Mike Malloy says RECREATE 68 is a CIA front

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Postby chlamor » Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:41 pm

And who is Larry Hales anyway?

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Coloradan Larry Hales Walking Through Israel Army's illegal barricade near Manger Square in Bethlehem (credit: by J Reese)

Larry Hales is one of two members of the Colorado Campaign for Middle East Peace who have joined many internationals in Palestine to nonviolent resist Israel's illegal military occupation of Palestine. More on their trip at: www.ccmep.org/palestine.html


Coloradan taking part in standoff
By Lisa Levitt Ryckman, Rocky Mountain News Staff Writer
May 9, 2002

Holed up in the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem are militants, monks, cops -- and one Coloradan.

"I feel safe within this dangerous environment because I think what I'm doing is right," said Larry Hales, 25, in a phone interview on Wednesday. "Whatever happens was meant to happen."

The Denver resident is part of the Colorado Campaign for Middle East Peace, which advocates nonviolent solutions to conflicts in the Middle East. Its goals include ending U.S. support for Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories.

Hales and three other Coloradans -- Marilyn Robinson, Brian Wood and Ida Audeh -- have been traveling in the region and sending home reports of their experiences.

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http://www.ccmep.org/ccmep/coloradan050902.html
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:53 pm

chlamor wrote:Recreate-68 Alliance Media Communique #1
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January 21, 2007 CONTACT:

Glenn Spagnuolo - 720-771-4669

Mark Cohen - 303-733-7037

Larry Hales – 720-979-9491

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Call 'em - Ask 'em.

Send the phone numbers to Malloy and see if he'll hold interviews. His conjecture is shaky at best. His sleuthing is not so keen.


Exactly, chlamor. Malloy is shooting from the hip at Rush's targets.
Do your homework, Malloy. Keep Rush in the figuritive crosshairs, not activists.

Denver is where an alliance of Native Americans plus progressive Italians, like Glenn Spagnuolo, have been making the Columbus Day Parade a major activism issue against imperialism and genocide while using civil disobedience.
Court cases ensue for years.

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So there's a serious history of suppressing activism in Denver behind this group's declared 2008 plans.

Amy Goodman interviews Spagnuolo in October, 2006-

http://www.democracynow.org/2006/10/6/challenging_columbus_day_denver_organizers_discuss

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October 06, 2006

Columbus day10-6-06
Challenging Columbus Day: Denver Organizers Discuss Why They Protest the Holiday

Monday is known as Columbus Day, which is supposed to commemorate the arrival of Christopher Columbus to the so-called “new world” in 1492. But the holiday has long caused anger amongst people of color, especially Native Americans, who object to honoring a man who opened the door to European colonization, the exploitation of native peoples and the slave trade. We talk to Glenn Morris of the American Indian Movement of Colorado and Glenn Spagnuolo of Progressive Italians Transforming the Columbus Day Holiday.

The first state commemoration of Columbus Day was in Colorado and when our “Breaking the Sound Barrier” tour visited the state earlier this month–I sat down with two activists who were working to transform the holiday. Glenn Morris is a member of the Leadership Council of the American Indian Movement of Colorado, an Attorney and Associate Professor of Political Science at the University of Colorado at Denver. Glenn Spagnuolo is a member of Transform Columbus Day Alliance and the Director of PITCH–Progressive Italians Transforming the Columbus Day Holiday.

* Glenn Morris, member of the Leadership Council of the American Indian Movement of Colorado. Attorney and Associate Professor of Political Science at University of Colorado at Denver.
* Glenn Spagnuolo, member of Transform Columbus Day Alliance and director of PITCH–Progressive Italians Transforming the Columbus Day Holiday.

AMY GOODMAN: Glenn Morris is a member of the Leadership Council of the American Indian Movement of Colorado. He’s an attorney and associate professor of political science at the University of Colorado, Denver. Glenn Spagnuolo is a member of Transform Columbus Day Alliance and the director of PITCH, that’s Progressive Italians Transforming the Columbus Day Holiday. First, I asked them about the history of Columbus Day in the state of Colorado. This is Glenn Morris.

GLENN MORRIS: Columbus Day began—most people don’t know—as a state holiday in Colorado in 1907. But what’s more important for people to understand is the ideology behind Columbus Day and why there is a Columbus Day in the United States or in Colorado. And there’s been a lot of discussion lately about Hugo Chavez at the United Nations, when he raised up Noam Chomsky’s book, Hegemony or Survival.

And if we could begin a little bit by just reducing the terms “hegemony” and “ideology” to their simplest forms: if an ideology is a set of ideas that allows a nation or a people to describe reality in terms that are comfortable for them, but more importantly, that describes the world as it should be, and hegemony is driven by a national ideology that is so comprehensive that it becomes almost invisible, like water to fish or air to human beings, and in a sense then, we can understand Columbus Day as a hegemonic tool, the way that Chomsky uses the term, because it makes no historical sense to have a national holiday to Columbus in a country that he never visited, in a state that he never knew existed.

