Charleston mass murderer Roof homegrown American Terrorist

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...this is the one you want...

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Whoopin’ and a-Hollerin’ for the Plantation Life
by Walter Brasch / June 25th, 2015

Judge A. Joseph Antanavage, with shotgun in hand, stood before a modified Confederate battle flag, and looked as if he had planned to defend whatever it is that the Confederate flag stands for.

But, this wasn’t in the South. This was at a pigeon shoot near Hamburg, Pa. Pennsylvania is not only where the only legal organized pigeon shoots still exist, but where it’s not unusual to see shooters waving the Confederate flag or wearing clothing that features the flag.

Pennsylvania is the Keystone state, the state where the Declaration of Independence was written, and the Articles of Confederation approved. It is where Abraham Lincoln delivered the Gettysburg Address on November 19, 1863, four months after the three-day battle led to 7,058 fatalities and 33,264 wounded, most with what would be life-long injuries. It is where the country heard that its Founding Fathers had believed, “all men are created equal.”

The beliefs of the Founding Fathers, even the few who owned slaves, have not been accepted by hundreds of thousands of Americans who are willing to tell anyone within voice range there are inferior races in America.

Those who defend that flag—the symbol of treason against the United States of America—say it is history, a part of the South’s heritage. But it is a symbol of defiance that should have died with the surrender at Appomattox Court House in 1865. But it didn’t die. It was invigorated by the rise of the Ku Klux Klan, White Citizens Councils, and the declaration, “The South Shall Rise Again,” often spoken by men with guns and broken-down pick-ups.
The original battle flag, with the stars-and-bars, was square, and there were several variations. The rectangular flag became popular in the Reconstruction era, so the heritage dates not to the Civil War but to the era of racism.

The murder of nine Blacks at a church in Charleston, S.C., reignited the fires of hatred as well as a realization that the Confederate flag is a symbol of that racism. (Of course, while the nation is talking about a flag, they have conveniently overlooked critical issues of responsible gun control and civil rights.)

Nevertheless, Gov. Nikki Haley (R-S.C.), following the murders, changed her view about the Confederate flag, padlocked to its staff and flying proudly on the statehouse grounds. During the 1960s, it was flown from on top of the state house, a symbol of protest to racial integration. In 2000, it was moved to a staff on the statehouse grounds, the result of a compromise by the Republican-controlled legislature and civil rights groups. Gov. Haley wants the flag removed. But, she needs a two-thirds vote of her legislature to do that. There are still legislators who, for the cameras, say they oppose segregation but that the flag is a respected symbol of the South’s history.

The Sons of Confederate Veterans say they will fight to keep the flag where it is, flapping in the wind, high above the heads of Blacks, Jews, Hispanics, and all minorities. They say it is their heritage. But, there are other ways to preserve a heritage. There are articles, books, and documentaries. There are plaques, statues, and museums. Some say they wave the flag because, like them, it is a symbol of society’s rebel. But, the only thing they rebel against appears to be the rights of all people. Their defiance may hopefully relegate them to insignificant obscurity.

Georgia’s official flag, from 1956 to 2001, adopted as a defiant protest to civil rights, was dominated by the stars-and-bars before finally being replaced.

Gov. Robert Bentley (R-Ala.) ordered the Confederate battle flag removed from the Confederate memorial on the state Capitol grounds. Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D-Va.) wants to ban the confederate flag from the vanity license plates of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

The Republican-dominated Mississippi legislature has no plans to modify its state flag. That flag has a replica of the Confederate flag in the corner where the American white stars on a blue field would be, and a blue stripe, a white stripe, and a red stripe in the area where the U.S. flag’s alternating red and white stripes would be. As long as Mississippi and the South continue to fly the battle flag, some of the more legitimate reasons for the South’s secession will forever be obscured by the racism of slavery.

Major retailers—including Walmart, Sears, Kmart, eBay, and Amazon—have banned the sale of flags and items with the Confederate stars-and-bars decorations. Apple has removed from its website and stores several games with the Confederate flag. Perhaps this should have been done decades ago, but for whatever reason they are doing it now, it is a good reason.

