How Bad Is Global Warming?

[Ben D]

Oh good, perhaps it can be added to this list of AGW claims that look oh so alarming to the innocent, gullible, and ignorant...and who will pay willingly to be saved from this dreadful fate caused by them awful human beings...what a scam!

A Complete List Of Things Supposedly Caused By Global Warming

[Rory]

Wouldn't you know, Bendy has been lying with the same lies as used previously

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Iamwhomiam wrote:And more ignorance from our prime time waster, Bendy. And so it goes. Demanding responses from others while ignoring repeated requests to answer pertinent questions necessary to move the discussion along in an intellectual manner.


Try me, what part of the 0.8 degree of global warming do you want to question?

Global Warming = 0.8 degree C from 1880 to 2012

Planet Earth warms a mere 0.8 of one degree C and according to team CAGW, this is what this 0.8 degree C increase has caused...

Link...an ongoing compilation of the things that have been caused because the planet is 0.8 of a degree C warmer than it was...according to the CAGW believers...

Afghan poppies destroyed, African holocaust, aged deaths, poppies more potent, Africa devastated, Africa in conflict, African aid threatened, aggressive weeds, Air France crash, air pockets, air pressure changes, airport farewells virtual, airport malaria, Agulhas current, Alaskan towns slowly destroyed, Al Qaeda and Taliban Being Helped, allergy increase, allergy season longer, alligators in the Thames, Alps melting, Amazon a desert, American dream end, amphibians breeding earlier (or not), anaphylactic reactions to bee stings, ancient forests dramatically changed, animals head for the hills, animals shrink, Antarctic grass flourishes, Antarctic ice grows, Antarctic ice shrinks, Antarctic sea life at risk, anxiety treatment, algal blooms, archaeological sites threatened, Arctic bogs melt, Arctic in bloom, Arctic ice free, Arctic ice melt faster, Arctic lakes disappear, Arctic tundra lost, Arctic warming (not), a rose by any other name smells of nothing, asteroid strike risk, asthma, Atlantic less salty, Atlantic more salty, atmospheric circulation modified, attack of the killer jellyfish, avalanches reduced, avalanches increased, Baghdad snow, Bahrain under water, bananas grow, barbarisation, bats decline, beer and bread prices to soar, beer better, beer worse, beetle infestation, bet for $10,000, big melt faster, billion dollar research projects, billion homeless, billions face risk, billions of deaths, bird loss accelerating, bird populations dying, bird strikes, bird visitors drop, birds confused, birds decline (Wales), birds driven north, birds face longer migrations, birds on long migrations threatened, birds return early, birds shrink(Aus), birds shrink (USA), bittern boom ends, blackbirds stop singing, blackbirds threatened, Black Hawk down, blizzards, blood contaminated, blue mussels return, borders redrawn, bluetongue, brains shrink, bridge collapse (Minneapolis), Britain one big city, Britain Siberian, Britain's bananas, British monsoon, brothels struggle, brown Ireland, bubonic plague, Buddhist temple threatened, building collapse, building season extension, bushfires, butterflies move north, butterflies reeling, butterfly saved, carbon crimes, caribou decline, camel deaths, cancer, cancer deaths in England, cannibalism, cataracts, caterpillar biomass shift, cave paintings threatened, childhood insomnia, children's mental health, chocolate shortage, Cholera, circumcision in decline, cirrus disappearance, civil unrest, cloud increase, clownfish get lost, coast beauty spots lost, cockroach migration, cod go south, coffee threatened, coffee berry borer, coffee berry disease, cold climate creatures survive, cold spells, cold spells (Australia), colder waters (Long Island), cold wave (India), cold weather (world), cold winters, computer models, conferences, conflict, conflict with Russia, consumers foot the bill, coral bleaching, coral fish suffer, coral reefs dying, coral reefs grow, coral reefs shrink, coral reefs twilight, cost of trillions, cougar attacks, crabgrass menace, cradle of civilisation threatened, creatures move uphill, crime increase, crocodile sex, crocodiles driven from water, crops devastated, crop failures increase, cross-breeding, crumbling roads, buildings and sewage systems, cryptococcal disease, curriculum change, cyclones (Australia), damselflies forced back to UK, danger to kid's health, Darfur, Dartford Warbler plague, daylight increase, deadly virus outbreaks, death rate increase (US), death rate drop, deaths to reach 6 million, decades of progress at risk, Dengue hemorrhagic fever, depression, desert advance, desert retreat, destruction of the environment, dig sites threatened, disasters, diseases move north, diving reefs closed, dog disease, dozen deadly diseases - or not, drought, ducks and geese decline, dust bowl in the corn belt, dust doubles, earlier pollen season, Earth axis tilt, Earth biodiversity crisis, Earth crumbling, Earth dying, Earth even hotter, Earth light dimming, Earth lopsided, Earth melting, Earth morbid fever, Earth on fast track, Earth past point of no return, Earth slowing down, Earth spins faster, Earth to explode, earth upside down, earthquakes, earthquakes redux, El Niño intensification, end of the world as we know it, erosion, emerging infections, encephalitis, English