And so, we have to ask the very simple question: why does the holiday even exist? And it exists in part to advance a national ideology of celebrating invasion, conquest and colonialism. And the proponents of the Columbus Day holiday in Colorado and Columbus parades, and so on, make no bones about the fact that they’re celebrating the colonization of the Americas and, in fact, have told us on several occasions, “Look, we’re going to have this celebration. We’re going to have these parades to Columbus. And let’s get one thing straight,” they say to us. “This is not your country anymore. This is our country now. And you’d better get with the program.” So, for us, the celebration of Columbus, who was an African slave trader prior to coming to the Americas, then began the colonization of the Americas—

AMY GOODMAN: Explain.

GLENN MORRIS: Well, Columbus sailed for the Portuguese on the Gold Coast of Africa, brought back gold and slaves to the Portuguese slave market in Portugal. That’s why when he arrived in the Caribbean, it became so easy for him to resort to his old practices and began to enslave Indian people to bring to the slave market in Seville. And so, we believe that Columbus as a national icon is a mistake and sends certainly the wrong message to schoolchildren about what is heroic about the history of this hemisphere. Certainly, the heroism of Columbus does not warrant a national holiday. In fact, he wasn’t a hero. He was a slave-trading Indian killer. And so, that’s why, in the birthplace of Columbus Day here in Denver, it’s such a big issue. Next year will be the centennial of the holiday. And we intend to make that a major focal point nationally.

AMY GOODMAN: Glenn Spagnuolo, you’re director of PITCH, Progressive Italians Transforming the Columbus Day Holiday. How did this holiday begin in Denver in 1907?

GLENN SPAGNUOLO: Well, it actually started down in Pueblo, if I’m correct, and when it got started—it’s really changed from the beginning to what it is now. Now, you have Italians who have latched onto this holiday, saying that this is a celebration of their Italian pride and a celebration of Christian ethics. And the more I looked at it, the more I learned that that’s not really the truth. This is just propaganda, used as tool to support the white privilege that they get from the oppression of Native Americans and the colonization of America.

Back in Italy, where my family came from, Columbus isn’t celebrated as a national hero. In Genoa, at the quincentennial, they actually tried to shut down the city, so a celebration wouldn’t occur there for tourists.

AMY GOODMAN: What do you mean? Who tried?

GLENN SPAGNUOLO: The Genoese who were there, the Italians, they didn’t want it to be used as a tool to bring tourism to that town, so they shut down the town. So, in Italy, he’s viewed as the scoundrel that he is.

And then, being raised as a Catholic and looking at Christian ethics, there’s nothing that Columbus did when he came here that supported any kind of Christian moral background. I mean, he stole. He murdered. He was greed, raped people. I mean, it was ridiculous. So, to see them now say that this is a celebration of Italian pride or of Christian ethics, it’s a false assertion, and it’s really used to support, like I said, colonialism, the exploitation of this country from its indigenous population, and to continue the view of white privilege that exists here in the United States.

AMY GOODMAN: Glenn Spagnuolo and Glenn Morris. We’ll come back to them after break. I was speaking to them on our “Breaking the Sound Barrier” 80-city tour, as we travel the country honoring Democracy Now! at ten, DN! at 10. […] We go to break now, and then come back to our discussion about the origins of and, well, what Columbus Day means today. Stay with us.

[break]

AMY GOODMAN: We return now to the conversation I had in Denver with Glenn Morris and Glenn Spagnuolo. I asked Glenn how the Italian American community responds to his group’s efforts to transform Columbus Day.

GLENN SPAGNUOLO: Well, obviously they have been very negative, made responses to us in the sense that, you know, we’re race traitors and that we don’t respect the Italian culture. But most of them have been here for generations and have actually lost touch with their own Italian culture. People from immigrant families who haven’t been here that long recognize their true Italian roots and realize that this is not a celebration of it. If they wanted to have a celebration of Italian pride, I would be the first one to help them organize it, and I’m sure that the American Indian Movement would assist in that, too, because they have nothing against anybody celebrating their own cultural values.

But this parade, this is hate speech, plain and simple. This is not a parade. It’s a “convoy of conquest,” as we call it, and I think that some of the members of the Sons of Italy who put this parade on are really not supporting Italian values, but are really trying instead to push an agenda. I mean, a lot of the issues that you see today, dealing with immigration, for instance, are connected directly to this parade. And the Sons of Italy realize that. Many of the members of the Sons of Italy are the same people who came out and protested the immigration marches that took place here. They had made the connection between the celebration of the colonization of this country and the oppression of the minorities here. And I think that all the other groups should look at that and make the same connections themselves.

AMY GOODMAN: Glenn Morris, what are your plans for this Columbus Day?

GLENN MORRIS: Well, for this Columbus Day, we intend to make visible our opposition to the Columbus holiday and celebrations of colonialism, as we have in the past—that is, with large, vigorous and lively opposition to the “hate speech parade,” as we call it. But really, Ms. Goodman, the point about the protest—

AMY GOODMAN: You can call me Amy.

