an absolute lie that "everyone who called for a boycott of the election or a no-vote were arrested" -- one of the most prominent of them, former presidential candidate and "ex"-Muslim Brother Abdel-Moneim Aboul-Fotouh, head of his own Islamist party, called a press conference a few days before the referendum to spout his usual lies and to call for a boycott of the referendum, just as he's now calling for a boycott of the upcoming presidential elections. He and his minions may be contemptible, but as long as they don't commit any crimes, they remain as free as birds. Similarly, the "Revolutionary Socialists" and the Salafist "Watan" party also called for a boycott, as have "April 6" and their allies. (Those 3 members of April 6 who were arrested, are charged with breaking the law after they called a press conference to announce that they were going to break the law, then proceeded to do exactly that, in front of a lot of tv cameras).

The author lies yet again when he claims that "there was no 'independent' monitoring of the election", meaning the referendum: the referendum was monitored by dozens of Egyptian civil society NGOs, the EU, and independent election monitors from around the world, including the US:



Finally, the last lie in that one among all too many paragraphs filled with lies and malicious distortions, the votes were counted by Egyptian judges inside the polling stations themselves, under the supervision of the domestic and international monitors. It was precisely BECAUSE there was no tampering or rigging of the results, that the Americans and their British counterparts were forced to resort to mealy-mouthed and rather snide comments that the "climate" was not conducive to "democracy", while ignoring the fact that it was their allies, the terrorists, who were trying to prevent voters from freely expressing their will, not the other way around.
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Re: Egypt - Return of the deep state

Postby Sounder » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:48 am

Thank-you so much Alice for doing us the community service, oh fuck it, of showing once again how much of a fool AD is.
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Postby 8bitagent » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:13 am

fuck egypt. The media will hype up the 2011 Arab spring, but refuses to talk about all the sexual assaults against women at Tahir square and elsewhere, institutionalized FGM, and oppression against LGBT groups.

What is the point of male led revolution if they still act like tyrants against women?
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Re: Egypt - Return of the deep state

Postby Sounder » Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:58 am

fuck egypt


Really, and all the people too?

How about fuck MSM, because they do nothing but mold your sorry ass reactive mind?

Hey, maybe the protection of women could be handled by the Muslim Brotherhood, I hear that they are very committed folk.

Or how about fuck the presstitutes because their sponsors know that as long as the volume of bullshit to truth ratio is over about ten to one, then the weak willed ninnies who fear nothing more than social rejection can be manipulated until hell freezes over.
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Postby Zombie Glenn Beck » Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:30 pm

8bitagent » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:13 am wrote:fuck egypt. The media will hype up the 2011 Arab spring, but refuses to talk about all the sexual assaults against women at Tahir square and elsewhere, institutionalized FGM, and oppression against LGBT groups.

What is the point of male led revolution if they still act like tyrants against women?


Baby steps. You cant expect an reactionary military dictatorship to become a neo-liberal post-patriarchial utopia in one go.
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