villages lost, equality threatened, Europe simultaneously baking and freezing, eutrophication, expansion of university climate groups, extinctions (apes, human, civilisation, koalas, lizards, logic, Inuit, smallest butterfly, cod, penguins, pikas, polar bears, possums, walrus, tigers, toads, turtles, pandas, penguins, plants, ladybirds, rhinoceros, salmon, trout, wild flowers, woodlice, a million species, half of all animal and plant species, mountain species, not polar bears, barrier reef, leaches, salamanders, tropical insects, flowers) experts muzzled, extreme changes to California, fading fall foliage, famine, farmers benefit, farmers go under, farm output boost, farming soil decline, fashion disaster, fever, figurehead sacked, fir cone bonanza, fires fanned in Nepal, fish bigger, fish catches drop, fish downsize, fish deaf, fish feminised, fish get lost, fish head north, fish lopsided, fish shrinking, fish stocks at risk, fish stocks decline, five million illnesses, flesh eating disease, flies on Everest, flood patterns change, floods, floods of beaches and cities, flood of migrants, flood preparation for crisis, flora dispersed, Florida economic decline, flowers in peril, flowers wilt, flying squirrels move up, fog increase in San Francisco, fog decrease in San Francisco, food poisoning, food prices rise, food prices soar, food production increased, food safety affected, food security threat (SA), football team migration, forest decline, forest expansion, foundations threatened, foundations increase grants, frog with extra heads, frosts, frostbite, frost damage increased, fungi fruitful, fungi invasion, fungi rot the world, games change, Garden of Eden wilts, geese decline in Hampshire, genetic changes, genetic diversity decline, gene pools slashed, geysers imperiled, giant icebergs (Australia), giant icebergs (Arctic), giant oysters invade, giant pythons invade, giant squid migrate, gingerbread houses collapse, glacial earthquakes, glacial retreat, glacier grows (California), glaciers on Snowden, glacier wrapped, global cooling, glowing clouds, golf course to drown, golf Masters wrecked, grain output drop (China), grain output stagnating (India), grandstanding, grasslands wetter, gravity shift, Great Barrier Reef 95% dead, great tits cope, greening of the North, Grey whales lose weight, Gulf Stream failure, habitat loss, haggis threatened, Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome, harvest increase, harvest shrinkage, hay fever epidemic, health affected, health of children harmed, health risks, health risks (even more), heart deaths, heart disease, heart attacks and strokes (Australia), heat waves, hedgehogs bald, hibernation affected, hibernation ends too soon, hibernation ends too late, homeless 50 million, hornets, human development faces unprecedented reversal, human fertility reduced, human health risk, human race oblivion, human rights violations, hurricanes, hurricane reduction, hurricanes fewer, hurricanes more intense, hurricanes not, hydropower problems, hyperthermia deaths, hyphthermia deaths, ice age, ice sheet growth, ice sheet shrinkage, icebergs, icesheet tipping point, illegal immigration, illness and death, inclement weather, India drowning, infrastructure failure (Canada), indigestion, industry threatened, infectious diseases, inflation in China, insect explosion, insect invasion, insurance premium rises, Inuit displacement, Inuit poisoned, Inuit suing, invasion of alien worms, invasion of Antarctic aliens, invasion of Asian carp, invasion of cane toads, invasion of caterpillars, invasion of cats, invasion of crabgrass, invasion of herons, invasion of jellyfish, invasion of king crabs, invasion of lampreys, invasion of midges, invasion of pine beetles, invasion of rats (China), invasion of slugs, island disappears, islands sinking, Italy robbed of pasta, itchier poison ivy, Japan's cherry blossom threatened, jellyfish explosion, jets fall from sky, Kew Gardens taxed, kidney stones, killer cornflakes, killing us, kitten boom, koalas leaves inedible, koalas under threat, krill decline, lake empties, lake shrinking and growing, landslides, landslides of ice at 140 mph, large trees decline, lawsuits increase, lawsuit successful, lawyers' income increased (surprise surprise!), lawyers want more, legionnaires' surge, lives lost, lives saved, Loch Ness monster dead, locust plagues suppressed, lost $350 billion, low oxygen zones threaten sea life, lush growth in rain forests, Lyme disease, Major vegetation shifts, Malaria, Malaria decline, malnutrition, mammoth dung melt, mammoth ivory bonanza, mango harvest fails, Maple production advanced, Maple syrup shortage, marmots fatter, marine diseases, marine food chain decimated, Meaching (end of the world), Meat eating to stop, Mediterranean rises, megacryometeors, Melanoma, Melanoma decline, mental health decline, mental illness, methane emissions from plants, methane burps, methane runaway, melting permafrost, Mexican climate migrant flood, Middle Kingdom convulses, migration, migratory birds huge losses, microbes to decompose soil carbon more rapidly, milk production lost, minorities hit, monkeys at risk, monkeys on the move, Mont Blanc grows, monuments imperiled, moose dying, more bad air days, more research needed, mortality increased, mosquitoes adapting, mountain (Everest) shrinking, mountaineers fears, mountains break up, mountains green and