Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:47 pm

You just keep trying to hide your little Nazi-promoting mind behind the righteous cause of the moment that happens to be convenient for you. Right now there are thousands of articles to paste here rightly condemning the Israeli outrages and the systemic context.

You've show repeatedly that this is what you are really about, however:

As the Polish proverb says:

“The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you.”

Perhaps this should be modernised to:

“The Jew cries out in pain as he bombs you.”

SNIP

Why don’t we:

Fill one such large estate with Jewish residents who have been expelled from their desirable homes in Stamford Hill and Golders Green.
Hand over these homes to the erstwhile residents of the Council houses.
Enclose the Jews-only estate with a fence that cannot be breached.
Bomb them occasionally.
Only allow enough food into the estate to barely keep them alive.
Destroy most of their supplies of clean water.
Forbid them from trading with anyone outside their estate.
Call anyone they elect to representative them terrorists.
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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby bluenoseclaret » Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:16 pm

Evening Jack

Gaza...An Idea...

The desperate cry of Kevin Boyle.

Kevin used to post on the 9/11 forum. I don't think for a minute that he is personally racist.
Too naive and innocent.

The emotional and desperate cry. Is that a crime.

Let me introduce you to the real thing.....

Lt. Col. Peter Lerner - Israel Defense Forces Spokesman....The Voice Of Evil.
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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby Searcher08 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:35 pm

Was this directed to bluenoseclaret or to me??
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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby coffin_dodger » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:14 pm

This thread is about to degenerate into shit. Lock the fucker, please.

edited to ask more politely

edited again to add, I suppose this shit needs to be thrashed out somewhere - it might as well be here.
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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby Searcher08 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:38 pm

coffin_dodger » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:14 pm wrote:This thread is about to degenerate into shit. Lock the fucker, please.

edited to ask more politely

edited again to add, I suppose this shit needs to be thrashed out somewhere - it might as well be here.


As soon as AD posted his thread-derailing off-topic ad hominem, locking was guaranteed.
If a MOD wants to lock, please wait till I get a reply from Mr Riddler, ta.
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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby bluenoseclaret » Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:08 pm

A PALESTINE THAT ISRAELIS CAN’T SEE

Israel’s 10-meter high separation barrier and the country’s decades of indoctrination have blocked its view and allowed Israelis to simply stop seeing real live Palestinians — decidedly alive, even if not well, and determined to live normal lives.

A Palestine That Israelis Can’t See

How Does an Unsustainable Situation Keep On Going?


By Sam Bahour

"The status quo in Palestine and Israel is unsustainable. Anyone involved in the reality on the ground in this part of the world knows this for a fact. As such, one can view the current Palestinian bid to the United Nations General Assembly for non-member state status as a last-ditch effort by the secular Palestinian leadership to save whatever may be remaining of the two-state paradigm as the basis to ending Israel’s 45 years of military occupation.

A significant driver of the current political paralysis is the stereotype, designed and propagated by Israelis, that Palestinians living on the other side of the separation barrier are violent and not deserving of freedom or independence. As such, most Israeli Jews do not see Palestinians as equal human beings, and thus any violent action against them becomes justified, no matter how cruel, illegal or in contradiction of Jewish values.

Nearly all Palestinians on the receiving end of this stereotype miraculously wake up every morning and — beyond doing their utmost to sustain a livelihood under miserable conditions — somehow remain focused on working toward realizing a future free of military occupation.

This stereotype, spread by Israeli authorities to foreign audiences and, sadly, inculcated through Israel’s state education system, is that any substantial relief or complete removal of the 45 years of Israeli military occupation of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem and Gaza, would result in a security risk. A similar fear-mongering strategy is used to dismiss the inalienable right of Palestinian refugees to return to Israel. In the meantime, Israel makes matters worse on the ground by, for example, continuing to build illegal, Jewish-only settlements.

Foreign countries, donors and international organizations have come around, albeit belatedly, to noting in their reports that the status quo is unsustainable. The data is there, in dizzying detail, for all to read.

Additionally, newspapers of record in Israel, France and America have started to editorialize with some hard questions, such as “Can Israel really be a Jewish (only) state?” and “Is a two-state solution still possible?” More recently, even The New York Times questioned the future of Israel’s democratic character when it noted in an editorial: “One of Israel’s greatest strengths is its origins as a democratic state committed to liberal values and human rights. Those basic truths are in danger of being lost.” Human rights aside, there is no doubt that Israel is at a foundational crossroads.

The dominant narrative, especially in the United States — that any change in the status quo would put Israel in existential danger — is one that Israel has sustained for decades, spending hefty amounts on professional public relation firms and masters of spin to disseminate this message. Listening to world leaders and consuming today’s corporate media, the average person would have a hard time reaching a different conclusion.

Enter reality.

Israel’s 10-meter high separation barrier and the country’s decades of indoctrination have blocked its view and allowed Israelis to simply stop seeing real live Palestinians — decidedly alive, even if not well, and determined to live normal lives.

They can’t see an army of telecommunication engineers and call center operators struggling to create a commercially viable network with a full suite of services even though the needed, imported equipment is routinely delayed — at times for years — at Israeli ports.

They can’t see an army of youth pocketing the latest 3G-enabled smartphones that are useless because the electromagnetic spectrum required to operate a 3G network is controlled by the Israel military, and therefore use of 3G frequencies — like pasta and crayons in Gaza, not long ago — is prohibited by Israel.

