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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:31 pm

Searcher08 » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:40 pm wrote: :eeyaa :sarcasm
stillrobertpaulsen, I am finding your use of the word 'priority' problematic.
What exactly do you mean by it? How do we know someone has 'higher priorities' or not?
I find that this is just muddying the waters.

Priority has been used as a code word by Far Right groups in elitist tropes such as the alleged
Illuminati group in 'The Holy Blood and Holy Grail' called..... wait for it....
The Priority of Sion!!


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The research by Baigent, Leigh and Lincoln was deliberately slippery and probably has its true origins in the John Birch Society.
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Re: Propaganda

Postby Sounder » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:36 pm

@Sounder: Like you labeled me a corporation-serving globalist? Some consistency in your arguments would be nice, if you're capable.


As a peek here will show, the funders of agenda 21, -smart growth, sustainable development are the usual crew of big guns. Not your friends.

http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.c ... da-21.html

This article is good for the handy segue on the value of labels.

http://www.seattleorganicrestaurants.co ... zation.php

Monsanto, Agenda 21 and Globalization

Monsanto among many other powerful corporations in America is known for its hypocritical business model and its glorious past from helping to build the first atomic bomb and poisoning more than 5 million Vietnamese with Agent Orange which resulted in 400,000 deaths and disabilities to its monopoly and total market control over the world’s foods and seeds.

Recently, Monsanto among many other powerful corporations including the big banks and the giant oil companies has joined the so-called World Business Council for Sustainable Development (WBCSD) pursuing the United Nations' so called “Agenda 21”. The so called “Agenda 21” is an Environmental Program on sustainable development that shows concern about the sudden catastrophic changes in the climate and the environment. Beside the increase in use of pesticides and chemicals that have lead to changes in the environment, the Agenda 21 pushes for a more globalized and centralized government.

The critics of Agenda 21 however have further expressed their concern that “Global Sustainability” is only a label for centralizing power in the UN and making the richest 1% even richer at the expense of individual freedom, private property right and social and national sovereignty of nations.

But what’s amazing is Monsanto, big banks and the giant oil companies joining Agenda 21 for “Global sustainability”. It’s ironic how just a label or a name could affect the hearts and minds of the people.(not so ironic) For example there used to be wealth tax in early 20th century on the richest 1%. Since they had most of weath they had to pay taxes to maintain services. Then since the second world war, the tax burden was shifted towards the middle class and the working class. They used 'labels' to change and create this shift of contributions from the super rich to the working class.

For instance, the "inheritance tax" was again and again supported by many people, in both of the major parties in U.S. Then the Republican party and the lobbists for the billionaires came up with a plan and that was to change the name from "inheritance tax" to "death tax", and over night 88% of Americans were suddenly against this tax since they thought this would include them whereas before, inheritance nornally applied only to very wealthy people. Apart from the name alone "death tax", nothing else - nothing else - in the provisions of the tax law changed. Only the name - or the "label" of this tax. That is all that was needed to change the mind of majority of Americans.

When they wanted to start the Iraqi war in 2003, again, it was labelled as, "the Iraqi Freedom", and when they wanted to pass the law to reduce the rights of Americans and subject them to intrusive wiretaping, they called it, "the Patriot Act", since only a non-patriot would be against this, apparently.

So labels are everything. The name is the most important. The content, the code, the underlying intentions and the desire to manipulate and control the masses, is irrelevant, and they can pass it by people without Americans having a time to review and reject it.

So an inquisitive mind will wonder how the axis of evil “Monsanto” can join the global big business alliance (Big businesses, NGOs and shareholders of giant companies who control 43% of the nations’ wealth) for pushing the “global sustainability” agenda for the greater good of the planet.

However, the WBCSD coalition who obviously doesn’t think the same is celebrating that Monsanto is joining the global business alliance. In fact WBCSD in a press release earlier this week points out how “Monsanto” the leading global provider of biotechnology and modern agriculture can improve the productivity and food quality of the world. Yes, tell that to 250,000 Indian farmers who have committed suicide in the last 10 years by drinking Monsanto’s insecticide or one out of 5 kids who are living in poverty in America and one out of three kids who are suffering from obesity and type II diabetes, all thanks to corporations like Monsanto who are appreciated for their big business sense and achievement even at the expense of contaminating the organic crops with GMOs and fighting the will of 93% of Americans to put a label on GMO foods.

