2014 Malaysian Planes Lost: Pacific and Ukraine

[8bitagent]

Years from now there will still be sightings of 370 wreckage that will turn out to be nothing.

370, for all it's worth, is long gone.

[Lord Balto]

This hasn't been posted yet? An IBM engineer who was on the plane supposedly got a text message out from Diego Garcia, after hiding his phone in his ass.
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/phillipwood.html

You may want to preface that with "Some yahoo claims that...."

Well Jim Stone may certainly be crazy, but the 4chan screenshot was first posted by 0_0 back on page 19 of this thread on March 23.

To which I posted then:

Someone is going to a lot of trouble to generate noise. The British Indian Ocean Territory is nowhere near the ping track.

So unless the ping track is a red herring, which it could certainly be, in which case the plane could be on the moon by now, this is all nonsense.

And again, beyond some ridiculous screen shot that I could produce using Google Earth and any draw program capable of generating a black rectangle, there is nothing.

[Lord Balto]

This hasn't been posted yet? An IBM engineer who was on the plane supposedly got a text message out from Diego Garcia, after hiding his phone in his ass.
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/phillipwood.html

You may want to preface that with "Some yahoo claims that...."

Well Jim Stone may certainly be crazy, but the 4chan screenshot was first posted by 0_0 back on page 19 of this thread on March 23.

To which I posted then:

Someone is going to a lot of trouble to generate noise. The British Indian Ocean Territory is nowhere near the ping track.

So unless the ping track is a red herring, which it could certainly be, in which case the plane could be on the moon by now, this is all nonsense.

And again, beyond some ridiculous screen shot that I could produce using Google Earth and any draw program capable of generating a black rectangle, there is nothing.

Christ! Stow that. I just got it through my thick little head that this is a posting to a message board. Some character with a hood over his head is supposed to have posted this via his iPhone from Diego Garcia to 4Chan. Gimme a break. 4Chan? Do IBM execs really post to 4Chan? When their lives are at stake? What is this, Internet Delusional Syndrome?

[slimmouse]

Durning his appearance on Red Ice radio ( Ive linked to the interview in the "Russai defacto invasion of the Ukraine" thread), Patrick Henningsen supplied a link to "The Sunday Wire", a weekly podcast he now hosts.

Taken from that series, the second hour of the link below talks any amount of common sense, breaking down the nonsense the 99.9% of us are being told about MH370.

His interview in the second hour of this podcast with Field McConnell gives us some interesting insights, despite McConnells name having the "Brandon Chase" factor about it.

Unlike Chase however, McConnell doesnt sing largely from the CIA songsheet.

Well worth a listen for all interested in this thread. Points mentioned, include the fact that all boeings are fitted with an uninterruptable autopilot capture in the event of say, hijacking ( in order to keep us all safe, you understand)

Apparently Lufthansa having bought their last fleet from Boeing, subsequently spent 840 million dollars redesigning this "benefit", to keep any autopilot activation in their own hands.

But of course all of these Aircraft have them, along with tracking technology that makes it perfectly clear that the idea that nobody knows where this plane is, is clearly some kind of technological idiocy that many of us here appear to have already seen through.

Link - http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/03/30/e ... valentine/

The whole podcast is well worthy of a listen, but for those without the time, the relevant interviews to this thread begin at about 35 minutes.

Just as an aside , Henningsens recent Red Ice interview, is where I first came across the qaint term "Jihadi tourism", to refer to the deployment of Al Qaeda fighters around the globe by Western Proxies

[Searcher08]

Last night I saw the article about the message from the IBM guy. I thought I'd try a bit of detective work, so downloaded IrfanView image editing program - it has an option that enables you to see the GPS data encoded into the jpeg file and you then click 'Google Earth' and you are taken to where the photo was taken. Which in this case appeared to be Diego Garcia. I spent a while looking for a way to associate GPS data with a random image but could not find one - all the programs I found were about reading EXIF data rather than spoofing it.
There is a facebook page for Philip Wood from his partner, where they refer to the pic as a cruel hoax. I didn't want to ask about it.
They referred to talk from Limnet that the plane landed in a Taliban-controlled area of Pakistan.

