Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:16 am

well Madsen right on this one...haven't posted Wayne in a long time

Meet Neocon “Doughnut Dolly” Victoria Nuland
Wayne MADSEN | 18.12.2013 | 00:00


During America’s many overseas wars, volunteer women of the United Services Organization (USO), a group designed to boost the morale of U.S. troops in combat zones, served coffee and doughnuts to American soldiers. These women, called “doughnut dollies,” were on the scene in the South Pacific, Korea, and Vietnam.

The U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, Victoria Nuland, has reprised the role of the “Doughnut Dolly” by distributing snacks to anti-government protesters on Maidan square in central Kyiv. Armed with a white plastic shopping bag full of biscuits, Nuland was trying to boost the morale of the protesters in what has become a virtual proxy war between the United States and Russia. Control of Ukraine by NATO has long been a gleam in the eye of American neo-conservative war hawks like Arizona Republican Senator John McCain who followed Nuland by a day among the Maidan protesters.

Following the election of Barack Obama to the presidency in 2008, many Americans believed that the age of the neo-cons was over. Neo-cons, nostalgic for the Cold War, put their own imprimatur on the George W. Bush presidency by having it adopt all the principles of neocon policy dogma, most notably a document known as the Project for the New American Century or “PNAC.” With fresh policy guidance from within the neo-con policymaking lairs of the American Enterprise Institute, Heritage Foundation, Hudson Institute, and the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, neocons like Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Scooter Libby, and Robert Kagan set about to plunge the United States into senseless wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and beyond in a never-ending “global war on terrorism.”

Kagan, although not as well-known as the others, continues to steer America into foreign policy fiascos such as U.S. involvement in the domestic affairs of Ukraine. Kagan has an ace-in-the-hole in stirring up tensions in Ukraine because his wife is none other than Victoria Nuland…

Nuland’s career has been one of ensuring that the underpinnings of the Cold War never completely died out in Europe. Her State Department career began as the chief of staff to President Bill Clinton’s Deputy Secretary of State and close friend, Strobe Talbott. It was under Talbott that Nuland helped completely fracture Yugoslavia and ensured that the U.S. slanted against the interests of Russia’s ally, Serbia. After helping to lord over the final end of Yugoslavia, Nuland moved to develop U.S. foreign policy for the former Soviet Union. Ukraine landed right in the middle of Nuland’s target scope.

After the Clinton administration, Nuland went on to become Vice President Dick Cheney’s principal foreign policy adviser. Impressed with her anti-Russian and neo-con stance, Cheney recommended Nuland to be the U.S. ambassador to NATO. After the Bush administration, Nuland ensured that the neo-con apparatchiks continued to have a say in the new president’s foreign policy. Nuland was appointed as the special envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe in a further bid to confront Russia. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton appointed Nuland as her press spokesman after Philip J. Crowley was forced to resign after he publicly complained about the military prison treatment of Army Private Bradley Manning, arrested and jailed for releasing classified State Department cables to WikiLeaks. Nuland, unlike Crowley, would ensure that neo-con swagger would dominate Mrs. Clinton’s State Department. That swagger became abundantly clear in the CIA’s coup against President Manuel Zelaya in Honduras, the U.S.-led overthrow of Muammar Qaddafi in Libya, and U.S. support for uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia.

Nuland would survive the controversy over the October 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission/CIA facility in Benghazi, Libya. Initially, many conservative Republicans criticized Nuland for her role in providing ambassador to the UN Susan Rice with “talking points” explaining away the failure of the U.S. to protect the compound from an attack that killed U.S. ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other U.S. personnel. All it took was a tap on the shoulder from Nuland’s husband Kagan and his influential friends in the neo-con hierarchy for the criticism of his wife to stop. And stop it did as Nuland was confirmed, without Republican opposition, to be the new Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, a portfolio that gave her a clear mandate to interfere in the domestic policies of Ukraine and other countries, including Russia itself.

Kagan began laying the groundwork for his wife’s continued presence in a Democratic administration when, in 2007, he switched sides from the Republicans and aligned with the Democrats. This was in the waning days of the Bush administration and, true to form, neo-cons, who politically and family-wise hail from Trotskyite chameleons, saw the opportunity to continue their influence over U.S. foreign policy.

