uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby Project Willow » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:51 pm

Parel's description of the video is disingenuous.

"My Dad killed babies, but we never killed babies on our own, never."

"Why did you tell?"

"Abraham caught us." [Abraham is the stepdad] "My Dad told us to touch each other sexually."

I may be giving the Mum too much credit, but what remains undisputed after viewing the bulk of the released material, is that these children have been brutally sexually abused, and that is the crux of the issue.

While I'm disturbed that the police interview of Gabriel was released online, it's worth a watch, because given the medical report, and Gabriels's statements in the vid., it's undeniable that twisted shit is happening in this case.

Lots of face touching, hitting on the head, etc., SOP cult/trafficking. There is a here, here. It's not all bullshit.
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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby Jerky » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:54 pm

Also, if you don't think "Abraham" and his gal-pal weren't banking on getting thousands upon thousands of raving paranoid nutbars (and a handful of sincere, well intentioned but somewhat easy to confuse true believers) - the very thousands that are populating DavidIcke.net, and the literally dozens of other conspiracy websites out there - I think you're being a bit naive... too quick to assume the worst about everyone EXCEPT the very people who have probably permanently twisted these children's minds forever with their sick, self-protecting phantasias.

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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby Jerky » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:55 pm

You should probably watch all the videos, PW.

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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby Jerky » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:01 pm

The first thing the kid tells the cop who interviewed him after the cop gave him time to think about whether or not he had any questions was "Please, is there a way I don't ever have to see Abraham again."

I mean, for pity's sake.

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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby Jerky » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:04 pm

It has become all to obvious that the only "twisted shit" that went down in this case was perpetrated by Abraham, and ignored by these kids' mum.

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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby Project Willow » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:49 pm

Sure hun, if you're completely comfortable with ignoring medical evidence of rape.
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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby Jerky » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:01 pm

I thought I was being as clear as I could possibly be, but I guess I wasn't.

I'M SAYING IF ANYBODY RAPED THESE CHILDREN, IT'S ABRAHAM.

Hence his casting a vast accusatory net at EVERYONE ELSE ON THE PLANET, and his seeking aid, support and comfort from an audience that he KNEW he could rely on to swallow his line of bullshit hook, line and sinker (to mix metaphors).

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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby Project Willow » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:11 pm

That's one theory. It's not in any way clear what's happening here yet except, as I've said, these kids have been abused horrifically. So do please refrain from your derogatory and inflammatory descriptions of those of us who just may, FFS, be open enough to consider multiple potentialities.
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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby parel » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:15 pm

In the final tape for Gabriel, dated 17th Sept (24 mins) the evidence of abuse found by the doctor is lightly touched upon, but still leaves a large question mark hanging above it. We don't know whether this is the entire interview. Was the evidence that we know of ever addressed more thoroughly?
http://zeeklytv.com/video/19738/Gabriel-17-Sep-24-min


@15.15
P: You've been to the doctor's though, haven't you?
G: Yeah
P: And, they said... did they tell you what they found? What did they say?
G: Bruises
P: Where were the bruises?
G: On my bottom.
P: And, how did you get them?
G: *shrugs* I've got no idea.
P: So, has anyone ever put anything in your bottom?
G: No
P: Nothing.
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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby Jerky » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:21 pm

Pardon my disgust with the lipsmacking, thrill-seeking voyeurism of the online vigilante brigades - which are everywhere to be seen when one does even a cursory glance at how this story presents itself online - but I wasn't refering to you, specifically. So I regret if you felt targeted.

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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby Jerky » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:23 pm

And please excuse me if I don't agree with you that the sight of a child touching his or her face a couple times automatically leads me to believe in a Satanic conspiracy so vast and all-encompassing that EVERY SINGLE AUTHORITY FIGURE in a major UK town is automatically rendered suspect. "Extreme claims require extreme evidence" and all that gas, don't you know.

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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby Project Willow » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:24 am

Fuck your extraordinary claims bullshit, and lucky you, you've never had to deal with any of this shit, lucky fucking lucky you that you can't even be bothered to ask me what I meant by the face touching comment. Lucky fucking lucky you and everybody else who does nothing but weave barriers to tie off all and any inroads to possible mutual understanding, because it's too fucking painful, beause it's too fucking much of an adjustment to your world view.

Lucky fucking you.
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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby parel » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:05 am

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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby Jerky » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:06 am

This, from a moderator.

Wow. Lucky me, indeed.

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Re: uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

Postby semper occultus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:55 am

.....the Icke thread on this is now 600 pages.....I just can't face plodding through it...
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