Has there been any new data about the last connection with mobile phones, or the sighting off the Maldives?

[Luther Blissett]

Last night I saw the article about the message from the IBM guy. I thought I'd try a bit of detective work, so downloaded IrfanView image editing program - it has an option that enables you to see the GPS data encoded into the jpeg file and you then click 'Google Earth' and you are taken to where the photo was taken. Which in this case appeared to be Diego Garcia. I spent a while looking for a way to associate GPS data with a random image but could not find one - all the programs I found were about reading EXIF data rather than spoofing it.
There is a facebook page for Philip Wood from his partner, where they refer to the pic as a cruel hoax. I didn't want to ask about it.
They referred to talk from Limnet that the plane landed in a Taliban-controlled area of Pakistan.

Has there been any new data about the last connection with mobile phones, or the sighting off the Maldives?

I'm about 97% certain that a dark photo was taken at Diego Garcia and posted to 4chan by someone. Editing exif data is possible, but as far as I know it most likely has to be done from a computer, not spoofed from a phone. There may be an application out there that does it, but I am unaware.

I read the exif data myself when the photo was first posted and was shocked to see the coordinates point to that shed at Diego Garcia on google earth when I entered them. The data also indicates that the photo has not been edited.

[Nordic]

The part of that story I find to be the most implausible is that the guy claims to have hidden an iPhone 5 up his butt.

Also why would the photo by utterly black. Why not use a flash? It's not like they wouldn't already be watching the prisoners with infrared cameras, so it's not like a flash would really expose them in any way.

But who knows. The whole story is so over-the-top that nothing would be terribly surprising at this point.

[MacCruiskeen]

The part of that story I find to be the most implausible is that the guy claims to have hidden an iPhone 5 up his butt.

True. He literally pulled that story out of his ass.

Also why would the photo by utterly black.

Why indeed. Utterly brown would have made more sense.

Lord Balto sums up:

Some character with a hood over his head is supposed to have posted this via his iPhone from Diego Garcia to 4Chan. Gimme a break. 4Chan? Do IBM execs really post to 4Chan? When their lives are at stake? What is this, Internet Delusional Syndrome?

[Zombie Glenn Beck]

[Lord Balto]

Quoted without comment:

From PPRUNE (http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news-13/):

As many of us have felt from early on in this drama, the fact that whatever aberration occurred happened right at the FIR boundary is a bit too coincidental.
Malaysian ATC says essentially "good-bye" and starts to pay attention to other flights, and HCM (SGN) will be expecting you eventually, but would not be staring at their screens until the call-in from MH370 happened. So at that moment, MH370 becomes electronically invisible (at least much harder to see), takes a hard left turn, and essentially nobody sees it in real time from then on. Only careful tape review of Malaysian military radar tapes discovers the westward turn when looked at restrospectively.

Is it possible that something catastrphic happened at that exact point? Something catastrophic enough to knock out all comms, Mode C, but then the plane flies on for many hours more with course (and altitude?) changes...

I am trying to keep an open mind... here in America, there is almost a political push to make this a man-caused event rather than an accident. But the accident scenario starts to strain credulity.

[Lord Balto]

Another quote from PPRUNE::

Once upon a time, Gulf Air lost a Skyvan in the Gulf, not very far from Das Island, following a double engine failure.

The pilot did a successful ditching, and was picked up, along with his only passenger, from the top of the aircraft by a helicopter which was in the area and heard his Mayday. The aircraft sank shortly afterwards. The helicopter pilot had obtained a very good fix on its location; plus/minus 100m, say?

We wanted to recover the aircraft to find out exactly what had happened, especially the fuel cross-feed settings. The seabed was flat, sandy and quite shallow; about 30m is my recollection, but I can't remember.