Monsanto Company joins WBCSD
So in this world of globalized exploitation and monopoly the UN is no exception for exploiting the environmental problems for the purpose of strengthening its power and position to enslave the nations by pushing the agenda of one world government with new world orders.

I don’t care much for labels since I know the pro-GMO and pro-globalization crowd would label this article a conspiracy theory. To them even disadvantaged poverty or climate change are just conspiracies. However, I do care about actions, since actions speak stronger than words. Both labels of the Agenda 21 which are “sustainability” and “development” are very well aligned with the bright history of Monsanto, big banks and the giant oil companies. Instead of focusing on the main problems which are increase in chemicals, pesticides and environmental pollutions, the entire focus is short term solutions even if it meant exploiting the problem at the first place. By the end of the day Rahm Emanuel, the man who put Obama into the office once said “crisis is an opportunity”, yes indeed “crisis is truly an opportunity for the rich and powerful to screw over the middle class and the working people so they get richer and more belligerent”.

"United Nations exists in order to avoid having a REAL and CREDIBLE international organization that would serve humanity, justice, and equality on earth"

United Nations was created after the second world war by Britain, France, and U.S. in order to set a new world order – something similar to the order of pack of dogs in the wild, with U.S. as the top dog, followed by other nuclear wielding 5 members of security council. Together now they have established a world order based on favoritism and self-interest agenda that in essence achieves one thing: “To avoid having a real and credible international organization for justice and equality for every citizen and every nation on earth”.

These few nuclear wielding nations do not want justice and equality for every nation since their entire agenda is to create inequality which would make these 5 nations able to retain their power over others, control economic markets, and lead the pack of dogs in the world. Any nation that does not want to belong to the pack of dogs or the pack mentality is demonized, criticized, marginalized, and will be sanctioned or attacked for some bogus reason or another.

United Nations exists in order to avoid having a REAL and CREDIBLE international organization that would serve humanity, justice, and equality on earth.
That is why I have always believed that U.N. is nothing but USED TOILET PAPER.


- See more at: http://www.seattleorganicrestaurants.co ... 2QMm9.dpuf

A little weak at the end, but still, a good article.
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby American Dream » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:53 pm

American Dream » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:10 am wrote:
I surely am endorsing practical work towards social change, though a very different kind than that proposed by the various forces of the Right. I do think that some people use "globalists" as their codeword for Rothschild/Illuminati/Elders of Zion shit, which is indeed racist and deeply misguided. I don't think though that rational discussion works with those who are emotionally wedded to such ideas. They are already with the far Right and are unlikely to leave.

As to who "the globalists" even are, no clear and agreed upon set of criteria has appeared here for how we might really know who is and is not a member.

Since this phantom of "the Globalists" itself represents a crypto-mystical category, the whole house of cards comes crashing down...

I have a good general idea of where y'all are at- am honestly not impressed and that's where we're at. I'm ready now to move on to more compelling things in my own life.


I'm truly ready now...
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:58 pm

are you truly ready now because you understand there is absolutely nothing you can do to change the big picture?

I do think that some people use "globalists" as their codeword for Rothschild/Illuminati/Elders of Zion shit


That wouldn't be anyone here ..correct?

you're disappointed you didn't get the answer you fished for wanted..correct?
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby Sounder » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:04 pm

http://cluborlov.blogspot.ca/2014/10/pu ... me-is.html


Wednesday, October 29, 2014
Putin to Western elites: Play-time is over

[日本語訳]

Most people in the English-speaking parts of the world missed Putin's speech at the Valdai conference in Sochi a few days ago, and, chances are, those of you who have heard of the speech didn't get a chance to read it, and missed its importance. (For your convenience, I am pasting in the full transcript of his speech below.) Western media did their best to ignore it or to twist its meaning. Regardless of what you think or don't think of Putin (like the sun and the moon, he does not exist for you to cultivate an opinion) this is probably the most important political speech since Churchill's “Iron Curtain” speech of March 5, 1946.

