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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby AlicetheKurious » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:05 am

I came across this very interesting summary of what's going down in Syria right now, and found it worth translating into English from Arabic. Though I wouldn't call "ISIS"/Daesh's true identity a secret, since it's common knowledge throughout the region.

I appreciated the writer's astute recognition of the fact that certain areas in Syria are being deliberately depopulated, obfuscating the Western imperialist rampage there, behind the manufactured "refugee crisis". I am strongly reminded of Deir Yassin: the savagery of the massacre in the Palestinian village of Deir Yassin on April 9, 1948, among others, was deliberately publicized by the Zionists, and used to whip up the panic that in the ensuing weeks, led thousands of Palestinians to flee their homes, leaving them empty for the Jewish colonizers to occupy.

Russian Strikes and Secrets Uncovered

The Russian air strikes, so suddenly initiated by Vladimir Putin, were not, contrary to what we are being told, against Daesh strongholds. That is because Daesh does not exist, at least in the sense being promoted by the United States, of an organization large and potent enough to require the intervention of powerful countries, let alone a coalition. Daesh does exist in small, scattered groups distributed strategically in the Arab world. Its true mission is to star in a series of movies, to be broadcast by the international news media, for the purpose of marketing and distributing the image of a terrifying, gigantic ghost, threatening the region and the world.

The Daesh groups and Jabhat al-Nusra and others, whose horrifying images have been beamed to audiences around the world, are also being used on the ground to whip up terror in certain regions to force people to flee their homes as refugees, from countries and areas targeted for depopulation. The Russians know this, and they know who is running the game on the ground, and who is orchestrating the fragmentation of Syria.

Thus, the Russians are now pounding the ground mercilessly in Syria, forcing it to give up its secret: that behind the whirlwind of terrorism sweeping the land of Syria is the International (so-called) "Muslim" Brotherhood headquartered in London, consisting on the ground, among others, of Syrian Army deserters, misleadingly named "The Free Syrian Army", being run by Israeli and American intelligence.

In the areas to be depopulated, a few dozen "Daesh" or "Nusra" terrorists are deployed to terrorize people with a massacre of helpless civilians here and there; after the atrocities are filmed by Western media specialists and marketed to the world as "Daesh" media productions, their part of the mission is finished. That's when the so-called "Free Syrian Army" moves into the territory and takes it over. President Putin is aware of this game, and cleverly surprised the Americans with his strikes, which at first stunned Obama at the sudden collapse of the whole intricate plan before he regained his senses and rushed to try to minimize the exposure of the "Arab Fall" plot that has been unfolding in the region since 2011 before it could be blown wide open and exposed.

Right now, America has offered to "coordinate" air-strikes against something that doesn't exist, in order to buy time to pull out its experts and sensitive equipment and documents currently with the FSA, which is but an armed subsidiary of the international "Muslim" Brotherhood based in London, through which the West's financial, logistical and other support is channeled. It appears to me that the US is now in the process of selling out this armed wing of the Muslim Brotherhood and is prepared to leave it to its dark fate at the hands of the Russians, whose strikes are becoming fiercer by the hour. America has been maneuvering to get the Russians to slow down their bombing, or at least to divert their attacks in other directions. But the Russians remain unrelenting in seeking and destroying their true targets, instead of America's decoys, which have been so useful in manipulating the region and the world.

America is now making a deal with Russia: "Don't blow my cover, allow me to quietly withdraw my personnel and equipment, and you can have the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria to do with as you wish." The Russians have never forgotten nor forgiven the Muslim Brotherhood for the beating they took in Afghanistan, which contributed to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

It appears the Russians have accepted the American offer, allowing the US and the West to preserve their cover and to withdraw the incriminating evidence in return for being given a free hand to destroy America's own agents, the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria, which otherwise will pose a constant security threat to the Russia presence in Syria. And the Russians will play along with this charade, wisely refraining from declaring that its targets are assets of the International Muslim Brotherhood, a tool of the US, which is the source of terrorism throughout Syria and the region. Russia is content with achieving its true objective, preserving Syria's integrity and its own alliance with the Syrian government. So Russia is going along with the Big Lie, killing the MB bastards and declaring them to be "Daesh". America, for its part, will do nothing; when Russia inflicts a particularly punishing blow against America's MB agents, it will protest that Russia is harming the "moderate" Syrian opposition and defenseless civilians, not Daesh. America's "participation" in the "War Against ISIS" will last only as long as it will take to pull out its personnel and spies and equipment, and other incriminating evidence; once they're out, America will leave Syria to Russia.

In the next article, we will shed light, God willing, on the Saudi role and Iran in Syria.

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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby AlicetheKurious » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:36 am

Hilarious. After all the Western media hysteria and hype, and 13 months of the very, very expensive so-called US-led coalition of 40 countries' war against "ISIS" (estimated to cost at least $5 billion per month), and after being confidently told by "experts" that defeating "ISIS" would take at least three years to accomplish, now the same Western media is telling us that "ISIS" is no big deal, and never was. Haha.

ISIS so weakened by Russian airstrikes and desertion it could be destroyed in HOURS

ISLAMIC STATE (ISIS) is now so fragile that its so-called Caliphate could be wiped out in a matter of HOURS, a top terror expert said today.

By NICK GUTTERIDGE, EXCLUSIVE
PUBLISHED: 06:00, Mon, Oct 5, 2015 | UPDATED: 08:10, Mon, Oct 5, 2015


Western and more recently Russian airstrikes, chaotic leadership and mass defections have weakened the jihadi group to such an extent that it would be unable to repel even a small invasion force.

A terror analyst told Express.co.uk that the fanatics have vastly exaggerated their military strength and called on Western leaders to launch a co-ordinated fightback which would obliterate the hate group.

Dr Afzal Ashraf said ISIS has become its own worst enemy with its campaign of terror against the West, which has prompted an international backlash.

And Dr Ashraf said that another atrocity on the scale of this summer's Tunisia beach massacre could result in boots on the ground and an end to ISIS' evil grip on power.

He said: "This mythical state will disappear in a matter of hours once the international community decides to act.

"It won't take very long at all to drive them, if not out of all of Iraq or Syria, then certainly the majority of their territories.

"They will hide in towns, but I would say do not to follow them as they would use innocent civilians as human shields.

"Leave them in these isolated settlements and they will soon lose control."

Last month it emerged that half of the group's fighters have now been killed, whilst others are deserting en masse after their salaries were slashed.

Dr Ashraf, a researcher at the respected Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) think tank, added that assessments of ISIS' military capabilities have been vastly overplayed.

