Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris hostage

[MacCruiskeen]

^^complaint's in to the mod

[solace]

^^complaint's in to the mod

Of course it is. FFS it was a JOKE...in GREEN.... like we do thing around here. Get a fucking grip.

[MacCruiskeen]

Ian, the fairly beefy guy dressed all in dark clothes - including fairly tight dark jeans - is the one circled and thus identified as "Sébastien" by the NYT. He is clearly not the same person as the thin-armed, long-haired, lightly-dressed woman (surely?) in a pale-checked something-or-other who reaches down to the "pregnant woman" after the cut.

[IanEye]

@ 00:45 in the NYT video it circles them both (the two hanging above the woman the media says is pregnant)

regardless, the person that helps the pregnant woman up really does appear to be wearing a skirt.
what appeared to me to be the sleeves of a shirt tied around i now am starting to think is a pleat on a skirt.
it is only when the person is first getting back into the window at an angle that you can really see the front of their body for a second.
the quality of the video is not great and by then the digital zoom is zoomed in enough to add to the pixelation.

i guess i am somewhat reluctant to assign a gender because i am aware of the other "gender" thread currently underway here on RI.

the story certainly has a "let's roll" feel to it, i agree with that.

[MacCruiskeen]

Yes - It totally looks like a different person, and a woman, who helps "the pregnant woman." Very strange editing. And I found the talk of a bag of money odd too.

I thought it was amazing that this odd voice over made it into NYT

I thought it was anything but amazing. I thought it was inevitable, and I was right. Spook propaganda has to reach its intended audience, after all. which certainly doesn't exclude the readers of the "quality press" , especially The Newspaper of Record.

The Tale of Sébastien and the Pregnant Woman is now everywhere, precisely as intended. I bet you a million dollars it will very soon appear on Wikipedia.

[AlicetheKurious]

[MacCruiskeen]

the quality of the video is not great and by then the digital zoom is zoomed in enough to add to the pixelation.

Yeah, everything of any real importance (e.g. for identification purposes) either happens off-screen or is blurred -- not just in this one but in all of the videos I've seen so far.

The audiotrack of the "pregnant woman" shouting ("Au secours! Je suis enceinte!" - Help, I'm pregnant, etc.) also sounds to me as if it has been at least enhanced if not edited-in. It would be good if Nordic could help us here.

[Wombaticus Rex]

^^complaint's in to the mod

Why would you take it as a threat when it's in green and seems like a harmless enough joke to make, given what we discuss here?

Is there some prior history between y'all I'm not aware of?

The error message you received is very weird, definitely never seen that before. I don't know that anyone can "enter your account," although as moderator I can edit people's posts on the forum.

[MacCruiskeen]

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[MacCruiskeen]

^^You are joking, WR? It was a witless "JOKE" (sic) about me being killed, posted by someone who has never added anything to any discussion anywhere on this board, ever, and who has never done anything but abuse me (and many others here, especially Alice) obscenely, repeatedly and with impunity.

I wanted to stop this thread being derailed. That's why I didn't address solace at all, ever, least of all as a "snarling asshole" -- as you called me before banning me for a week. back in June -- but appealed to you, politely. as moderator instead. Now I am having to state the obvious to you in public all over again, right here, thereby derailing the very thread I appealed to you as moderator to stop being derailed.

You will have noticed, or not noticed, that I also just conversed perfectly cordially with IanEye.

But you know what, WR? I now officially give up. Have the board you way you want it, like this:

Of course it is. FFS it was a JOKE...in GREEN.... like we do thing around here. Get a fucking grip.

Enjoy.

[seemslikeadream]

^^complaint's in to the mod

Why would you take it as a threat when it's in green and seems like a harmless enough joke to make, given what we discuss here?

Is there some prior history between y'all I'm not aware of?

The error message you received is very weird, definitely never seen that before. I don't know that anyone can "enter your account," although as moderator I can edit people's posts on the forum.

maybe because solace has NEVER made one joke around here....he has always been quite serious..to put it mildly

[solace]

http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/11 ... shootings/

In this video it is clear that there were 2 men on the ledge (you can see the extra legs starting at about 1:27) and one who some see as a woman but is a guy with his coat wrapped around his waist can be seen climbing back in the window and pulling her up. You can CLEARLY see him climbing back in to then reach over and grab her at about 1:54.

[Wombaticus Rex]

But you know what, WR? I now officially give up.

Ah, excellent. No risk of thread derailment, then. The preponderance of material here is getting very interesting.

(Although, for the record, the Saga of Sebastien might be worthy of a thread unto itself. This shit is absurd in a very familiar, Osama's Secret Underground Headquarters kind of way.)

maybe because solace has NEVER made one joke around here....he has always been quite serious..to put it mildly

Ain't gender perception a funny thing? All this time I've figured Solace was a lady.

Regardless of what identity is being performed, I don't think Solace has been much for really contributing here, true. Shit, it's not going to be more than a week before I have to suspend 'em again, anyway. I just don't want to do it over a joke.

We're talking about a mass casualty event, tracing the motivations of actors who extinguished human lives, seeking connections to military, religious and private sector actors who have been responsible for exponentially more death, and more than that, we're an asylum for functional paranoids.

And my personal reading of Solace's joke was a jab at Mac for being paranoid, not a threat, sarcastic, deliberate or otherwise.

[seemslikeadream]

lady...

female ...but no lady

[solace]

" I don't think Solace has been much for really contributing here, true. Shit, it's not going to be more than a week before I have to suspend 'em again, anyway. I just don't want to do it over a joke. "

Gee, what a vote of confidence.

And here I just CONTRIBUTED a better video which blows Mac's et al's paranoid delusions all to Hell and back. And what do I get? Can I change my screen name to Rodney Dangerfield?