GLENN MORRIS: Thank you. The point about protesting Columbus Day and the holiday is not so much about Columbus, the man, or about parades—we all like parades—or holidays. The point is really about the legacy of Columbus. And from the American Indian Movement of Colorado’s perspective, and for many indigenous peoples’ perspectives, what’s important is the way in which the United States continues to celebrate this legacy of colonialism and imperialism. And that’s embodied in federal Indian law. The Doctrine of Discovery was institutionalized in 1823 in the Supreme Court case of Johnson v. McIntosh, where John Marshall uses—fabricates the Doctrine of Discovery to justify the diminishment of Indian title to the Americas.

AMY GOODMAN: Explain, not in legalese. What do you mean, the Doctrine of Discovery?

GLENN MORRIS: Essentially, what Marshall says in Johnson v. McIntosh is that by virtue of the arrival of Christian civilization, the right of native peoples to their traditional homelands and territories is diminished, because of the blessings that Christian civilization have brought to the western hemisphere. And that opinion is the foundation for federal Indian law in the United States that continues to be enforced day after day after day ’til 2006.

We have a case in Nevada right now with the Western Shoshones, in which the title to their land was considered to be extinguished under this Doctrine of Discovery—not in 1823, not in 1890—in the 1980s, and it continues to the present, to the point where the United Nations, the Committee on the Elimination of the Racial Discrimination and the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights, have said that through this Doctrine of Discovery, the application of the Doctrine of Discovery, the United States has been involved in gross violations of fundamental human rights.

Now, the United States, of course, continues to ignore those decisions, but in addition to that, this Doctrine of Discovery and the principles of federal Indian law have been exported from the United States to be applied in Canada, in Australia, in New Zealand, in other English common law countries, like India and Kenya and South Africa. And so, this is not merely a discussion about a parade or about a holiday to a long-dead historical figure. This is about a legacy that continues to drive imperialism today.

And we see that embodied in the Bush administration. I don’t know if you’ve read Robert Kaplan’s book, Imperial Grunts, but Kaplan, who is a favorite of the Bush administration, and reportedly Bush read the book, Imperial Grunts. And in the book, Kaplan admits that today the United States continues to fight the Indian wars in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in the Philippines, in Colombia, where they continue to call any territory that is not under the control of the U.S. military “Indian country.” That is, it needs to be subdued, it needs to be civilized. This war, this clash of civilizations, so-called clash of civilizations that’s going on in the world today, it’s not new. That was a war that was being fought in this area right here where we’re sitting for many generations, in order to bring the heathen territories into the civilized Christian fold. So that’s really what we’re talking about, is beginning to address the ideology that drove the Indian wars, and the line can be traced continuously from October 12, 1492, to the present.

So, what we’re saying from the American Indian Movement of Colorado, from the Transform Columbus Day Alliance, is that we can create a different future. And that’s what we intend to do in the streets of Denver, is to begin a movement that says: this country needs to re-examine its history; it needs to report that history differently to its children; it needs to impart certain values and moral traditions to succeeding generations, that it’s not okay to go to someone else’s country and steal it and kill them and engage in genocide.

AMY GOODMAN: Specifically in the streets, what will you do? What are the plans for direct action?

GLENN MORRIS: We first will have—we will conduct a four directions march, in which people from all ethnic and racial communities, different faith-based communities, will come from four directions in Denver and converge at the state capitol. This will be the night before the parade, But the day of the parade, there will be vigorous political action to express our opposition to the parade, because we believe, in the birthplace of Columbus Day, it’s important to set an example for the kind of—not just for what we’re against, which is the expression of hate speech as embodied in the Columbus holiday, but also what we’re for. And what we are for is the transformation of the holiday. And so, if it takes people risking their liberty through acts of civil resistance, then perhaps that’s what’s in order for the day.

AMY GOODMAN: Glenn Spagnuolo, have you been speaking to the Italian community? Is there any dialogue taking place?

GLENN SPAGNUOLO: Every year there has been dialogue that took place. We’ve actually had conversations facilitated by human rights commissions to try to find some kind of common ground, but as Glenn has stated, the remarks are to the point of almost being belligerent from the Sons of Italy to the fact of there is no give there. It’s the view, like they said, that “This is our country now, and the indigenous population needs to get with the program.” Those are actual quotes from some of those meetings. So when you come with a mindset like that and are not willing to give up that privilege that you have and actually meet on neutral grounds and talk, we haven’t been able to obtain any kind of meaningful solution.

AMY GOODMAN: Did you ever feel like that?