He said: "They have built up this superhero status because of the way the Iraqi army just fell apart when they confronted it. But that was not very much to do with their ability to fight, it was to do with the Iraqi army, which just doesn't have a leadership that inspires. Once you've got a General running off you don't expect the soldiers to stand and fight.

"As a result, they have given the impression that they are far more capable than they are. If we had serious forces fighting in a coordinated battle against these people they wouldn't last very long at all."

Research by the Henry Jackson Society showed that the jihadis have been involved in the planning of just one Islamist attack in the last 14 months.

Instead, three quarters of those plotting atrocities in the group's name are inspired by online videos and had never had any contact with its fighters.

But Dr Ashraf said ISIS' strategy of promoting 'lone wolf' attacks will turn out to be its biggest blunder yet.

He said: "Late last summer when ISIS came under attack from Western forces it started to lash out, first through beheadings of Western hostages.

"The reason we've seen a fall in beheadings since then is because they achieved nothing. ISIS had a lot of demands and they never succeeded in those demands.

"Instead they are now encouraging attacks in other countries, but their actions both in terms of inspiring these attacks and in causing a refugee crisis have taken the heat off Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad and have put the focus of the main threat onto them.

"What's happening with these attacks, particularly the Tunisia attack, is that the British government has now taken an increasingly more assertive and aggressive role in the fight against them.

"ISIS has now achieved itself through its own actions what many politicians and people failed to do, and that's to galvanise the international community against it."

His comments came after Russian warplanes pounded nine ISIS outposts in Syria, obliterating a key command centre and potentially killing dozens more of its fighters.

Last week Kurdish troops sent fighters from the hated jihadi group running for the hills following a fierce firefight in northern Iraq.

The fearsome Peshmerga fighters captured several villages west of the key oil-rich city of Kirkuk, which is already in their sights. Link
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby Elvis » Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:50 pm



That's a perfect image, thanks.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby backtoiam » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:02 pm

Assuming that there is no secret deal between Russia, the U.S., and as Orlov put it in his article recently posted in the "Putin's Troll Factories" thread "Isis headquarters in London", theoretically Putin's moves will probably also give him control of Iraq and Afghanistan because he has Iran in his pocket too. And then there is China.

With this much support I suppose this would make Putin the "man" in the whole area? I cannot imagine what sort of response this may eventually bring from Israel, U.S., and London but I cannot imagine that they will take this lightly. They are like the Fabian turtle, "I move slow, but when I strike, I strike hard!" Next to their stealth, and their money system, the middle eastern oil fields are their crown jewel asset right now.

Which makes me wonder why Putin didn't put up a bigger fuss when they rolled into his backyard and took the pipelines in the Ukraine.

Russian naval ship crosses Turkey’s Dardanelles Strait, heads to Syria

A Russian Navy landing ship, the 112.5-meter-long Casear Kunikov, passed through Turkey’s Bosphorus and entered the Dardanelles en route to Syria early Sunday morning, as the Kremlin builds up forces in support of the Assad regime.

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Having made its way down from the Black Sea, and through the Bosphorus strait and the Marmara Sea, the Caeser Kunikov entered the Dardanelles Strait at around 8:50 a.m. local time (GMT 5:50 a.m.) on Sunday. Turkish press sources have stated that the ship’s final destination will be Syria’s Tartus port, where Russia operates a naval supply and maintenance base.

With Russia continuing air raids in Syria, in support of the regime of Bashar al-Assad, observers have noted the heavy Russian Navy traffic through Istanbul’s Bosphorus strait, which connects the Black Sea with the Mediterranean. Close to 70 Russian Navy ships have crossed through the Turkish Straits in 2015, according to a maritime news site.

Although Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has criticized Russia’s involvement in Syria, Turkey nonetheless has no authority to prevent ships from passing through the straits, per international agreements.

The Turkish Straits are a key access route for Russia, which has been limited in its options for sending military resources to Syria. In early September, NATO member Bulgaria denied the use of its airspace to Syria-bound Russian planes.

The commencement of Russian air raids in Syria has marked a significant shift in the dynamics surrounding the prolonged war. The United States has cautioned that the Kremlin’s involvement is more focused on supporting the Assad regime than on fighting the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL). “They've made a significant military investment now in further propping him [Assad] up,” said White House spokesman Josh Earnest.

The Russian air strikes began after Russian President Vladimir Putin met with U.S. President Barack Obama at the United Nations, the two leaders agreeing that their armed forces should keep communications open and avoid coming into conflict in Syria.

A U.S. defense official confirmed that talks between the United States and Russian militaries could take place within a day, possibly via secure video-conference or in person. The Pentagon aims to involve both civilian and uniformed defense officials in the talks.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby backtoiam » Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:27 pm

New pictures have been released as to "exactly" what is going on over there right now. Methods of "interrogating suspected militants." I warn you, and I mean it, do not, do not, do not, click this link unless you really want to see what our leaders are doing to these people. I seriously hesitate to post this link but it is the true reality of our situation. Considering that the Saudis will now have influence on the U.N. Human Rights Commission this is perhaps the most relevant issue facing each and every person alive. I warn you, do not click this link if you can't handle the graphic nature of it. Take that seriously. Angels fear to tread here.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby IanEye » Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:43 pm

backtoiam » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:02 pm wrote:
Which makes me wonder why Putin didn't put up a bigger fuss when they rolled into his backyard and took the pipelines in the Ukraine.



In an odd way, the sort of "tit-for-tat" back and forth reminds me of this:

No one was sure how Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev would respond to the naval blockade and U.S. demands. But the leaders of both superpowers recognized the devastating possibility of a nuclear war and publicly agreed to a deal in which the Soviets would dismantle the weapon sites in exchange for a pledge from the United States not to invade Cuba.
In a separate deal, which remained secret for more than twenty-five years, the United States also agreed to remove its nuclear missiles from Turkey.
Although the Soviets removed their missiles from Cuba, they escalated the building of their military arsenal; the missile crisis was over, the arms race was not.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby backtoiam » Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:56 pm

Yeah, Ianeye i'm not sure what is going on here and we won't know for a long time. Wombat said "memetic rap warfare is a joke. But we mean it." Or something similar. They mean it too. They ain't playing...My goal is to stay out of their way until I die of old age.

The reason I posted that last disgusting link...


The launch was made following the Leaders’ Summit on Countering ISIL and Violent Extremism.



Did The UN Really Install A Global Police Force At The Local Level?
Posted on October 5, 2015 by Admin

Activist Post – by Amanda Warren

While people were in a daze of reverie following the lunar eclipse and the Pope’s U.S. visit, a very important yet overlooked announcement was made by the Department of Justice.