flowering, mountains taller, mortality lower, Mubarak fall, murder rate increase, musk ox decline, Myanmar cyclone, narwhals at risk, narwhals suffocate, National Parks damaged, National security implications, native wildlife overwhelmed, natural disasters quadruple, neurological diseases, new islands, next ice age, NFL threatened, Nile delta damaged, noctilucent clouds, no effect in India, Northwest Passage opened, nuclear plants bloom, oaks dying, oaks move north, oblivion, ocean acidification, ocean acidification faster, ocean dead spots, ocean dead zones unleashed, ocean deserts expand, ocean salt extremes, ocean oxygen crisis, ocean waves speed up, Olympic Games to end, opera house to be destroyed, outdoor hockey threatened, owls turn brown, oxygen depletion zones, oyster herpes, ozone repair slowed, ozone rise, penguin chicks frozen, penguin chicks smaller, penguins in the dark, penguin populations devastated, penguins replaced by jellyfish, personal carbon rationing, pest outbreaks, pests increase, pets in danger, phenology shifts, pines decline, pirate population decrease, pirates run rampant, plankton blooms, plankton plummeting, plankton wiped out, plants lose protein, plants march north, plants move uphill, polar bears aggressive, polar bears cannibalistic, polar bears deaf, polar bears drowning, polar bears fewer cubs, polar tours scrapped, pollination halved, porpoise astray, profits collapse, psychiatric illness, puffin decline, pushes poor women into prostitution, rabid bats, radars taken out, rail network threatened, railroad tracks deformed, rainfall increase, rainforest destruction, rape wave, refugees, reindeer endangered, reindeer larger, release of ancient frozen viruses, resorts disappear, rice less fragrant, rice production fall, rice threatened, rice yields crash, rift on Capitol Hill, rioting and nuclear war, river flow impacted, river rerouted, rivers raised, road accidents, roads wear out, robins rampant, rocky peaks crack apart, roof of the world a desert, rooftop bars, Ross river disease, ruins ruined, Russia under pressure, salinity reduction, salinity increase, Salmonella, salmon stronger, sardine run unpredictable, satellites accelerate, school closures, sea level rise, sea level rise faster, sea snot, seals mating more, seismic activity, sewer bills rise, severe thunderstorms, sex change, sexual dysfunction, sexual promiscuity, shark attacks, sharks booming, sharks moving north, sheep change colour, sheep shrink, shop closures, short-nosed dogs endangered, shrimp sex problems, shrinking ponds, shrinking sheep, shrinking shrine, Sidney Opera House wiped out, ski resorts threatened, slavery, skinks impacted, slow death, smaller brains, smog, snowfall decrease, snowfall increase, snowfall heavy, snow thicker, soaring food prices, societal collapse, soil change, soil subsidence, songbirds change eating habits, sour grapes, soybean crop to drop, space junk increase, space problem, spectacular orchids, spider danger in UK, spider bites to increase, spiders getting bigger, spiders invade Scotland, squid aggressive giants, squid larger, squid population explosion, squid tamed, squirrels reproduce earlier, starfish sperm eaten by parasites, stingray invasion, storm damage costs rise, storms wetter, stratospheric cooling, street crime to increase, subsidence, suicide, sunset displaced, swordfish in the Baltic, Tabasco tragedy, taxes, tea flavour change, tectonic plate movement, teenage prostitution, terrorists (India), thatched cottages at risk, threat to peace, ticks move northward (Sweden), tides rise, tigers eat people, tigers drown, tomatoes rot, tornado outbreak, tourism increase, toxic bacteria, toxic seaweed, trade barriers, trade winds weakened, traffic jams, transport snarl, transportation threatened, tree foliage increase (UK), tree growth slowed, tree growth faster, trees grow too fast, trees in trouble, trees less colourful, trees more colourful, trees lush, trees on Antarctica, treelines change, tropics expansion, tropopause raised, truffle shortage, truffles down, truffles increase, turtles crash, turtle feminised, turtles lay earlier, UFO sightings, UK coastal impact, UK Katrina, Venice flooded, volcanic eruptions, volcanoes awakened in Iceland, walrus pups orphaned, walrus stampede, walruses come ashore, wars over water, wars sparked, wars threaten billions, wasps, water bills double, water shortage to increase vegetarianism, wave of natural disasters, waves bigger, weather out of its mind, weather patterns awry, weather patterns last longer, Western aid cancelled out, West Nile fever, whale beachings, whales lose weight, whales move north, whales wiped out, wheat rust in Syria, wheat yields crushed in Australia, wild boars thrive, wildfires, wind shift, wind reduced, winds stronger, winds weaker, wine - Australian baked, wine - harm to Australian industry, wine industry damage (California), wine industry disaster (US), wine - more English, wine - England too hot, wine -German boon, wine - no more French , wine passé (Napa), wine - Scotland best, wine stronger, winters in Britain colder, winter in Britain dead, witchcraft executions, wolverine decline, wolverines vanish, wolves eat more moose, wolves eat less, women cheat on vacation, workers laid off, World at war, World War 4, World bankruptcy, World-famous places threatened, World in crisis, World in flames, Yellow fever, zebra mussel threat, zoonotic diseases.