We hired an oil industry service vessel equipped by Decca and capable of finding almost anything made of metal on the seabed, down to a large wrench.

We paid for 10 days searching by that expensive piece of kit, and they found nothing. After that time the magnesium in the engines would be trickling on to the sand, so we gave up.

With that experience, I have to say that finding any part of MH370, let alone the FDR and CVR is unimaginably difficult by comparison with our search, with the position uncertainly, great depth and seabed topography. Any success will be the result of very, very intelligent guesswork, a lot of experience of the ocean, and a huge dose of luck.

Which suggests why they have settled on this particular location. Because they will have a perfectly reasonable excuse why they will never find anything. Maybe it's just me, but this event is starting to take on a rather peculiar aroma.

[justdrew]

maybe it hit a drone, or rather, a drone hit it. (by accident?)

[8bitagent]

While all these Above Top Secret/C2C/Red Ice theories are fun, til something concrete comes along I'm guessing it's at the bottom of the ocean...along with bin Laden's corpse.

But wow...one month later, CNN has had 370 as their main story every day since March 7th, both on their site and on their tv show. With of course, the speculating at times
rivaling that of Godlikecreation's forum. Kudos to whoever said a month later, there'd still be no wreckage nor trace nor new clues. 370 has pretty much become an idea more
than anything. A figurative meta-plane, perhaps on a meta-island, symbolizing all para-mysteries.

[82_28]

While all these Above Top Secret/C2C/Red Ice theories are fun, til something concrete comes along I'm guessing it's at the bottom of the ocean...along with bin Laden's corpse.

But wow...one month later, CNN has had 370 as their main story every day since March 7th, both on their site and on their tv show. With of course, the speculating at times
rivaling that of Godlikecreation's forum. Kudos to whoever said a month later, there'd still be no wreckage nor trace nor new clues. 370 has pretty much become an idea more
than anything. A figurative meta-plane, perhaps on a meta-island, symbolizing all para-mysteries.

That's basically what I've been saying all along. I don't give a shit if I'm right or not, just that the story is in the mystery. It is running its course, but there is no solution to this. It is a double-bind that captivates. The "mystery" is in the captivation and we must look there. Like my commercial airline captain brother said a month ago -- aliens. I mean it and he meant it tongue in cheek, but it is impossible to lose track of an airplane like this. It essentially cannot happen.

[Lord Balto]

While all these Above Top Secret/C2C/Red Ice theories are fun, til something concrete comes along I'm guessing it's at the bottom of the ocean...along with bin Laden's corpse.

But wow...one month later, CNN has had 370 as their main story every day since March 7th, both on their site and on their tv show. With of course, the speculating at times
rivaling that of Godlikecreation's forum. Kudos to whoever said a month later, there'd still be no wreckage nor trace nor new clues. 370 has pretty much become an idea more
than anything. A figurative meta-plane, perhaps on a meta-island, symbolizing all para-mysteries.

That's basically what I've been saying all along. I don't give a shit if I'm right or not, just that the story is in the mystery. It is running its course, but there is no solution to this. It is a double-bind that captivates. The "mystery" is in the captivation and we must look there. Like my commercial airline captain brother said a month ago -- aliens. I mean it and he meant it tongue in cheek, but it is impossible to lose track of an airplane like this. It essentially cannot happen.

Sure it can happen. Have you heard about the recovery of Flight 19 and the missing PBM-5? I didn't think so. They are still looking for those planes 68 years later. The ocean is a vast place, and that assumes MH370 didn't disappear over land. Keep in mind that all the events of that day, with the single exception of the supposed final leg into the Indian Ocean, took place over Malaysian territory. If I were the suspicious type, I would speculate that all of their screwups and misdirections were just the Malaysians stalling for time, so when they finally came up with their final "explanation," they could claim it was too late to find anything, with all of the currents and winds to disperse any visible wreckage.