Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris hostage

[seemslikeadream]

[Luther Blissett]

Upon reading the headline, I thought that this was going to be an advancement in those old artificial neural network web bot predictors that spike from chatter collected around the world, but it doesn't seem to be that.



http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandcult ... is-attacks

[MacCruiskeen]

backtoiam, the bombs (or whatever they were) didn't explode IN the stadium but (somewhere) outside it. That video is worthless. I switched it off after 45 secs. If the guy can't get even the most basic verifiable facts right then he's just wasting everyone's time.

What makes this bone-lazy YouTube "instant-analysis" crap so pernicious is that there are real and very serious questions to be asked about all of the Paris attacks, and particularly about the Stade de France incident(s). For example:

Question to all: Is there any actual evidence anywhere that anyone detonated any suicide bomb-vest anywhere in Paris on Friday? Any actual eyewitness account of a bomb going off? Any film* of any of the alleged bomb-scenes that shows any actual bomb-damage, such as broken windows, twisted chairs, body parts, that kind of thing? You know, the kind of thing bombs do. Thanks. (I may well have missed something obvious.**)

There is something like an actual news black-out going on right now, barely camouflaged by the incessant media waffle. Three full days on, it is remarkably hard to discover even the most elementary facts. E.g.:

- Exactly how many suicide bombers were outside the Stade de France? Two? Three? Nineteen, maybe?

- Where were those ruthless suicide bombers when they exploded, exactly?

- Why didn't they turn up before the game started?

- Having "arrived late" (and been "turned away because without tickets" [sic. seriously]), why didn't they shoot their way in?

- Why did they instead just wander off and blow themselves up, and nobody else with them? (Were those ruthless suicide bombers in the huff? Paris can be a very unfriendly place, admittedly.)

- Where are all the eyewitnesses? That will of course include not just random passers-by, but, say, dozens of ticker-sellers, parking-lot-attendants, dog-handlers, security people and police -- especially as President Hollande and numerous other bigwigs were ATTENDING THE FUCKING GAME (and left early, uniquely, right after the explosions in the 17th and 20th minutes).


* Cellphone footage (and sound) from a beautiful Friday evening in the world's most romantic city (suddenly & violently interrupted) shouldn't be as rare as gold-dust on the web or in the mass media, especially when there's money to be made from such things.

** Yes, I've seen the guy with the magic cellphone that saved his life, as publicised on the BBC website. Vraiment incroyable! I don't mean that obvious comedy stuff. Anyway, he is the SOLE alleged witness to the Stade de France "bombings" I've seen so far - there were at least two such "bombings", remember, three in some reports -- and his statement as broadcast was neither lengthy nor compelling. Anyone else?

[seemslikeadream]

I just saw this video, and listened in shock as the ring of truth (for once!) could be heard on teevee... for 10 whole minutes.

The number of civilians killed in Iraq jumped from 4,623 in 2012 to 9,473 in 2013 and to 17,045 in 2014, according to Iraqi Body Count, an independent website; a high proportion of these killed were Shia victims of Isis bombers and executioners.

[tapitsbo]

One thing I find interesting is the idea that Big Brother ("the top") is no longer "in control' of Terrorism anymore.

Why should this be scary? In some ways it's a liberating thought

[slimmouse]

Well, probably because behind all of this the top are still selling the weapons, raping the earth, keeping us in debt slavery
claiming the land for themselves, whilst simultaneously convincing you and me that we are enemies, due to politics, religion, ethnicity, gay rights,abortion.........fill in the gap.

[seemslikeadream]

One thing I find interesting is the idea that Big Brother ("the top") is no longer "in control' of Terrorism anymore.

Why should this be scary? In some ways it's a liberating thought

They are
Masters of Chaos

it is what they wanted

[tapitsbo]

Right, so why should we be uncomfortable about the notion that they've lost control? (I am undecided on whether this judgement is correct though I suspect you are right SLAD - all the same, I am simply talking about the conversations I am seeing)

It's shouldn't be comfy to have the Masters of Chaos staging terrorism against your own country. It shouldn't be any comfier than a hypothetical rogue force doing the same.

And while we're talking about "asymmetric relationships" it's worth noting that there are a number of Middle Eastern countries whose sovereignty is less compromised than that of France.

[MacCruiskeen]

Published in 2007. Everyone should read it, especially the chapter on Russia.

http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine

[backtoiam]

The face of this video looks like the one conniption posted earlier but it is a different vid and has not been posted in this thread yet. In this video the hero of the Charlie Hebdo incident reappears on the scene of the Paris incident. These events have gotten so sloppy and hastily strung together that it reminds me of the Bin Laden vids and the Isis vids.

No worry though for the PTB, the TPP trade agreement due to copyright law will soon make it illegal to share links and much of this information sharing will be cut off at the knees. Information sharing, incrementally, will become very difficult in the future.

[stefano]

- Exactly how many suicide bombers were outside the Stade de France? Two? Three? Nineteen, maybe?

- Where were those ruthless suicide bombers when they exploded, exactly?

[MacCruiskeen]

Thanks, stefano. That's from Le Monde. So, pretty damn "official", as a source, and pretty exact. We see how very close to the stadium those three ruthless Islamist "suicide bombers" were when they ended their own lives so explosively, while taking remarkable care to hurt no one else.

If "suicide bombing" is indeed what took place there. Certainly something made two or three very loud noises while the game was going on.

Any eyewitnesses, films, photos? Anywhere?

