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911 Memorial Museum Master Thread

Postby elfismiles » Fri May 23, 2014 5:05 pm

Is there already a master thread for this site? Fingers crossed...

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MinM » 23 May 2014 16:41 wrote:
@pattonoswalt: I ordered the soufflé at the 9/11 Museum cafe and the kitchen just told me it "collapsed." Seems a little too convenient. Who benefits?


How I Got Kicked Out Of The 9/11 Museum

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Inside the 9/11 Museum (Getty Images)

The National 9/11 Museum opened to the public yesterday, with dozens of museum employees on hand to assist visitors through exhibits, numerous Red Cross workers and chaplains eager to help those who needed comfort, and at least three security guards who tracked me down and ultimately threw me out. For asking a single question.

President Obama dedicated the museum last week during a special ceremony open to politicians, victims' families and select members of the media. I was curious about it, because I wondered if the museum really was "as beautiful — at times, disturbingly so — as it is horrific," as the Post's Steve Cuozzo put it, and "emotionally overwhelming," as the NY Times' Holland Cotter declared. Jake and I had no luck in getting into the media previews (although he’d visited the museum when it was under construction), so when a friend offered his extra ticket for today's opening day, I took it.

Yes, the museum is very beautiful, well-laid out, enormous (10,000 square feet) and full of details. But it's also somewhat excruciating to walk through. You're forced to remember that bright, sunny day and how horrifically it unfolded. I was unemployed, so I was at home on the Upper West Side and saw what happened on TV. My dad was flying from Logan Airport to San Francisco and we had no idea what happened with him (luckily, his United flight was still on the tarmac, but it took forever for him to get through to call us). The burning smell drifted up to my neighborhood and I went to Fairway to buy water—other confused people had the same idea— and started to see people who had walked from their offices downtown, because the subways were shut down.

The photographs of victims will tear your heart out. The scale of the destruction, with the wrecked fire engines and World Trade Center elevator motor, is also distressing. The audio recordings are particularly harrowing, whether they document a 911 call from someone on the 106th floor or a survivor describing how he carried a quadriplegic coworker down the North Tower and didn't realize the extent of the attacks until he went to look for the South building and discovered it no longer existed.

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Inside the 9/11 Museum (Getty Images)

It's a very somber, reflective place. And even though I was curious about how some people felt about the museum, I decided against asking anyone questions, including a woman who fell and skinned her knee in the remains of the old WTC's foundation. But then I overheard part of an exchange at the most gut-wrenching portion of the exhibit.

In the heart of the museum, at the deepest level, you'll find the September 11, 2001 galleries with all the awful images and videos of the day. There's a warning in front of the entrance, "The exhibition may not be appropriate for visitors 10 years old and younger. Adults accompanying younger visitors should exercise discretion before entering." The more intense scenes, like people jumping out of the buildings, are in alcoves (there are tissues handy), but even in the main space, there's a succession of photographs of the burning towers and TV coverage from 9/11.

Towards the middle of the exhibit, I overheard some loud voices. A young woman was berating a middle-aged woman who was talking on the cellphone. The middle-aged woman moved herself—and her conversation—to a corner of the room, her light, almost jovial phone chatter echoing loudly around the room. Finally, she got off the phone, and the young woman, who appeared to be disgusted, called her "disrespectful." I approached the young woman and said, "Hi, I'm a reporter. I was wondering, what happened just now?"

The young woman began to answer, but then a security guard interrupted us, asking, "What are you? You're a reporter?" I said yes, and he told me, "You can't ask any questions. You have to go through the 9/11 Memorial people." I said okay and left the woman alone.

I continued to walk through the exhibit, and a second guard came up to me. "You're the reporter?" he said. "You can't ask questions here. You can't." I said I understood and reassured him I had only spoken to one person, and she seemed perfectly willing to talk.

