David Talbot set to directly accuse Dulles of JFK murder

[RocketMan]

Talbot's book The Devil's Chessboard is coming out in the US next October, I've got mine on pre-order already. In the book Talbot will marshal evidence against Dulles as the "chairman of the board of the assassination". Notably also Jim DiEugenio pointed the finger at Dulles in his recent new edition of Destiny Betrayed and Lisa Pease is also on the record as accusing Dulles and James Jesus Angleton of participating in the plot to assassinate JFK.

Fiat justitia ruat caelum.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024105197

...I think what we're going to show over the next few years is that Allen Welsh Dulles was much more centrally involved in the assassination of President Kennedy, and its cover-up, than Lee Harvey Oswald.

Fifty years later, it's finally time to give the man his rightful place in history. In his day, Allen Dulles was America's most legendary spymaster, the longest-serving director of the CIA. He took great pleasure in regaling the public about his espionage triumphs. But, for obvious reasons, he could never take credit for his biggest and boldest covert operation:
the killing of the President of the United States in broad daylight on the streets of an American city.

I hope that my forthcoming book, which will be titled "The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, JFK and the Epic Battle for America's Soul" will at long last give Mr. Dulles his due. As I say in my title of my remarks this morning, I believe Allen Dulles truly was the "Chairman of the Board of the Kennedy Assassination."

In September 1965, nearly two years after Kennedy was violently removed from office, Allen Dulles went for a stroll near his home in Georgetown with a young magazine editor named William Morris. The old spymaster, long since retired, struck Morris as an amiable, avuncular character until the name Kennedy suddenly came up in the conversation. Suddenly a dark cloud crossed the old man's brow.

"That little Kennedy," he spat out. "He thought he was a god."

Allen Dulles knew who the true overlords of American power were. (They were) men like him and his brother, not Jack and Bobby Kennedy. The Kennedys were mere upstarts in comparison to the Dulles family. The Dulles dynasty boasted diplomats and international bankers and three secretaries of state. The Kennedy clan, by comparison, was distinguished by saloon keepers and ward healers. When paterfamilias Joseph Kennedy was amassing his fortune as a movie mogul and stock gambler, Dulles and his older brother were running Wall Street from their perch at the world's largest law firm, Sullivan and Cromwell and creating a new global financial order.

During the Cold War, President Eisenhower outsourced the country's foreign policy to the Dulles Brothers, with Secretary of State John Foster Dulles serving as the architect of Washington's global crusade against communism, and Allen Dulles carrying out the darker chores of empire.

Soviet leader Nikita Krushchev who kept looking for a way out of the Cold War noose but found himself repeatedly checkmated by the Dulleses remarked at one point, "One shuddered at what great force was in the Dulles Brothers' hands."

The Dulles Brothers stood at the very apex of American power, straddling an elite network that connected Wall Street, Washington, big oil and international finance. John Foster Dulles was the ultimate counselor for that overworld that ruled the country's government and business, and his younger brother Allen was at privileged circles master of intrigue and subversion, its enforcer...

[seemslikeadream]

thanks...I knew I'd see Octafish when I clicked on that link

[semper occultus]

...looks interesting...I'm not really a JFK-head...wish I had more time to get into it.....my initial thought is Dulles was on the Warren Commission.....googling allen dulles warren commission I get 2 early hits to the effect that his appointment owed alot to the support & or endorsement of RFK - which is ironic or odd :

Dulles was actually recommended by Bobby Kennedy

Bobby appointed Dulles to be a member of the Warren Commission.

[stillrobertpaulsen]

...looks interesting...I'm not really a JFK-head...wish I had more time to get into it.....my initial thought is Dulles was on the Warren Commission.....googling allen dulles warren commission I get 2 early hits to the effect that his appointment owed alot to the support & or endorsement of RFK - which is ironic or odd :

Dulles was actually recommended by Bobby Kennedy

Bobby appointed Dulles to be a member of the Warren Commission.

Well, yeah, John McAdams as well as David von Pein, David Reitzes and other professional Warren Commission suck-ups have spent an inordinate amount of time making sure that if you put any JFK assassination related series of words into Google, their links pop up at the top. The whole concept that RFK, after having a front row seat to the Bay of Pigs debacle and JFK's firing of Dulles, would request that he be appointed to the commission investigating his brother's death would be laughable if it weren't so insulting to his memory. I believe the origin for that particular piece of propaganda is Gus Russo, but I'll have to re-check the research on that.