With the election of Obama in 2008, Kagan was able to maintain a PNAC presence, through his wife, inside the State Department. Kagan, a co-founder of PNAC, monitors his wife’s activities from his perch at the influential Brookings Institution. And it was no surprise that McCain followed Nuland to Maidan Square. Kagan was one of McCain’s top foreign policy advisers in the 2008 campaign, even though he publicly switched to the Democrats the year before. Kagan ensured that he kept a foot in both parties. Although McCain was defeated by Obama in 2008, Kagan’s influence was preserved when his wife became a top foreign policy adviser to Obama. The root of this control by neo-cons of the two major U.S. political parties is the powerful Israel Lobby and is the reason why in excess of 95 percent of neo-cons are also committed Zionists.

Kagan’s writings and pronouncements from Brookings have had a common thread: anti-Vladimir Putin rhetoric and a strong desire to see Ukraine and Georgia in NATO, Bashar al Assad falling in Syria and thus eliminating a Russian ally, no further expansion of Shanghai Cooperation Organization membership and the eventual collapse of the counter-NATO organization, and the destabilization of Russia’s southern border region by radical Salafists and Wahhabists funded by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Qatar, not coincidentally, hosts a Brookings Institution office that advises the Qatari government.

But dominance of U.S. foreign policy does not end with Nuland and her husband. Kagan’s brother, Fred Kagan, is another neo-con foreign policy launderer. Residing at the American Enterprise Institute, Fred Kagan was an “anti-corruption” adviser to General David Petraeus. Kagan held this job even as Petraeus was engaged in an extra-marital affair, which he corruptly covered up. Fred Kagan’s wife is Kimberly Kagan. She has been involved in helping to formulate disastrous U.S. policies for the military occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. Fred and Kimberly have also worked on U.S. covert operations to overthrow the government of Iran. No family in the history of the United States, with the possible exception of John Foster and Allen Dulles, has had more blood on its hands than have the Kagans. And it is this family that is today helping to ratchet up the Cold War on the streets of Kyiv.

Victoria Nuland is, indeed, the proper “Doughnut Dolly” for the paid George Soros, U.S. Agency for International Development, National Endowment for Democracy, and Freedom House provocateurs on Maidan Square. Political prostitutes representing so many causes, from nationalistic Ukrainian fascists to pro-EU globalists, require a symbol. There is no better symbol for the foreign-made “Orange Revolution II” than the biscuit-distributing Victoria Nuland. Her unleavened biscuits have found the hungry mouths of America’s “Three Stooges” of ex-boxer and political opportunist Vitaly Klitschko, globalist Arseny Yatsenyuk, and neo-Nazi Oleg Tyagnibok.
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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:22 am

Anonymous Ukraine Klitschko e-mails and Nuland/Pyatt dialogue prove US-backed coup
Anonymous Ukraine Klitschko e-mails and Nuland/Pyatt dialogue prove US-backed coup

A coup d’état has occurred in Ukraine and all of the signs and even the actors behind it were known to the world before it happened. Before the democratically elected president went into hiding and the parliament was taken over by western puppets and neo-nazi [sic] thugs we all knew what the western geopolitical architects were planning on their chessboard.