In this speech, Putin abruptly changed the rules of the game. Previously, the game of international politics was played as follows: politicians made public pronouncements, for the sake of maintaining a pleasant fiction of national sovereignty, but they were strictly for show and had nothing to do with the substance of international politics; in the meantime, they engaged in secret back-room negotiations, in which the actual deals were hammered out. Previously, Putin tried to play this game, expecting only that Russia be treated as an equal. But these hopes have been dashed, and at this conference he declared the game to be over, explicitly violating Western taboo by speaking directly to the people over the heads of elite clans and political leaders.

The Russian blogger chipstone summarized the most salient points from Putin speech as follows:

1. Russia will no longer play games and engage in back-room negotiations over trifles. But Russia is prepared for serious conversations and agreements, if these are conducive to collective security, are based on fairness and take into account the interests of each side.

2. All systems of global collective security now lie in ruins. There are no longer any international security guarantees at all. And the entity that destroyed them has a name: The United States of America.

3. The builders of the New World Order have failed, having built a sand castle. Whether or not a new world order of any sort is to be built is not just Russia's decision, but it is a decision that will not be made without Russia.

4. Russia favors a conservative approach to introducing innovations into the social order, but is not opposed to investigating and discussing such innovations, to see if introducing any of them might be justified.

5. Russia has no intention of going fishing in the murky waters created by America's ever-expanding “empire of chaos,” and has no interest in building a new empire of her own (this is unnecessary; Russia's challenges lie in developing her already vast territory). Neither is Russia willing to act as a savior of the world, as she had in the past.

6. Russia will not attempt to reformat the world in her own image, but neither will she allow anyone to reformat her in their image. Russia will not close herself off from the world, but anyone who tries to close her off from the world will be sure to reap a whirlwind.

7. Russia does not wish for the chaos to spread, does not want war, and has no intention of starting one. However, today Russia sees the outbreak of global war as almost inevitable, is prepared for it, and is continuing to prepare for it. Russia does not war—nor does she fear it.

8. Russia does not intend to take an active role in thwarting those who are still attempting to construct their New World Order—until their efforts start to impinge on Russia's key interests. Russia would prefer to stand by and watch them give themselves as many lumps as their poor heads can take. But those who manage to drag Russia into this process, through disregard for her interests, will be taught the true meaning of pain.

9. In her external, and, even more so, internal politics, Russia's power will rely not on the elites and their back-room dealing, but on the will of the people.



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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:15 pm

Putin’s Complaint
Is Washington a revisionist power?

by Justin Raimondo, October 29, 2014

The idea that the United States must exercise "global leadership" is rationalized by our interventionists as a necessary prerequisite for maintaining some type of "world order." Who will guard the sea lanes? Who will deter "aggression"? Who will defend the "rules" against those "rogue states" just waiting for an opportunity to wreak havoc, if not the United States of America?

No "mainstream" politician dares challenge this mythology, and those academics and popular writers who do so risk being marginalized. Challenging the motives of our wise rulers isn’t good for your career: that is, not if you want to have any influence in Washington. And while it’s okay to question whether this episode of meddling or that murderous invasion is really in our interest, the benevolence and historical legitimacy of the American empire is not to be questioned. Because, after all, the theoreticians of imperialism say, without the stability enforced by America’s military supremacy "liberalism" could not exist.

This is how the world is seen inside the Washington Beltway, where the monuments of Empire loom large and more than half the population owes its livelihood to the Imperium. Outside that bubble of hubris and skyrocketing real estate values, however, the world looks to be quite a different place – as does America’s role in it.

To an Iraqi citizen, who has watched his nation be torn to pieces by the American eagle, stability is the last thing he associates with the Americans. To a Libyan who had hopes his country might evolve into something more than Gaddafi’s playground, "order" fled the moment the Americans intervened. To a resident of eastern Ukraine who voted in an internationally-recognized election for Victor Yanukovych – and who awoke one morning to discover his government had been overthrown by force – America is anything but the champion of liberal democracy.