I exited that exhibit and went to the bathroom. When I emerged, a third security guard—he appeared to be more senior-ranking because he was wearing a white shirt—pulled me aside. He inquired if I was the reporter. I said I was, and then he asked for my name and organization. I presented my NYPD-issued press credentials and he started to write down my name on a pad. Then he took a picture of my press card before saying, "I'm going to have to escort you out of the museum."

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Taking Jen Chung's info to place it on a "Do not allow inside museum" list (Gothamist)

"Really?" I asked. Yes, he explained, because reporters aren't allowed to ask questions at the museum—all press requests had to go through the media team. I pointed out that I only asked one person a question, and when I was asked—twice—to stop asking questions, I did. I then told him that the woman I spoke to had just been criticizing another museum goer for her phone use. But the guard said he had to follow the rules and make me leave.

As we traveled up one of the many escalators, the guard asked me, "If you were at a museum, wouldn't you ask for the museum's permission before asking someone a question?" "Well, if I were at an art museum," I replied, "and I was going to ask someone what they thought about a painting, no, I wouldn't ask for permission." He seemed to understand that, and then suggested, "You know, you should contact our press people—there's Michael—"

"Frazier," I supplied. "Yes, I've emailed him many times to request access to the museum. Never heard from him."

Last night we emailed Frazier, the Vice President of Communications for the 9/11 Memorial and Museum, to ask about the museum's policy regarding journalists. He told us, "If you go to our website, it clearly states that all media access has to be cleared through my office. I don't recall providing Mrs. Chung a pass for reporting purposes. Chung was welcome to join the countless of other reporters on the memorial plaza. Our security team acted accordingly per our guidelines and rules. It wasn't personal."

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Inside the 9/11 Museum (Getty Images)

The long list of rules and regulations for the 9/11 Memorial and Museum states,

Any apparent loitering or harassment of Memorial, Preview Site, or Memorial Museum visitors who do not wish to be interviewed, photographed or filmed will result in dismissal from 9/11 Memorial & Museum Property, at the sole discretion of 9/11 Memorial & Museum Staff...Credentialed members of the news media must receive prior written authorization from, and make advance arrangements with, the 9/11 Memorial & Museum’s Communications & Digital Media Department prior to their arrival. Authorized members of the news media will receive access to the Memorial Museum and the Preview Site for a specified period of time for reporting, which may include photography, videography, or audio recording.


I should have read the rules first, because my intention was not to ruin someone's moment in a hallowed space. But as a reporter, I'm curious about anything unusual happening around me. When a brazen museum-goer's cellphone conversation ruined someone else's experience, my first instinct was to find out more. If I hadn't identified myself as a reporter, I probably would have found out what happened, since the young woman was so infuriated at the cellphone lady and was willing to talk to me.

I don't believe my dozen words to her could be construed as harassment. Also, I got the message after I was asked by the two guards to stop asking questions. But to have a third guard waiting for me outside the bathroom?

Frazier explained to us that it wasn't possible to accommodate every media outlet during the media preview. He added, "If we were contacted before your visit today, we would have explained the right path now that we are open to the general public. Skirting our operations policy isn't the answer. Our security team acted accordingly... Again, it had nothing to do with your work. It had everything to do with the lack of authorization."

The guard who escorted me out of the building was apologetic, "I'm just trying to do my job." I understood and said, "I'm just trying to do mine, too."

Incidentally, the museum's rules also say that making cellular phone calls is prohibited inside the museum's exhibitions. As far as I know, the woman who was on her cellphone was allowed to remain in the museum.

http://gothamist.com/2014/05/22/911_mus ... orship.php



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Group That Claims 9/11 Was Inside Job To Distribute Truth Brochures At 9/11 Museum Opening
When the National September 11 Memorial Museum opens, a group will be protesting by passing out brochures that tell the truth about 9/11.
By Katie Rucke @katierucke | May 21, 2014

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(Click to expand) The official 9/11 Memorial brochure (left), pictured next to the fake brochure being disseminated by Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

When the National September 11 Memorial Museum in New York City opens to the public for the first time on May 21, groups arguing that the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001 were actually an inside job and that the Twin Towers collapsed as a result of a controlled demolition, will be outside handing out brochures to museum-goers that look nearly identical to the brochures the museum plans to hand out.