“Launch of Strong Cities Network to Strengthen Community Resilience Against Violent Extremism” rang the bell to usher in a global-local initiative to ferret out extremism at the local level – yes, in the United States. Symbolically, it could also signal a turning point when it comes to local authorities and their treatment of the residents at large. Indeed, it is a global enmeshment that most Americans are either a) in the total dark about, or b) going hysterical over, if they’ve heard about it.

Honestly, either of those reactions is understandable when you start digging into the announcements and its sponsors only to find the typical convoluted, global-psycho-babble that signals to the astute that they are about to lose their rights and be perceived as domestic terrorists. But can anyone really say for sure? Of course not. Not when the message is written in Newspeak gibberish.
What is the Strong Cities Network and why did some U.S. cities join up?

On the face of it, SCN is to strengthen the bond between cities in the U.S. and global cities in the fight against violent extremism, internationally and at the local level. It will funnel help to local authorities of those cities which hop on board.

From the press release:

While many cities and local authorities are developing innovative responses to address this challenge, no systematic efforts are in place to share experiences, pool resources and build a community of cities to inspire local action on a global scale.

Technically, SCN doesn’t have much to do with the U.N. but people think of the U.N. because this action is global and the launch was announced on the margins of U.N. General Assembly in New York on September 29 by the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Prince Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein, and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio. To a lot of people, that match-up doesn’t bode well. The Keynote address came from U.S. Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch.

All cities are encouraged by them to join up, but the major U.S. cities that are currently a part of it are actually among the founding “Steering” committee. New York, Denver, Atlanta and Minneapolis are among the couple dozen founding cities across the world. They will all “steer” simultaneous action among city authorities and officials. And while SCN tries to portray itself as for the little guy, that couldn’t be further from the truth if you really browse around their website and cut through the B.S. language. Citizens will have virtually nothing to do with their decisions and actions unless they are of high community affluence. Just look at the information of their first global summit and see who it’s intended for and who will speak.

SCN’s Internation Advisory Board is run by by the Institute for Strategic Dialogue (ISD) which considers itself a leading international “think-and-do” tank. It began as The Club of Three, started in the mid-1990s by Lord Weidenfeld. The Institute for Strategic Dialogue was created in 2006 as an umbrella organization and also created initiatives like Against Violent Extremism, Extreme Dialogue,Counter Extremism and European Muslim Women of Influence.

Regular readers to this site probably don’t just think in terms of the U.N. power grab – but the myriad NGOs, institutes, think tanks, initiatives, corporate foundations etc. that seal and bolster global authority. That’s what this reeks of.

See if you can figure out the actual goals as extracted from the DOJ press release:

Garnering partnership of cities in international efforts to build social cohesion and resilience to violent extremism
Using persuasive voices of authorities and communities to challenge violent extremism in all of its forms and manifestations
Capacity-building and improvement of collaboration
To counter a range of domestic and global terror threats
To enable cities to learn from one another, to develop best practices
Will empower municipal bodies to fill this gap while working with civil society
Safeguard the rights of local citizens and communities
Determine action at all levels of governance to counter violent extremism
Coordinate our efforts and cooperate across borders
Connect cities, city-level practitioners and the communities through a series of workshops, trainings and sustained city partnerships
Provide an online repository of municipal-level good practices and web-based training modules and grants supporting innovative, local initiatives and strategies
International Steering Committee of approximately 25 cities and other sub-national entities from different regions that will provide the SCN with its strategic direction
Use collective lessons in this international platform for joint innovation

Does that leave you scratching your head as to what is really going to happen? It should, unless you know for a fact what social cohesion and community resilience really means. Their definition of violent extremism isn’t even laid out.

The launch was made following the Leaders’ Summit on Countering ISIL and Violent Extremism. A better way to counter terrorism would be to stop funding it! And stop projecting the Western-backed terrorism onto the people as though they are guilty. That’s why these actions should be a big concern.

Truthfully, the declaration of actions provided by SCN under Club of Three are clear as mud, and must undergo more inquiry and scrutiny before ever recognizing their actions as legitimate. Some of the inquiry might include a look at why the DOJ is bolstering this global “Steering” committee.

While some outlets are reading “social cohesion” to mean partnering up with Muslim fanatics to install Sharia Law in the U.S. – a more likely observation is that this initiative deflects from the major unresolved issue of State violence supported in some local law enforcement sectors.

If an initiative (or the DOJ) wanted to make sure violent extremism doesn’t happen to communities, it would address this systemic issue first instead of funnel more power its way and strengthen it “systemically” on an international scale.

Amanda Warren writes for Activist Post – see her recent articles HERE

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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby AlicetheKurious » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:38 am

backtoiam wrote:Assuming that there is no secret deal between Russia, the U.S., and as Orlov put it in his article recently posted in the "Putin's Troll Factories" thread "Isis headquarters in London", theoretically Putin's moves will probably also give him control of Iraq and Afghanistan because he has Iran in his pocket too. And then there is China.


If there's one thing that should be clear by now, it's that Iran is in nobody's pocket. Such glib declarations have nothing to do with reality, but do expose the blinding lens of assumptions through which almost all Westerners ("Left" and "Right") view the world. Iran is a player, plotting its own course and maneuvering with the other players to achieve its own national objectives. Those objectives are formulated in Tehran, nowhere else, and Iran's relations with the other players depend on how best those relations can serve Iran's goals in the region and the world. It's the same with China, and Russia and Egypt, and most of the world not in the "Western camp", a euphemism for those countries whose governments are shackled by the US, with little or no freedom to put their own nation's needs first, above those of their foreign masters. As Syria's President Assad has said (I'm paraphrasing from memory): "The US does not have allies, only vassals." This is true of the US, even in Europe, but not of Russia, which does not run any empire but forms tactical and strategic alliances to further its own goals, including defending its own freedom and independence from the US-led empire, as does China, as does Iran, as does Egypt, my own country which, together with Russia, is currently trying very hard to extricate the vassal state of Saudi Arabia from its toxic servitude to the Western camp, and in a very real sense, to liberate it. Iraq and Afghanistan are broken countries, and their recovery will depend on whether they remain under the US' whip and chains or choose freedom.

None of this has any relation to whether I personally like Iran, or applaud the objectives it's pursuing. But as a passionate member of the "reality-based community", I am forced to stick to the truth. It's only one small phrase, but with a world of false assumptions behind it.
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Postby kool maudit » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:54 am

Thank you for your contributions, Alice. Being unable to speak or read Arabic, I am looking at this at a remove that doubtlessly distorts things.