But of course none of these peoples – Iraqis, Libyans, Ukrainians – count for much in the Imperial City. Their wishes, hopes, dreams, and opinions are irrelevant to the making of American foreign policy: they are outside the pale, forever exiled to that netherworld separating the West from the rest. And there is no race or nation farther outside that pale than the Russians, who lost the cold war and therefore – in Washington’s view – have ceded any power or influence they once had over the calculations of US policymakers.

Russia and the Russians are routinely demonized in Washington: they are the one people it is perfectly okay to hate – unless, that is, you are a member of "Pussy Riot," or a has-been chess champion who’s taken up Russophobia as a second career. That is, unless you’re a traitor to your own country and allow yourself to be used as an instrument in Washington’s hands.

Naturally the number one hate object is Vladimir Putin, who is regularly characterized as either the reincarnation of Stalin, the second coming of Hitler, or, preferably, both. That’s because he doesn’t recognize the implications of Russia’s defeat in the cold war and still seems to think his opinions amount to something in the brave new unipolar world Washington is building.

No wonder the response to his recent speech at the "Valdai International Discussion Club" – an annual event in Russia – has been nothing short of hysterical. Yet even then, I was amazed to get this tweet from Jackson Diehl, the editorial chieftain of the Washington Post, announcing their editorial:

"We pore over his performance in Valdai, a poisonous mix of lies, conspiracy theories and anti-US vitriol."

What does the editorial board of the Washington Post find so appalling? They are shocked – shocked! – that Mr. Putin wants Washington to "stay out of our affairs and to stop pretending they rule the world." How dare he! Who does he think he is, anyway – a world leader of consequence, whose country is armed with nuclear weapons?

It wasn’t just the reliably neoconnish WaPo. As James Carden noted in The National Interest, "The New York Times alerted readers ‘Putin Lashes Out at U.S. for Backing ‘Neo-Fascists’ and ‘Islamic Radicals’; the Financial Times proclaimed "Putin Unleashes Fury at US ‘follies’; and Fox News reported that ‘Putin Blasts US in Speech, Blaming West for Conflict in Ukraine.’" The Washington Post only added a few more decibels to the cold war chorus, noting approvingly that, in a recent speech, President Obama likened the Russians to a bad case of Ebola.

The WaPo’s sense of nostalgia is evoked when Putin mentions (twice) Nikita Khrushchev banging his shoe on a desk in the UN – it’s the 1960s all over again! Except it isn’t: and that, from Putin’s point of view – and much of the world’s – is precisely the problem.

Because back then the US had a real adversary in the Soviet Union, and Washington was properly constrained. No more: ever since the fall of the Soviet empire, the Americans have been on a rampage. Instead of ensuring stability – and defending national sovereignty against aggressors – they have become the worst aggressors on the planet, agents of instability who seek to overthrow the established order and, as George W. Bush proclaimed in his crazed second inaugural address, "light a fire in the mind" on a global scale.

In his Valdai speech, Putin points to the brokenness of the institutions and understandings that used to balance out the power relationships in the international arena, regulating them so that upheaval and conflict were minimized. Without this framework, says Putin, all that’s left is "the rule of brute force." Western whiners will bristle at such hypocrisy: this is said by the invader of Crimea! Yet Crimea has been Russian since Catherine the Great: the Russians will respond to our arguments that this is "aggression" the moment we give back the American southwest to Mexico. And anyone capable of the least amount of objectivity will have to concede they have a point.

With the end of the cold war, Putin continues,

"What we needed to do was to carry out a rational reconstruction and adapt it to the new realities in the system of international relations.

"But the United States, having declared itself the winner of the Cold War, saw no need for this. Instead of establishing a new balance of power, essential for maintaining order and stability, they took steps that threw the system into sharp and deep imbalance."

NATO expansion to the very gates of Moscow, Clinton’s Balkan wars, and a regime-change operation that overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine and replaced it with "pro-Western" elements with dubious democratic credentials. Even more shameless was the political and diplomatic support given by Washington to crazed Islamic radicals, such as the Chechen "freedom fighters," i.e. the ideological blood brothers of the Tsarnaev brothers.

"The Cold War ended," avers the Russian leader who picked up the pieces,

"But it did not end with the signing of a peace treaty with clear and transparent agreements on respecting existing rules or creating new rules and standards. This created the impression that the so-called ‘victors’ in the Cold War had decided to pressure events and reshape the world to suit their own needs and interests. If the existing system of international relations, international law and the checks and balances in place got in the way of these aims, this system was declared worthless, outdated and in need of immediate demolition.