Warnings were repeatedly issued and broadcast and calls were made, before the situation spiraled out of control, for those in power to maintain order and prevent what has happened in Ukraine. These warning came from across the spectrum, from analysts to high level government officials and leaders, yet those in power in Ukraine were either negligent in preventing the coup or were in fact totally impotent to stop it. In either case the failure by President Yanukovich to keep order and protect the Ukrainian people (all of the Ukrainian people) from the horror that has been unleashed on Ukraine (a horror we are only seeing the beginning of) is a betrayal to his people and a failure on his part in fulfilling his duties, no matter how Machiavellian the plots and the actors were, who successfully overthrew the government and sent him into hiding.
Proof of Treason by the Opposition
It is not, and has not been for some time, a secret that the West was behind the previous color revolution in Ukraine and it was not a secret that the same infrastructure was being used by the US/NATO/CIA to destabilize Ukraine after Ukraine made a brave and independent sovereign decision to say no to a European Union deal which in fact offered it nothing and say yes to the Russian led Customs Union which offered it $100 billion over 7 years.
Yes dear reader in reality the EU deal offered nothing for Ukraine other than some tenuous abstract idea spread by false propaganda that somehow life would be better for Ukrainians if they became the stepchildren of the EU. What EU integration would have done, and what the goal is and what it will do, is to cement plans for including Ukraine in NATO and placing NATO military infrastructure in Ukraine. This is the crowning jewel of US/NATO expansion plans to move right up to Russian borders.
These plans are being aided and abetted by the so-called Ukrainian opposition, who in reality have no interest in supporting the Ukrainian people and have now aided foreign forces in destroying and taking over their own country. Not only have they now sold out their country to foreign forces but they have allowed the worst elements of their population to achieve and unprecedented power grab as the neo-nazi forces of Dmitry Yarosh have now through the use of terror, violence and murder taken control of Kiev and are spreading their wave of terror and hate to other parts of Ukraine taking region after region.
Not only does the now infamous conversation between US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt that was released on the internet show firsthand the level of US meddling in Ukraine and even the collusion of the United Nations in bringing about an illegal change of government in Ukraine, but e-mails released by the hacktivist group Anonymous Ukraine and other evidence prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the leading opposition figures are clearly just puppets for western forces.
The e-mails that were released by Anonymous Ukraine have been suppressed by the West and were commented on by Anonymous Ukraine in an interview for the Voice of Russia. The fact that they are genuine is backed up by the silence from all of the parties involved and the attempts by western special services to have them permanently removed from the Internet.
The e-mails released by Anonymous between Laurynas Jonavicius an Advisor to the President of Lithuania, a country that has been active in Nazi historical revisionism, and Vitaly Klitschko were accidentally uncovered by Anonymous when they hacked the e-mails of the Lithuanian Administration and show how Klitschko is controlled by the West through a Lithuanian intermediary.
The text of the first e-mail, rewritten verbatim below is apparently one of the first as he addresses the advisor as “Mr. Jonavicius”. In the e-mail Klitschko refers to plans for his future inferring that he agrees to their terms. He also mentions the money him and his circle are to be paid, a visit to the Lithuanian Embassy and his bank account in Germany where the said monies are to be transferred.
Klitschko’s e-mail source IP information shows that his e-mails emanate from his own domain “k-mg.com” which expires August 26th, 2014. His domain is registered to Klitschko Management Group GmbH, located at Grosse Elbstr. Street 275 in Hamburg, Germany. Klitschko is known to have travelled to Germany several times before the upheavals.
E-Mail #1
Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:18:41 +0100 (CET)
Dear Mr. Jonavicius,
I am writing to thank you for your assistance. The meeting with Mrs. Grauziniene was very productive. We exchanged views on current events and discussed our plans for the future. Mrs. Grauziniene made some interesting proposals concerning my future. I need to give it some thought but in general I am willing to accept your terms.
Special thanks to all Lithuanian friends for financial assistance. Today my assistant visited your embassy where he met the Counselor. They discussed financial issues and plans for future cooperation. My assistant also provided Valentina with the details of my bank account in Germany.
I look forward to a successful working relationship in the future.
Regards,
Vitali 
The next e-mail is dated December 7th which is exactly 3 days before Victoria Nuland appeared on Maidan Square to hand out doughnuts to protestors. Klitschko has obviously had a lot of phone or other contact with the Lithuanian advisor at this point and refers to a phone conversation and addresses him as simply Laurynas. He discusses officials from other countries visiting Maidan for moral support, which shows that the entire charade has nothing to do with the Ukrainian people nor with Ukraine. In the e-mail he even mentions Nuland directly and someone from the US Congress. Hence John McCain showed up. This may not be illegal at this point but in light of the fact that they were involved in the organizing of a coup and the overthrowing of a legitimate democratically elected government, it is highly illegal.