There has been a strong brush-back by Confederate sympathizers. Sales of the flag and flag-related items have increased in the past week at retailers that have more of an interest in profits than a moral conscience.

For southerners and other sympathizers who are offended that a symbol of racism and treason may not be available to them, there is an easy solution.

They can take a trip to northeastern Pennsylvania, home of the Civil War Fishing Creek Confederacy, which actively opposed the Union. In Summer, they can attend one of the largest monster truck rallies in the nation; in Fall, they can attend the state’s largest fair. Vendors will sell them a variety of Confederate battle flag trinkets, toys, and clothing. They can buy flags from vendors, put them on their trucks, drive down Main Street, whoopin’ and a-hollerin’ as if they were the ones who are entrusted with protecting white womenhood and the way of life that existed in ante-bellum America.

Or, if they can’t attend the rally and the fair, they might be able to spend a weekend at one of a half-dozen pigeon shoots, where they can dress like hunters, hold a shotgun meant to kill caged pigeons, and proudly pose in front of the rebel flag.

[8bitagent]

If his name was Dylani al-Roofi, guaranfreakintee he'd be arrested on Federal terrorism charges. Fuck Fox and their talking heads for trying to claim this was "an attack on Christians".
Is it me or is the most sickest part of the whole thing being that he sat with these people for AN HOUR before massacring them? Fox News and every thinking human being should have immediately
thought Birmingham 1963. All the "was he on meds/gun control/etc" shit is secondary. He said he wanted to start a race war.
Yeah he fits into every other dead eyed 19-22 year old loner we're accustomed to doing a mass shooting attack every few months, but this one is stacked with horrifying history.

In 1993 a group out of southern california called the "fourth reich skinheads" plotted to blow up a packed black church and assassinate a popular black celebrity to jumpstart a race war.
Thankfully they were stopped.

But while I'm absolutely resisting the conspiracy label, and as of now do not feel Roof's actions seem in line with some manchurian plot...
the words "trial balloon" come to mind.

I said it years ago on here and I'll say it again; there are those who would love nothing more than to see an actual race war. Which would pretty much be a horrifying event
to make Baltimore look like a pool party and fire up the right wing gun nuts in response. Unless all the "secret service security slip ups" in the last couple years have just been a coincidence.

[8bitagent]

By the way if anyone wants to see what a hardcore racist who hates blacks, but is black, sounds like..here's Rush Limbaugh's lifetime produce James Golden in his own sickening words and video.
http://www.rawstory.com/2014/09/rush-li ... -old-days/

[seemslikeadream]

The Greatest Obstacle to Anti-Muslim Fearmongering and Bigotry: Reality

By Glenn Greenwald and Josh Begley
Source: The Intercept
June 26, 2015

The think tank New America issued a report today documenting “the lethal terrorist incidents in the United States since 9/11.” It found that a total of 26 Americans have been killed by “deadly jihadist attacks” in the last 14 years, while almost double that number — 48 — have been killed by “deadly right wing attacks.” The significance of that finding was well-captured by the New York Times’s online home page caption today, promoting the paper’s article that included this quote from Terrorism Professor John Horgan: “There’s an acceptance now of the idea that the threat from jihadi terrorism in the United States has been overblown.”

That the U.S. government, media and various anti-Muslim polemicists relentlessly, aggressively exaggerate “the terror threat” generally and the menace of Muslims specifically requires no studies to see. It’s confirmed by people’s everyday experiences. On the list of threats that Americans wake up and worry about every morning, is there anyone beyond hypnotic Sean Hannity viewers for whom “terrorism by radical Islam” is high on the list?