"Pardon the analogy, but this is the way nouveaux riches behave when they suddenly end up with a great fortune, in this case, in the shape of world leadership and domination. Instead of managing their wealth wisely, for their own benefit too of course, I think they have committed many follies."

The editorialists and the neocon pundits are up in arms over the Valdai speech precisely because Putin is absolutely right about what he calls the "legal nihilism" of the US and its satellites. And of course they weren’t exactly pleased to hear the Russian leader’s denunciation of America’s "total control of the global mass media" which "has made it possible when desired to portray white as black and black as white."

Our Western "democrats" are bound to choke at this point, yelping about the alleged near-total control of the Russian media by Putin & Co. Yet this only underscores Putin’s point: the source of their anger is that anyone, anywhere on earth, deviates from the party line as dictated by Washington and its captive media, which speak with one voice when it comes to foreign affairs.

If we look at the international competition between nations in terms of ecology, it’s clear what is the problem. Like a population of rats that has suddenly been allowed to reproduce beyond its natural boundaries due to a lack of predators – say, bears – to balance them out, the Americans have gone swarming across the globe, undermining the natural ecological balance and taking out everything and everyone in their path. This is where our "victory" in the cold war has led us – into a position very much like that of the old Soviet Union before Stalin reduced Soviet ideology to a strictly defensive posture of "socialism in one country." We have switched roles with the Russians, who are now the status quo power, in opposition to our own role as a revisionist revolutionary power seeking to destroy what little stability the world has left.

Ah, irony – thy name is history.
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Re: Propaganda

Postby DrEvil » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:42 am

Sounder » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:36 pm wrote:
@Sounder: Like you labeled me a corporation-serving globalist? Some consistency in your arguments would be nice, if you're capable.


As a peek here will show, the funders of agenda 21, -smart growth, sustainable development are the usual crew of big guns. Not your friends.

http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.c ... da-21.html


You have got to be fucking kidding me. From the website you linked:

UN Agenda 21/Sustainable Development is the action plan implemented worldwide to inventory and control all land, all water, all minerals, all plants, all animals, all construction, all means of production, all energy, all education, all information, and all human beings in the world. INVENTORY AND CONTROL.


It's the Illuminati!

That whole site is so hysterical that I'm surprised they're not ranting about black UN helicopters.
If you want to continue this clusterfuck I suggest we take it to another thread.
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby conniption » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:04 am

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A modest proposal to future mass murderers: Learn from Ukraine

Vladimir Golstein

Published time: June 18, 2014

If you intend to kill your opponents on a massive scale, don’t just arm your people with machetes, iron rods or AK47s and start killing. With photos of atrocities flooding the Internet, the world community might eventually stop and even punish you.

This old-fashion method of mass killing is hard to sell in today’s world of freedoms and individual rights. A much better way to succeed in mass violence is to connect your victims to Russia, by denouncing them as the enemies of freedom and democracy and by calling them Russian terrorists and puppets in the hands of the current leader of Russia, whom you should call Stalin incarnate. Hitler incarnate works as well, but since Hitler was the leader of Germany – the country that is currently at the forefront of democracy – that might confuse the issue. The new Stalin is a more effective label.

Once your enemies are associated with Russia and its evil leaders, you can explain to the West that your killings are necessary not because of your burning hatred for your victims, but because you want to embrace liberal values and join the EU, while it is those whom you kill who are the proponents of tyranny. Never forget to suggest that all your killings were provoked by Russia. Your western backers will surely add their authority to the blame. You can also imply that the territory vacated after your attacks can be used for a NATO base. To facilitate your efforts, it is important to enlist the help of some old Cold War warriors and neocons, such as Senator John McCain or Victoria Nuland, by explaining to them that the failures of your economy is the result of Russian sabotage. It is the remnants of their socialism that is destroying your country, and not your looting.

