Russian military buildup in Syria...

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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby AlicetheKurious » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:16 pm

Searcher08 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:28 pm wrote:Amazing to think in the 21st century, there are people who are so disconnected from reality as the writer of that piece, who hide behind a PoMo double-quote-friendly word salad and who have earnest, deeply constrained arguments with others similar to themselves about heads of pins, who consider themselves the Guardians of The Only Path - and are ultimately determined to see the whole world marching on that Only Path, at the point of a bayonet if needs be.


I'm impressed you actually read it. You're a better man than I, my friend. My eyes kept sliding over its slippery, oily surface.
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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby kool maudit » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:54 pm

American Dream feels the left/right divide remains the crucial one. I don't think Critical Theory is very useful as far as this situation goes.
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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:46 pm

Democracy in Action: US Media Issues Instructions How to Bring Russia Down
13:00 22.10.2015(updated 13:55 22.10.2015)

With President Putin’s approval rating hitting a new high of 89.9 percent, despairing US media outlets are furiously digging up new ways to try and bring Russia down a peg or two; witness the new, frankly insulting, attempt by the American Interest magazine.


American media seems to be tired of waiting for Russia and President Putin to make mistakes in the international arena. Meanwhile, Russia’s success in Syria is seemingly stirring ill feeling in many media outlets.

Jeffrey Gedmin, a Senior Fellow at Georgetown University and Senior Fellow at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue has issued instructions on how to cope with Russia. However, intelligent dialogue is clearly not what the political analyst is calling for.

“If we’re lucky, Russian forces in Syria will meet a similar fate as the Soviets in Afghanistan. But it’s also urgent we regroup from the shambles that is the Obama Administration’s foreign policy,” he writes in his article in The American Interest magazine.

Having laid out America’s suggested “larger aims,” the author pitched upon “a key problem at hand,” which, unsurprisingly, tuned out to be President Putin.

“We must end the insidious cycle whereby Russian President Vladimir Putin acts and we scramble to react. Playing whack-a-mole siphons precious resources and chips away at our reputation as a world leader,” he declares.

Backing up his argument with the declared purpose of “a Europe whole and free, with a strong NATO and a stable, prosperous European Union. In the Middle East — current chaos notwithstanding — we want American primacy (not hegemony) in order to protect our economic and security interests and, where and when possible, to advance the cause of democracy and human rights,” the author blames President Putin for America's failure to achieve these goals.

“In both cases, Putin — a cunning opportunist and master of playing a weak hand strongly — has become far more than a mere annoyance. Putin wants to build Russia up by cutting America down. He needs his comeuppance. We need a strategy to contain him, and to prepare for improved relations with Russia once Vlad (our impaler) is gone.”

The moves suggested by the author, however, still have President Putin in mind. And here is what the author is calling for.

First come arms, arms and more arms.

Additional troops and tanks to the Baltics and Poland. Arm Ukraine. “Find ways to embed the Scandinavians in all of this, including non-NATO members Finland and Sweden.”

In case arms are not enough, sanctions will help.

“They need to be expanded and sustained.”

“We should also target more members of the Kremlin’s inner circle, including preventing their spouses and children from vacationing or studying abroad. A step in this direction is much more likely to put pressure on Putin directly.”

But what if sanctions also fail? The author has yet another answer: information war.

“The way to deflate Russia’s malign nationalism is to end Putin’s string of perceived victories — Georgia, Ukraine, Syria, and other instances where he thumbs his nose at the West — and show Russians what it looks like when a petty tyrant goes on a losing streak.”

“And we must get Russians talking to Russians about all of this. Let’s nurture our ties not only to Russian liberals but also —more importantly —to Russian nationalists, who may well in due course turn against Putin and consider a more pragmatic approach in their relations with the West. “

“Let’s look for cleavages. Let’s drive wedges in Mr. Putin’s ruling class. It’s what a broad coalition of anti-Communist Russian broadcasters working for Radio Liberty did brilliantly during the Cold War.”

“In the information space, we need to work with our European allies. Our joint efforts require the use of multiple platforms — web, radio, television, social media — and creative and compelling programming.”

“And when we’re fully prohibited from working inside the country, as is sure to happen in due time, let’s get back to beaming into Russia from the outside.”

