James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

[Elvis]

I must note that this whole recent Mideast narrative, country by country, is sooo following the plan laid out in PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses." Question is, exactly who are the fuckers pulling the strings and poking the hornets?

[82_28]

I must note that this whole recent Mideast narrative, country by country, is sooo following the plan laid out in PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses." Question is, exactly who are the fuckers pulling the strings and poking the hornets?

That's the thing that they are well aware of and you can tell by the amount of bullshit. It doesn't point at anything other than "them". I feel "they" relish this opportunity because they have to stop "pussyfooting" around in this "modern age". The element of surprise is no longer in play. The element of speculation is what they have decided to roll with in order to create a perfect fascist state in decline in which we will all believe the next chapter. Then there will be surprise. But they know that nobody into this kind of shit will ever possibly buy it. Nuke an American city or some shit. How will that go over as far as official narrative?

I see you, dicks. I know you're there and spend time on this "backwater forum" and also do other stuff. But we see you and do not approve of your methods.

[8bitagent]

I must note that this whole recent Mideast narrative, country by country, is sooo following the plan laid out in PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses." Question is, exactly who are the fuckers pulling the strings and poking the hornets?

That's the thing that they are well aware of and you can tell by the amount of bullshit. It doesn't point at anything other than "them". I feel "they" relish this opportunity because they have to stop "pussyfooting" around in this "modern age". The element of surprise is no longer in play. The element of speculation is what they have decided to roll with in order to create a perfect fascist state in decline in which we will all believe the next chapter. Then there will be surprise. But they know that nobody into this kind of shit will ever possibly buy it. Nuke an American city or some shit. How will that go over as far as official narrative?

I see you, dicks. I know you're there and spend time on this "backwater forum" and also do other stuff. But we see you and do not approve of your methods.

Ok, but still, to they "They're" credit...it's been kind of creative and out of left field. I can CLEARLY draw back like it was yesterday to alternet liberal/truther frameworks of the 2004-2006 era, and I tell yeah...never imagined
we'd see in the scripted kabuki narrative a "group that even al Qaeda declares as too extreme" taking over large swaths of land and being the catalyst to draw the US into war again. I'm now seeing anti war liberals in the wake of the beheading vid/Yazidi massacres/Kurd massacres saying "Well maybe we do need to go in there", aka the "right war".

The mainstream media be it CNN, NBC, BBC, etc is all now saying yeah something is fishy as hell about the Foley video. But it's always with the caveat that Foley really was killed. Just not by BBC1 radio rapper jihadi dude.

I swear to go next month and into the fall we're gonna hear of some fucking crazy shit. Maybe a third Malaysia 777 will crash into international waters and everyone will be devoured by sharks controlled by ISIS?
It's actually been a relatively quiet Summer.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/boo ... rube_x.htm

We have seen weird Times in this country before, but the year 2000 is beginning to look super weird. This time there really is nobody flying the plane ... We are living in dangerously weird times now. Smart people just shrug and admit they're dazed and confused. The only ones left with any confidence at all are the New Dumb. It is the beginning of the end of our world as we knew it. Doom is the operative ethic.

The autumn months are never a calm time in America. Back to Work, Back to Football Practice, etc....Autumn is a very Traditional period, a time of strong Rituals and the celebrating of strange annual holidays like Halloween and Satanism and the fateful Harvest Moon, which can have ominous implications for some people.

Autumn is always a time of Fear and Greed and Hoarding for the winter coming on. Debt collectors are active on old people and fleece the weak and helpless. They want to lay in enough cash to weather the known horrors of January and February. There is always a rash of kidnapping and abductions of schoolchildren in the football months. Preteens of both sexes are traditionally seized and grabbed off the streets by gangs of organized perverts who traditionally give them as Christmas gifts to each other to be personal sex slaves and playthings.

[Byrne]

"Nordic » 25 Aug 2014 23:56]
Bryne! You're on a roll!

Good stuff.

Just me chiming in.

This is reminding me of the good old days of RI, or maybe they never really went away, hell if I know ...

Thanks Nordic, I post less on here these days, but I do like getting my research teeth stuck into things that need diggin at.

But wait, in the UK,, any such viewing/investigation of the Foley video may be illegal....

Thursday, 21 August 2014

Terrorism Law ~ Police warn that viewing terrorist material may be an offence ...

Over recent weeks horrific events have taken place in the Middle East. These events have included the murder (by decapitation) of journalist James Wright Foley who was captured in 2012. In many quarters, the word "execution" has been used. I prefer the word "murder" because that is precisely what it is. It is believed that the alleged killer is British - see The Guardian 21st August 2014. If that proves to be correct then he could be charged with murder and tried in an English court - Offences against the Person Act 1861 s.9

A further sickening development was that the murder was filmed and the film posted on to the internet. Of course, it is beyond belief that any right-thinking decent person would wish to view such materia [true - the perfect proaganda video - no-one wants to watch it, just talk about it!!]l. Nevertheless, the Metropolitian Police saw fit to issue the following warning:

'We would like to remind the public that viewing, downloading or disseminating extremist material within the UK may constitute an offence under terrorism legislation.'