I also encourage you to find a Jewish person among your population, preferably someone with close ties to your regime; you can also export an adviser whose ancestors ran away from the Tsarist pogroms. This person should testify to The New York Times that your regime is very friendly to Jews, as opposed to your victims who still live by some primitive nationalistic values. That will score plenty of points with your neocon audience, who will in turn secure American supporting your fight against anti-Semitism. Calling your enemies“sexist”or“homophobic”can also boost your cause, but frankly, it would be overkill. Since your goal is to accomplish overkill on the streets of your towns, don’t waste all your energy on propaganda wars.

But make sure you enlist the help of some former dissidentsor political leaders from Eastern Europe. Their memories of being abused by the Evil Empire are so strong, that it would be easy to convince them that those who are laying on the streets, burned, shot, or chopped to death, were Russian agents, intent on perpetuating Soviet-style tyranny. The hard-worn moral authority of these allies will surely silence your critics.

The need to defend your country from the ever-expanding Russian Empire should always be on your lips. If someone points to the map and shows that Russia has actually shrunk since the Tsarist or Soviet days, tell them that this shrinking is one more proof that they are dreaming of restoring the days of old. Quoting their leader who spoke about the loss of the Soviet Union, as tragedy will surely help, as would the reference to some medieval monk, who proclaimed Russia to be the new Rome. And as you wipe off your bloody hands, recite Barry Goldwater’s saying: “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.”

Have the photograph of one of your soldiers in Russian uniform. That will be enough for the American journalists, raised on the stories of communist body-snatchers, to disseminate your stories of Russian threat. The ubiquitous presence of Russian infiltrators, exposed by Joe McCarthy, and proven beyond doubt by James Bond films, and the current TV series, The Americans, will make your fabrications more real than real life.

Being a mass murderer, you didn’t come to power by peaceful means, so some hard-nosed reporters might question your agenda, or demand the explanation for recent violence. Lecture them on the atrocities of Stalin, which surely dwarfs your own. If they persist and press you on the connection between Stalin and the violence that you’ve just unleashed upon your population, turn the tables and accuse them of being Kremlin apologists.

It is also important to establish museums where you can demonstrate the pictures of your victims, but label them as the victims of Stalinism (since Stalin happened to kill Christians, Muslims, Jews and everyone else in between, you’ll be believed). Having a lot of victims will make your case stronger, but in case you’ve been slacking, argue that victims’ unborn children should be included in the equation. Once you have a respectable number of victims and some doctored photographs, museums can be opened. Through these means, Ukrainians boosted the amount of Stalin’s victims to seven million, beating the Jewish victims of Holocaust, and demonstrating the diabolical power of Stalin and Communism.

It is important to groom the younger generation into their role of henchmen. The children should be subjected to the routine of dancing and singing in the manner of these teenagers from Western Ukraine, who are demonstrating their proper political credentials by reciting: “hang the Muscovite on the branch” (Moskaliauku na giliaku). If someone in the West finds it barbaric, explain that you are restoring ancient folklore from the remnants of culture wiped out by the Communists. And don’t forget to teach your kids to make Molotov cocktails. Burning is a very efficient and hygienic way of getting rid of your victims. But sometimes you can bomb them and let their relatives take care of them. But make sure that their coffins are painted in red, so that the whole world would see how you are dealing with the Red menace.

Had Saddam Hussein or Rwanda’s Hutus followed these instructions, their success would have been much higher, as they would have proceeded without interruption. But if, for some reason Russians decide to interfere, noticing that the West simply sits on the fence debating whether your current rate of killing fits the definition of genocide, pronounce triumphantly: I told you so. But you might as well succeed, since Russians will be too bogged down in their own backyard to come to the rescue.

With NATO and economic packages behind you, you can continue for years to come. When you eventually die, or rather drink yourself to death, as the ghosts of all those whom you recklessly and cruelly destroyed would make your conscious life too painful, you’ll end up in the anticommunist heaven. You’ll be greeted by Mr. Joe McCarthy, who will accuse you in being too soft on Communism and thus manifesting some latent Russian sympathies. You’ll be interrogated and humiliated, your words will be twisted, since McCarthy will surely find one Russian sympathizer among your population whom you failed to destroy. What Senator McCarthy’s verdict will be is beyond my expertise to say, but you can be rest assured that 50 years later somewhere in the free world, there will be a monument erected in your honor, for the glorious contributions in your fight against Russian Communism.