In terms of the "man on the street" in Cairo, Alexandria, or Damascus is it indeed common knowledge or at least assumed that "ISIS" are in fact a sort of exceedingly brutal theatrical troupe employed by the US and Israel for the purposes of destabilisation? It would explain a lot.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:53 am

How Putin will Win in Syria
by MIKE WHITNEY


The reason Putin will succeed where the US failed in its war on ISIS, is because the Russian air-strikes are going to be accompanied by a formidable mop-up operation that will overpower the jihadi groups on the ground. This is already happening as we speak. The Russian Air Force has been pounding terrorist targets across the Idlib Governorate for the last few days as well as ISIS strongholds in the East at Raffa. On Sunday, according to a report filed by South Front, roughly 700 militants surrendered to members of the 147th Syrian tank brigade shortly after bombers had attacked nearly cities of Mardeij, Ma’arat Al-Nu’man, Jisr Al-Shughour, Saraqib and Sarmeen. This is the pattern we expect to see in the weeks ahead. Russian bombers will soften targets on the frontlines, ground troops will move into position, and untold numbers of jihadis will either flee, surrender or get cut down where they stand. Bottom line: Syria is not going to be a quagmire as the media has predicted. To the contrary, Putin is going to cut through these guys like crap through a goose.

According to South Front: “Lieutenant General Andrey Kartapolov, head of the Main Operation Directorate of the General Staff of Russia’s armed forces, said the strikes have significantly reduced the terrorists’ combat capabilities.” In other words, the Russian offensive is already producing positive results. This is no small matter. By most accounts, the conflict had deteriorated into a stalemate. Now, with Russia in the picture, that’s changed. Now the table is clearly tilted in Syria’s favor.

Also, according to an earlier report: “The positioning of Russian aircraft in Syria gives the Kremlin the ability to shape and control the battle-space in both Syria and Iraq out of all proportion to the size of the Russian force.” (“International Military Review – Syria, Oct 5, 2015“, South Front)

The Russian air-base at Latakia is perfectly situated for providing air cover or bombing terrorist targets across the country. The Russian airforce will also make every effort to cut off supply lines and escape routes so that as many jihadis as possible are liquidated within Syria’s borders. This is why ISIS positions along the main highway to Iraq were destroyed on Sunday. The jihadi thugs will be given every chance to die in battle as they wish, but getting out alive is not going to be so easy.

There was an article in the Guardian on Sunday that caused quiet a stir among people who are following events in Syria. Here’s a clip:

“Regional powers have quietly, but effectively, channeled funds, weapons and other support to rebel groups making the biggest inroads against the forces from Damascus…..In a week when Russia made dozens of bombing raids, those countries have made it clear that they remain at least as committed to removing Assad as Moscow is to preserving him.

“There is no future for Assad in Syria,” Saudi foreign minister Adel Al-Jubeir warned, a few hours before the first Russian bombing sorties began. If that was not blunt enough, he spelled out that if the president did not step down as part of a political transition, his country would embrace a military option, “which also would end with the removal of Bashar al-Assad from power”. With at least 39 civilians reported dead in the first bombing raids, the prospect of an escalation between backers of Assad and his opponents is likely to spell more misery for ordinary Syrians.

“The Russian intervention is a massive setback for those states backing the opposition, particularly within the region – Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey – and is likely to elicit a strong response in terms of a counter-escalation,” said Julien Barnes-Dacey, senior policy fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations.” (“Gulf states plan military response as Putin raises the stakes in Syria“, Guardian)

Saudi Arabia poses no real threat to Putin’s operation in Syria. The Saudis may talk tough, but they already have their hands full with a crashing economy (due to plunging oil prices) and a war in Yemen they have no chance of winning. They’re certainly not going to get more deeply involved in Syria.

It is possible, however, that the Obama administration is planning to use the Saudis as cover for shoring up their support for opposition groups within Syria. There is a high probability that that will happen. Even so, there’s not an endless pool of crackpot mercenaries who want to face a modern airforce with precision-guided munitions for a couple hundred bucks a week. That’s not what you’d call “a job with a future”. Keep in mind, the various Intel agencies have already called in their chits and attracted as many of these dead-enders as they possibly could from far-flung places like Chechnya, Kosovo, Somalia, Afghanistan etc. And while I’m sure Langley keeps a lengthy file of potential candidates for future assignments, I’m also sure that there are a limited number of people who are willing to meet their Maker just so they can belong to some renegade organization and die with a machine gun in their hands. In fact, we may have already reached “peak terrorist” after which there could be a steady falloff following the downward trajectory of US power in the Middle East and around the world. As we shall undoubtedly see in the months ahead, Syria could very well be the straw that broke the Empire’s back. Here’s more from the Guardian:

“The best way to respond to the Russian intervention is to engage the rebels more and step up support so they can face down the escalation and create a balance on the ground,” he said. “The Russians will [then] realise there are limits to what they can achieve in Syria, and modify their approach.” But the wider regional struggle for influence between Saudi Arabia and Iran makes it almost impossible for Riyadh to walk away, whatever the cost.” (Guardian)

Is it just me or does the author of this piece sound positively elated at the prospect of a bloodier war?

Also, it would have helpful if he had mentioned that arming, funding and training disparate jihadi organizations to effect regime change in a sovereign nation is a violation of international law and the UN Charter. Of course, maybe the author thought that would have made his article too stuffy or pedantic? In any event, the idea that the enfeebled Saudis are going to derail the Russia-Iran-Syria-Hezbollah alliance in their drive to annihilate ISIS and al-Qaida-linked groups is a pipe-dream. The only country that could make a difference in the outcome, is the United States. And, the fact is, Washington’s neocons don’t have the cojones to take on Moscow mano-a-mano, so Putin’s clean-up operation is going to continue on schedule.

By the way, the pundits were wrong about the way the Russian people would react to Moscow’s involvement in Syria, too. As it happens, they’re quite proud of the way their forces have been conducting themselves. Of course, who wouldn’t be? They’ve been kicking ass and taking names since Day 1. Check out this report from CBS News:

“Whatever effect Russia’s airstrikes are having on the ground in Syria, their impact at home is clear: They prove to Russians that their country is showing up the United States and reclaiming its rightful place as a global power….

Channel One’s evening news program on Saturday opened with dramatic cockpit videos of Russian jets making what were described as direct hits on terrorist training camps and weapons stores. The bombs were never off by more than five meters, a military spokesman said, because of the jets’ advanced targeting capabilities.