GLENN SPAGNUOLO: I would say no. I mean, I did recognize that growing up, I did have a certain amount of privilege afforded to me. And, you know, as I’ve gotten older, I’ve seen that privilege. And I think it’s up to every one of us who are considered in a privileged class, white males in this country, to use that privilege to try to dismantle the white identity that’s been, I would say, perpetrated upon us, to be honest with you, because I think the first victim of the racist is the racist’s child. So I think it’s up to all of us to try to use that and break down the so-called club that exists for white identity. And instead of using our privilege for gain, for materialism, to use it to try to rectify situations that exist in this country, such as the genocide that continues ’til today of the indigenous populations here.

AMY GOODMAN: Glenn Morris, you’re a member of the Leadership Council of American Indian Movement, Colorado. You’re also professor at University of Colorado and an attorney. The ACLU has obtained more documents that appear to show the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force has been watching antiwar groups in Denver as part of a domestic terror investigation. This came out earlier this year. The ACLU requested the files after people in groups were questioned by authorities regarding their involvement in protests in Colorado Springs in 2003 and the Denver Columbus Day parade of 2002.

GLENN MORRIS: Before I answer that question, if you don’t mind, I’d like to address your previous question to Glenn Spagnuolo. The characterization that the hate speech paraders are the Italian community, I think, is a mistake. I think in the protests that we’ve had in the past, frankly, we’ve had more members of the Italian community protesting the parade than have been in the parade. And so, I think in these kinds of discussions, language becomes extremely important. And so, when the characterization is that the Italian community supports the parade, I think part of that is generational. I think that certainly younger Italian Americans feel no particular allegiance to Christopher Columbus or to the ideology of Columbus or invasion. So I hope that we can make that clear. And we encourage Italian Americans from across the country, across the world, in fact—in fact, we have Italians from Italy who have vehemently expressed their opposition to the Columbus Day celebration in the United States. So I’d like to dispel that fallacy, that this is somehow some monolithic position within the Italian American community. Or that this is an Indian versus Italian conflict, because it’s not. It’s about people of goodwill who want to convert racism into anti-racism, and so that really is the essence of it.

But to your question about the JTTF and the Denver Police Department’s spy files, to us, that’s an expression of the Columbian legacy. When first the spy files story broke in about 2002, and the spy files were released from the Denver Police Department and then ultimately from the JTTF, one thing that we found was that most people’s Denver police spy files were about maybe, for organizations, five, six, ten, maybe 30 pages. When we made the request for the American Indian Movement of Colorado’s files, the first request we got was about 150 pages. And then we said, we know that that’s not all, so we kept pressing, about 300 pages, then about 500 pages. Finally they released 1,500 pages to us, far surpassing any other organization, any other individuals. There were documents in the file that indicated that some of us were to be assassinated. The FBI had confirmed evidence that some of us were to be assassinated.

AMY GOODMAN: By who?

GLENN MORRIS: By different people who didn’t like us, and so the Denver police had that information and didn’t release it to us. And so, as you can see, it didn’t come to fruition, but not because of any efforts by the FBI or the Denver police to stop it. And so, that’s—to us, that’s an expression, though, of this continuing anti-Indian ideology, even in the Denver Police Department and the city officials today, who refuse to take a position against this hate speech that began in their city, or state officials, state legislators, who refuse to take a position against this hate speech that emanated from this state.

AMY GOODMAN: Glenn Morris, we only have two more minutes, but when you came into the studio here today at Rocky Mountain PBS, you brought a large photograph of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld speaking in Fort Carson several years ago. Why?

GLENN MORRIS: To us, that represents this continuing ideology, this hegemony that Chomsky talks about. And it is confirmation that Rumsfeld and Cheney and the Rumsfeld-Cheney doctrine around the world is an expression that began—an expression of policy that began with Columbus, continued through the entire Indian war period of the United States and continues today. If you look at this picture, you’ll see that Rumsfeld is giving a speech, sending off U.S. soldiers from Fort Carson, which is itself, a semiotic—you know, this symbolism of colonialism. Kit Carson was not a hero to native people. Kit Carson was an Indian killer. He caused the relocation of Diné people to Bosque Redondo. He engaged in the Sacramento River Massacre in the 1840s. So Kit Carson was not a heroic figure either.

AMY GOODMAN: How was Kit Carson connected to Fort Carson?

GLENN MORRIS: It’s named after Kit Carson. Fort Carson is named after Kit Carson. So Rumsfeld is giving this speech at Fort Carson, about to send off these soldiers immediately behind him to Iraq, but behind those soldiers is the color guard for Fort Carson. And you’ll notice that they’re in different uniforms. They’re in the uniforms of the Indian wars, of the 1870s, ’80s and ’90s. And those soldiers represent the continuity, the soldiers immediately behind Rumsfeld represent the continuity of the Indian wars. That is expressed by the color guard, still dressed in the uniform of Custer, of Sheridan, of Crook, of the other Indian killers of the 19th century.

