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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby DrEvil » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:30 pm

AWACS planes can't make other planes disappear from radar, civilian or otherwise.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby chump » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:49 pm

http://news.asiaone.com/news/asia/missi ... went-radar
BEIJING - A research team from China's University of Science and Technology detected tremors in the sea near the Malaysia Vietnam border on March 8 hours after MH370 disappeared from the radar screen...

... In a report published on its website, the Wen Lianxing Research Team said it suspected the tremor to relate to the missing MAS plane because the area "is not within seismic zone".

"The incident happened at 2.55am on March 8, about one-and-a-half hours after MH370 lost contact at 1.30am.

"One of the two possible locations is (an area) about 116km to the northeast of MH370's last confirmed location," it said.

The research team said it detected the tremor with two seismographs located within the borders of Malaysia and identified the location with the signals.

"Many countries have deployed aircrafts, vessels and satelites to locate the missing flight to no avail.

"If this tremor was indeed caused by the plane crashing into the sea, the intensity of the seismicity indicated that the crashing process was disastrous," the report said.

The Wen Lianxing Research Team is part of the university's School of Earth and Space Sciences. Four researchers were involved in this project.

Flight MH370 on a Boeing777-200ER was carrying 239 passengers and crew en route to Beijing.


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By Natalie Harrison and Lynn Adler

NEW YORK, Feb 28 (IFR/RLPC) - JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon delivered a confident message at the bank's global high-yield conference this week, telling attendees it would be no more cautious than any other Wall Street bank when it comes to lending, according to investors present at the event.

But the bank's decision not to extend a revolving credit facility for Freescale Semiconductor earlier this month, a move confirmed by two market sources, appeared to send a very different message to the market.

It was deemed an unusual decision mainly because revolvers are usually private deals with relationship banks. By not extending the maturity of the revolver, JP Morgan passed up fees, which some bankers said did not make sense as it still had to honor the existing facility.

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The revolver got done - and at a larger size. Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, Barclays and Morgan Stanley all committed to the deal, which was increased by up to USD50m to a total of up to USD450m.

The decision demonstrates how carefully banks are scrutinizing which loans, and how many, they will commit to - and there is clearly a ripple effect from the leveraged lending guidance issued about a year ago by regulators.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby elfismiles » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:03 pm

Do you have a complete list of which aircraft palladium radar spoofing tech has been used on?

DrEvil » 15 Mar 2014 22:30 wrote:AWACS planes can't make other planes disappear from radar, civilian or otherwise.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby DrEvil » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:37 pm

elfismiles » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:03 am wrote:Do you have a complete list of which aircraft palladium radar spoofing tech has been used on?

DrEvil » 15 Mar 2014 22:30 wrote:AWACS planes can't make other planes disappear from radar, civilian or otherwise.


No, but that's not really the same thing. Palladium was part of a program that created ghost planes on Soviet military radars to gauge their sensitivity and how good the operators were.
They used it to create planes out of thin air, not to make them disappear.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby Zombie Glenn Beck » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:35 pm

You should check out that pilot forum thread I posted earlier. The Radar network in that area is extremely shoddy and decentralized. It would be pretty easy to sabotage just the right node, or pay off the right radar operator.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby 8bitagent » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:40 pm

Come one, come all...step right up to spin the wheel of theories! The latest CNN Headline "Was it the Pilots?". A few hours ago the headline was "what do we know about the passengers?"
Tomorrow it will be "the truth about the flight attendent, betty"
Im sure soon, The Onion will be reporting it was the phantom of bin Laden pulling them under with his infernal neptune septer...
or the plane was secretly landed in Omaha and the passengers given identity changes
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby 8bitagent » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:43 pm

Has there ever, EVER been a terrorist hijacking with no demands, no target, no political diatribes, no 'chatter'? I mean this isnt DB Cooper.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby elfismiles » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:49 pm

DrEvil » 16 Mar 2014 01:37 wrote:
elfismiles » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:03 am wrote:Do you have a complete list of which aircraft palladium radar spoofing tech has been used on?

DrEvil » 15 Mar 2014 22:30 wrote:AWACS planes can't make other planes disappear from radar, civilian or otherwise.


No, but that's not really the same thing. Palladium was part of a program that created ghost planes on Soviet military radars to gauge their sensitivity and how good the operators were.
They used it to create planes out of thin air, not to make them disappear.


... the name "palladium" may refer to a program (against the soviets) but the tech employed in project palladium, I figure, likely has been used in multiple venues, housed within multiple aviation platforms (and awacs seem like a logical match for the purpose). though strangely the most detail I've heard about palladium comes from Annie Jacobsen's AREA-51 book and sounds less like the "radar injects" and "blip manipulation" we've heard ascribed to it via Mirage Men and various media outlets and more just like basic electronic countermeasures recon...

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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby Lord Balto » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:01 am

DrEvil » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:37 pm wrote:
elfismiles » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:03 am wrote:Do you have a complete list of which aircraft palladium radar spoofing tech has been used on?

DrEvil » 15 Mar 2014 22:30 wrote:AWACS planes can't make other planes disappear from radar, civilian or otherwise.


No, but that's not really the same thing. Palladium was part of a program that created ghost planes on Soviet military radars to gauge their sensitivity and how good the operators were.
They used it to create planes out of thin air, not to make them disappear.


Not that I take this too seriously, but there is the matter of the primary radar return from a plane crossing the Strait of Malacca. What if that were inserted into the Malaysian military radar to distract attention from the real plane's continuation northward?

And just in case you mystical types have missed it, I should point out that Josephus identifies the Ophir of the Table of Nations in Genesis with Malacca, the city after which the strait was named.

As for this not being an earthquake zone, I have to wonder what the Chinese geophysicists have been smoking.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby justdrew » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:58 am

what real proof do we have the plane ever existed in the first place?
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:57 am

Photos of weeping relatives?
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby justdrew » Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:04 am

JackRiddler » 16 Mar 2014 00:57 wrote:Photos of weeping relatives?


you know the answer to that. crisis actors! :jumping:
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby smiths » Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:34 am

if Freescale really had anything to do with this then maybe it was a trade and promotion flight,

'watch in awe as we make a plane full of real people disappear from the face of the Earth' - perfectly pitched to a very small group of key people, they know who they are

anything is possible since this became the weirdest plane incident of modern times
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby 82_28 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:48 am

The "crisis actor" and "promotional" thing is interesting. Here's the thing. I was glued to the reign of Arthur Chu on Jeopardy!. . .

I was reading shit about whether he won or lost. Everybody signs a contract that they will not speak of it -- can't even tell their family and shit what the outcome was. This all was taped months ago, yet no one came forward and said "I know exactly when he won and when he finally lost". Yet someone knew MONTHS ago the day he would finally go down. There has to be a few hundred people in the audience of the show's tapings. Nobody "tweeted" or whatever what they knew?

Because, I would be all "bro, check this out. Went to jeopardy taping while down in LA and in two months the winner is going to be X". For some reason this never happens! Never. Hundreds of people looked on to what happened months ago and yet nothing got leaked!
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