This was followed by a report of the disastrous airstrike in the northern Afghan city of Kunduz that destroyed a hospital and killed at least 19 people, including international medical staff. U.S. responsibility for the airstrike had not been proven, but Russian viewers were left with little doubt of who was to blame or of whose military capabilities were superior.” (“Russia’s airstrikes in Syria are playing well at home”, CBS News)

So the Russian people are proud of the way Putin is fighting the war on terror. Is there something wrong with that? Many Americans are old enough to remember a time when they were proud of their own country too, when it actually stood up for the principles it espouses in its founding documents. That was quite a while ago though, sometime back in the “pre-Gitmo” era”.

One last thing: There’s an extraordinary article by author Aron Lund of the Carnegie Endowment titled “Putin’s Plan: What Will Russia Bomb in Syria?” What’s so interesting about the piece is that it was published on September 23, a full week before Russia entered the war, and yet, Lund seems to have anticipated Putin’s actual battle plan. Military geeks are going to love this piece which is well worth reading in full. Here’s a short blurb from the text:

“If at some point Putin decides to target other groups than the Islamic State, he’s not likely to stop at the Nusra Front. Whether right off the bat or after a while, he could easily widen the circle of attacks from al-Qaeda and start blasting away at every rebel group in Idlib, Hama, and Latakia under the pretext that they are either “terrorists” or “terrorist allies.” … the Kremlin has every reason to continue blurring the already indistinct dividing line between “extremist” and “moderate” rebels upon which Western states insist. Even though this neatly black and white categorization of Syria’s murky insurgency is at least partly fiction, it remains a politically indispensable formula for Western states that wish to arm anti-Assad forces. Which is precisely why erasing this distinction by extending airstrikes against all manners of rebels as part of an ostensibly anti-jihadi intervention, may turn out to be Putin’s long-term plan.

Blanket attacks on Syrian rebels on the pretext that they are all “al-Qaeda” would lead to much outraged commentary in the Western and Arab press. But to the Russian president it doesn’t matter if you think he’s Mad Vlad or Prudent Putin. He isn’t trying to win hearts and minds, least of all those of the Syrian rebels or their backers. Rather, he is trying to change the balance of power on the ground while firing missile after missile into the West’s political narrative. Whatever one thinks of that, it is a big and bold idea of the sort that sometimes end up working.” (“Putin’s Plan: What Will Russia Bomb in Syria”, Aron Lund, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace“)

We couldn’t agree more. Putin is not going to stop for anything or anyone. He’s going to nail these guys while he has them in his gun-sights, then he’s going to wrap it up and go home. By the time the Obama crew get’s its act together and realizes that they have to stop the bombing pronto or their whole regime change operation is going to go up in smoke, Putin’s going to be blowing kisses from atop a float ambling through Red Square in Moscow’s first tickertape parade since the end of WW2.


The Hope Behind Putin’s Syria Help
October 4, 2015

Exclusive: President Obama insists on looking the gift horse of Russian military help for Syria’s embattled government in the mouth. Rather than welcome assistance in blocking a Sunni extremist victory, Obama bends to the neocons and liberal hawks, as ex-CIA analyst Ray McGovern explains.

By Ray McGovern

Russia’s airstrikes on rebel strongholds in Syria, now in their fifth day, are a game-changer. To borrow an aphorism from philosopher Yogi Berra, “The future ain’t what it used to be.” Yogi also warned, “It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”

What follows, then, will focus primarily on how and why the violence in Syria has reached this week’s crescendo, the magnitude of the tipping point reached with direct Russian military intervention in support of Syria’s government, and the self-inflicted dilemma confronting President Barack Obama and his hapless advisers who have been demanding “regime change” in Syria as the panacea to the bloody conflict.

Think of this piece as an attempted antidote to the adolescent analysis by Steven Lee Myers front-paged in Sunday’s New York Times, and, for that matter, much else that’s been written about Syria in the Times and other mainstream U.S. news outlets. Many articles, in accusing Russian President Vladimir Putin of bad faith, have willfully misrepresented his vow to strike at all “terrorist groups” as meaning only the Islamic State as if Al Qaeda’s Nusra Front and other violent extremists don’t qualify as “terrorists.”

However, if Washington finally decides to face the real world – not remain in the land of make-believe that stretches from the White House and State Department through the neocon-dominated think tanks to the editorial pages of the mainstream media – it will confront a classic “devil-you-know” dilemma.

Does Washington really think that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, as demonized as he has been as a key player in a conflict blamed for killing more than 250,000, is worse than the beheaders of the Islamic State or the global-terrorism plotters of Al Qaeda? Does President Obama really think that some surgical “regime change” in Damascus can be executed without collapsing the Syrian government and clearing the way for an Islamic State/Al Qaeda victory? Is that a gamble worth taking?

President Obama needs to ask those questions to the State Department’s neocons and liberal interventionists emplaced by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who – like Israel’s leaders – positively lust for Assad’s demise. “Regime change” in Syria has been on the Israeli/neocon to-do list since at least the mid-1990s and the neocon idea last decade was that Assad’s overthrow would immediately follow the Iraq “regime change” in 2003, except the Iraq scheme didn’t work out exactly as planned.

But there may be some reason to hope. After all, Obama showed courage in overcoming the strong resistance of the neocons to the recent nuclear deal with Iran. So, he may have the intelligence and stamina to face them down again, although you wouldn’t know it from his recent rhetoric, which panders to the war hawks’ arguments even as he resists their most dangerous action plans.

At his news conference on Friday, Obama said, “in my discussions with President Putin, I was very clear that the only way to solve the problem in Syria is to have a political transition that is inclusive — that keeps the state intact, that keeps the military intact, that maintains cohesion, but that is inclusive — and the only way to accomplish that is for Mr. Assad to transition [out], because you cannot rehabilitate him in the eyes of Syrians. This is not a judgment I’m making; it is a judgment that the overwhelming majority of Syrians make.”

But Obama did not explain how he knew what “the overwhelming majority of Syrians” want. Many Syrians – especially the Christians, Alawites, Shiites and secular Sunnis – appear to see Assad and his military as their protectors, the last bulwark against the horror of a victory by the Islamic State or Al Qaeda’s Nusra Front, which is a major player in the so-called “Army of Conquest,” as both groups make major gains across Syria.

Obama’s cavalier notion, as expressed at the news conference, that “regime changes” are neat and tidy, easily performed without unintended consequences, suggests a sophomoric understanding of the world that is stunning for a U.S. president in office for more than 6 ½ years, especially since he adopted a similar approach toward Libya, which now has descended into violent anarchy.

