Masculinities of the far right

[backtoiam]

You post the forum rules. We just want to know what we are allowed to say. Is that asking too much?

[American Dream]

I would love to get Jeff's input on that!

[Searcher08]

Your straw man, dude.

How IS Solace these days? That SO reminds me of something she would say, you know kind of a 13yr old bratty response, rather than an answer to Slomo's post.

Sounds to me like someone is afraid to engage!

[slomo]

Your straw man, dude.

How IS Solace these days? That SO reminds me of something she would say, you know kind of a 13yr old bratty response, rather than an answer to Slomo's post.

Sounds to me like someone is afraid to engage!

Nah, that's pretty much the response I expected. (Or else crickets.)

Authoritarian leftists will never admit to holding positions that clearly point to their own hypocrisy.

[Searcher08]

Your straw man, dude.

How IS Solace these days? That SO reminds me of something she would say, you know kind of a 13yr old bratty response, rather than an answer to Slomo's post.

Sounds to me like someone is afraid to engage!

Nah, that's pretty much the response I expected. (Or else crickets.)

Authoritarian leftists will never admit to holding positions that clearly point to their own hypocrisy.

Your Fallacy of False Attribution of Hypocrisy, maan. You should lern Criticul Thinking

[American Dream]

One of the most ironic contradictions of the far right is- despite their vigorous strawmannirg of "PC"- the constant retreat into victimhood scripts along the lines of: white people as the primary victims, men as the primary victims, far right bigots as the primary victims, etc.

It is certainly true that the social order hurts all of us but White Supremacy, Male Supremacy, Heteronormativity and all that really do exist, despite the topsy turvy scripts emanating from the Far Right...

[backtoiam]

One of the most ironic contradictions of the far right is- despite their vigorous strawmannirg of "PC"- the constant retreat into victimhood scripts along the lines of: white people as the primary victims, men as the primary victims, far right bigots as the primary victims, etc.

It is certainly true that the social order hurts all of us but White Supremacy, Male Supremacy, Heteronormativity and all that really do exist, despite the topsy turvy scripts emanating from the Far Right...

I applaud that attempt. With that one response, if people were to believe it, you could start a bar fight with that one. You forgot women. You should have added them too, and oh boy, that would be a real brawl...

[slomo]

Honestly, the rhetoric you espouse is only hurting the left and strengthening the right.

(Sez this cisgendered homosexual biracial man to somebody I presume is a cisgendered heterosexual white man. If you want to start playing with special-snowflake cards.)

[slomo]

One of the most ironic contradictions of the far right is- despite their vigorous strawmannirg of "PC"- the constant retreat into victimhood scripts along the lines of: white people as the primary victims, men as the primary victims, far right bigots as the primary victims, etc.

It is certainly true that the social order hurts all of us but White Supremacy, Male Supremacy, Heteronormativity and all that really do exist, despite the topsy turvy scripts emanating from the Far Right...

I applaud that attempt. With that one response, if people were to believe it, you could start a bar fight with that one. You forgot women. You should have added them too, and oh boy, that would be a real brawl...

I'd love to continue this fight. But I have to, you know, work.

[Luther Blissett]

But we can't outlaw toxic rhetoric.

I'm not one to suggest resting on laurels, but can any of you remember what conspiracy culture or forteana was like in the pre-internet days? We all bemoan the perpetuation of falsehoods, especially conservative conspiracy theories like the sale of infant body parts, but I really think that things like this used to be a lot worse.

The negative consequence is that lies, misinformation and disinformation are amplified now; oftentimes it is the worst, the biggest lies — that anthropogenic global warming is a hoax, that 19 death-loving superstudents carried out 9/11 planned in a cave, that the CIA's only goal is to protect us from terrorism — but truth at least now has a greater potential to win than it ever had in history. Right?

I think the best way to win over toxic rhetoric is to keep digging for truth.

[American Dream]

Abortion Under Siege

The Right’s virulent anti-abortion rhetoric created the environment that led to the Planned Parenthood attack.
by Rachel Cohen


Civilians being escorted from the scene of the Planned Parenthood shooting in Colorado Springs on November 27.


Rising Violence

The Colorado Springs killings are another example of a frightening rise in right-wing terrorist attacks.

It comes on the heels of shootings attributed to white supremacist vigilantes against Black Lives Matter activists in Minneapolis. In that case, police have arrested three suspects who littered the Internet with hateful messages and open discussions of their planned attack — though authorities say they are still investigating whether to indict the men on hate crime charges or whether their assault on protesters might be considered “self-defense.”

Other forms of hate violence have claimed lives and inflicted harm across the country. For example, activists and supporters have brought to light the murder of twenty-two trans women in 2015, a majority of whom were women of color.

Nor is the Planned Parenthood shooting the only attack of its kind in the city of Colorado Springs this year. In January, the city’s NAACP office was damaged when Thaddeus Murphy set off an explosive device. Murphy’s motives have also been portrayed as “murky,” though his actions follow a long history of arson attacks against black civil-rights organizations.