Klitschko also requests information on President Yanukovich, in other words for intelligence and for the President of Ukraine to be spied on by a foreign power. An egregious treasonous act if there ever was one.
E-Mail #2
Sat, 07 Dec 2013 15:48:32 +0100 (CET)
Laurynas,
Following up upon our telephone conversation I think it would be useful to schedule a visit of some high-ranking officials from the EU. Maidan is in need of constant moral support. It would be appropriate to invite someone from Berlin. I have some top-ranking friends there but for some reason they hesitate.
Our American friends promised to pay a visit in the coming days, we may even see Nuland or someone from the Congress.
Another concern I want to raise is that Yanukovych keeps a low profile. It looks very suspicious. What's he up to? We would really appreciate some more information on this issue.
Sincerely yours,
Vitali
In the third e-mail Klitschko again says he is grateful for support (again we must underline they are working on overthrowing a government) and promises to do a good job for his new masters. These promises should be made to the Ukrainian people not a foreign power. He also shows knowledge and intention to destabilize Ukraine and thanks the foreign power for intelligence it has provided on his own president.
E-Mail #3
December 14, 2013
Laurynas,
I am very grateful to the President and all Lithuanian friends for such strong support. I will do everything possible to meet the expectations of my European partners.
Your colleague has arrived and started working with my team. He's a real pro and I think his services may be required even after the country is destabilized.
I've also met your people from the Embassy. The information about Yanukovych's plans they handed me is very important for our common cause. I would like to receive this kind of information on a permanent basis.
Sincerely yours,
Vitali 
In the final and fourth e-mail Klitschko seems impatient to start real violence and calls for a “radical escalation”. He also asks for more money for the “services of supporters” removing all possible doubt about the nature of the “opposition” which are nothing but paid thugs and killers.
E-Mail #4
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 14:43:35 +0200
Laurynas,
I think we've paved the way for more radical escalation of the situation. Isn't it time to proceed with more decisive actions?
I also want you to consider the possibility of increasing funding to pay for the services of our supporters.
Sincerely,
Vitali
Proof of US Meddling
A conversation released on the Internet on about February 6th (timed for the Olympics) between US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt is even more damning. It is important to underline that under international law planning and carrying out the overthrow of the government of a foreign country is completely illegal. This is especially odious when you consider that Ukraine had a democratically elected government and was not ruled by some tyrannical dictator or monarch but a democratically elected president.
Pyatt believes that everything is going according to plan and discussed matter of factly plans to install the opposition in Ukraine in government posts and where they would be most effective. He also mentions an apparent conversation between Nuland and Arseniy Yatseniuk in which she apparently put him in his place and he submitted to their plans. The hint is to a threat of some sort, or pressure of some kind which Pyatt says needs to be applied to Klitschko.
During the conversation they also mention Oleh Tyahnybok another opposition leader apparently under their control and perhaps most damning is United Nations collusion, which goes against the United Natios Charter and all international laws and conventions regarding the respect for sovereignty and the integrity of nations and the right of the people for self-determination.
The arrogance of Nuland and Pyatt to use pet names with their puppets, typical of American government officials but nonetheless shocking: Klitschko is Klitsch and Arseniy Yatseniuk is Yats. The admission that Ban Ki Moon is part of the plot is something that should be causing an outcry worldwide but no one seems to have noticed.
Pyatt: I think we're in play. The Klitschko piece is obviously the complicated electron here. Especially the announcement of him as deputy prime minister and you've seen some of my notes on the troubles in the marriage right now so we're trying to get a read really fast on where he is on this stuff. But I think your argument to him, which you'll need to make, I think that's the next phone call you want to set up, is exactly the one you made to Yats. And I'm glad you sort of put him on the spot on where he fits in this scenario. And I'm very glad that he said what he said in response.
Nuland: Good. I don't think Klitsch should go into the government. I don't think it's necessary, I don't think it's a good idea.
Pyatt: Yeah. I guess... in terms of him not going into the government, just let him stay out and do his political homework and stuff. I'm just thinking in terms of sort of the process moving ahead we want to keep the moderate democrats together. The problem is going to be Tyahnybok and his guys and I'm sure that's part of what is calculating on all this.
Nuland: I think Yats is the guy who's got the economic experience, the governing experience. He's the... what he needs is Klitsch and Tyahnybok on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week, you know. I just think Klitsch going in... he's going to be at that level working for Yatseniuk, it's just not going to work.