[Nordic]

Dulles seems like the primary suspect, to me, and I'm not even that much of a "JFK head".

Doesn't take that much research to get to that point.

I would LOVE it if this were to become conventional wisdom and accepted truth.

[Joao]

Upcoming event for those of us around San Francisco:

David Talbot: The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government

Thursday, October 22, 7:30 PM
First Congregational Church, 2345 Channing Way, Berkeley

• advance tickets $12: brownpapertickets.com, 800-838-3006 or Pegasus (3 sites), Moe's, Walden Pond Bookstore, Diesel a Bookstore, Mrs. Dalloway's, S.F. - Modern Times
• $15 door

Hosted by Quincy McCoy
KPFA Radio 94.1FM, http://www.kpfa.org/events

Here is an explosive portrait of Allen Dulles, the man who transformed the CIA into a powerful, secretive and ruthless organization that changed world history and dragged America from democracy into this national security state. It is our greatest untold story: the United States' rise to complete world dominance under the guise of Allen Dulles, the longest-serving director of the CIA.

Drawing on revelatory new materials including recently discovered US government documents, US and European intelligence sources, the personal correspondence and private journals of Dulles's wife and mistress, plus exclusive interviews with the children of prominent CIA officials David Talbot reveals the dark underside of one of America's most influential figures. Dulles's decade as director of the CIA, which he covertly used to further his own public and private agendas, was a horrific time in American politics. Deeming himself above the law, Dulles manipulated and subverted U.S. presidents in pursuit of his own interests and those of the wealthy elite he counted as friends and clients colluding with Nazi-controlled cartels, German war criminals and Mafiosi in the process. Targeting foreign leaders for assassination and overthrowing nationalist governments not in accord with his political aims, Dulles went on to employ the same tactics in the U.S., Talbot contends, including persuasive new evidence concerning the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

"THE DEVIL'S CHESSBOARD is really about the power elite, the corporate executives, government leaders, and top military officials who controlled the world. They protected corporate interests in Iran, Guatemala and elsewhere, and they fomented revolutions, experimented in mind control, and assassinated those who got in their way. Ultimately, the blatant manipulative activities of the Dulles brothers will shock most readers but all engaged American citizens should read this book and have their eyes opened." Kirkus starred review

DAVID TALBOT is the founder and former CEO of Salon.com, and was senior editor at Mother Jones magazine, plus features editor at the San Francisco Examiner. He has written for the New Yorker, Rolling Stone, Time and other major publications. He is also the author of the New York Times bestseller Brothers: The Hidden History of the Kennedy Years, and the national bestseller Season of the Witch.

Also, for others like me who prefer auditory learning, I note that the book will be released in audio format.

It would be interesting to see an honest comparison between the work and impact of Allen Dulles + J. Edgar Hoover vs. that of Felix Dzerzhinsky + Lavrentiy Beria.

Edit: Looks like he's all over SF in October. I believe he lives here.

• David Talbot: Wed. Oct 21, 2015 - 6:30PM. The Commonwealth Club, 555 Post St., San Francisco ($20)
• David Talbot: Wed. Oct 28, 2015 - 7:00PM, City Lights Booksellers, 261 Columbus Ave, San Francisco

City Lights will probably be free and tends to draw an SF fringe intelligentsia crowd (what's left of them), though it's small and can get a bit packed.

Commonwealth Club will be an interesting scene--never been there but I tend to think of it as being full of old, white limousine liberals. Typical guests include the likes of Condi Rice and Janet Napolitano. I note the title of the talk there is only "The Rise of America's Secret Government", omitting Dulles and CIA from the headline.

Finally, Berkeley First Congregational is the biggest and least "personal" for those seeking to evade facial recognition algorithms or direct recruitment by CIA cut-outs.

[RocketMan]

Thanks MinM for the link

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/15/every_p ... socialflow

“Every president has been manipulated by national security officials”: David Talbot exposes America’s “deep state”

[PufPuf93]

Upcoming event for those of us around San Francisco:

Also, for others like me who prefer auditory learning, I note that the book will be released in audio format.

It would be interesting to see an honest comparison between the work and impact of Allen Dulles + J. Edgar Hoover vs. that of Felix Dzerzhinsky + Lavrentiy Beria.

Edit: Looks like he's all over SF in October. I believe he lives here.

• David Talbot: Wed. Oct 21, 2015 - 6:30PM. The Commonwealth Club, 555 Post St., San Francisco ($20)
• David Talbot: Wed. Oct 28, 2015 - 7:00PM, City Lights Booksellers, 261 Columbus Ave, San Francisco

City Lights will probably be free and tends to draw an SF fringe intelligentsia crowd (what's left of them), though it's small and can get a bit packed.