The last murder attributed to anti-choice violence took the life of late-term abortion provider Dr George Tiller in Wichita, KS, in 2009.

Tiller’s practice in Kansas City had been a focal point of violence — including a 1986 bombing and 1993 shooting — and right-wing protest for years. The anti-choice movement has targeted later-term abortion providers for special demonization, and Tiller was one of only five providers of abortions after the stage of pregnancy in which a fetus is considered viable, or able to survive outside the womb.

The US Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade decision guaranteed legality for abortions taking place before fetal viability, and indeed, the vast majority of abortions take place within the first eight weeks of pregnancy, before an embryo becomes a fetus.

But in rare cases, making up less than 1 percent of all abortions, a pregnancy is terminated after twenty-four weeks of pregnancy. This procedure almost always stems from late-developing and severe health complications, but the Right has cynically portrayed procedures involving the partial delivery of more developed fetuses as representative of all abortion practices.

Tiller’s murder forced the closure of the last remaining abortion facility in Kansas City and left just four providers of later-term abortions to attempt to provide care for hundreds of parents annually facing the tragic ending of wanted pregnancies.

Dr Tiller’s murder and the attack in Colorado Springs show that anti-choice claims of concern for fetal life coexist with the violent disregard for the lives of women and health care providers. But in truth, women’s lives are on the line every time our right and access to reproductive justice is placed at risk.

Legislative attacks limiting access to abortion do the greatest harm to those who are most vulnerable to begin with. Several states have banned late-term abortions, forcing women carrying a severely ill fetus to make a choice between risking their safety, traveling great distances, and paying thousands of dollars to terminate their pregnancies, or giving birth to children who will endure tremendous suffering for the duration of their very short lives.

Parental notification laws compel young women who may have violent or nonexistent relationships with their guardians to seek permission just to exercise control over their own bodies and lives. And mandatory waiting periods and counseling add to the expense of a procedure that has become unaffordable for many poor and working women.

The closure of clinics has been one of the Right’s most effective tactics in limiting reproductive rights in practice, with potentially life-threatening results. Six states now have only one abortion provider, and 87 percent of counties nationwide have no abortion providers.

In its next term, the US Supreme Court is due to rule on the constitutionality of a 2013 law passed in Texas amid mass protests. At the time that HB 2 was approved, Texas counted forty-one abortion providers across its large expanse. Today, just seventeen clinics remain, and more could be closed if the law is upheld.

A new study dramatizes the effects of the closures. Researchers asked Texas women if they or their best friend had attempted to induce an abortion on their own — and turned up between 100,000 and 240,000 estimated attempts. Even if these estimates double or triple the real number, they represent a massive number of people facing desperate and potentially dangerous circumstances.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/12/plan ... bert-dear/

[Searcher08]

But we can't outlaw toxic rhetoric.

I'm not one to suggest resting on laurels, but can any of you remember what conspiracy culture or forteana was like in the pre-internet days? We all bemoan the perpetuation of falsehoods, especially conservative conspiracy theories like the sale of infant body parts, but I really think that things like this used to be a lot worse.

The negative consequence is that lies, misinformation and disinformation are amplified now; oftentimes it is the worst, the biggest lies — that anthropogenic global warming is a hoax, that 19 death-loving superstudents carried out 9/11 planned in a cave, that the CIA's only goal is to protect us from terrorism — but truth at least now has a greater potential to win than it ever had in history. Right?

I think the best way to win over toxic rhetoric is to keep digging for truth.

I totally agree - and to build on your digging metaphor, to learn to use whatever truth excavation tools that one senses intuitively may be useful - there are some useful similarities between truth excavation and the practical personal processes of 'coming clean' as described by Catherine Austin Fitts - a great series...
http://solari.com/archive/coming_clean/

For myself, I noticed that even compared with five years ago, the degree of political engagement (and discernment) of the people in my social network has dramatically increased; sometimes I have been amazed at the (positive) changes in people who were very disengaged.

[American Dream]

TW: Depicts animal sacrifice




They have nothing to do with the Far Right- nothing!




http://foolsofvinland.blogspot.com/2015 ... -fail.html

Wolfie Bestiality/Snuff Porn FAIL





Pathetic.

[General Patton]

They have nothing to do with the Far Right- nothing!

They're definitely far right. To my knowledge no one here as disputed that.

Emphasis on hierarchy*, rejection of egalitarianism (an essential theme of leftism), emphasis on tradition and ancestry (even if manufactured/retconned). All familiar aspects of the right. The neopagans on the right reject Christanity because it's too left wing. Christians are willing to accept converts from all races, have active missionaries and charities which focus on foreign countries instead of focusing on domestic issues, and are not as accepting of patriarchal gender roles as rightwing neopagans would like. This isn't true for the entirety of neopagans, there is a cross section with Wiccans and various goddess cults that are definitively feminist in nature. But for ones like Wolves it's hard to classify them as anything other than right wing.



*There are exceptions obviously. Lisa Fithian splits people into leaders and followers, even though she is most definitely a leftwing activist with an anarchist streak.

[American Dream]

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