To believe the prevailing U.S. government/media narrative is to believe that radical Islam poses some sort of grave threat to the safety of American families. The fearmongering works not because it resonates in people’s daily experiences and observations: it plainly does not. It works because it’s grounded in tribalistic appeals (our tribe is better than that one over there) and the Otherizing of the marginalized (those people over there are not just different but inferior): historically very potent tactics of manipulation and propaganda. Add to that all the pragmatic benefits from maintaining this Scary Muslim mythology — the power, profit and policy advancement it enables for numerous factions — and it’s not hard to see why it’s been so easily sustained despite being so patently false.It’s literally hard to overstate how trivial the risk of “radical Islam” is to the average American. So consider this:


(Sources: deaths from traffic accidents; deaths from bees; deaths from lightning; deaths from furniture; deaths from right-wing extremists)

If anything, the chart severely understates how exaggerated the threat is, since it compares the total number of deaths caused by “Muslim extremists” over the past 14 years to the number of deaths caused daily or annually by threats widely regarded as insignificant. This is the “threat” in whose name the U.S. and its Western allies have radically reduced basic legal protections; created all sorts of dangerous precedents for invasions, detentions and targeted killings; and generally driven themselves to a state of collective hysteria and manipulation.

[zangtang]

(bit off topic & potentially upsetting ref/ traffic deaths)

I know the U.S is a big country & there's a lot of you....no jokes about must be shit drivers....
but you are slaughtering yourselves on the roads......
I've known (did know) the annual figure years ago & equated it to about 100 people a day

100 people is shocking....but its the per day, every day....including tomorrow....and the day after - thats when it registers.
by this time in July......................................

[Twyla LaSarc]

Alarming Statue of a Racist and Horse Perfectly Honors The Confederacy

Sam Biddle
Filed to: THE SOUTH 6/23/15 3:23pm
Alarming Statue of a Racist and Horse Perfectly Honors The Confederacy

Hadn't heard of Molly Hatchett. Great sound that reminded me of the Belfast band Light, an off-shoot of Van Morrison's Them.


The statue should be donated to the Museum of Bad Art.
http://www.museumofbadart.org/

Not ragging on Hatchet necessarily, but their album covers were a bit over the top, like many southern bands (and others) of the time. It was likely not they who had the dosh to comission Franzetta, but their brand/label marketers who knew kids would lap it up and not be critical of the message.

I can't complain too much, my first rock concert involved Hatchet (and Black Sabbath and Blue Oyster Cult) and they were fine to listen to at the time, I haven't gone back to parse their music for messages and likely won't unless Sirius starts playing more of it in their classic rock format I have to listen to at work.

[Wombaticus Rex]

100 people is shocking....but its the per day, every day....including tomorrow....and the day after - thats when it registers.
by this time in July......................................

Nay - shocking is realizing how much worse it can get:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... death_rate

[Twyla LaSarc]

In 1993 a group out of southern california called the "fourth reich skinheads" plotted to blow up a packed black church and assassinate a popular black celebrity to jumpstart a race war.
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82 knows as do I that this has been under the white sheets for sometime. We are both witnesses (in my case, via confession of sorts) to the maiming of a black singer who was making inroads into straight edge skater punk and invoked the anger of the white power skinheads. This was going on at the same timeframe as the 1993 plot you mention.

I bet it is part of the same thing. There is a reason my sister put 40000 miles on the family car that year running messages and providing backup.

Apparently, being on Xanax at one recent point got her all riled up about race again. I'm glad she died before she could contribute to the recent spate of killings.

[Twyla LaSarc]

That statue reappears in an article:

http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2015/06/ ... first-form

Why does any supposedly liberal editor try to work around the crazy eyes? Let it all hang out baby.

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...good heavens...that sounds like some back story Twyla....

......I can't help feeling articles like Greenwald's rather miss the point....besides the fact that the relative lack of crazy beardie terrorist mayhem since 9/11 can equally be employed by the high priests of Homeland Security to justify and vindicate their actions ....random acts of lethal but unwitting happenstance inflicted by insects, furniture or automobiles share absolutley no common psychological currency ( and neither should they really ) with the malicious and capricious deliberation involved in the plotting and execution of high profile terrorist media events....

...they might well do if those road fatalities were happening - Death Race 2000 style - with lunatics driving onto the pavement and mowing people down willy-nilly......we even get occasional tabloid news-scares when its a slow day in the editorial offices of the yellow press about swarms of Killer bees from Asia or South America about to invade and lay waste to the land.....

...today's news from France will have done nothing to lessen that fact...