Remember, this was just after 9pm on a Friday night. So where are all the people from the houses and streets and bistros and bars in the immediate vicinity -- and all the passing motorists -- for whom the noise of those explosions must have been even more DEAFENINGLY LOUD than for the tens of thousands of fans in the stadium* (and for the millions watching the game on TV, who heard it too)? Everyone must have heard those explosions, and many must have seen them too. Where are those people?


* Somewhere I read a quote from one of the fans, to the effect that, "It wasn't just the loud noise, you could actually feel the ground shake."

[stefano]

Thanks, stefano. That's from Le Monde. So, pretty damn "official", as a source, and pretty exact. We see how very close to the stadium those three ruthless Islamist "suicide bombers" were when they ended their own lives so explosively, while taking remarkable care to hurt no one else.

If "suicide bombing" is indeed what took place there. Certainly something made two or three very loud noises while the game was going on.

Any eyewitnesses, films, photos? Anywhere?

There are a few witness reports (France 3, Metronews, Le Monde), but they can be dismissed by a reader inclined to dismiss them. The metronews one is dodgy, I'll agree: the young woman happened to ride past the Bataclan on the way to the Stade de France, for extra spice... But you could think of other explanations for this (although I'm not sure what your implication is - that it was crackers and that they later told us it was bombs?). The cops told everyone to go home straight away after the explosions, so the witnesses who spoke to the media are the ones who really wanted to be in the media. Also the Bataclan massacre was by far the focal point of the thing, so media outlets have concentrated on that.

As for:

those three ruthless Islamist "suicide bombers" were when they ended their own lives so explosively, while taking remarkable care to hurt no one else

Perhaps, when it came down to it, they couldn't kill people? Apart from the first guy, who took one passer-by with him. This needn't have any effect on whether or not you think it was piloted in detail. Again, the Bataclan was the focus, so it would make sense for a commander to send the real, trained killers there and send the casuals to Saint Denis.

[cptmarginal]

Right, so why should we be uncomfortable about the notion that they've lost control? (I am undecided on whether this judgement is correct though I suspect you are right SLAD - all the same, I am simply talking about the conversations I am seeing)

It's shouldn't be comfy to have the Masters of Chaos staging terrorism against your own country. It shouldn't be any comfier than a hypothetical rogue force doing the same.

And while we're talking about "asymmetric relationships" it's worth noting that there are a number of Middle Eastern countries whose sovereignty is less compromised than that of France.

Vladimir Putin’s Speech at the Valdai Club

The next obvious threat is the further escalation of ethnic, religious, and social conflicts. Such conflicts are dangerous not only as such, but also because they create zones of anarchy, lawlessness, and chaos around them, places that are comfortable for terrorists and criminals, where piracy, human trafficking, and drug trafficking flourish.

Incidentally, at the time, our colleagues tried to somehow manage these processes, use regional conflicts and design ‘colour revolutions’ to suit their interests, but the genie escaped the bottle. It looks like the controlled chaos theory fathers themselves do not know what to do with it; there is disarray in their ranks.

We closely follow the discussions by both the ruling elite and the expert community. It is enough to look at the headlines of the Western press over the last year. The same people are called fighters for democracy, and then Islamists; first they write about revolutions and then call them riots and upheavals. The result is obvious: the further expansion of global chaos.

Remarkable quote, one way or another.

[stillrobertpaulsen]

I just saw this video, and listened in shock as the ring of truth (for once!) could be heard on teevee... for 10 whole minutes.

The bottom line is that this is going according to plan, that is the plan of the psychopaths in power, and not some rogue evil-doers who always turn out to be from the very place the psychopaths are targeting for regime change, takeover, destruction, etc...

Terrorism is a psychological attack on the public and who benefits from psychological attacks on the public more than those in power. No matter what mainstream media would have you believe, state or privately funded false flag terror is much more common than rogue, asymmetrical terror. In fact, rogue evil-doers are very rare. Since the war on terror began, almost all of the terrorist events we've seen point to deep state organizations and government support of violent non-state actors.

First and foremost, the proliferating terrorist organizations--often interchangeable are created, armed, financed and supplied with trained jihadi nutjobs by the USA, the military arm of the globalists. This is even admitted by the mainstream media on occasion.

Second, an increasingly integrated, government-corporate surveillance hydra that it seems the more we feed it, the larger the very thing this hydra claims it's trying to prevent grows.

Third, these horrific events that no one sees coming, are always pretty much solved within hours--perpetrators almost always identified and killed--and mainstream media, in full force, is all ready to go with 24/7 coverage the minute it occurs. Wasn't Anderson Cooper right there after attacks as well as Charlie Hebdo attacks?

Fourth, we almost always have exercises/drills at the same time as the terror attack happens, in this case, a “multi-site” emergency exercise was held in Paris on the same day as the Paris attacks on November 13.

Fifth, more funding for militarization, surveillance and police state as media bombards us with prior terror events

Sixth, brown lives always pay the price without any credible investigation of the crime the bombing is based upon.

Lastly, governments that are awash with crimes against humanity not only escape without a scratch, their power and wealth increases exponentially

I think these are the best two summations so far regarding the Friday the 13th Paris Terror. To divideandconquer's list I would like to add:

Eighth, these horrific events that supposedly no one could foresee almost always end up having been warned about - in this case, France received warnings from Iraqi Intelligence and Israel prior to the attacks.

Ninth, passports conveniently found at the scene of the crime. In this case, the Syrian passports were fakes likely made in Turkey - the fingerprints of Gladio Plan B seem fairly evident to me.