They can’t see the dozen or so business incubators that host innovative entrepreneurs, many of them women, who routinely pitch their ideas to investors and enter their business plans in competition, only to be vulnerable to failure because of the innumerable structural impediments imposed by the Israeli occupation.

They can’t see the 18 banks and half-dozen or so equity capital funds that, day in and day out, seek viable businesses to invest in, only to end up with more funds than this militarily occupied market can absorb. They can’t see the enthusiastic young men and women at the Hereditary Research Lab at Bethlehem University exploring the genetics of hearing loss and breast cancer.

They can’t see hundreds of parents — yes, mothers and fathers — holding their children’s hands as they lead them to watch the performances of the Palestinian Circus School or Al Kamandjâti music school.

They can’t see bank investment committee members toiling with the moral dilemma of financing projects in the besieged Gaza, when nothing in their formal education ever prepared them for the market risk of societal collapse that they must calculate into their decisions every day.

They were blind to the excitement and grassroots campaigning across cities and villages in the occupied Palestinian territory as West Bank residents recently went to the polls, again, for municipal elections.

Most important, they also can’t see something much more serious than any of this — that the Israeli status quo, built on a cruel collective indifference, and the false glow of a rigged prosperity in which the Israeli public is basking can lead to only one outcome: collapse.

Socially, economically and definitely politically, Palestinians will not, and cannot, take any route other than reducing their efforts to build their state and redoubling their efforts toward ridding themselves of the Israeli boot of occupation pressing on their necks. Even if successful in attaining non-member state status in the U.N., the upgraded status will be used as a tool of resistance to terminate this doomed occupation once and for all.

Israelis may be living in utter denial of the peculiar and unsustainable reality they have created by the sheer might of force — but this is no excuse for the rest of the world, especially the United States, not to wake up and realize that ending the occupation has the potential to release a tremendous amount of positive energy in the Palestinian community — a necessary energy for a party to negotiate in good faith as it rebuilds its society from the ruins of decades of destitution.

Ending this military occupation, at long last, will not totally resolve the conflict. Yet in light of current trends putting Israel on a collision course with history, arranging for Palestinians to reach the point where they have real authority over their affairs would be a huge step forward, one that could save many lives on both sides of the Wall."


http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/
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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:47 pm

Searcher08 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:35 pm wrote:Was this directed to bluenoseclaret or to me??


Obviously to bluenoseclaret. Why you would feel it would be to you is a question you'll have to consider on your own.
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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby Searcher08 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:51 pm

JackRiddler » Sun Aug 03, 2014 1:47 am wrote:
Searcher08 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:35 pm wrote:Was this directed to bluenoseclaret or to me??


Obviously to bluenoseclaret. Why you would feel it would be to you is a question you'll have to consider on your own.


Not so obviously at all. If a post is not addressed to the previous one, there is usually an indication, eg an @Jack
I considered it because for me at least you framed it ambiguously, which is why I sought a clarification.
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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:55 pm

but I thought blue had only one cause here....doesn't everyone? whereas Searcher is all over the place :) hence the righteous cause of the moment


the righteous cause of the moment that happens to be convenient for you.


Jack you start pouring salt...posting a link to Solace calling me
Maybe someone broke his" Death to the Jews" placard at the latest protest and it threw him for a loop..

Or maybe he's still just an antisemitic fuck like always
and I'm supposed to ignore it?
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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:08 pm

seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:55 pm wrote:
Jack you start pouring salt...posting a link to Solace calling me

Maybe someone broke his" Death to the Jews" placard at the latest protest and it threw him for a loop..

Or maybe he's still just an antisemitic fuck like always
and I'm supposed to ignore it?


This is insane. You're liable to think ANYTHING is about you! I avoid addressing anything to you because of your exaggerated, endless reactions, and you STILL think it. I have you on ignore, by the way (which means I can still see your stuff when I click). Do the same with me and we can both be much happier.

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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby DrEvil » Sun Aug 03, 2014 1:27 am

Uh, solace is calling bluenoseclaret an anti-Semitic fuck.
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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby Luther Blissett » Sun Aug 03, 2014 1:29 am

I'm having trouble posting the article in full, so here's a link:
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists ... -go-368862

Pretty serious stuff found on Naomi Wolf's fb page.
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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby 82_28 » Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:36 am

Stephen Hawking is out of this genocidal bullshit and declined to attend some conference. But boy when I see netanyahoo, I am "casually" outraged -- since I am on the other side of the planet. That guy is the biggest cocksucker ever, He, Putin and Cheney must be in some kind of a contest.

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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby brainpanhandler » Sun Aug 03, 2014 12:16 pm

seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:55 pm wrote:
Jack you start pouring salt...posting a link to Solace calling me
Maybe someone broke his" Death to the Jews" placard at the latest protest and it threw him for a loop..

Or maybe he's still just an antisemitic fuck like always
and I'm supposed to ignore it?


Solace was responding to a post jack had made about something that Bluenosefuckwad had posted. It had nothing to do with you.

Here is the page you need to reread:

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... =8&t=38255

And then you should admit your error. And then you should look in the mirror and, well.... oh fuck it....

I wish we could ban crazy people.
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Re: Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

Postby brainpanhandler » Sun Aug 03, 2014 12:18 pm

And here's a preemptive yah, yah, yah, Blah, blah, blah. Whatever.
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