Obama must realize that the alternative to Assad is both risky and grim – and some of the suggestions coming from presidential candidate Clinton and other hawks for a U.S. imposition of a “no-fly zone” over parts of Syria would not only be a clear violation of international law but could create a direct military clash with nuclear-armed Russia. This time, the President may have to get down off his high horse and substitute a reality-based foreign policy for his rhetorical flourishes.

Yet, it is an open question whether Obama has become captive to his own propaganda, such as his obsession with Syria’s use of “barrel bombs” in attacking rebel strongholds, as if this crude home-made weapon were some uniquely cruel device unlike the hundreds of thousands of tons of high explosives that the United States has dropped on Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and other countries in the last dozen years.

Does Obama really think that his “humanitarian” bombs – and those given to U.S. “allies” such as Saudi Arabia and Israel – don’t kill innocents? In just the past week, a Saudi airstrike inside Yemen reportedly killed some 131 people at a wedding and an apparent U.S. attack in Kunduz, Afghanistan, blasted a hospital run by Doctors Without Borders, killing at least 22 people.

(By contrast, too, The New York Times treated the Kunduz atrocity gingerly, with the cautious headline, “US Is Blamed After Bombs Hit Afghan Hospital,” noting that Defense Secretary Ashton Carter extended his “thoughts and prayers to everyone afflicted” and added that a full investigation is under way in coordination with Afghanistan’s government to “determine exactly what happened.” Surely, we can expect the slaughter to be dismissed as some unavoidable “accident” or a justifiable case of “collateral damage.”)

With Obama, one cannot exclude the possibility that he has become so infatuated with his soaring words that he actually believes what he told the West Point graduating class on May 28, 2014; but if he does, someone needs to give him a quick reality check. He told the graduates:

“In fact, by most measures, America has rarely been stronger relative to the rest of the world. Those who argue otherwise … are either misreading history or engaged in partisan politics. … So the United States is and remains the one indispensable nation. That has been true for the century passed and it will be true for the century to come.”

How We Got Here

The world could have taken a very different direction after the fall of the Berlin Wall in November 1989, the evaporation of the Warsaw Pact in February 1991, and the breakup of the Soviet Union in December 1991. Those developments left the United States in a virtually unchallenged position of power — and wise leaders might have seized the opportunity to wind down the world’s excessive investment in military hardware and war-like solutions.

But the U.S. government chose a different course, one of “permanent” global hegemony with American troops as the world’s “armed-up” policemen. Gulf War I, led by the United States in January-February 1991 to punish Iraq for invading Kuwait the previous summer, injected steroids into leading arrogant neocons like Paul Wolfowitz – already awash in hubris.

Shortly after that war, Gen. Wesley Clark recalled Wolfowitz (then Undersecretary of Defense for Policy) explaining the thinking: “We learned [from Gulf War I] that we can use our military in the region, in the Middle East, and the Soviets won’t stop us. And we’ve got about five or ten years to clean up those old Soviet client regimes – Syria, Iran, Iraq before the next great superpower comes on to challenge us.”

Clark highlighted this comment in an Oct. 3, 2007 speech, apparently thinking this might somehow enhance his credentials as a contender for the Democratic presidential nomination (see this highly instructive eight-minute excerpt).

Clark added that neocons like Bill Kristol and Richard Perle “could hardly wait to finish Iraq so they could move into Syria. … It was a policy coup. … Wolfowitz, [Vice President Dick] Cheney, [Defense Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld, and you could name a half-dozen other collaborators from the Project for a New American Century. They wanted us to destabilize the Middle East, turn it upside down, make it under our control.” [See Consortiumnews.com’s “Neocon ‘Chaos Promotion’ in the Mideast.”]

The ideology of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) was summarized in a 90-page report published in 2000 and titled, Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategies, Forces, and Resources For a New Century, which advocated a Pax Americana enforced by the “preeminence of U.S. military forces.”

The report emphasized that the fall of the Soviet Union left the U.S. the world’s preeminent superpower, adding that the U.S. must work hard, not only to maintain that position, but to spread its military might into geographic areas that are ideologically opposed to its influence, subduing countries that may stand in the way of U.S. global preeminence.

PNAC’s dogma, in turn, had antecedents in “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm,” a study written in 1996 for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as he was running for the election of his first government. That study was chaired by arch-neocon Richard Perle, who later served as Chair of Defense Secretary Rumsfeld’s Defense Policy Board (2001-2003); the majority of the study contributors were also prominent American neocons.

Here’s what Perle and associates, many of whom later found influential posts in the Bush/Cheney administration, had to say on Syria: “Given the nature of the regime in Damascus, it is both natural and moral that Israel abandon the slogan ‘comprehensive peace’ and move to contain Syria, drawing attention to its weapons of mass destruction program [sic], and rejecting ‘land for peace’ deals on the Golan Heights. …

“Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq – an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right – as a means of foiling Syria’s regional ambitions.”

Why Won’t Assad Do What He’s Told?

Given the hangover from the neocon binge during the Bush/Cheney years, one might say that President Obama was “under the influence” when he began calling for Assad to “step aside” in August 2011. Then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton chimed in, too, telling ABC, “Assad must go – the sooner the better for everyone concerned.”

The violence in 2011 was the catalyst for the civil war – as Assad’s forces cracked down on an “Arab Spring” uprising that while largely peaceful included extremist elements who killed police and ambushed troops. But the repeated unconditional-surrender demands from Secretary Clinton and other U.S. leaders that “Assad must go,” plus “covert” U.S. support for rebels fighting against Syrian government forces, surely raised expectations that Assad would bow out, making the capture of Damascus a promising prize for a variety of Sunni militants.

Particularly pathetic has been Washington’s benighted, keystone-cops support for so-called “moderate” rebels – an embarrassing fiasco if there ever was one. For a while, the “mainstream media” actually was taking note of this disaster within a disaster, after the Pentagon recently acknowledged that its $500 million project had produced only four or five fighters still in the field.

Even earlier, President Obama recognized the fallacy in this approach. In August 2014, he told New York Times’ columnist Thomas Friedman that trust in rebel “moderates” was a “fantasy” that was “never in the cards” as a workable strategy. But Obama bent to political and media pressure to “do something.”

As journalist Robert Parry pointed out, “Official Washington’s most treasured ‘fantasy’ … is the notion that a viable ‘moderate opposition’ exists in Syria or could somehow be created. That wish-upon-a-star belief was the centerpiece of congressional [approval in September 2014 of] a $500 million plan by President Barack Obama to train and arm these ‘moderate’ rebels.”

Even Pentagon-friend Anthony Cordesman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies recently conceded that “what is very clearly not happening is there has not been any meaningful military action or success on the part of any of the rebels that we have trained.”

