Fascists are the Tools of the State

[Wombaticus Rex]

Although the ("neo") far Right as a whole might indulge in a lot of anti-State rhetoric, as a group they seem far more likely to wind up as mercenaries for rent on the global market than as "successful" revolutionaries.

And in so doing, they remain the mirror image of their "Left" opposition.

I cannot help but ask: do you think that using the label of "Fascism" to cover "marginal, racist, and violent loonies" is pretty much an identical maneuver to using the label of "Occupy" to cover every scumbag sexually assaulting female activists and overdosing on drugs in their tents?

[jakell]

That's another good term... 'marginal', and it was what I was getting at when using the word 'diffuse'

AD sort of used a Strawman and suggested that I was saying these 'threats' aren't real. They are real, they are just marginal and diffuse. And to regain a sense of perspective, we can possibly compare them to similar threat levels.

I think what I've being seeing here is not 'anti-fascism' (for want of a better term) as I know it, but CT culture applied to that field, along with it's unfortunate tendencies of over-enthusiasm and exagerration.

[American Dream]

That's another good term... 'marginal', and it was what I was getting at when using the word 'diffuse'

AD sort of used a Strawman and suggested that I was saying these 'threats' aren't real. They are real, they are just marginal and diffuse. And to regain a sense of perspective, we can possibly compare them to similar threat levels.

I think what I've being seeing here is not 'anti-fascism' (for want of a better term) as I know it, but CT culture applied to that field, along with it's unfortunate tendencies of over-enthusiasm and exagerration.

Keith Preston, Troy Southgate and company surely though offer an odious alternative- and a throughly bogus interpretation of "Anarchism", anti-Fascism and the like. They are quite a travesty, really.

Getting this is kind of a no-brainer, isn't it, jakell?

[jakell]

Man!... Way back I commented on your inability to ask investigative questions.

Seems you have a similar problem with rhetorical ones too.

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[American Dream]

Man!... Way back I commented on your inability to ask investigative questions.

Seems you have a similar problem with rhetorical ones too.

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I am not responsible for your pattern of denial, deflection and avoidance around these issues- even up to this very moment...

[slimmouse]

I almost commented after Neons excellent reply to the OP, that there really wasnt much need to continue with this thread.

You see, the Fascists that are "the state" , (where "the state "essentially is the control system), dont care what creed race or religion you care to adhere to, because their intention is to grind each and every one of us into the dust.

I can say with some certainty that this poiint appears to be going over at least one head around here.

[American Dream]

I almost commented after Neons excellent reply to the OP, that there really wasnt much need to continue with this thread.

You see, the Fascists that are "the state" , (where "the state "essentially is the control system), dont care what creed race or religion you care to adhere to, because their intention is to grind each and every one of us into the dust.

I can say with some certainty that this poiint appears to be going over at least one head around here.

No- you're not quite getting it. Of course I understand that while individual members of the ruling class may be deeply racist, nationalistic, ethnocentric or whatever, as a class, their fundamental interests lie more in the realm of profit and control.

Go back to the OP- it makes it pretty clear that neo-fascists and other such wankers driven by ideology, hatred and misunderstanding will regularly be used by the power structure for its own purposes...

[slimmouse]

And you have spent 7 years explaining this to us, somehow believing that we dont understand this ?

That is some serious waste of fucking intellect there.

[jakell]

Aha, I see a 'slight' adjustment above. Now we are talking of 'neo-fascists' and hence crypto-fascists and all the slight adjustments that end up meaning almost anything.

I would think it's ultimately down to the guy who was in charge of coming up with the thread title. Who did you delegate that to AD? Plus, the guy who was in charge of adding contextual comments to the article failed to come up with the goods too.

[American Dream]

Keith Preston, Troy Southgate and company surely though offer an odious alternative- and a throughly bogus interpretation of "Anarchism", anti-Fascism and the like. They are quite a travesty, really.

Getting this is kind of a no-brainer, isn't it, jakell?

[jakell]

So bad, you said it twice!

[American Dream]

So on-point he has to ignore what it says two times?


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[jakell]

So on-point he has to ignore what it says?

What does it say then?

It looks like a convoluted piece of nonsense to me, and I usually ignore questions that require interpretation (I'm assuming it is a question, it has a question mark on the end)

Like I said, you seem to have trouble asking investigative questions.

[American Dream]

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[jakell]

You see. This is why I said you are not like any 'anti-fascist' I've ever met. The nature of the subject usually makes them fairly focussed and down to Earth. you go the other way and tend to get all weird and cryptic when not doing C&P's.

You seem to be coming from somewhere else.