This prompted the leading writer on legal matters - David Allen Green - to question whether merely viewing this material could actually be an offence under terrorism law. Mr Green took the matter up with the Police. He published an article about this in his Times blog 21st August. Please read the article - Registration is required but it is free to do so.

It appears that the Police either could not or would not clarify the precise law under which mere viewing may be an offence though Mr Green states that sections 1 and 2 of the Terrorism Act 2006 were referred to.

more at:

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http://obiterj.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/terrorism-law-police-warn-that-even.html

[MacCruiskeen]

Club des Cordeliers
‏@cordeliers

Not expecting apologies from simpletons who called us "conspiracy theorists" for discussing obvious signs of forgery

https://twitter.com/cordeliers/status/5 ... 4998963200

[coffin_dodger]

^^ What, exactly, happens when no one believes the lies that 'glue it all together' any more? More mental disengagement, I suppose.

[2012 Countdown]

I have read this thread and was/am silently keeping up.
You see, I didn't want to watch the video, but knew someone here would and would also give a good look-see.
I am glad some of you did that, and as it appears, Nordic, you called it.

[MacCruiskeen]

On the pathetic performance of 'liberals' and the pseudo-left when faced with this obvious fakery:

Club des Cordeliers @cordeliers · 24. Aug.

To various self-styled Marxists, scrutiny of video propaganda coup acceptable only when it comes from official sources or bourgeois media.

https://twitter.com/cordeliers

Club des Cordeliers @cordeliers · 24. Aug.

Any suggestion that US might have intentions apart from the ones it states openly is now called a conspiracy theory.

Retweetet von Club des Cordeliers
د. كريستوفر ديفيدسون @dr_davidson · 25. Aug.

Unable to keep a handle on widespread social media debunking, the broadsheet editors will try to find a 'compromise' story on the video now.

Retweetet von Club des Cordeliers
Red Kahina @RedKahina · 17 Std
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I am SICK of people cowering in fear of being labelled conspiracy theorists for stating even what is the established historical record

How much fucking longer will so-called fucking progressives carry on cowering before this priceless tool of propaganda, and even deploying it themselves?

THE TERM ‘CONSPIRACY THEORY’

This phrase is among the tireless workhorses of establishment discourse. Without it, disinformation would be much harder than it is. “Conspiracy theory” is a trigger phrase, saturated with intellectual contempt and deeply anti-intellectual resentment. It makes little sense on its own, and while it’s a priceless tool of propaganda, it is worse than useless as an explanatory category.

http://qlipoth.blogspot.de/2007_07_01_archive.html

[Elvis]

I can't find anything about Foley's body being recovered. I didn't look very hard, but if his corpse was recovered, shouldn't news of that should be easy to find?

[8bitagent]

Now we have Syrian Islamists(I guess ISIS rival al Nursa Front) taking the Golan heights border with heavy fighting right next to the Israeli army. It's interesting because
Israel has treated wounded Syrian rebels, bombed Bashir Assad positions, and now we see the righting spill onto Israel's doorstep...RIGHT when war between Israel and Hamas ends.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/27/world/mea ... ?hpt=hp_t2

An Israeli military officer was moderately injured, the IDF said on Twitter, and Israeli forces responded by striking two Syrian military positions.

Wednesday's fighting marks at least the second time rebels have attacked the crossing.

[stillrobertpaulsen]

Why Journalist’s “Staged” Beheading Matters

By Bryson Hull on Aug 26, 2014



James Foley’s beheading made him into something no journalist wants to be: a part of the story.

Not only has his murder by ISIS terrorists made him part of the story, it has made the freelancer for GlobalPost a central figure in the story about America going back to war in Iraq.

In what has become a grim kabuki theater since the beheading of Daniel Pearl by al-Qaeda, Foley’s death was apparently recorded in high definition and broadcast globally on social media.

Now the question of whether Foley’s killing was staged for the cameras has arisen, the suggestion being that his murder took place off-camera. The analysis holds that his apparent beheading by a British-accented jihadi was merely a show. The big question is why, and why would that matter?

Let’s start off with one major premise that those stories missed. Foley’s death was absolutely staged for the cameras. The very nature of terrorism is that it is staged. What separates ordinary barbarity from terrorism is that the latter is by definition a gruesome performance art.

Terrorism is about headlines.

So why would ISIS fake it? Firstly, and it’s only speculation, is the possibility that Foley and his killers struck a deal: He reads their message to America clearly for maximum impact and plays along with the cameras in exchange for a quick death later.