Cordesman described the state of play in Syria as “convoluted,” noting that “In addition to Iran’s involvement in the conflict, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey have all sponsored armed groups in Syria, making it a surreal proxy playground, even by Middle East standards.”

Yet, this past week, the “moderate” Syrian rebels sprang back to prominence, at least in the mainstream U.S. media, when Russian planes began bombing targets associated with the Army of Conquest, a coalition which is dominated by Al Qaeda’s Nusra Front. This militant coalition suddenly was redefined as “moderate,” as part of the argument that Russia should only be attacking Islamic State targets.

The U.S. media also has downplayed where the Islamic State (also known as ISIS, ISIL or Daesh) came from. It was an outgrowth of the Sunni resistance to the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003 when the group was known as “Al Qaeda in Iraq.” It later splintered off from Al Qaeda over a tactical dispute, whether a fundamentalist Sunni caliphate should be started now (the ISIS view) or whether the focus should be on mounting terror attacks against the West (Al Qaeda’s view.)

Putin Chides US Failures

Putin reminded the world of this embarrassing history – and other damaging consequences of U.S. interventionism – during his Sept. 28 speech to the UN General Assembly when he noted: “The so-called Islamic State has tens of thousands of militants fighting for it, including former Iraqi soldiers who were left on the street after the 2003 invasion.

“Many recruits come from Libya whose statehood was destroyed as a result of a gross violation of UN Security Council Resolution 1973. And now radical groups are joined by members of the so-called ‘moderate’ Syrian opposition backed by the West. They get weapons and training, and then they defect and join the so-called Islamic State. …

“I’d like to tell those who engage in this: Gentlemen, the people you are dealing with are cruel but they are not dumb. They are as smart as you are. So, it’s a big question: who’s playing whom here? The recent incident where the most ‘moderate’ opposition group handed over their weapons to terrorists is a vivid example of that.”

The UN speech was not the first time Putin complained about the way U.S. officials have presented the factual circumstances of the Syrian conflict. On Sept. 5, 2013, he publicly accused Secretary of State John Kerry of lying to Congress in exaggerating the strength of “moderate” rebels in Syria.

Alluding to Kerry’s congressional testimony, Putin said: “This was very unpleasant and surprising for me. We talk to them [the Americans], and we assume they are decent people, but he is lying and he knows that he is lying. This is sad.” [See Consortiumnews.com’s “Rebuilding the Obama-Putin Trust.”]

But the pretense continues. Obama knows only too well the sorry state of the handful of intrepid “moderates” that may still be operating within Syria. By the same token, he does not need Putin to tell him of the danger from ISIS or Al Qaeda if these Sunni extremists (either separately or together) march into Damascus.

So the question becomes: Will Obama bring himself to see Russian military intervention as a positive step toward stabilizing Syria and creating the chance for a political settlement or will he cling to the “Assad must go” precondition, rejecting Russia’s help and risking an ISIS/Al Qaeda victory?

This Time the Russians Can Stop Us

There is another element here, creating an even graver risk. It is no longer 1991 when the triumphant neocons brushed aside hopes for global military de-escalation and instead pressed for worldwide U.S. military dominance. Under Putin, Russia has made clear that it will no longer sit back and let U.S. and NATO tighten a vise around Russia’s borders.

Regarding its “front yard” in Ukraine, Putin has sharply admonished those in the West who “want the Ukrainian government to destroy … all political opponents and adversaries [in eastern Ukraine]. Is that what you want? That’s not what we want and we won’t allow that to happen.”

Putin’s deployment of aircraft and other arms to Assad reflects a similar attitude toward events in Syria, which Russia considers part of its backyard. The message is clear: “Overthrow Assad with the prospect of a terrorist victory? We won’t allow that to happen.”

The risk here, however, is that the American neocons and liberal interventionists remain drunk on their dreams of a permanent U.S. global hegemony that doesn’t broach any rivalry from Russia, China or any other potential challenger to America’s “full-spectrum dominance.” If these war hawks don’t sober up – and if Obama remains their reluctant enabler – the chances that the crises in Ukraine or Syria could escalate into a nuclear showdown cannot be ignored.

Thus, Russia’s move last week was truly a game-changer; and Putin is no longer playing games. One can only hope Obama can break free from the belligerent neocons and liberal war hawks. [For more on this topic, see Consortiumnews.com’s “Obama Tolerates the Warmongers.”
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby coffin_dodger » Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:44 am

slad - If I may, I'd like to rewrite the first article you posted above...

The reason Putin will succeed where the US failed in its war on ISIS, is because the Russian air-strikes are going to be targeting ISIS troops... as opposed to Assad's.


There. Thanks. :wink
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Postby IanEye » Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:23 am

The Russian Air Force has been relentless over the Al-Raqqa Governorate, striking the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS) repeatedly at the city of Tabaqa; this has left the terrorist group with very little time to evade the swarming Russian fighter jets that were pounding their positions.
According to a source from the Syrian Air Defense, the Russian Air Force has struck the Tabaqa National Hospital and Tabaqa Military Airport in the Al-Raqqa Governorate’s western countryside, destroying the military barracks after two airstrikes above this large military base.
The source added that the Russian airstrikes did considerable damage to the Tabaqa Military Airport and Tabaqa National Hospital; these two sites are imperative to the terrorist group because one is their primary military base and the other is their primary headquarters in the Al-Raqqa Governorate.
In addition to their airstrikes inside Tabaqa, the Russian Air Force struck ISIS’ positions at the Al-‘Ajrawi Farms; this farm area is located outside of the Tabaqa Military Airport and used by the terrorist group as a weapons supply depot.


Oh my goodness, Russia bombed a hospital. Putin better be careful, or people on the internet might start saying mean things about him.

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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby backtoiam » Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:23 am

coffin_dodger » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:44 am wrote:slad - If I may, I'd like to rewrite the first article you posted above...

The reason Putin will succeed where the US failed in its war on ISIS, is because the Russian air-strikes are going to be targeting ISIS troops... as opposed to Assad's.


There. Thanks. :wink


thanx. i wanted to read that but damn its long. i don't have time this morning. :wink

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Postby Nordic » Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:43 am

backtoiam » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:48 pm wrote:
For example, nearly 5,000 migrants seeking asylum are crowded into what was once a U.S. military installation in Giessen, in western Germany, from where reports of numerous rapes, sexual assaults, and forced prostitution emanate. Four women’s organizations sent a letter to the minister of integration and social affairs in the German state of Hesse, charging that many of the men in the camps regard women as “inferior,” and consider unaccompanied women as “fair game.” The letter added, “These are not isolated incidents.”