Acne, Africa hit hardest, African summer frost, agricultural land increase, Alaska reshaped, allergies increase, anxiety, Arctic tundra to burn, atmospheric defiance, bananas destroyed, beer shortage, bird distributions change, blizzards, boredom, brain eating amoebae, business opportunities, business risks, British gardens change, budget increases, cardiac arrest, cataracts, challenges and opportunities, cloud stripping, cremation to end, damages equivalent to $200 billion, dermatitis, desert life threatened, diarrhoea, disappearance of coastal cities, Dolomites collapse, drought in distant regions, drowning people, early marriages, early spring, Earth spinning out of control, Earth wobbling, evolution accelerating, extinctions (bats, pigmy possums, koalas, turtles, orang-utan, elephants, tigers, gorillas, whales, frogs,) fainting, fish catches rise, flames stoked, footpath erosion, glacial growth, global dimming, god melts, Gore omnipresence, Great Lakes drop, harmful algae, hazardous waste sites breached, high court debates, HIV epidemic, human health improvement, ice shelf collapse, jet stream drifts north, lake and stream productivity decline, lightning related insurance claims, little response in the atmosphere, Lyme disease, marine dead zone, Maple production advanced, mental illness (Alberta), migration difficult (birds), mountains melting, mudslides, oceans noisier, oyster diseases, ozone loss, Pacific dead zone, plankton destabilised, plankton loss, plant viruses, polar bears starve, psychosocial disturbances, popcorn rise, rainfall reduction, riches, rivers dry up, rockfalls, skin cancer, smelt down, snowfall reduction, stick insects, stormwater drains stressed, teenage drinking, terrorism, tree beetle attacks, trees could return to Antarctic, tree growth increased, tsunamis, tundra plant life boost, uprooted - 6 million, Vampire moths, violin decline, walrus displaced, war, war between US and Canada, water scarcity (20% of increase), water stress, water supply unreliability, weeds, white Christmas dream ends.