Commonwealth Club will be an interesting scene--never been there but I tend to think of it as being full of old, white limousine liberals. Typical guests include the likes of Condi Rice and Janet Napolitano. I note the title of the talk there is only "The Rise of America's Secret Government", omitting Dulles and CIA from the headline.

Finally, Berkeley First Congregational is the biggest and least "personal" for those seeking to evade facial recognition algorithms or direct recruitment by CIA cut-outs.

Offtopic

The San Francisco Commonwealth Club hosted Michael Ruppert regards to Crossing the Rubicon in 2004. I bought the book and thought questions about 9-11 were going to be treated with some gravitas because of the rollout at Commonwealth Club.

https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2004/ ... 940031.php


Text of Michael Ruppert's Speech at the Commonwealth Club Last Night

by repost
Wednesday Sep 1st, 2004 9:34 AM

I will name Richard Cheney as the prime suspect in the mass
murders of 9/11 and will establish that, not only was he a planner in
the attacks, but also that on the day of the attacks he was running a
completely separate Command, Control and Communications system which was superceding any orders being issued by the NMCC [National
Military Command Center], or the White House Situation Room.



Michael Ruppert gave a groundbreaking speech at the "Commonwealth
Club" in San Francisco on Tuesday, August 31. The PDF file of the
speech is attached, and is downloadable at

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/PDF/Commonwealth.pdf

The speech is long, but
a must read for anyone interested in the future of the United States,
peak oil, 9/11, the 2004 election, and related topics. There are
very few journalists digging up credible new information about 9/11,
but this speech -- a teaser for Ruppert's upcoming book -- is full of
critical information that should be on the front page of every
newspaper on the planet. It would be difficult to exaggerate the
importance of this information.

------------------------------------------

This was a flyer from the event (please share widely -- and please
order a copy of the book at when it is available in a few weeks):

Announcing the release of Michael C. Ruppert's new book

CROSSING THE RUBICON: The Decline of the American Empire at the End
of the Age of Oil"
Michael C. Ruppert
foreword by Catherine Austin Fitts
(New Society Publishers)

Crossing the Rubicon: the Decline of the American Empire at the End
of the Age of Oil by Michael C. Ruppert is a detective story that
gets to the innermost core of the 9/11 attacks. It places 9/11 at
the center of a desperate new America, created by specific, named
individuals in preparation for Peak Oil: an economic crisis like
nothing the world has ever seen.

The attacks of September 11th, 2001 were accomplished through an
amazing orchestration of logistics and personnel. Crossing the
Rubicon discovers and identifies the key suspects and persons of
interest -- finding some of them in the highest echelons of American
government -- by showing how they acted in concert to guarantee that
the attacks occurred and produced the desired result.

In describing the contents of the book he has spent two and a half
years researching and writing Ruppert said:

"In my new book I will be making several key points:

1. I will name Richard Cheney as the prime suspect in the mass
murders of 9/11 and will establish that, not only was he a planner in
the attacks, but also that on the day of the attacks he was running a
completely separate Command, Control and Communications system which was superceding any orders being issued by the NMCC [National
Military Command Center], or the White House Situation Room.

2. I will establish conclusively that in May of 2001, by
presidential order, Richard Cheney was put in direct command and
control of all wargame and field exercise training and scheduling
through several agencies, especially FEMA. This also extended to all
of the conflicting and overlapping NORAD drills on that day.

3. I will also demonstrate that the TRIPOD II exercise being set up
on Sept. 10th in Manhattan was directly connected to Cheney's role.

4. I will also prove conclusively that a number of public officials,
at the national and New York City levels, including then Mayor
Rudolph Giuliani, were aware that Flight 175 was en route to lower
Manhattan for 20 minutes and did nothing to order the evacuation of
or warn the occupants of the South Tower. One military officer was
forced to leave his post in the middle of the attacks and place a
private call to his brother -- who worked at the WTC -- warning him
to get out. That was because no other part of the system was taking
action.

5. I will also show that the Israeli and British governments acted
as partners with the highest levels of the American government to
help in the preparation and, very possibly, the actual execution of
the attacks."