[seemslikeadream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtteRD5bBNQ

found grace



Rev. Clementa Pinckney, 41

Source: The State/Getty Images
The 41-year-old pastor and South Carolina state senator was the most publicly known victim of Wednesday night's shooting. Previously, Pinckney had been well-known as a community activist and supported legislation requiring police to wear body cameras. The senator also served on the Southern Mutual Insurance Company's board of directors. He leaves behind a wife and two children, according to an official government website.

Cynthia Hurd, 54

According to her employer, the Charleston County Public Library, Cynthia Hurd "dedicated her life to serving and improving the lives of others." Photos of Hurd smiling can be seen on the library's Flickr page. In honor of her death and 31 years of service, the library announced it would close all its branches Thursday. "Her loss is incomprehensible," the CCPL said, Buzzfeed reported.

Sharonda Coleman-Singleton, 45


Pinckney wasn't the only religious leader taken in Wednesday's massacre. Another reverend at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church, Sharonda Coleman-Singleton was also a local high school track coach and a mother of three. The Facebook page of Goose Creek High School described their loss and said a vigil would be held in Coleman-Singleton's honor at 7:00 p.m. Thursday. Her son Chris also asked for prayers from his Twitter account.

Tywanza Sanders, 26

The banner of Tywanza Sanders' Facebook page reads "your dreams are calling you." For him, that meant a degree from Allen University in Columbia, South Carolina, in their Division of Business Administration in 2014. Sanders, who friends suggested was shy, had expressed an interest in broadcasting. In a statement reported by Buzzfeed, the school's vice president of Institutional Advancement, Flavia Eldemire, said Sanders was "a quiet, well-known student who was committed to his education." Initial reports indicate he died while protecting other members of his family.

Myra Thompson, 59

Myra Thompson was the wife of another religious figure, Rev. Anthony Thompson, the vicar of Holy Trinity Reformed Episcopal Church in Charleston. Church official Archbishop Foley Beach asked followers to pray in the aftermath.

Ethel Lee Lance, 70

Ethel Lee Lance was a grandmother and sexton at Emanuel AME when her life was taken. Her grandson Jon Quil Lance told the Post and Courier, "Granny was the heart of the family," and added she had worked in the church for more than three decades.

Susie Jackson, 87

Another grandmother, Susie Jackson was also a longtime member of Emanuel AME and was identified as a victim by a relative. She was also Lance's cousin, according to the Post and Courier.

Daniel L. Simmons, 74

The only victim who did not die at the church, 74-year-old Daniel Simmons succumbed to his injuries at a local hospital, authorities said at a press conference Thursday. Simmons, a retired pastor from another church, regularly attended Wednesday Bible study services at Emanuel AME and June 17, 2015 was, tragically, no exception, ABC News reported.

Depayne Middleton Doctor, 49

According to her LinkedIn profile, Doctor worked as a former manager of the U.S. Department of Commerce and graduated from Southern Wesleyan University with a Master's degree, Organizational Management.

[Twyla LaSarc]

[quote="semper occultus » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:00 pm"]...good heavens...that sounds like some back story Twyla....


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If I knew then what I know now, I would have entertained and recorded on tape the braggadocio that my sister could not help but tell me and insisted on rubbing my egalitarian anarchist face in. As it was, I had small children and was sickened, I wanted to shut that kind of shit down around me and my kids, especially since i had to deal with her as local 'family' at the time.


As for the concert near denver. 82 was there on the scene and can elaborate more than I can. I heard about it several months later when sis finally came home and just had to tell me about it. The moment of recognition came when 82 decribed how the skinheads locked arms and swept the crowd...it was the same as the description given by my sister, but onehunnerteighty degrees removed in reaction and emotion.

[KUAN]

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list of countries by traffic-related death rate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... death_rate

I'm not at all sure, but wouldn't 'Road fatalities per 100,000 vehicles' be a more accurate reflection drivers abilities or perhaps national mindset?
I mean Central African republic is 13472 for pete's ffs.
Could be the condition of the vehicles and the roads of course. The U.S. is 13.6 with Scandinavian countries below 5.

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