...and all because of a 0.8 degree C temperature change..

Btw, if anyone wants a good laugh, you should check out some of those links, they are hilarious. You could then post the most outrageous of them to lighten the presently very dour mood of some here created by the fear that all this doom and gloom stuff conjures up for those who can't see through the CAGW scam meant to foist a carbon taxing one world government on the people of planet Earth.

And reminders towards sanity from JR

Nordic wrote::drool2:

I hope I remember to never come back to this thread.



It's our fault for clicking on something titled like that and expecting any different.

What would you expect in threads with titles like:

I Gonna Beat You Upside Yo Head!

To Receive Righteous Asskicking, Click Here!!!

You're Stupid! Last Night Yo Mama Said So!

Etc.

Oh, and:

I WIN!!! Peace and Love Y'all. Ha ha, you're dead! Namaste!

Because that's what this is.

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Oh, what's this?

Re: Global Warming, eh?

Postby Rory » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:46 pm

You do know that this spurious laundry list was compiled by a factory part engineer - clearly an expert in climate science.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brignell

He has among his other 'hobbies', attacked the scientific study of the links between second hand cigarette smoke and lung cancer.

http://www.webcitation.org/5v5F96rKC

Power to the fucking people. Because, you know, defending big tobacco is the mark of a rebel who wants to save the lives of the common man.

And you know, spam posting this list is the mark of someone who is so confident in his argument that his doesn't need to back up, prove or remotely evidence their strongly held position.

Copy and paste - to victory!

Anyone that hasn't read that thread, and that thinks Bendy is anything other than a mendacious, bad faith actor, should do so.And have fun NAMASTE

[Ben D]

Rory....waving your hands and bad mouthing sources, etc., is sop for internet wacko agw alarmists, so it don't wash with me. Who cares who the messenger is if the data or information is valid and referenced. You don't have to be a Phd to compile a list of msm articles on wacko AGW claims and post them on the internet....they are linked to the publication so no one can claim they weren't real.

So Rory, back to the present discussion about the pause.....do you accept there has been about a 17 year pause in global warming according to UN IPCC approved Hadcrut4 data or no?

[slimmouse]

Just to repeat.

a 50 perent increase in a 0.000028% percent share of atmospheric content of CO2 amounts to what exactly?

Answer ; Not much.

So, Where exactly is this fine line of atmospheric equilibrium crossed?

Im calling horseshit. Its a whopping fucking trojan horse used to generate revenue for corporations, which is where most govenrnments of course spend our taxes.

Meanwhile, in the eyes of some AGW extremists, any kind denial of the whole fucking CO2 nonsense is being touted by the consensus as a new form of thought crime.

Fukishima belches death into the air as we speak, out of human control, and these pricks are warning us about an insignificant, miniscule increase in CO2 content????????????????

Seriously?????????????????/

[DrEvil]

Rory....waving your hands and bad mouthing sources, etc., is sop for internet wacko agw alarmists, so it don't wash with me. Who cares who the messenger is if the data or information is valid and referenced. You don't have to be a Phd to compile a list of msm articles on wacko AGW claims and post them on the internet....they are linked to the publication so no one can claim they weren't real.

So Rory, back to the present discussion about the pause.....do you accept there has been about a 17 year pause in global warming according to UN IPCC approved Hadcrut4 data or no?