Pyatt: No. I think... I mean that's what he proposed but I think, just knowing the dynamic that's been with them where Klitschko has been the top dog, he's going to take a while to show up for whatever meeting they've got and he's probably talking to his guys at this point, so I think you reaching out directly to him helps with the personality management among the three and it gives you also a chance to move fast on all this stuff and put us behind it before they all sit down and he explains why he doesn't like it.
Nuland: OK, good. I'm happy. Why don't you reach out to him and see if he wants to talk before or after.
Pyatt: OK, will do. Thanks.
Nuland: OK... one more wrinkle for you Geoff. I can't remember if I told you this, or if I only told Washington this, that when I talked to Jeff Feltman (United Nations Under-Secretary-General for Political Affairs) this morning, he had a new name for the UN guy Robert Serry did I write you that this morning?
Pyatt: Yeah I saw that.
Nuland: OK. He's now gotten both Serry and Ban Ki-moon to agree that Serry could come in Monday or Tuesday. So that would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and to have the UN help glue it and, you know, Fuck the EU.
The Goal
The goal in Ukraine is clear, install a western puppet government and base US/NATO military infrastructure in the country. Yanukovich attempted to achieve closer ties with Russia and almost immediately the paid western backed protestors appeared on Maidan Square and instantly the West was calling for early elections. Why didn’t they call for early elections in the US when several thousand protestors appeared in Washington and in front of the White House last November? Again hypocrisy.
The goal was removing the leader, as has been the goal in Syria, in Venezuela, in Libya, in Iraq, and anywhere else the government or the leader has maintained a modicum of independence from the US or attempted to have ties with Russia. Even in Russia attempts were made at removing President Putin which failed.
The leader is now gone but the armed neo-nazi thugs have not disappeared from Maidan, they demand spots in the government and at the head of the security services and they demand that their policies are passed into law as we saw with the immediate outlawing of the Russian language. This is not something wanted by the Ukrainian people, over 50% of whom speak Russian as their native language.
They are there for another reason, the final goal has not yet been met, and that is the integration of Ukraine into NATO, whether the people of Ukraine want it or not. The Maidan will not be cleared until all goals and infrastructure are in place to expel Russia and end any chance of Ukraine being in the sphere of influence of Russia. There must also be mechanisms installed to make sure that NATO is allowed to enter the sovereign territory of Ukraine and station their war machine in Ukraine. The West will not have another chance at Ukraine so the bandera nazis will stay and occupy Kiev until the end
The NATO war machine and the neo-conservatives architects are still living in a Cold War fantasy and cannot see the world in any other way. They are blind to the realities of the modern world and are attempting and in fact are changing the world to fit their fantasy. This anti-Russian psychosis is what NATO was founded on and what it continues to exist for to this very day.
Any Means to an End
Thepeople of Ukraine mean nothing to the far right forces that have toppled the government. They mean even less to the western architects and pay masters of the coup in Ukraine. Ukraine has a long history of problems with extremist nazi groups and they have been organizing and training, by some estimates for 10 years, to bring them to level of readiness that we saw on Maidan. These are lunatics that are calling for the killing of Jews and Russians and for anyone else who does not share their views.
These are groups who are armed and trained and openly murder police and are engaged in a campaign of terror against the people and the government of Ukraine. They are using violence and threats and terrorist tactics to force officials to resign and to take over the houses and building of government. They have succeeded in Kiev and now they are pretending to be a legitimate power.
It is these neo-nazi groups that Victoria Nuland and Klitschko are supporting because they think they will help them to obtain and maintain power, but both of them are wrong. These groups hate Jews and as they are both Jewish (Nuland and Klitschko) it is highly unlikely that the likes of Dmitry Yarosh and his minions will support the opposition for long. Once the Right Sector, controls the security and the police structures they will be able to do whatever they want in Ukraine. And that includes mass arrests of anyone who opposes them, namely Russians and Jews.
In their blind ambition to bring Ukraine into NATO and expel Russia, the US has supported the worst ultra-nationalist nazi elements in Ukraine and the death and destruction ahead are nothing compared to what we have already seen them do.
The US supported the opposition led by Klitschko and supported those who were gathered to bring death and destruction to Ukraine, and US ignorance of the forces in the countries where they unleash mayhem and what they will do continues to call into question the sanity of those who are behind these revolutions.
What is happening in Ukraine is the same thing that happened in Libya, Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan. In those country there were murderous Islamists and terrorists that were supported, funded and armed. They were the worst elements of those countries.
In Ukraine it is murderous nationalist terrorists and neo-nazis, but it does not matter, as long as the government is overthrown. If the country is destroyed that is even better because then the country will be easier to control. And again the people mean nothing. Democracy means nothing. If Democracy meant something the Ukrainian people would have been offered a referendum to change their president and constitution, not seeing people come into power backed by thugs who murder police in front of cameras.
US Threats Against Peace
Since the very start of the troubles in Ukraine the United States has been issuing threats to all parties who might put an end to the mayhem. Yanhukovich was immediately warned not to interfere. He was warned not to crack down and he heeded these warnings. He did nothing until it was too late. He was caught in the classic catch 22. If he did something he would be demonized and if he did not he would be seen as weak. He was seen as weak and this only compounded his problems. The US has also made thinly veiled threats to Russia not to interfere: let the killers kill, that is the plan.
The End of the Ukraine
There is now no government in Ukraine US/NATO/CIA have made sure that the country is completely destroyed. It does not matter to them if the country spirals into anarchy or is divided into East and West. Which is something that is being suggested as the only solution. What is important is that it is pliable and NATO is allowed in.
As for the masses, the Russian population of Ukraine is almost 50% and getting rid of them would require genocide, so dividing the country into a Russian part and a Ukrainian part is the only possible solution and one that they nationalists are bringing about.
Outlawing the Russian language, threatening Jews and Russians with death and threatening the Orthodox Church leave only one option and actually give the Russian/Jewish/Orthodox population a legal basis for that option, which is to secede from Ukraine and take half of the country with them which is what will probably happen. Can these right wing fascist groups that have been training for decades be brought under control? Not likely, and such a solution will not be supported.
Why is the West going to support these groups? Because they are anti-Russian and their rabid Russo-phobia has driven them mad.
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They could still get him out of office.
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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:39 am

