2014 Malaysian Planes Lost: Pacific and Ukraine

[NeonLX]

I was wondering when drones would enter the picture. This sounds like a decent use for the sons-a-bitches.

[justdrew]

so. the engine ping transmission doesn't contain GPS derived location data? That seems like a huge design oversight.

[Spiro C. Thiery]

O'Reilly criticizes media who pedalled fiction, ie. anything other than what he told you last week, which is what the same media he is criticizing now confirms as the unbridled truth.

Jon Stewart, for his part, lampoons how for CNN no theory is too crazy.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/613121

Of course mainstream media are not exactly stellar informers to the public. But now we know the truth, right?

Leaving aside the fact that The O'Reilly Factor and The Daily Show are as mainstream as it gets, who's misleading who?

[chump]

Colbert was classic

[Laodicean]

[Iamwhomiam]

Right, Drew, No GPS.

Two revelations from this story, both true but unbelievable.

There's an on-off switch on the transponder and that there's no GPS. Once the plane powers-up, both should become immediately active and remain active until after arriving at its destination and powering down.

[lucky]

....and now just as we have been told that debris will be collected bad weather steps in... i dunno but this really is begining to smell

[Lord Balto]

Some good links here: http://projectcamelotportal.com/blog/31-kerrys-blog/2058-knowing-where-to-look-flight-370-ongoing on Freescale Semiconductor and Inmarsat possible ulterior motives.

[Lord Balto]

....and now just as we have been told that debris will be collected bad weather steps in... i dunno but this really is beginning to smell

That's the rotting mangosteens they couldn't wait to ship by boat across the South China Sea.

[Lord Balto]

Colbert was classic

And presumably you get your info on 9/11 from The Daily Show.

[Lord Balto]

"using a type of analysis never before used in an investigation of this sort,"

Do they mean guessing?

No no no! Use the proper scientific terminology! That's rectal extraction technique. RET for short.

[Lord Balto]

This in re Inmarsat from Veterans Today:

In March 2008 it was disclosed that U.S. Hedge Fund Harbinger Capital owned 28% of the company....

Harbinger Group Inc. (NYSE:HRG), formerly Zapata Corporation, is a holding company based in Rochester, New York, and originating from an oil company started by a group including the former United States president George H. W. Bush. Links between the company and the United States Central Intelligence Agency exist . In 2009, it was renamed the Harbinger Group Inc. in an attempt to thwart such affiliations.

[Ben D]

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/abe73078-b35d-11e3-b09d-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz2wvXmKkv9

Inmarsat’s use of data helps solve MH370 flight path riddle

The team used the “Doppler effect” of the satellite as it moved in its orbit to establish a set of measurements for the predicted northerly and southerly paths, a company spokesman said. The Doppler effect describes the change in the frequency of sound, radio or light waves as they travel between two objects, when one or both of them are moving.

The team then overlaid these measurement with data from other aircraft that had flown both “arcs” and the results corresponded with the southerly route. Inmarsat had the results peer-reviewed before passing them on to the Malaysian authorities.

It is possible to determine direction quite easily by comparing doppler effect of the MH370 signal with known doppler measurements of signals of north and south travelling aircraft...the satellite serving as the reference point.

Regarding what I had said earlier about how easy it is to detect doppler shift on a carrier wave to the satellite, while this is correct in principle, in this instance wrt the above piece, with rereading and reflection I deem the story B/S. Doppler shift can be only detected on the carrier wave itself in real time processing or if the carrier wave was recorded at the time and processed later, not on the modulated signal of the carrier which has been demodulated and recorded , and since the carrier wave in this instance is not recorded, there can be no post signal reception process to ascertain a doppler shift of the real time event.

[smiths]

i think the Diego Garcia angle has a lot of merit,

to me, the naming and prominence given to Inmarsat seemed odd, connecting that to the Freescale 20 employees and the mystery cargo, the idea that something dangerous was on its way to China does seem quite plausible, something dangerous enough to warrant killing 240 people and allowing a bogus search for a missing plane

the initial search in the wrong place for 3 or 4 days also seems mighty convenient, talk about sleight of hand, focus on the right hand turn while the left hand turn gets finished off,
the search in the South China Sea gave them enough time to unload in Diego Garcia, sort out whatever they needed to, and then fly that plane into the ocean in the area they are now searching,

witness testimony from an island like the Maldives is difficult to dismiss

when you live in an out of the way place, you get used to what comes and goes, when something odd flies over you damn well know about it

I live in Perth, and we never ever have contrails in the sky, since it is such an isolated city all planes are landing or taking off rather than flying over,
over the last few days i was in south-west Western Australia (Yallingup) and because of these long distance planes flying in to search the area we suddenly have contrails in the sky, and i noticed them, because they are out of the ordinary

i believe the residents of the Maldives over some dodgy satellite company spokesman

if it did unfold like that then i would imagine that all the passengers and crew were gassed and the plane was flown remotely to Diego Garcia since that is the method with the least possible potential for problems,
unless the Freescale engineers themselves were needed

arguing over the maths and physics is a distraction i think, the signposts are in the way it was handled from the very beginning, the way China reacted towards Malaysia, and the way everyone was sent one way when the plane had gone another

[Spiro C. Thiery]

...i believe the residents of the Maldives over some dodgy satellite company spokesman...
...arguing over the maths and physics is a distraction i think, the signposts are in the way it was handled from the very beginning, the way China reacted towards Malaysia, and the way everyone was sent one way when the plane had gone another

Hear!
And a distraction of slanderous proportions, because the phrase of the day is "because science" -- an updated distillation of that which is used to dismiss dissent.