[backtoiam]

The only person I am aware of that seriously tried to convey deep true inner workings of the Octupus that truly put Sept 11 together ended up with a quick visit from the men in black and they beat him soundly in his front yard, among other things, many other things. I don't know what happened with him but you don't hear anything out of him anymore. He drilled it all the way down to where the materials were procured that were used, and specific names involved. He did not speak in generalities about nebulous politicians, government agencies, governments that were stupid and bungled their job. He struck the root. Needless to say he stopped striking roots.

If this guy really intends to do this:

5. I will also show that the Israeli and British governments acted
as partners with the highest levels of the American government to
help in the preparation and, very possibly, the actual execution of
the attacks."

Name names, show the supply chain, instead of making it look like gross error, you know, like the incompetency of the government paying $300.00 for toilet seats and hammers, why is he not here already?

[backtoiam]

Nevermind. I just read this.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/PDF/Commonwealth.pdf

I sea...

edit
actually on further look i don't sea yet. i need to read more of that.

[Project Willow]

Bumping, because a marginally mainstream voice is vindicating a multitude of "conspiracy theorists" through a (less) limited hangout that has the potential to go farther than previous (more) limited hangouts. Such a thing should hover near the top of the forum.

Waiting for the day when mind control, mass rape of children and human sacrifice are factored into the motivational and relational bonds of the various players. It may be another hundred years.

[zangtang]

or less than ten....

[Searcher08]

The only person I am aware of that seriously tried to convey deep true inner workings of the Octupus that truly put Sept 11 together ended up with a quick visit from the men in black and they beat him soundly in his front yard, among other things, many other things. I don't know what happened with him but you don't hear anything out of him anymore. He drilled it all the way down to where the materials were procured that were used, and specific names involved. He did not speak in generalities about nebulous politicians, government agencies, governments that were stupid and bungled their job. He struck the root. Needless to say he stopped striking roots.

If this guy really intends to do this:

5. I will also show that the Israeli and British governments acted
as partners with the highest levels of the American government to
help in the preparation and, very possibly, the actual execution of
the attacks."

Name names, show the supply chain, instead of making it look like gross error, you know, like the incompetency of the government paying $300.00 for toilet seats and hammers, why is he not here already?

The sign of whether one is one track around 9/11 is whether a person has been directly threatened or roughed up for the investigation.
From a scan of all the experiences I have read about (of investigators), there are three strands which get extreme press-back

1 Israeli connections
Dig around Systems Planning Corporation and people will arrive to beat you on your front lawn, as Chris Bollyn found out.

2 Saudi - IT connections
Just ask Indira Singh. If you can find her.

3 Pakistani ISI / Drug connections
The deep south medic who met several of the hijackers
and made the mistake of reporting it to the FBI


FWIW I disagree that Cheney was the top of the tree. From all accounts he is actually quite conservative in his approach.

I would say that the "Programme Director", needed to combine extreme aggression, off the scale ruthlessness, a military background and have the detail and intelligence to frame the programme in such a way that there was a 'plausible deniability' communication barrier between the group of architects and the "roll-out team"...
Donald Rumsfeld for me fits that perfectly.

Small details - when he was Sec Def, he had kept a small piece of the aircraft (missile) that hit the Pentagon on his desk...; the rumours pointing to where the Abu Ghraib videos ended up; ugh.

[zangtang]

one day i must find out for defo (not sure google earth will help here)
whether there really is a privately-owned railway line that runs right to Pine Gap (Australia, presumably from the East or South East)

apparently Rumsfeldt is a part-owner. Cant recall where I 'learned' that. Interesting 'investment'

on reflection, thats hugely O/T, a mere speculatives footnote to Searchers addendum re Cheney.

[Lord Balto]

Bumping, because a marginally mainstream voice is vindicating a multitude of "conspiracy theorists" through a (less) limited hangout that has the potential to go farther than previous (more) limited hangouts. Such a thing should hover near the top of the forum.

Waiting for the day when mind control, mass rape of children and human sacrifice are factored into the motivational and relational bonds of the various players. It may be another hundred years.

Being as both Gen. Victor Krulak and Col. Fletcher Prouty identified Ed Lansdale--the veritable King of the Limited Hangout and most likely Malcolm X's head chicken he saw coming home to roost--in one of the "tramp" photos from Dealey Plaza, I have to assume that the Allen Dulles explanation may have been modified to look like a limited hangout, but most likely is the actual truth. Both Dulles and Lansdale were ex-CIA at the time, suggesting either an independent operation or a mainly successful attempt to distance themselves from any future identification of the actual culprits.

As for the WTC/Pentagon caper, if I were studying that seriously, I would first have to determine who is currently doing Lansdale's job of overthrowing governments for the Çpooks In America.