Instead of referring to the brochure as a “visitor guide for adults,” as the museum will, the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth opted to title their brochure a “visitor guide for truth seekers.”

The group says it created the brochures to educate the public on the myth of what happened on 9/11, since the government is trying to consecrate the validity of the “terrorist” story with the opening of the museum.

While the information inside the group’s brochures is quite different from the contents of the brochures provided by the museum, it may be hard for members of the public to notice the difference at first glance. Both brochures feature the same fonts and color schemes, which means a visitor to the museum may not realize he didn’t pick up the museum’s official brochure until he reads it.

The group says it decided to print the brochures and hand them out on the museum’s opening day and on Saturday because the September 11 Museum is an “elaborate, taxpayer-funded, public relations campaign to forever cement the fantastic claims of the official conspiracy theory into the history books.”

As museum visitors will be presented with “a first-rate ‘Madison Avenue’ account of September 11th that has served as the justification for two wars, demolished our national economy, and deprived us of our privacy and civil liberties,” members of the group say they felt it was necessary to share information they have discovered in the last decade or so that refutes the U.S. government’s story as to what happened that day.

It may be hard for some members of the public to accept that the U.S. government was behind the tragic events of Sept. 11, but the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth stress they are not pointing fingers at who is responsible for the crime quite yet. The group is asking that a real criminal investigation be conducted into what happened that day, since they say the group has “overwhelming evidence” of a cover-up.

“By printing thousands of educational flyers and distributing them via teams of AE911Truth volunteers at the memorial grounds entry, we can inform the public as to why the 9/11 Memorial Museum is largely a fraud,” the group said.

Included in the brochures is information that chips away at the arguments made by the U.S. government that the events of 9/11 were the result of a terrorist attack, and not an inside job, along with facts that the group hopes will prompt museum visitors to ask questions such as “Where are the exhibits of red/gray thermitic chips or the displays showing melted steel? Where are the photographs of the explosive ‘squibs’ – the videos showing WTC 7′s seven-second collapse? Where are the archived accounts of elevator rebuilds – the fleeing Ace Elevator mechanics – the wall plaques with quotes of the first responders citing countdowns and explosions?”

“If we can get the truth in front of the public, we can show the impossibility of the official story and why it has no good place in the world our children will inherit,” the group said.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/911-truthe ... ng/191179/
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Re: 911 Memorial Museum Master Thread

Postby 8bitagent » Sat May 24, 2014 6:29 am

I just wanna take a huge fucking dump at the 9/11 memorial. Where the fuck is the memorial for all the innocent Muslims the US government murdered in the
name of 9/11?
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Re: 911 Memorial Museum Master Thread

Postby 8bitagent » Sat May 24, 2014 6:39 am

Is there a point in the memorial where it tells you about how Ramzi bin alshidh was making collect calls from Germany calling Saudi intelligence attaches in San Diego living with FBI informants? Or how 60% of the money used for the 9/11 operation came from America's BFF "Golden Chain"? lol The 9/11 myth sickens me more every year
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Re: 911 Memorial Museum Master Thread

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat May 24, 2014 7:19 am

there should be a "no plane hit this building" display

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Re: 911 Memorial Museum Master Thread

Postby Searcher08 » Sat May 24, 2014 8:07 am

The 9/11 Museum did not appear in a vacuum - so I am very curious on the background of who the fuck are the people who funded it, designed it, run it?

The purpose of a system is what it does - and as shown very elegantly by the OP, one of the purposes of this 9/11 Museum system is
to prevent people asking questions.

Cui bono from the 9/11 Museum?

