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RocketMan » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:08 am wrote:I'm not really certain whether Scotland would be better off independent but I intuit that is the case and am giddy at the prospect. It's also a tragi-comic spectacle of watching those establishment bastards contort themselves in knots trying to argue why self-determination in THIS case is a base evil when in other parts of the world it is the subject of aspirational, kitschy, sentimental blathering by the western elites.
RocketMan » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:08 am wrote:Also, how does one pronounce McCruiskeen in a Scottish accent? I image it going something like MACKRRRRRROOOOEEISSSSCHKEEEN (in all caps of course). But then everyone pretends to know how to do a Scottish accent when they really don't.
Posted by Anthony Murphy on September 16, 2014, 8:24 pm
The bookies are firmly in the NO camp...do they know something our optimistic postings don't?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... -vote.html
Researchers reveal 'extremely serious' vulnerabilities in e-voting machines
Posted September 13, 2006; 12:46 p.m.
by Teresa Riordan
In a paper published on the Web today, a group of Princeton computer scientists said they created demonstration vote-stealing software that can be installed within a minute on a common electronic voting machine. The software can fraudulently change vote counts without being detected. [...]
http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/arch ... topstories
RIC Welcome Support of SYRIZA for Yes Vote
September 16, 2014
The Radical Independence Campaign has welcomed a statement by SYRIZA, the Coalition of the Left in Greece, expressing their support for a Yes vote in Scotland’s independence referendum.
SYRIZA are currently favourites to win the next election in Greece, topping the opinion polls, and narrowly missed out on winning the last general election in June 2012, winning over 25% of the vote.
The Statement from SYRIZA Scotland can be read in full below, key points include:
# That the Scottish Left has played a key role in the independence movement to ensure it has been an internationalist campaign linked to a rejection of decades of neo-liberalism and social injustice.
# That the people of Scotland “have a right to a better future” after decades of Thatcherite “economic and humanitiarian onslaught” from Westminster and that the referendum process has been a democratic process of the highest order.
# That SYRIZA stand with the left of the independence movement “that have taken this opportunity to regroup and take steps towards greater unity” and look forward to standing with us, as we stand with them, to create a peoples Europe.
[...]
http://radicalindependence.org/2014/09/ ... -yes-vote/
White House Gently [sic] Opposes Scottish Independence
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/W ... -0042.html
norton ash » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:30 am wrote:I gotta go with the 52% NO vote... but only as a betting man. If Canada's experience is any indicator, either the ballot will be fucked with, or the moderates will chicken out when faced with the more 'troubling' choice at the last minute.
Dr. Volin, we miss you, and your views as a Quebecois referendee would be welcome. Of course, it was the Canadian Scots refusing to let go of Montreal that screwed that one up.
82_28 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:45 am wrote:Funny about your name MacCruiskeen. I've always (because of handle) pictured you as some circumspect Scot. Mine, I just figure comes off as a harmless robot that swears a lot. Then again, your avatar is a harmless robot.
However, back to topic. Does anyone find this dustup of "independence" happening in the UK as there is the UKranian dispute in Russia somewhat suspect? I am sure that there is much more to both issues and probably not at all related -- other than the ongoing possibility of a global synch of some kind. But maybe not. Could be by design. You don't run into Scottish people much out here, but if I ran into them I would certainly ask how they felt. Just the tale that one "culture" can do it peacefully (velvet glove) and the other must do so with tanks and armies at the same time in order to "gain" it back. There's something under the hood -- at least I think.
82_28 wrote:There's something under the hood -- at least I think.
norton ash » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:01 pm wrote: The Irish pray on their knees, the Scots prey on their neighbours.
Slainte... rooting for YES.
mailonline
Is England going to bomb the Scot Nats? Pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine mock the break-up of Britain
By Will Stewart and Reuters
10 September 2014
Pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine have brought their own idiosyncratic take on the Scottish independence debate as they back the Yes vote.
Separatists have been mockingly comparing the battle for Ukraine with the referendum in Scotland, asking why England doesn't use military force and poking fun at the Queen and US President Barack Obama.
One supporter of Novorossiya - the breakaway region of eastern Ukraine - posted a picture of the Saltire on Twitter along with the tongue in cheek question in Russian: 'Why doesn't England bomb the Scottish separatists?'
continued
If Mr Cameron gave a thought to his own self-interest, it can only have been a fleeting one. Before he became prime minister, I once suggested to him that a referendum on Scottish independence might be a Machiavellian masterstroke. If it went the wrong way, I suggested, playing devil’s advocate, might not the Tories rule for ever more in the remaining UK?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... state.html
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