And not a single word about dialogue or cooperation, despite Russia's repeated attempts to reach out to Washington. Is this really in America's national interest?

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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby Grizzly » Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:52 pm

“We should also target more members of the Kremlin’s inner circle, including preventing their spouses and children from vacationing or studying abroad. A step in this direction is much more likely to put pressure on Putin directly.”


We have no Statesmen, no diplomacy. no diplomats. no lateral thinking, no visionaries, only political appointees with no choice but to let these fucks run amok, it's an Anathema.

No society can aspire to democracy unless it maintains an unbreakable connection between its politics and its police powers.

Once the populace has no political access to policy and enforcement, once those with coercive power over others are not directly accountable to the people’s representatives, you can kiss your ass goodbye.


The Privatization of Everything
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/7 ... everything

Even foreign relations? What's the opposite of Clientitis for Foreign Service Officer's (FSO) ?

This country is soooo, Fucked.
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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby American Dream » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:01 am

http://ww4report.com/node/14345#comment-453139

Russia bombs hospitals too

Submitted by Bill Weinberg on Fri, 10/23/2015

At least seven hospitals or medical facilities in Syria have been hit by airstrikes since Russia entered the civil war there, killing at least four people, according to an international human rights group and Syrian relief workers. The latest strikes occurred Tuesday, when warplanes struck the town of Sarmin, in Idlib Province, killing a physiotherapist and a guard at the local field hospital administered by the Syrian American Medical Society, the society said in a statement. (NYT, Oct. 22)
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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:29 pm

Alice wrote,
Democracy in Action: US Media Issues Instructions How to Bring Russia Down...


Here's the NY Times latest slant:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/27/world/middleeast/syria-russian-air-strike-refugees.html
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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby Searcher08 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:00 pm

American Dream » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:01 pm wrote:http://ww4report.com/node/14345#comment-453139

Russia bombs hospitals too

Submitted by Bill Weinberg on Fri, 10/23/2015

At least seven hospitals or medical facilities in Syria have been hit by airstrikes since Russia entered the civil war there, killing at least four people, according to an international human rights group and Syrian relief workers. The latest strikes occurred Tuesday, when warplanes struck the town of Sarmin, in Idlib Province, killing a physiotherapist and a guard at the local field hospital administered by the Syrian American Medical Society, the society said in a statement. (NYT, Oct. 22)


Bill Weinberg is such a self-righteous, Israel-firster dick.
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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby slimmouse » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:21 pm

^^^^^^^^^^

I truly wonder how these people sleep at night.

No small amounts of mind altering meds is my best guess.
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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:33 pm

I truly wonder how these people sleep at night.


No, no, you've got it all wrong - they sleep during the daylight.

The Walking Killers.

Nordic can explain how they use lighting to make the night look like the day for these crises actors.
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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby Searcher08 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:24 pm

slimmouse » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:21 pm wrote:^^^^^^^^^^

I truly wonder how these people sleep at night.

No small amounts of mind altering meds is my best guess.


Mrs Cass Sunstein gives me the absolute creeps.
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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:50 pm

Searcher08 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:24 pm wrote:
Mrs Cass Sunstein gives me the absolute creeps.


Well, the strange case of Anna Stubblefield gives me the creeps more.




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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby Nordic » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:45 am

"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action." -- Ian Fleming.
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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby American Dream » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:54 pm

http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2015/10/s ... -cult.html


Wednesday, October 28, 2015

Sexism of the Putin cult

Not only is the cult of Putin in pro-Syrian regime media distasteful, but the entire Russian-produced cult of Putin is entirely based on traditional macho sexist themes and motifs.
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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby justdrew » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:51 pm

American Dream » 28 Oct 2015 09:54 wrote:http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2015/10/sexism-of-putin-cult.html


Wednesday, October 28, 2015

Sexism of the Putin cult

Not only is the cult of Putin in pro-Syrian regime media distasteful, but the entire Russian-produced cult of Putin is entirely based on traditional macho sexist themes and motifs.
Posted by As'ad AbuKhalil


Unlike the cult of trump? Or the cult of bush?
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Re: Russian military buildup in Syria...

Postby zangtang » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:57 pm

its just so unfair................................
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