I'm not Rory, but I hope that's okay - Can you spell 'Ocean'? You know, that stuff that covers 2/3 of the planet? Water is a great heat sink. Just because the surface warming has slowed down doesn't mean the warming has stopped, it's just going somewhere else.

[DrEvil]

Just to repeat.

a 50 perent increase in a 0.000028% percent share of atmospheric content of CO2 amounts to what exactly?

Answer ; Not much.

So, Where exactly is this fine line of atmospheric equilibrium crossed?

They don't know! That's the friggin' point. We could already have crossed it. Also, look up the butterfly effect (Ahh, who am I kidding, you're not going to, so here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect).

Im calling horseshit. Its a whopping fucking trojan horse used to generate revenue for corporations, which is where most govenrnments of course spend our taxes.

You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, do you? Who are these corporations raking in the AGW cash?

And most governments spend taxes on running the government. Schools, roads, libraries, cops, firefighters, park rangers, teachers, soldiers, welfare, food stamps, social services, regulatory bodies etc. You're very fond of throwing out vague statements like this with no facts and figures to back up your claims.

Meanwhile, in the eyes of some AGW extremists, any kind denial of the whole fucking CO2 nonsense is being touted by the consensus as a new form of thought crime.

If by thought crime you mean that the "AGW extremists" would like you to shut the fuck up with your lies and bullshit, then yes. At least post some sources for your bullshit claims.

Fukishima belches death into the air as we speak, out of human control, and these pricks are warning us about an insignificant, miniscule increase in CO2 content????????????????

Seriously?????????????????/

You're arguing that Fukushima is bad, so we should ignore global warming?

And you never replied to my question about chemtrails and where they fit in. That is what you were referring to with aluminum and barium, right?

[stillrobertpaulsen]

Everyone is ignoring the elephant in the room...there has been no increase in global temperatures in 17 years...

That elephant was addressed by yours truly back on page 47. I wasn't the only one to refute it either.

stillrobertpaulsen, anyone who takes the wacko SkS seriously deserves to be deceived...it's a AGW propaganda site.

I'm not interested in watching you move goalposts, BenD. If I were interested in playing that game, I could quote from a completely different source that's already been linked earlier in this thread which also refutes your cherry-picked argument that I'm sure you'll also object to. Bottom line: you said "Everyone is ignoring the elephant in the room" - I've proven that argument is false.

Btw, if you want to to be taken serious, please use actual IPCC approved data in future.

Wait, you're telling me if I want to be "taken serious" that IPCC approved data is the standard to abide by? The same IPCC whose data has lead them to issue report after report, year after year, that Global Climate Change is being caused by carbon dioxide emissions primarily through human industrial activity? Are you engaging in a double standard, or finally coming around to accepting the scientific consensus as reality?

[slimmouse]

Dr Evil,

Here's where I'm coming from.

What are the Global climate consequences of an increase from 0.000028 percent of CO2 in the atmosphere, by 50%. ?

I mean, could this truly be the real reason why we potentially sit on the cusp of civilisational apocalypse?

I want to know what youre intuitive senses tell you ?

Mine tell me that the C02 emmission explanation is all a load of horseshit.

Apparently, you appear to currently be sitting on the "dont know" post.

[stillrobertpaulsen]

Hey SRP

All of what you said. And I wouldnt hold us responsible. If everyone really fucking knew what was going on, their would be none of it.

For the sake of the human race, I hope you're right. But I haven't seen much rigorous scientific analysis to back up your point. I've seen nothing to indicate that aluminum or barium are melting the Arctic ice cap.

That aside, we're all collectively responsible, we're all part of the same paradigm. Upend the paradigm, change the way money works, then we might be having a different conversation. I just hope it isn't too late by the time we get around to doing that.

[slimmouse]

That aside, we're all collectively responsible, we're all part of the same paradigm. Upend the paradigm, change the way money works, then we might be having a different conversation. I just hope it isn't too late by the time we get around to doing that.

[/quote]

Absolutely.

We are collectively responsible. But few of us are responsible for the lies we fall for.

I mean seriously...

How do you make people believe that such a miniscule alteration of the earths atmosphere should require us all to pay for it?

