Murders on Live TV

[divideandconquer]

I've never seen anyone get shot before, but from the Liveleak video http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6f9_1440603403 I saw, it looked so fake I think they intentionally made it that way to mock the masses.

I mean, they didn't see or hear this guy approach? See him pull out his gun and stand there for 30 seconds? I don't know if it was the camera angle but the shooter looked as if he was very much in plain sight. His handgun is almost level with the camera man's shoulder. Then, after being shot three times, with what were blanks reported as hollow point bullets, she takes off like a bat out of hell without a drop of blood anywhere...

Also her boyfriend tweeted her death before she was even shot. Time of shooting 6:46AM EST. Time of tweets 6:32AM EST ...

And another manifesto??

[stefano]

I've never seen anyone get shot before, but [...] it looked so fake

So you've only ever seen fake shootings, and, based on that, you think this one looked fake? Do you mean it looked like on TV, or unlike that? Which would seem more convincing?

Also her boyfriend tweeted her death before she was even shot. Time of shooting 6:46AM EST. Time of tweets 6:32AM EST ...

Source please.

[divideandconquer]

Correction: I have seen a real life shooting up close. I was working at the Springfield mall the day Sylvia Seegrist (research into her past is very interesting...father was an ardent follower of Nazi belief and Sylvia claims to be a victim of ritual abuse) went on her shooting spree. I ran out of the store into the mall right before I saw her shoot a woman (once, not three times in a row) and that woman dropped right away in a pool of blood. If Sylvia had turned right instead of left, it could've been me.

As for the source of the tweets, I don't have time to track it down right now because I'm running late..but google it and I'm sure it will pop up...as I recall I first saw screencaps of the timestamped tweet and then went to the boyfriend's twitter. ...can't remember his name.

[Belligerent Savant]

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A quick google search yields only one explicit reference (so far) of the variance between the boyfriend's tweets and the initially reported times of the shootings...a forum topic in GLP (pasted in quotes below).

The reported time of the shooting isn't necessarily the actual time the event took place; also not sure offhand of the boyfriend's whereabouts at the time of the incident -- he may have been nearby or aware of it as it occurred "live".
It's a bit odd that one of the very first actions he chooses to take is to pull out his device and 'broadcast tweet' his feelings..
Shock, perhaps.

I sense more will be learned of the BF in the days ahead.

BREAKING! Victim's Boyfriend Of Shooting Sends Out Tweet BEFORE Shooting of Tragedy!



The AC in the thread was kind enough to not wanting to make a seperate new thread on this but I felt it deserved its own thread!

So what happenned? Chris Hurst who is the boyfriend of the victim of the shooting that just took place, who also happens to be the anchor at the newsstation as well, sends out a tweet an 'interesting' time.

If you check out the time stamp from his tweet, it states taht its 6:34. If you check out the shooting on the time ...it was 6:45 am!!!

So he sends out a tragic tweet before the time of the shooting?

There are no 'timezone' errors. Google the time of shootings and they will show it occured at 6:45 am. Even Google 6:45 am and tons of news reports stated that was the time.

Google 6:34 am and you will find nothing.

Again, usually if there are differences with timezones, its the hours..not minutes.

Also Twitter is pinpoint accurate with their timestamps.

[stefano]

Yeah, there's nothing there. Twitter timestamps show your time, not the poster's time. That same tweet tells me it was posted at 4:34 PM my time, which was 10:34 AM EDT, four hours after the shooting. I suppose it was screencapped by someone in Alaska (or someone in Pacific zone where there's no daylight savings - is there such a place?) The one below (posted three minutes before the one above, it was the first tweet Chris Hurst sent on Wednesday) was screencapped by someone in CST.

[Wombaticus Rex]

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It's a bit odd that one of the very first actions he chooses to take is to pull out his device and 'broadcast tweet' his feelings..
Shock, perhaps.

More likely, the precise form of dementia that leads one to become a "broadcast personality" in the first place.