And if you look at the picture, you’ll see that those soldiers have yellow kerchiefs around their neck. So all of these people that have the support the troops magnets on their car that are yellow ribbons? That’s the genesis of that, that they even made—I believe it was 1949—John Wayne made a movie with John Ford called She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, and the tradition of those yellow ribbons is that the cavalry that would go out to kill Indians, before they left, they would take that yellow kerchief off, tie it in their wife or their girlfriend’s hair, and say, “You wear this until I come back safely from killing Indians.” So the Indian wars continue even in these little icons. That’s hegemony. It’s so impervious—I mean, it’s so pervasive in this society that we don’t even recognize it.

AMY GOODMAN: Glenn Morris, a member of the Leadership Council of the American Indian Movement of Colorado, and Glenn Spagnuolo with Transform Columbus Day Alliance.
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Postby chlamor » Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:59 pm

Recreate 68 Alliance
P.O. Box 6444, Denver, CO 80206

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT: Glenn Spagnuolo, 720-771-4669
Mark Cohen, 303-733-7037
Larry Hales, 720-979-9491

AS CITY ANNOUNCED PLANS TO INTERN HOMELESS DURING DNC,
R68 ALLIANCE ASKS: WHO’S NEXT?

DENVER May 20, 2007—Members of the organizing committee for the Recreate 68 Alliance, a group formed to coordinate protests and alternative activities around the Democratic National Convention in August 2008, are concerned by the city’s announced plans to “persuade the homeless to come inside” during the Democratic National Convention, to shelters kept open specifically to keep homeless people off the streets during the DNC. The city claims to be doing this for “security” reasons. It seems unlikely that Denver’s homeless could pose a “security” threat to convention delegates. As others have stated, it appears the city’s real motive is to sanitize Denver’s image for the delegates—and to remove from their view visual evidence of the very kinds of social issues that the Democratic Party should be considering.

The city has requested $50 million for security, an extravagant amount. Some of that money should be used to build more shelters that should be open every day, not just in extreme cold or when the elites in our society want to come to Denver for a party and not be distracted by that pesky poverty issue, and to provide other social services. R-68 recognizes the homeless as an integral part of their plans for 2008 and will utilize their resources to provide a voice and a platform for the homeless to express their views on the issues that cause this unnecessary problem in our overly sanitized communities. R-68 is of the opinion that we need to assist the most injured by capitalism in our community and not hide them from the elites who will be celebrating the system that caused the damage. Further more, during R-68’s four day “Festival of Democracy”, we will be providing basic care for the homeless such as, free meals and free basic medical assistance.

In addition to this treatment of homeless people as criminals and second-class citizens or worse, there is a larger issue. Prior to previous conventions and other national events, officials in host cities have raised inflammatory, false alarms about “security” issues to justify unnecessary and unconstitutional restrictions on First Amendment rights of demonstrators. The issue of “security” masks the real interests of officials in maintaining an atmosphere in which “official” visitors to these events will be encouraged to spend money and play without being “distracted” by political dissent.

But the quadrennial convention of one of our national political parties is an occasion that is central to the national discourse on important public issues, and should be regarded as the appropriate place for a great public conversation between the people and their elected officials, and the city should welcome demonstrators and treat them with the same respect and honor accorded to convention delegates. None of the fears raised about security threats and violence at previous conventions have materialized—not because of tight security, but because demonstrators have come to these events to engage in peaceful, non-violent exercise of their First Amendment rights.

There will be legitimate security concerns around the DNC. But they cannot and must not be used as an excuse either to round up homeless people or to prevent demonstrators from voicing their concerns in close proximity to those attending the convention.

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The above does not seem like anything the CIA would be concerned with. Maybe they are using triple reverse psy-ops and have become part of the anti-establishment?

I bet Malloy lives in a very nice comfy dwelling.

Where will Malloy be at the DNC convention? My guess is he'll be inside with the wonks.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:07 pm

chlamor wrote:Recreate 68 Alliance
P.O. Box 6444, Denver, CO 80206

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT: Glenn Spagnuolo, 720-771-4669
Mark Cohen, 303-733-7037
Larry Hales, 720-979-9491

AS CITY ANNOUNCED PLANS TO INTERN HOMELESS DURING DNC,
R68 ALLIANCE ASKS: WHO’S NEXT?

.....

The above does not seem like anything the CIA would be concerned with. Maybe they are using triple reverse psy-ops and have become part of the anti-establishment?

I bet Malloy lives in a very nice comfy dwelling.

Where will Malloy be at the DNC convention? My guess is he'll be inside with the wonks.


Thanks for posting the info, chlamor.
I hope that Malloy gets some info and admits to having fallen for Rush's game.

Malloy is the kind to admit when he's mistaken. But it might take some time since there's lots of mileage in hanging Rush on his FCC violations right now.

I agree with Malloy that it is maddening to watch malevalence being intentionally deployed to both mirror and recreate the tactics used during Vietnam I in these days of Vietnam II.