Regime Change in Kiev

Victoria Nuland Admits: US Has Invested $5 Billion In The Development of Ukrainian, "Democratic Institutions"



International Business Conference at Ukraine in Washington - National Press Club - December 13, 2013

Victoria Nuland - Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Eurasian Affairs

US Assistant Secretary of State for Europe, Nuland said: “Since the declaration of Ukrainian independence in 1991, the United States supported the Ukrainians in the development of democratic institutions and skills in promoting civil society and a good form of government - all that is necessary to achieve the objectives of Ukraine’s European. We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. ” Nuland said the United States will continue to “promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.”

Posted February 09, 2014

Full Speech



Washington's Cloned Female Warmongers

By Finian Cunningham

February 09, 2014 "Information Clearing House - What is it about America's women diplomats? They seem so hard and cloned - bereft of any humanity or intelligence. Presumably, these women are supposed to represent social advance for the female gender. But, far from displaying female independence, they are just a pathetic copy of the worst traits in American male politicians - aggressive, arrogant and completely arrant in their views.

Take Victoria Nuland - the US Assistant Secretary of State - who was caught using obscene language in a phone call about the European Union and the political affairs of Ukraine. In her previous posting as a spokeswoman for the US State Department, Nuland had the demeanor of a robotic matron with a swivel eye.

Now in her new role of covertly rallying anti-government protesters in Ukraine, Nuland has emerged to sound like a bubblegum-chewing Mafia doll. In her leaked private conversation with the US ambassador to Kiev, the American female diplomat is heard laying down in imperious tones how a new government in Ukraine should be constituted. Nuland talks about "gluing together" a sovereign country as if it is a mere plaything, and she stipulates which members of the US-backed street rabble in Kiev should or should not be included in any Washington-approved new government in the former Soviet republic.

We don't know who actually tapped and leaked Nuland's private call to the US ambassador in Kiev, Geoffrey Pyatt. It could have been the Ukrainian or Russian secret services, but, regardless, it was an inspired move to reveal it. For the disclosure, which has been posted on the internet, lays bare the subversive meddling agenda of Washington in Ukrainian internal affairs. Up to now, the Americans have been piously pretending that their involvement is one of a bystander supporting democracy from afar.

But, thanks to the Nuland's foul-mouthed indiscretion, the truth is out. Washington, from her own admission, is acting like an agent provocateur in Ukraine's political turmoil. That is an illegal breach of international rules of sovereignty. Nuland finishes her phone call like a gangster ordering a hit on a rival, referring to incompetent European interference in Ukraine with disdain - "F...k the EU."

What we are witnessing here is the real, ugly face of American government and its uncouth contempt for international law and norms.