8bit, I share your reactions.
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Re: 911 Memorial Museum Master Thread

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat May 24, 2014 8:40 am

The Memorial Economy: Never Forget? It’ll Cost Ya

At Ground Zero, the Trade in 9/11 Tchotchkes is Going Strong

By Ian Volner | 09/06/11 8:45pm

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The Memorial Economy: Never Forget? Itll Cost YaBao, as his co-workers call him, is Cuban, looks to be in his mid 50s, and for the past month he’s been selling 9/11 souvenirs on the streets of Lower Manhattan. It’s tough work. Constantly hassled by police and shoved aside by irritable office types hurrying to work, he has to hope he can cadge the odd tourist out of the wandering droves that have come to gawk at Ground Zero and at the construction underway on the new World Trade Center.

Bao’s hustle is the same deployed by all his colleagues in the area, the local variant on the old hard sell: push one of his armful of limited-edition tribute booklets under the nose of a passerby, and then point to the rising spire of 1 World Trade just across Church Street. His patter is fairly impenetrable, but it’s the gesture that does the work, suggesting the action of a helpful tour guide. It stops the visitor just long enough for Bao to get into his pitch.

Area regulars have heard it only too often. “One of those guys came up to a friend of mine once,” said Joe Daniels, “told her it was 10 bucks for the flipbook, and said five gets donated to the 9/11 memorial. And that’s just not true.” Mr. Daniels would know. He’s the president of the National September 9/11 Memorial & Museum Foundation, the group behind the commemorative complex of reflecting pools and leafy oak groves that’s set to be dedicated in time for the 10th anniversary of the attacks. In 2009, Mr. Daniels’s organization opened a preview gallery on Vesey Street, to give the public an advance look at the memorial. They knew right away that it would entail a retail component, a place offering tasteful Sept. 11 memorabilia as “a legitimate alternative” to the street trade.

Not to leave it entirely in the hands of the consumer, the Memorial & Museum Foundation and the unaffiliated 9/11 Tribute WTC Visitor Center nearby—which also runs a gift shop out of its Liberty Street location—have taken steps to discourage the tchotchke trade in the surrounding neighborhood. “We work closely with the Police Department, and like many others we want those [sellers] to go away,” says Mr. Daniels. The pressure seems to be working. In recent years, vendors claim the First Precinct has come down hard on unpermitted merchants, and made life sufficiently unpleasant even for documented ones that most have moved on. Gone are the tables laden with flags and patriotic paperweights that sprang up after Sept. 11, 2001.

They’ve been replaced by mobile booklet hawkers like Bao, toward whom the NYPD is obliged to take a somewhat more liberal attitude. “There are certain rules having to do with free speech,” Mr. Daniels points out, and the sale of books can’t be so easily prosecuted as the sale of statuettes. Most of the time, Bao and the rest just flash an inquiring officer a laminated badge with their tax I.D. number, and after a brief harangue about obstructing pedestrian traffic, they’re left alone. Almost anyone can sell a book, just as almost anyone can write one. No one owns a trademark on 9/11.

The memorabilia business has been around as long as there have been ruins to memorialize. In the 18th century, French and English aristocrats making the Grand Tour of Europe would stop in at Paestum, Rome, and at the newly discovered Pompey, returning home with a bit of a column, a bag of potsherds, fragments from a fresco. These they would mount in their salon d’honeur, to show them off to guests as evidence of their worldly wisdom: the grandeur of antiquity accruing to the household by association. The sidewalk sellers at Ground Zero aren’t too unlike the cicerone guides of old, conducting starry-eyed out-of-towners through the rubble to the point of sale. But these days, the real souvenir action is not on site at all. For that, as for so much else in the 21st century, you have to go to eBay.

There, on any given day, you can find such treasures as the six-inch “REMEMBER SEPT. 11 TWIN TOWERS HONOR REPLICA,” featuring all the original outbuildings of the old World Trade, though oddly detailed with a sinister conical spike protruding from top of the southern tower. Bids start at $15.