But I'm used to that mirror thing as S.O.P.
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Postby chlamor » Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:19 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:
chlamor wrote:Recreate 68 Alliance
P.O. Box 6444, Denver, CO 80206

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT: Glenn Spagnuolo, 720-771-4669
Mark Cohen, 303-733-7037
Larry Hales, 720-979-9491

AS CITY ANNOUNCED PLANS TO INTERN HOMELESS DURING DNC,
R68 ALLIANCE ASKS: WHO’S NEXT?

.....

The above does not seem like anything the CIA would be concerned with. Maybe they are using triple reverse psy-ops and have become part of the anti-establishment?

I bet Malloy lives in a very nice comfy dwelling.

Where will Malloy be at the DNC convention? My guess is he'll be inside with the wonks.


Thanks for posting the info, chlamor.
I hope that Malloy gets some info and admits to having fallen for Rush's game.

Malloy is the kind to admit when he's mistaken. But it might take some time since there's lots of mileage in hanging Rush on his FCC violations right now.

I agree with Malloy that it is maddening to watch malevalence being intentionally deployed to both mirror and recreate the tactics used during Vietnam I in these days of Vietnam II.

But I'm used to that mirror thing as S.O.P.


I would say that Malloy is in this case an irresponsible journalist and himself an unwitting tool which can easily be traced to liberal tendencies if you know what I mean.

How could he make such a sweeping and damning statement without even the most cursory research?

The group involved here is nothing more than a minor offshoot of IAC and F.I.S.T. that has scarcely coalesced for the upcoming bash of the "lesser evil."

But now this suspicion-meme will proliferate throughout liberal-land and any and all groups that might actually attempt root analysis and radical actions that go beyond acceptable and worthless forms of dissent will be marginalized.

Back to the parade...
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Rush + FBI? Betcha.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:57 pm

Rush might even be working with FBI to see who responds to his encouragements to violence. There was another reich-wing radio mouth who was outed for doing EXACTLY this. I've forgotten his name.

You know the spooks are all over the internet right now to see who rises to the bait to monitor the low-hanging fruit before this summer's events.

chlamor wrote:
I would say that Malloy is in this case an irresponsible journalist and himself an unwitting tool which can easily be traced to liberal tendencies if you know what I mean.


Talk radio is not an especially nuanced venue. That said, I think usually Malloy does pretty well balancing outrage-du-jour and big picture.

How could he make such a sweeping and damning statement without even the most cursory research?


Rush Limbaugh fever.
Malloy's outrage mode gets the best of him. A perfect set-up for being goaded over the line.

The group involved here is nothing more than a minor offshoot of IAC and F.I.S.T. that has scarcely coalesced for the upcoming bash of the "lesser evil."

But now this suspicion-meme will proliferate throughout liberal-land and any and all groups that might actually attempt root analysis and radical actions that go beyond acceptable and worthless forms of dissent will be marginalized.


The divisions over this issue go back atleast to Martin Luther King vs Malcolm X and showed up again as SDS vs Weathermen.

I've disparaged any violence against people or property as only playing into USG agendas but would agree that what makes it most problematic is how it portrayed by the media which uses it as a discrediting distraction from the REAL issue, war atrocities.

The fascist media will ALWAYS exploit any chance to alienat TV watchers from participating in politics.

Many people, including Ward Churchill, have seen lots of activists murdered by COINTELPRO and so speak of not ruling out violence for their own self-defense, just as the Black Panthers once did.

TV Nation doesn't realize that the USG has a history of using Gestapo tactics.
Activists don't adequately focus on this to educate the public to what is behind the facade of American 'democracy.'

So anyone who makes this declaration of self-defense against a Gestapo is open for discrediting as a provocateur ala Mad Malloy. That seems disproportional and self-defeating, to portray activists who recognize that violence against themselvies is a real problem...to be the "real" problem...given the astounding levels of atrocity committed by the USG.

Recreate 68 has exactly the same 'not going to be defenseless' declared rule-of-engagement of violence only as a last resort (what the Pentagon claims, too) and encourages people to see the difference between broken windows and slaughter of the masses in this 4-page pdf called '12 Myths About Direct Action: Voting vs. Direct Action'-

http://www.recreate68.org/direct_action.pdf

I'm going to read this to see if this issue can be intelligently articulated to the 'only when there's zero risk to me' progressives with their Obama bumper stickers..

But, bottom line-
There's still no way that most people, armchair liberals and reichwingers alike, can NOT be repelled and alienated by media focusing on vandalism. No way.

More like 'Recreating Memphis 68' is what I think we'll see in Denver with the FBI making sure windows are broken.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:47 am

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:.....
Recreate 68 has exactly the same 'not going to be defenseless' declared rule-of-engagement of violence only as a last resort (what the Pentagon claims, too) and encourages people to see the difference between broken windows and slaughter of the masses in this 4-page pdf called '12 Myths About Direct Action: Voting vs. Direct Action'-

http://www.recreate68.org/direct_action.pdf

I'm going to read this to see if this issue can be intelligently articulated to the 'only when there's zero risk to me' progressives with their Obama bumper stickers..