And it is not just adult women.

Johannes-Wilhelm Roerig, Germany's federal commissioner for child sexual abuse issues, expressed concern that refugee children are also victims of sexual assault. At the migrant camp in Detmold, in central Germany, a 13-year-old Muslim girl was raped by a fellow migrant. A local newspaper’s investigation uncovered that the police had tried to keep news of the incident from leaking out, fearing it would give “legitimacy” to critics of mass migration. Detmold Police Chief Bernd Flake did not apologize for the incident, but rather insisted that the policy of not reporting crimes in the migrant facilities would continue.
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This is a right wing "news" site and should be taken with a large grain of salt.

Just last night I found a couple of threads on FB where stupid middle Americans were railing about those "migrants" and talking about "we're letting in terrists!" And they were going on about the "rapes and murders" going on with "those people".

I was wondering where they got their heads filled with that shit. And here it is.
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Postby General Patton » Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:08 am

Nordic » Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:43 am wrote:

This is a right wing "news" site and should be taken with a large grain of salt.

Just last night I found a couple of threads on FB where stupid middle Americans were railing about those "migrants" and talking about "we're letting in terrists!" And they were going on about the "rapes and murders" going on with "those people".

I was wondering where they got their heads filled with that shit. And here it is.


Likewise, I would recommend taking all mainstream leftwing websites who support the refugee policy without question with a giant grain of salt. I'm surprised they've even been covering the riots.

The camps are filled to the brim with men, mostly from countries that are not known for female rights. Is rape really that unimaginable?

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6527/ ... pe-germany
Over the weekend of June 12-14, a 15-year-old girl housed at a refugee shelter in Habenhausen, a district in the northern city of Bremen, was repeatedly raped by two other asylum seekers. The facility has been has been described as a "house of horrors" due to the spiraling violence perpetrated by rival gangs of youth from Africa and Kosovo. A total of 247 asylum seekers are staying at the shelter, which has a capacity for 180 and a cafeteria with seating for 53.

Meanwhile, the raping of German women by asylum seekers is becoming commonplace. Following are a few select cases just from 2015:

On September 11, a 16-year-old girl was raped by an unidentified "dark-skinned man speaking broken German" close to a refugee shelter in the Bavarian town of Mering. The attack occurred while the girl was walking home from the train station.

On August 13, police arrested two Iraqi asylum seekers, aged 23 and 19, for raping an 18-year-old German woman behind a schoolyard in Hamm, a city in North Rhine-Westphalia.

On July 26, a 14-year-old boy was sexually assaulted inside the bathroom of a regional train in Heilbronn, a city in southwestern Germany. Police are looking for a "dark skinned" man between the ages of 30 and 40 who has an "Arab appearance." Also on July 26, a 21-year-old Tunisian asylum seeker raped a 20-year-old woman in the Dornwaldsiedlung district of Karlsruhe. Police kept the crime secret until August 14, when a local paper went public with the story.

On June 9, two Somali asylum seekers, aged 20 and 18, were sentenced to seven-and-a-half years in prison for raping a 21-year-old German woman in Bad Kreuznach, a town in Rhineland-Palatinate, on December 13, 2014.

On June 5, a 30-year-old Somali asylum seeker called "Ali S" was sentenced to four years and nine months in prison for attempting to rape a 20-year-old woman in Munich. Ali had previously served a seven-year sentence for rape, and had been out of prison for only five months before he attacked again. In an effort to protect the identity of Ali S, a Munich newspaper referred to him by the more politically correct "Joseph T."

On May 22, a 30-year-old Moroccan man was sentenced to four years and nine months in prison for attempting to rape a 55-year-old woman in Dresden. On May 20, a 25-year-old Senegalese asylum seeker was arrested after he attempted to rape a 21-year-old German woman at the Stachus, a large square in central Munich.

On April 16, a 21-year-old asylum seeker from Iraq was sentenced to three years and ten months in prison for raping a 17-year-old girl at festival in the Bavarian town of Straubing in August 2014. On April 7, a 29-year-old asylum seeker was arrested for the attempted rape of a 14-year-old girl in the town of Alzenau.

On March 17, two Afghan asylum seekers aged 19 and 20 were sentenced to five years in prison for the "particularly abhorrent" rape of a 21-year-old German woman in Kirchheim, a town near Stuttgart, on August 17, 2014.

On February 11, a 28-year-old asylum seeker from Eritrea was sentenced to four years in prison for raping a 25-year-old German woman in Stralsund, along the Baltic Sea, in October 2014.

On February 1, a 27-year-old asylum seeker from Somalia was arrested after attempting to rape women in the Bavarian town of Reisbach.

On January 16, a 24-year-old Moroccan immigrant raped a 29-year-old woman in Dresden.

Dozens of other cases of rape and attempted rape — cases in which police are specifically looking for foreign perpetrators (German police often refer to them as Südländer, or "southerners") — remain unresolved. Following is a partial list just for August 2015:

On August 23, a "dark skinned" man attempted to rape a 35-year-old woman in Dortmund. On August 17, three male "southerners" attempted to rape a 42-year-old woman in Ansbach. On August 16, a male "southerner" raped a woman in Hanau.

On August 12, a male "southerner" attempted to rape a 17-year-old woman in Hannover. Also on August 12, a male "southerner" exposed himself to a 31-year-old woman in Kassel. Police say a similar incident occurred in the same area on August 11.

On August 10, five men of "Turkish origin" attempted to rape a girl in Mönchengladbach. Also on August 10, a male "southerner" raped a 15-year-old girl in Rinteln. On August 8, a male "southerner" attempted to rape a 20-year-old woman in Siegen.

On August 3, a "North African" raped a seven-year-old girl in broad daylight in a park in Chemnitz, a city in eastern Germany. On August 1, a male "southerner" attempted to rape a 27-year-old woman in downtown Stuttgart.

Meanwhile, parents are being warned to look after their daughters. Police in the Bavarian town of Mering, where a 16-year-old-girl was raped on September 11, have issued a warning to parents not to allow their children to go outside unaccompanied. They have also advised women not to walk to or from the train station alone because of its proximity to a refugee shelter.

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In the Bavarian town of Pocking, administrators of the Wilhelm-Diess-Gymnasium have warned parents not to let their daughters wear revealing clothing in order to avoid "misunderstandings" with the 200 Muslim refugees housed in emergency accommodations in a building next to the school.



It goes on for awhile. I know many of you here endorse at least feminist ideas, why is the thought of a large groups of men from a patriarchal culture raping women such an unthinkable idea?
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