2014 Malaysian Planes Lost: Pacific and Ukraine

[winston smith]

"because the phrase of the day is "because science" -- an updated distillation of that which is used to dismiss dissent".

I think science has become problematic. Its been marketed as factual but is now more an ideology than scientific principle. Check the "Science delusion" thread for more.

[NeonLX]

Like everything else, science has become a commodity. Especially the science that proves how making money a particular way is the Right Thing To Do.

[chump]

Colbert was classic

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[8bitagent]

CNN's 24 hour 370 coverage, particularly dipping into supernatural/bizarre theories gets lampooned on Daily Show with hilarious results
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/olkrd ... peculation

[winston smith]

I have this image in my mind of certain people (for reasons not understood) dropping bits of aeroplane into the sea at dead of night from deep black stealth planes and now becoming increasingly frustrated that the official search teams seem unable to find them before they sink.

[Lord Balto]

I have this image in my mind of certain people (for reasons not understood) dropping bits of aeroplane into the sea at dead of night from deep black stealth planes and now becoming increasingly frustrated that the official search teams seem unable to find them before they sink.

You're probably remembering the FBI agents carrying plane parts around at the Pentagon, in direct violation of the rules of evidence, if not actually planting evidence.

[Lord Balto]

so. the engine ping transmission doesn't contain GPS derived location data? That seems like a huge design oversight.

Not if one is planning on using them for false flag operations and importing opiates from U.S. Occupied Afghanistan. Smugglers have rights too, don't you know?

[Twyla LaSarc]

"because the phrase of the day is "because science" -- an updated distillation of that which is used to dismiss dissent".

I think science has become problematic. Its been marketed as factual but is now more an ideology than scientific principle. Check the "Science delusion" thread for more.

I'm noticing that on another board I go to they are having an influx of 'scientistists' who believe in the good works of science and scientists the way the Pope believes in Jesus. After a period of conversation with them, I suppose I should not have been surprised to find out that most grew up in religious households.

I see it as being just another way of building in a final authority and social arbitrator, who with his magic sees all.

[Lord Balto]

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/abe73078-b35d-11e3-b09d-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz2wvXmKkv9

Inmarsat’s use of data helps solve MH370 flight path riddle

The team used the “Doppler effect” of the satellite as it moved in its orbit to establish a set of measurements for the predicted northerly and southerly paths, a company spokesman said. The Doppler effect describes the change in the frequency of sound, radio or light waves as they travel between two objects, when one or both of them are moving.

The team then overlaid these measurement with data from other aircraft that had flown both “arcs” and the results corresponded with the southerly route. Inmarsat had the results peer-reviewed before passing them on to the Malaysian authorities.

It is possible to determine direction quite easily by comparing doppler effect of the MH370 signal with known doppler measurements of signals of north and south travelling aircraft...the satellite serving as the reference point.

Regarding what I had said earlier about how easy it is to detect doppler shift on a carrier wave to the satellite, while this is correct in principle, in this instance wrt the above piece, with rereading and reflection I deem the story B/S. Doppler shift can be only detected on the carrier wave itself in real time processing or if the carrier wave was recorded at the time and processed later, not on the modulated signal of the carrier which has been demodulated and recorded , and since the carrier wave in this instance is not recorded, there can be no post signal reception process to ascertain a doppler shift of the real time event.

There you go being all scientificky and whatnot. Don't you know that all the journalism majors in the news industry care about is whether their technobabble sounds reasonable?

[Iamwhomiam]

I dunno, but I tend to think they discovered the debris floating within the gyre.

Bit you know how they say "it's the quiet ones you really need to watch out for?" Well, who's been all but silent? Who's got the world's attention looking at a puddle while their military's on the march?

The plane could have boarded via the baggage compartment by 'special forces types' on a mission. They might have had to overcome and subdue ground crew members to gain access to the plane's baggage area and might have taken them aboard with them for later disposition, dead or alive, and then retrieved their target, the supposed mystery package, and then at altitude while in flight, blew a hole in the hull causing rapid decompression and rapid death of all aboard, exiting the plane through same with package and were picked up by a (insert country of choice) submarine after parachuting to safety while the doomed plane either flew on till its fuel was exhausted or it could possibly have broken apart immediately upon decompression. Unless the plane landed somewhere, it otherwise crashed into the ocean into pieces.

But any guess is good as another at this point in time.

[seemslikeadream]

[Lord Balto]

:shrug:

I have trouble with anyone Kerry Cassidy interviews. She basically doesn't seem to be able to determine whether someone is telling the truth or simply talking out of their butt.

I couldn't watch more than about half of what this guy was droning on about, but from what I could tell, he really has no worldview capable of explaining this kind of supposed takeover. I could be wrong, but I'm afraid this is just another part of a concerted effort to muddy the waters to the point where no one can figure out what's true and what's disinformation.

Furthermore, one has to wonder how many times the Malaysians can change the search area before the media finally figures out that they have no idea where the plane went.

[KUAN]

but I'm afraid this is just another part of a concerted effort to muddy the waters to the point where no one can figure out what's true and what's disinformation.

I go back to their website occasionally to try to figure what it's on about - and I concur...

[82_28]

In this day and age, somebody fucking knows what happened.

[lucky]

'follow the money' - this is where i keep ending up and with the patents on those semi-conductors worth billions and 4 out of 5 of the holders deaded or presumed deaded the remaining patent can be traced back to the caryle group who bought freescale for $17.6 billion this a supposably smallish company in austin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzgQwDeP7eM

This is a short film that explains really well what I have been looking at.