But, bottom line-
There's still no way that most people, armchair liberals and reichwingers alike, can NOT be repelled and alienated by media focusing on vandalism. No way.

More like 'Recreating Memphis 68' is what I think we'll see in Denver with the FBI making sure windows are broken.


After reading that pamphlet '12 Myths About Direct Action' I think they are sincere but naive and misguided to the point of reckless.

Definitely worth reading. It succeeds nobly in some areas and fails miserably in others.

There's lots of good points about not settling for pretending to vote and not treating anything outside of polite as terrorism or provocateurism. Ok.

The paradox faced about changing other people's opinions in dire times is that this always discomforts the target audience somehow. So leaving folks completely comfortable means leaving them unchanged.

But this pamphlet's front page has a picture of a brick going through a window. :roll:
Um, breaking windows doesn't "inspire" the target audience, a task the pamphlet declares as a goal.
Here''s the pdf pamphlet's Myth #10 about Direct Action which Recreate68 obtained from www.crimethinc.com)-
Myth 10. Direct Action is the work of agents provocateurs.

This is another speculation generally made from a distance, without concrete evidence.
To allege that direct action is always the work of police agent provocateurs is disempowering; it rules out the possibility that activists could do such things themselves, overestimating the powers of police intelligence and reinforcing the illusion that the State is omnipotent. Likewise, it pre-emptively dismisses the value and reality of a diversity of tactics. When people feel entitled to make unfounded claims that every tactic of which they disapprove is a police provocation, this obstructs the very possibility of constructive dialogue about appropriate tactics.


Some yes and some oh-puh-leeez. (not po-lice)
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:41 am

What's with the flash face?

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Re-create 68, Operation Chaos, and Rush Limbaugh


There are not many people that Democratic supporters despise quite as much as they do Rush Limbaugh. He has been often criticized for his outrageous statements. He has done it again by saying, "I'm dreaming of riots in Denver."
Not long ago, I remember reading about an organization called Re-create 68, which is a group of people that want to protest at the Democratic convention that will be held on August 24-28, 2008, in Denver Colorado.

The significance of the Re-create 68 name, is that it refers to the Democratic convention of 1968, held in Chicago, Illinois, and which was rife with such protests from Democratic supporters and police actions, that as television cameras filmed, over 100 police officers and 100 demonstrators were injured and over 500 people arrested.


Outside the official convention proceedings, anti-war demonstrators clashed with 11,900 Chicago police, 7500 Army troops, 7500 Illinois National Guardsmen and 1000 Secret Service agents over 5 days.


The Re-Create 68 site has a page they call street tactics with helpful hints for those that want to participate in protesting the August Democratic Convention. These tactics cover with PDF files, direct action vs voting, planning direct actions, an action planning manual, scouting manual, questions about civil disobedience, a video camera training manual, shields, walls and other useful tricks and wheat pasting.

This site, by its very name and stated intent is to re-create an event that was one of the most violent Democratic protest with party supporters protesting Democratic politicians, and yet the site, their goal and their intentions have gone largely ignored.

Enter Rush Limbaugh.
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Postby chlamor » Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:37 pm

Seems you are completely spreading false information.

And great now all the liberal Democrats are stepping up to say "no protest in Denver" and these patently absurd rumors are going to be circulated throughout the internet by the usual cowards at DU, DailyKos etc.

Hell this drivel that you are spreading is the perfect example of how confused and conservative is the american political consumer.

Hell the CIA could hang up it's hat and just laugh while sipping martini's at the absurdity of this kind of crap.

I've posted all the phone numbers for you so do the responsible thing before you spread this insanity even further and make some calls and interview some people.

WakeUpAmerica being used as a source. Oh brother.
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Postby Eldritch » Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:12 pm

Actually, most of the goals expressed on the front page of "Re-create '68" seem like worthy ones to me, even if the methods they seem liable to choose to realize them seem so counterproductive.

And they do seem counterproductive.

Unfortunately many activists rarely want to explore where they might be wrong in their methods—and this fact, more than anything else, is what consistently dooms their efforts.

Ultimately it is not accusations of CIA coziness that will be to blame, not Rush Limbaugh or Mike Malloy, but the bulk of the responsibility for its probable failure will be the activist mindset itself—and the shrill and deafening sound of its own methods—that will drive potential allies away.

From the "Re-create '68" front page:

Welcome to the "Re-create 68" website, your virtual activists' Convergence Center for the Denver Democratic National Convention of 2008. This website was created for all the grassroots people who are tired of being sold out by the Democratic Party.

R-68 agrees with the proposition, POTESTAS IN POPULO, "all power comes from the people." What stands between the people and power are the party machines. The parties were devised as a means to represent the people. Today they represent nobody, not even party members, but only party bureaucracy. The people have been left without appropriate institutions for their representation. We intend to create those institutions!