Those preferring something a little more discreet may want to consider the as-new Twin Towers snow globe that plays Frank Sinatra when you turn it upside down. (“Beautiful memento of tragic day in history.”) But the ultimate for the musically inclined would have to be the “Dave Mathews Band” (sic) concert T, bearing the uncanny legend “Sept. 11, 1999” over an image of the pre-attack skyline. Combining the absolutely eerie with the vaguely confusing, this one, the seller notes, “should be in the ownership of a true Dave Mathews Fan.”

The thing about these items, as about the whole business of memorabilia connected with 9/11, is that it’s only too easy to hang one’s head and groan at it all. Unlike our 19th century forebears, we can’t actually grab a hold of pieces of the wreckage, and so we have to make up for that lack with synthetic substitutes, with merchandise. And the scale and intensity of American consumer culture affords a perfect opportunity for a mass profusion of the sincere, the mawkish and the crass to take hold. As George Carlin once said, in this country, “If you nail two things together that have never been nailed together before, some schmuck will buy it from you.”


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Re: 911 Memorial Museum Master Thread

Postby 82_28 » Sat May 24, 2014 2:37 pm

Wow. It's for profit and everything? I was in NYC several years ago and my girlfriend and hosts got upset that in their busy shopping day I wanted to go see the pits. I did see it, but it's amazing the amount of disconcern of at least visiting this place so etched into our collective memory. I like the attempts of the people with the alternate guide. I do assume that someday soon somebody in that group will get beaten up by some yokel tourist.

I got into an argument with my basically liberal parents last night about the war crime of dropping atom bombs on civilians and carpet bombing of Dresden's citizens. They were having nothing of it. All I said is perhaps they need a refresher course and to read Slaughterhouse Five again and then move onto the People's History by Zinn, then they will be reminded. It didn't get too heated. Just Jesus, how even liberal people refuse to admit all wars are crime. Up and down, sideways and temporally, all wars are crimes and are for profit. Yet, they still argued.
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Re: 911 Memorial Museum Master Thread

Postby thatsmystory » Sun May 25, 2014 2:57 am

(CNN) – The National September 11 Memorial Museum opens to the public this week in lower Manhattan, and some conspiracy theorists, who are apparently no strangers to Photoshop, plan on attending.

The group "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth" plan on standing outside the entrance on opening day to hand out fake museum brochures, designed to look exactly like the real ones, according to The Village Voice, which first reported the story.

Inside the brochure, they claim they've compiled "a vast amount of evidence proving that all 3 World Trade Center skyscrapers were deliberately destroyed by explosives on 9/11."

They actually don't prove anything, except man's capacity for believing crazy things, and man's insensitivity to the families of the 2,753 people killed in New York, the Pentagon, and in a field in Pennsylvania, killed by Islamic terrorists with al Qaeda as every credible investigation has actually proven.

Why do so-called "truthers" have such staying power?

Slate editor and New York Times Magazine contributor Emily Bazelon weighs in.

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/19/truthers-to-protest-911-museum/


The credibility of US journalists is never up for review. US journalists stood by as the government refused to declassify a section in the JI report which details foreign state involvement. US journalists completely failed to get an explanation for deliberate withholding of information about al Qaeda suspects later named as two of the key hijackers in the plot. US journalists failed to interview the person who headed Alec Station when all sorts of weird shit went down. US journalists failed to interview the head of the FBI Bin Laden unit who obstructed the Cole investigation and then assigned the al-Hazmi/al-Midhhar investigation to one rookie agent and marked the case as routine. All theories aside US journalists have disgraced themselves with their 9/11 coverage. Sadly they don't seem to realize that their awful 9/11 journalism is disrespectful to the families of 9/11 victims.
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Re: 911 Memorial Museum Master Thread

Postby Searcher08 » Sun May 25, 2014 6:31 pm

thatsmystory » Sun May 25, 2014 6:57 am wrote:
(CNN) – The National September 11 Memorial Museum opens to the public this week in lower Manhattan, and some conspiracy theorists, who are apparently no strangers to Photoshop, plan on attending.