Vladimir Golstein is the Associate Professor of Slavic Languages and Literatures, Department of Slavic Studies at Brown University

The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby stefano » Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:13 am

Sounder » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:04 am wrote:http://cluborlov.blogspot.ca/2014/10/putin-to-western-elites-play-time-is.html


Wednesday, October 29, 2014
Putin to Western elites: Play-time is over

That speech is very good, very wide-ranging and sensible. Certainly much meatier than the soundbite-peppered hurried little bits one is used to hearing from Western pols. Thanks.

Also pretty globalist, in the same way that I think of myself as a globalist (I like the UN, EU, AU, etc.):

Vladimir Putin wrote:I am certain that if there is a will, we can restore the effectiveness of the international and regional institutions system. We do not even need to build anything anew, from the scratch; this is not a “greenfield,” especially since the institutions created after World War II are quite universal and can be given modern substance, adequate to manage the current situation.

This is true of improving the work of the UN, whose central role is irreplaceable, as well as the OSCE, which, over the course of 40 years, has proven to be a necessary mechanism for ensuring security and cooperation in the Euro-Atlantic region. I must say that even now, in trying to resolve the crisis in southeast Ukraine, the OSCE is playing a very positive role.

In light of the fundamental changes in the international environment, the increase in uncontrollability and various threats, we need a new global consensus of responsible forces. It’s not about some local deals or a division of spheres of influence in the spirit of classic diplomacy, or somebody’s complete global domination. I think that we need a new version of interdependence. We should not be afraid of it. On the contrary, this is a good instrument for harmonizing positions.
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby Sounder » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:04 am

The response your post calls for could be a little long, so most of it will come later.

As I have said in the past, maybe before your time here stefano; the polarity is within the category rather than between categories.

Many fine people dedicate their lives toward creating civil society protocols, sometimes earnestly trying to harmonize their work with work done in other contexts and countries, while sometimes the underlying motives of the sponsors comes to the fore, decimating the gains made by people sponsored within that same system.


Putin is sharp in this talk and one can easily imagine that he wrote the material himself. The west hates him because he exposes the flaccid nature of our talking head sound bite culture. It is a sin in the west to actually have a personality.
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby American Dream » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:47 pm

For information on what "the Globalists" are up to, be sure to go to the very best sources:


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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby Searcher08 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:31 pm

Actually,

I find out what the globalists are up to by looking at what their supporters on R.I. DO rather than what they SAY.

So when someone says "I have always been critical of Soros" after uncritically posting dozens of posts from a Soros-employed 'researcher' at a Soros-funded organisation on whose board Soros sits - and provides no critique whatsoever - and then ignores this when pointed out, well....
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby American Dream » Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:44 pm

JackRiddler » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:44 pm wrote:Indeed Luther, there's doubtless Soros money at your university. This totally makes you CIA and completely and forever discredits any and all arguments you and all persons associated with said university have ever made, and makes you a supporter of fascists in the Ukraine and escalating the bombing of Gaza.

There will certainly be no need ever again to read your posts or contend with them on presented contentions or evidence. In fact, your every post will be as a capital offense unto Man and God.

At least this thread serves for the Real McCarthyites of RI to announce their membership in the Freedom Witchhunt. Pretty small crew, actually. But prolific!
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:23 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:07 pm wrote:You got suspended because of your entire online MO -- the passive aggressive snipes at people, stirring shit up and then acting like you don't see people responding, and overall, maintaining your stellar track record of being the most intelligent and subtle troll we've ever had here at Rigorous Intuition to date (with the possible exception of Jeff Wells, of course -- jury is still out on that one).

A great way to reverse that trend would be to treat the people in this thread who are asking you questions like normal human beings, who are just as smart as you, don't have "problematic" or "questionable" motivations, and would earnestly like answers from you! Give it a shot! Could be exciting.


One difference between this quote and the one listed above mine: it's actually from this thread. Too bad the intended recipient refused to ignore the advice of our esteemed mod and continues stirring shit up even after proclaiming he is "ready now to move on to more compelling things in my own life." So move the fuck on already!
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