Next up is Wendy Sherman, the Under Secretary for Political Affairs, who is also Washington's top negotiator in the P5+1 nuclear talks with Iran. Sherman is another flinty-eyed female specimen of the American political class, who, like Nuland, seems to have a block of ice for a heart and a frozen Popsicle for a brain.

Again, like Nuland, Sherman aims to excel in her political career by sounding even more macho, morose and moronic than her male American peers.

Last week, Sherman was giving testimony before the US Senate foreign affairs committee on the upcoming negotiations with Iran over the interim nuclear agreement. The panel was chaired by the warmongering Democrat Senator Robert Menendez, who wants to immediately ramp up more sanctions on Iran, as well as back the Israeli regime in any preemptive military strike on the Islamic Republic.

Sherman's performance was a craven display of someone who has been brainwashed to mouth a mantra of falsehoods with no apparent ability to think for herself. It's scary that such people comprise the government of the most nuclear-armed-and-dangerous state in the world.

Programmed Sherman accused Iran of harboring ambitions to build nuclear weapons. "We share the same goal [as the warmonger Menendez] to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon." And she went on to repeat threadbare, risible allegations that Iran is supporting international terrorism. That is a disturbing indication of the low level of political intelligence possessed by the US chief negotiator.

"Iran also continues to arm and train militants in Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, and Bahrain. And Iran and Lebanese Hezbollah continue," asserted Sherman without citing an iota of proof and instead relying on a stale-old propaganda narrative.

The number three in the US State Department went on to say of the interim nuclear deal with Iran: "What is also important to understand is that we remain in control over whether to accept the terms of a final deal or not. We have made it clear to Iran that, if it fails to live up to its commitments, or if we are unable to reach agreement on a comprehensive solution, we would ask the Congress to ramp up new sanctions."

Remember that Sherman and her State Department boss John Kerry are considered "soft on Iran" by the likes of Menendez, John McCain, Lyndsey Graham, Mark Kirk, and the other political psychopaths in Washington. So, we can tell from Sherman's callous words and mean-minded logic that the scope for genuine rapprochement between the US and Iran is extremely limited.

Sherman finished her performance before the Senate panel with the obligatory illegal threat of war that Washington continually issues against Iran: "We retain all options to ensure that Iran cannot obtain a nuclear weapon."

In the goldfish-bowl environment of Washington politics, perhaps such female officials are to be even more feared. The uniform monopoly of America's political class is dictated by militarism – weapons manufacturers, oil companies and Zionist lobbyists. The only way to "succeed" in this cesspool is to be even more aggressive and imperialist than your peers.

Nuland and Sherman illustrate the cold-hearted logic at work in American robotic politics: it's a system programmed for imperialism and war, and it doesn't matter whether the officials are Democrat, Republic, male or female. They are all clones of a war criminal state.


They are all clones of a war criminal state.
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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby FourthBase » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:43 am

Guys, why is instigating geopolitical change necessarily a bad thing? Is that not what all of us hope for? Could not every revolution ever be maligned for having instigated geopolitical change? What if the change is good? Should no one in the world hope to instigate geopolitical change in...North Korea? Mind you, the instrument of change might have simply been sending Rodman over to pal around. But maybe there's an idealist wing in the CIA who plan on funding a bunch of charitable NGO's to try to subvert the dictatorship there with...well, delivering a non-North-Korean newspaper would be a subversive act, so, wouldn't take much. Do you object? Do you think that's dastardly? Or would it be morally imperative? Why shouldn't everyone be as free as you? If you were a citizen in one of these countries under these grotesquely anti-democratic regimes, why would you give a shit about who's helping you get free or why? First, you get free. No?
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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:52 am

FB ...channeling his inner PNAC.... :wink:
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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby FourthBase » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:09 am

No, lol, those guys are warmongerers.
I didn't say anything about war.

But, yeah, why not try to help liberate everyone?
That's a bad thing? Mind you, first in my mind is my own country.
Everybody needs liberating. Why squabble over who assists in liberating who?
If the idiots in charge of the global pathocracy think they can control liberated people...
Then by all means, let them try! And then the liberated people just have to not be re-captured.
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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:11 am

FourthBase » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:09 am wrote:No, lol, those guys are warmongerers.
I didn't say anything about war.