The group "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth" plan on standing outside the entrance on opening day to hand out fake museum brochures, designed to look exactly like the real ones, according to The Village Voice, which first reported the story.

Inside the brochure, they claim they've compiled "a vast amount of evidence proving that all 3 World Trade Center skyscrapers were deliberately destroyed by explosives on 9/11."

They actually don't prove anything, except man's capacity for believing crazy things, and man's insensitivity to the families of the 2,753 people killed in New York, the Pentagon, and in a field in Pennsylvania, killed by Islamic terrorists with al Qaeda as every credible investigation has actually proven.

Why do so-called "truthers" have such staying power?

Slate editor and New York Times Magazine contributor Emily Bazelon weighs in.

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/19/truthers-to-protest-911-museum/


The credibility of US journalists is never up for review. US journalists stood by as the government refused to declassify a section in the JI report which details foreign state involvement. US journalists completely failed to get an explanation for deliberate withholding of information about al Qaeda suspects later named as two of the key hijackers in the plot. US journalists failed to interview the person who headed Alec Station when all sorts of weird shit went down. US journalists failed to interview the head of the FBI Bin Laden unit who obstructed the Cole investigation and then assigned the al-Hazmi/al-Midhhar investigation to one rookie agent and marked the case as routine. All theories aside US journalists have disgraced themselves with their 9/11 coverage. Sadly they don't seem to realize that their awful 9/11 journalism is disrespectful to the families of 9/11 victims.


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Re: 911 Memorial Museum Master Thread

Postby 8bitagent » Mon May 26, 2014 11:08 am

82_28 » Sat May 24, 2014 1:37 pm wrote:Wow. It's for profit and everything? I was in NYC several years ago and my girlfriend and hosts got upset that in their busy shopping day I wanted to go see the pits. I did see it, but it's amazing the amount of disconcern of at least visiting this place so etched into our collective memory. I like the attempts of the people with the alternate guide. I do assume that someday soon somebody in that group will get beaten up by some yokel tourist.

I got into an argument with my basically liberal parents last night about the war crime of dropping atom bombs on civilians and carpet bombing of Dresden's citizens. They were having nothing of it. All I said is perhaps they need a refresher course and to read Slaughterhouse Five again and then move onto the People's History by Zinn, then they will be reminded. It didn't get too heated. Just Jesus, how even liberal people refuse to admit all wars are crime. Up and down, sideways and temporally, all wars are crimes and are for profit. Yet, they still argued.


I wrote on facebook today: "Oh gee, it's Memorial Day again. The day we have to politely pretend that America's elective whack-a-mole of allied gulf state funded jihadists is somehow on par with the men
who bravely fought off Nazi Germany and Japan from brutally taking over the world". But the real truth is, there was no excuse for firebombing tokyo or dropping the twin atom bombs. I mean the tokyo firebombings alone...thats fucking evil as shit. Of course I also believe WW2 was probably manipulated into being by dark forces of either a globalist or unknown origin.
I am glad to be have been raised by people who have an extreme hatred of war, the military and government. Because honestly, all this "God bless/freedom aint free/theyre over their fighting for our freedoms" is bullshit, everyone deep down knows it. And there really was no excuse for Iraq, Afghanistan or the war on terror/drone wars.

I mean Jesus Christ....Rumsfeld openly talks about how Bandar was in the Iraq operation planning with Cheney...despite the fact Prince Bandar's wife was sending some of the 9/11 hijackers money thru a Saudi intelligence liason.
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Postby 8bitagent » Mon May 26, 2014 11:12 am

thatsmystory » Sun May 25, 2014 1:57 am wrote:
(CNN) – The National September 11 Memorial Museum opens to the public this week in lower Manhattan, and some conspiracy theorists, who are apparently no strangers to Photoshop, plan on attending.