Its a stroke of genius in some respects.

[Iamwhomiam]

So we've had a 180 parts per million increase in CO2 emmissions over the last 54 years and this is going to send the climate out of control?

Or, to put this into another mathematical perspective, the evidently indisputable fact is that that we have had 0.000018% increase in CO2 (as a percentage of the entire atmosphere)

I fully appreciate that this is a whopping 50% increase.

Nonetheless Im having a hard time buying it

Because to me, thats a 50 percent increase in a Gas who 54 years ago apparently formed a total , constituent 0.0000 28 percent of our atmosphere..

Which actually equates to what?

Not very much.

Id definitely be interested however in the percentage increases in the amounts of microparticulate Aluminium, along with Barium and other goodies that are in there within the same period.

To say nothing of the percentage increase in radiation bombardment - You know, Fukishima, Cell Towers, Wi-Fi etc.

Just to repeat.

a 50 perent increase in a 0.000028% percent share of atmospheric content of CO2 amounts to what exactly?

Answer ; Not much.

So, Where exactly is this fine line of atmospheric equilibrium crossed?

Im calling horseshit. Its a whopping fucking trojan horse used to generate revenue for corporations, which is where most govenrnments of course spend our taxes.

Meanwhile, in the eyes of some AGW extremists, any kind denial of the whole fucking CO2 nonsense is being touted by the consensus as a new form of thought crime.

Fukishima belches death into the air as we speak, out of human control, and these pricks are warning us about an insignificant, miniscule increase in CO2 content????????????????

Seriously?????????????????/

Well, I guess I'll have to do it. Seems no one else wants to expend the energy necessary. And who could blame them? Energy's not free, ya know. It's all been for naught and future efforts seem doomed to a similar fate.. Naysayers know no better and seem to cling to beliefs based upon fantasy or at best flawed science produced by flawed people, people more interested in self gratification than their fellow humans' plight.

Without caustic invective used to further derogatory comments referring to middle school science, math, research or reasoning, I have to ask, slimmouse, where did you find your figure for the percentage of carbon in our atmosphere? I'd really like to know.
I'd like to write them a letter.

All the more, I'm not buying it.
Seriously.



I'll reserve my remarks on your mention of barium until later; I must run some errands now. Have at least 2 more posts coming.

edited to add r to last you.

[slimmouse]

I got my percentages from an earlier graph posted by SRP.

What does " 400 parts prer million" represent to you as a mathematical percentage?

[Iamwhomiam]

I'm glad to answer you, slim, but please first provide a link to your source. I do hope you're not asking me to search for it.

[DrEvil]

Dr Evil,

Here's where I'm coming from.

What are the Global climate consequences of an increase from 0.000028 percent of CO2 in the atmosphere, by 50%. ?

I mean, could this truly be the real reason why we potentially sit on the cusp of civilisational apocalypse?

I want to know what youre intuitive senses tell you ?

Mine tell me that the C02 emmission explanation is all a load of horseshit.

Apparently, you appear to currently be sitting on the "dont know" post.

The atmosphere contains 0.039% carbon dioxide, not 0.000028% (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth). In the last 50 years or so we have upped the concentration of co2 by about 25%. It hasn't been this high in millions of years. Humans didn't exist last time it was this high (http://blog.ucsusa.org/400ppm-co2-mauna-loa-455).

My intuitive senses tell me to listen to the experts, and they're all saying I should be extremely worried.
(And judging by your sig line I'm not sure you should trust your own intuition too much. )

I'm not in the "don't know" camp either. Thought that was pretty obvious by now, but anyhow - yes I think AGW is real and caused by us, and we're fucked.

[Luther Blissett]

"Global Warming's Terrifying New Math" explains the consequences of present and future (based on energy reserves already on the books) levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, what that means and why. It's explained in terms of gigatons in the atmosphere, not proportions though.

Don't forget about the new greenhouse gases we create and subsequently discover, like perfluorotributylamine, with 7,000x the warming effect of CO2.

Climate change deniers are winning and have always been winning. Environmentalists and anti-pollution activists are never winning because for every incinerator or combustion engine stopped there are 10 more replacing it.