Join us in the streets of Denver as we resist a two-party system that allows imperialism and racism to continue unrestrained.
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Postby IanEye » Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:29 am



Now that the Democrats have held the Oval Office for 8 years this would seem like a perfect time to "recreate '68"

Yet now, the recreate68 website mentioned above is literally a carpet cleaning operation.

Perfect for sweeping things under the rug.

Perhaps in 8 years the "BLM" website for Black Lives Matter affairs will have morphed into a backdoor for the Bureau of Land Management.

Then, only Cliven Bundy will be concerned.
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Postby MinM » Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:39 pm

IanEye » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:47 am wrote:
chiggerbit wrote:Does anyone have prison stats in 68? We've certainly become much more punitive today. There really was no prison/industrial complex back then.


I beg to differ....

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/06/working-class-hero-is-something-to-be.html

Before becoming "Cinque" and founding the SLA, Donald DeFreeze had been an uneducated and unexceptional petty criminal who, between 1967 and 1969, worked as an informer for the Public Disorder Intelligence Unit of the LAPD. He found himself incarcerated at Vacaville State Prison "at the same time the CIA was conducting mind control experiments there under MKSEARCH Subproject 3," writes Dr Colin Ross in his Bluebird: The Deliberate Creation of Multiple Personalities by Psychiatrists. "These experiments involved administration of the drug pemoline [apparently researching memory function]...under the direction of Dr James Hamilton, as confirmed in an October 18, 1978 letter from Frank Carlucci, the Deputy Director of the CIA [later Chairman of the Carlyle Group] to Congressman Leo Ryan" (later murdered in Jonestown, during the termination of another experiment).

The black prison population seems to have been deliberately targeted, and DeFreeze in particular, through the person of CIA psychological warfare expert Colston Westbrook. (Westbrook also worked with William Wolfe in Vacaville, who went on to join the SLA and died with DeFreeze.) Westbrook had been an advisor to both the Korean CIA and the South Vietnamese Special Police Branch, and may have been involved in the Phoenix Program. He was himself black, and used the cover of the Black Cultural Association to gain the trust of prisoners, visiting DeFreeze twice a week for two years in what seems to have been an exercise in behavior modification. Ross writes that it was Westbrook who gave DeFreeze his guerrilla name, "Cinque," and even designed for him the seven-headed cobra which became the symbol of the SLA.


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Postby MinM » Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:42 am

Patty Hearst and her kidnapping... a CIA operation? Mae Brussell said so.. Lisa Pease contends that the mission of the SLA was to drive a wedge between liberals that came from different backgrounds.

http://www.blackopradio.com/archives2008.html
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nashvillebrook » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:16 am wrote:the husband started to wrote an OP on this for DU yesterday, and then didn't post it. he had 3 paragraphs that i thought strayed from his original intent, and recommended he edit out. but after reading the comments here, i wonder if those three paragraphs might be the real gist. in those paragraphs he's asserting that the Seattle disruption was an "attack":

Sanders was unfairly attacked. ATTACKED. Not boisterously disrupted. Not "agitated." ATTACKED. You don't slap away a proffered handshake, or demand someone "answer for their actions" or demand they say magic words, or promote that they should "bow down" when you're just having a friendly conversation with an ally. It was not analogous to CODE PINK or ACT UP, or anyone else who has in good faith and targeted people who weren't listening to them.

The attack was not on behalf of the general cause of racial justice. It was rightwing fuckery, through and through. Marissa Johnson is a rightwing, "Radical Christian" who "joined" BLM two days before her attack, who bragged about her Palin love and how Republicans would pay failing to "groom" her properly, and whose previous (and still extant) militant group includes eliminating all police in its platform. She is not BLM, a leaderless movement designated by a hashtag.

MLK, who let us recall remarked that socialism was probably required for racial justice to proceed, would toss the Seattle agitators out on their fascist, race-baiting ears.



his gut reaction that this was an "attack" rings true.

I don't know if anyone else has had this experience, but lately I've stumbled upon a few articles about the super rich bracing for out-and-out class warfare. they're fortifying their mansions with safe rooms and places to hide out when the "shit goes down." that's so freaking crazy, i wouldn't put it past any of these political donors to have oppo-shops that are fully endowed to fuck with "The Socialist" using any means necessary -- and, the most "rational" way to tear down a candidate is to make them toxic to one *whole swath* of demographics. race-bating is an efficient means to alienate whole demographics, when it works. i don't think this worked, though. i think Sanders handled this whole thing amazingly well, and at the end of the day it likely helped him.

The Daily Beast had a pretty good piece on the Sanders "attack" ..
Image@thedailybeast: Who was *really* behind the #BlackLivesMatter protests vs. #BernieSanders? http://thebea.st/1DVIoMS
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Re: Mike Malloy says RECREATE 68 is a CIA front

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@mattdpearce 7 minutes ago

Right now, the best available guide for understanding Chicago tonight is understanding 1968. http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-d ... story.html
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@zeynep 15 hours ago

You know who else provoked brawls with protesters to energize his rallies? No I'm serious. It's an old tactic.
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