The group "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth" plan on standing outside the entrance on opening day to hand out fake museum brochures, designed to look exactly like the real ones, according to The Village Voice, which first reported the story.

Inside the brochure, they claim they've compiled "a vast amount of evidence proving that all 3 World Trade Center skyscrapers were deliberately destroyed by explosives on 9/11."

They actually don't prove anything, except man's capacity for believing crazy things, and man's insensitivity to the families of the 2,753 people killed in New York, the Pentagon, and in a field in Pennsylvania, killed by Islamic terrorists with al Qaeda as every credible investigation has actually proven.

Why do so-called "truthers" have such staying power?

Slate editor and New York Times Magazine contributor Emily Bazelon weighs in.

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/19/truthers-to-protest-911-museum/


The credibility of US journalists is never up for review. US journalists stood by as the government refused to declassify a section in the JI report which details foreign state involvement. US journalists completely failed to get an explanation for deliberate withholding of information about al Qaeda suspects later named as two of the key hijackers in the plot. US journalists failed to interview the person who headed Alec Station when all sorts of weird shit went down. US journalists failed to interview the head of the FBI Bin Laden unit who obstructed the Cole investigation and then assigned the al-Hazmi/al-Midhhar investigation to one rookie agent and marked the case as routine. All theories aside US journalists have disgraced themselves with their 9/11 coverage. Sadly they don't seem to realize that their awful 9/11 journalism is disrespectful to the families of 9/11 victims.


I don't know why the truthers still focus on the controlled demo meme...because we know what we can prove: America's BFF fuck buddy Saudi Arabia pretty much provided the financing, flight school selection, plane tickets, credit cards, etc to the hijackers. And that's scarily just what we do know. Yet this elephant in the room is lost on the public and narrative. Wouldnt be surprised if Saudi royals donated to the Memorial. Look at the paycheck of any of these al Qaeda/Sunni jihadist proxy groups and it's always Saudi Arabia and or other oil rich gulf states. The "US", contrary to popular truther fiction, can't outright finance these guys. Need that plausible deniability.

Ultimately tho, as I pointed out earlier the whole 9/11 memorializing is maddening given wayyy more innocent Muslims were killed by or because of the US military "avenging" 9/11.
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Postby Searcher08 » Wed May 28, 2014 10:04 am

Who are the people running it?
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Postby NeonLX » Wed May 28, 2014 11:23 am

Ultimately tho, as I pointed out earlier the whole 9/11 memorializing is maddening given wayyy more innocent Muslims were killed by or because of the US military "avenging" 9/11.


Well...yeah, but they were Muslims, don'tcha see?

I'm so sick of my "liberal" friends justifying Afghanistan and Iraq as a result of 9/11. The stupid fvckers have swallowed the whole goddamn thing. And I'm "weird" for even asking a question.

You can question the gubbmint when the other party's person is in the preznit's office, but you can't when your person is squatting in there.

I'm so damned sick of this country.
America is a fucked society because there is no room for essential human dignity. Its all about what you have, not who you are.--Joe Hillshoist
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Re: 911 Memorial Museum Master Thread

Postby elfismiles » Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:27 pm

Wonder if this is true and if so, how long it'll last...

9/11 Truth Art Accepted into 9/11 Museum
November 17, 2014
by Derrick Broze

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Artist Anthony Freda officially had his art “Questions” accepted into the official 9/11 Memorial Museum. Anthony Freda Studio‘s met with officials in late October to submit the controversial piece of artwork which includes the words “false flag” and “patsy”. Freda said he was thrilled to have the only piece of art in the official collection that questioned the official story of September 11, 2001.

http://therundownlive.com/truth-paintin ... m-gallery/
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