What does ISIS gain from that? A huge propaganda victory that grabs the attention of the Western, and particularly, American, media. If they did negotiate a “humane death” in exchange for getting their message out, then it represents a whole other level of sophisticated evil. Ordinary terrorists operate in absolutes and don’t usually negotiate with a focus on perfecting their propaganda.

The sad part is that Foley is another victim in the post-9/11 war. He is perhaps even the victim of a second-generation jihadi, the son of a man involved in Osama Bin Laden’s bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998.

There is still a spate of coverage about his killing, including the analysis of his video, enduring and questionable criticisms about how freelancers like him face risks that staff journalists for big companies don’t, and the typical post-event questions about how President Obama handled the situation. There is even a debate on whether the U.S. should follow its European counterparts in paying ransoms to terrorists.

All of this ignores an elemental question about the news coverage of Foley’s deaths and others like his.

If terrorists derive power, propaganda value and even recruiting strength from the publication and media coverage of their atrocities, then are journalists who cover their unfortunately newsworthy atrocities encouraging the very people who target them for death?

[8bitagent]

So the theory now is, Foley seems to calm because he agreed to be shot in the head after he reads the message, and then off camera a different guy saws his head off? Given that if he knew he was going to be gruesomely decapitated alive, he would have screamed and fought? Interesting.

To Nordic or anyone who saw the full video, did the head at the end look like Foleys? Couldnt they have just placed another severed head on another body? If they staged the death in the uploaded video how do we truly know he died?

It hurts ISIS image if now speculation is that any part of the video was staged. Why was Foley so calm?

[BOOGIE66]

A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm



Following is a report prepared by The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies’
"Study Group on a New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000." The main substantive ideas in this paper
emerge from a discussion in which prominent opinion makers, including Richard Perle, James
Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Douglas Feith, Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and
Meyrav Wurmser participated. The report, entitled "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for
Securing the Realm," is the framework for a series of follow-up reports on strategy.

Israel has a large problem. Labor Zionism, which for 70 years has dominated the Zionist
movement, has generated a stalled and shackled economy. Efforts to salvage Israel’s socialist
institutions—which include pursuing supranational over national sovereignty and pursuing a
peace process that embraces the slogan, "New Middle East"—undermine the legitimacy of the
nation and lead Israel into strategic paralysis and the previous government’s "peace process."
That peace process obscured the evidence of eroding national critical mass— including a
palpable sense of national exhaustion—and forfeited strategic initiative. The loss of national
critical mass was illustrated best by Israel’s efforts to draw in the United States to sell unpopular
policies domestically, to agree to negotiate sovereignty over its capital, and to respond with
resignation to a spate of terror so intense and tragic that it deterred Israelis from engaging in
normal daily functions, such as commuting to work in buses.

Benjamin Netanyahu’s government comes in with a new set of ideas. While there are those who
will counsel continuity, Israel has the opportunity to make a clean break; it can forge a peace
process and strategy based on an entirely new intellectual foundation, one that restores strategic
initiative and provides the nation the room to engage every possible energy on rebuilding
Zionism, the starting point of which must be economic reform. To secure the nation’s streets
and borders in the immediate future, Israel can:
Work closely with Turkey and Jordan to contain, destabilize, and roll-back some of its
most dangerous threats. This implies clean break from the slogan, "comprehensive peace"
to a traditional concept of strategy based on balance of power.
Change the nature of its relations with the Palestinians, including upholding the right of
hot pursuit for self defense into all Palestinian areas and nurturing alternatives to Arafat’s
exclusive grip on Palestinian society.

Forge a new basis for relations with the United States—stressing self-reliance, maturity,
strategic cooperation on areas of mutual concern, and furthering values inherent to the
West. This can only be done if Israel takes serious steps to terminate aid, which prevents
economic reform.

This report is written with key passages of a possible speech marked TEXT, that highlight the
clean break which the new government has an opportunity to make. The body of the report is
the commentary explaining the purpose and laying out the strategic context of the passages.

Cont @ link

[BOOGIE66]

To Nordic or anyone who saw the full video, did the head at the end look like Foleys? Couldnt they have just placed another severed head on another body? If they staged the death in the uploaded video how do we truly know he died?

It looks like a head.

[8bitagent]

Apparently, while still affirming they are the "Islamic State" since they are forever now known in the west as "ISIS", they are using that name to promote themselves online.

On the heels of a beheading video in front of a Mosul mosque and the execution of hundreds of Syrian fighters(hey, the US wanted a proxy army to take down Bashir? Well they got one now)
ISIS is now apparently threatening Chicago, with someone in Chicago uploading photos inside the city
http://www.inquisitr.com/1432737/isis-t ... st-threat/

So is ISIS also becoming some sort of twisted Anonymous/Wearelegion, Laughing Man type thing?