[stefano]

It's what people do these days. At the weekend someone I know posted on facebook that she'd found out her husband was cheating on her - I found that bizarre in the extreme, that that even occurred to her, but there you have it. There's a bit of religiousness to heavy internet use, I reckon. I cast mine eyes down unto my iPhone, whence cometh my help. Like those strange autocompletes on Google that make it obvious that many thousands of people consider the internet some sort of oracle.

[Belligerent Savant]

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Both good points, WR/Stefano.

Technology-enabled vanity/self-absorption.

[norton ash]

If it's not on my phone, it can't be real.

[divideandconquer]

Sorry, I was wrong about the tweet. Twitter defaults to Pacific time so he tweeted her death hours after, not minutes before. That said, from what I've seen, I think it was staged.

[Joao]

I'd be reluctant to condemn the tweeting too quickly. It's quite a state of shock when someone close dies unexpectedly, and everybody copes in their own unpredictable way.

I went into the office at night and worked for hours when I got news along similar lines (death, not murder). What the fuck else was I going to do. The guy was probably out of his mind.

[82_28]

Staged in what way and for what purpose? A few months ago there was a fire down the street, for example, and I went down to check it out. A news crew was there and I saw the news dude putting on his make up in the van for the live coverage. It would be easy to ambush them if you knew where they were headed. This was just a bland community interest piece for the morning news. Maybe the station didn't delete his email account and he was getting a feed for the day's assignments? Because how could he possibly know where they were going to be? I suppose he just waited outside the station and followed them.

[Novem5er]

I accidentally watched the shooting footage (Reuters, damn you!). It was a tiny clip inserted into a general news video about the crime. I'll admit, I was shocked to hear two gun shots, see the people on the screen "jump" and run, but then not see any blood.

And I'm thankful for that. I didn't want to see any real violence; I just wanted to know what the heck happened. I've actually avoided any gun violence in media for months and I'm slowly letting it back in, resigning myself to the fact that this is America and I don't want to jump every time I'm surprised by a firearm on the TV.

As far as the lack of blood and the running; I can only imagine that a small entry wound didn't create much blood to see, and that pure adrenaline kept them on their feet for a few seconds. My heart goes out to the families; a sentiment that is growing all too familiar.

[82_28]

My heart goes out to the lost souls and the families as well. But the "elephant in the room" is that it affected thousands of people watching it live. I have yet to see this aspect being addressed.

[divideandconquer]

Here's the thing. Either you trust the--especially national-- corporate owned, propaganda spewing mainstream media or you don't.

If one of the what seem like weekly acts of rampage violence gets national coverage on the scale of this incident or any of the timely tragedies we've seen thus far and they include things like long manifestos, perpetrators immediately tried and convicted by media, race-baiting, immediate call for gun-control, etc., I'm automatically suspicious. Then, when these scenes of staged government / media and law enforcement contrived events are riddled with inconsistencies, bad actors, and and in-your-face deeds that defy hard science and common sense, my suspicion quadruples.

If you look at the video I posted, you'll see:

Supposedly impassioned shooter saunter up and point gun within feet, maybe even inches of targets, than backs off and waits what seems like forever in this situation before he shoots.

No one notices him despite his clumsy approach

Reporter doesn't even react after the first "bullet"

Reporter sprints away after being shot at least three times with hollow point bullets which basically blow up your insides upon impact, then screen conveniently goes completely black as if its been edited.

No blood or wounds

No bullet impact or entry seen on reporter

No bullets eject and no bullet casing ejection...big flash and then nothing.

No gun recoil (only one hand holding while firing a powerful handgun)

“Black” gunman hand’s skin color is same as the white reporter

That's just the very tip...what anyone can see for themselves from a few minutes of poorly shot footage. Combine that with all of the other oddities--strange demeanor of the grief-stricken who always have A LOT to say, acting and/or sketchy/hard to pin down background of most or all involved, and how this well-timed event fits into their carefully calculated agenda to instill fear and confusion, divide the races, push for gun control while at the same time, ratcheting up the surveillance/security industrial complex and it's more than obvious.