But, yeah, why not try to help liberate everyone?
That's a bad thing? Mind you, first in my mind is my own country.
Everybody needs liberating. Why squabble over who assists in liberating who?
If the idiots in charge of the global pathocracy think they can control liberated people...
Then by all means, let them try! And then the liberated people just have to not be re-captured.



but PNAC/NED are not trying to liberate the world FB....do you really believe that?
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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby justdrew » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:15 am

FourthBase » 03 Mar 2014 06:43 wrote:Guys, why is instigating geopolitical change necessarily a bad thing? Is that not what all of us hope for? Could not every revolution ever be maligned for having instigated geopolitical change? What if the change is good? Should no one in the world hope to instigate geopolitical change in...North Korea? Mind you, the instrument of change might have simply been sending Rodman over to pal around. But maybe there's an idealist wing in the CIA who plan on funding a bunch of charitable NGO's to try to subvert the dictatorship there with...well, delivering a non-North-Korean newspaper would be a subversive act, so, wouldn't take much. Do you object? Do you think that's dastardly? Or would it be morally imperative? Why shouldn't everyone be as free as you? If you were a citizen in one of these countries under these grotesquely anti-democratic regimes, why would you give a shit about who's helping you get free or why? First, you get free. No?


read this:
http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/2374-oligarchs-triumphant-ukraine-omidyar-and-the-neo-liberal-agenda.html

and... FREE? please. freedumb is the best they can hope for. seriously, read the article. Omidyar is now considered worse than useless and the fact that he's gathered many of the best journalists with his honeypot website, why it needs 250 million dollars (!) to pay some salaries and host a website is beyond me. The dudes policies and allies are highly suspect.

Charitable NGO are not charitable NGO's if they engage in political subversion, such acts negate the stated purpose of an NGO and risk the lives of anyone working for one anywhere.
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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:22 am

I posted Chris up thread ...but I don't think he read it...thanks for reminding him :)
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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby FourthBase » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:24 am

but PNAC/NED are not trying to liberate the world FB....do you really believe that?


No, duh, as I said, they are warmongerers.
They're liars. Sociopaths. They're vampires, essentially.

Am I wrong by the transitive property of being vaguely similar in sentiment?
Fuck PNAC, lol. They have nothing to do with what I think. They're evil slime.

As I said, all that matters to me is whether people resist tyranny and rule themselves.
Apparently we're supposed to ignore the vicious crackdown that was attempted and overcome?
We're supposed to be unhappy that citizens took over institutions, kicked out corrupt fiends?
If sociopaths liberate others despite themselves and their ulterior motives, then let 'em.
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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby kelley » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:59 am

FourthBase » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:24 am wrote:[quote

If sociopaths liberate others despite themselves and their ulterior motives, then let 'em.




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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby FourthBase » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:54 pm

...let the cake eat them? YES. :partyhat
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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:59 pm

funny that.... meet Neocon “Doughnut Dolly” the U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland who was handing out cookies to anti-government protesters on Maidan square in central Kyiv.

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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby FourthBase » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:22 pm

Nuland: "Here, have a cookie...of freedom. You're welcome."

Majority of western Ukraine: "Here, be eaten by your own cookie. Numnumnum, thx. Now piss off."

That is what is possible in this crux of a moment, when the offices are literally held by The People, before an imperial superpower exerts its militaristic might to re-capture the seats of power. If those were brown Muslims in Kiev, and if about a third of them were right-wing zealots, and if that were the US military building up for an invasion -- woops, having already invaded under the pretense of securing a strategic asset, encircling Ukrainian bases -- where would you be standing? Here's my guess: The opposite side. Hey, maybe I would be, too, depending on how much control the extremists had over which powers. But probably not, I'd probably be just as sickened by the brute show of force and frightened by the threat of WWIII, and just as supportive of the populist underdog, regardless of who else had wagered on them or why. Perhaps more apprehensive, given my phobia of political Islam. I mean, aside from the dreadful far-right elements, the opposition in western Ukraine sounds like a progressive melting pot with inarguable humanitarian and egalitarian wishes. So, correct me. If that's wrong.
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Re: Russia's de facto invasion of Ukraine

Postby kelley » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:37 pm

a l'exemple de saturne, la révolution dévore ses enfants
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