slomo » Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:15 pm wrote:Since you asked, I
am broadly anti-modern-feminism.
As if it needs to be stated (but apparently it does), I am in full 100% support of men and women being treated equally under law. However, that means equal rights
and equal responsibilities.
For example, it is not
"misconceived equality" to argue that military conscription should apply to both sexes. Before I agree with punitive policies to close apparent wage gaps, I'd like to see rigorous statistical analysis supporting those policies, e.g. wage comparisons that correct for differences in education, experience, hours worked, and responsibilities held, and I'd like to see as much discussion about automation (and the fact that it disproportionately destroys jobs typically held by men over those typically held by women) as the wage gap (a phenomenon largely based on intentionally flawed statistical analysis, although I'll grant that it does exist in many fields but to a much smaller extent than typically claimed). I'd like to see domestic violence against men (in heterosexual relationships) taken as seriously as domestic violence against women is currently taken (and yes, the legal and law enforcement system takes domestic violence against women very seriously, despite all claims to the contrary). Finally, I am completely unmoved by the never-ending complaints of upper-middle-class white women, under the guise of third-wave feminism, regarding their eat/pray/love problems and how it's misogynist to suggest that most of these problems are the result of narcissistic obsession over the minutiae of their inner worlds.
Satisfied? Now you can go ahead and insinuate that I am one of those right-wing monsters, and thereby dismiss anything I have to say. Of course, you've already been trying as hard as you can to do exactly that:
the horrors, I've actually spent time reading r/mensrights, r/theRedPill, r/KotakuInAction, and other such sites. That must mean I'm one of your fascist bogeymen. Well, I've just made your job easier.
The thing is, your tendencies, at least those you display on this board, are far more fascist than mine. For one thing, you display no capacity for compassion, you can't bring yourself to listen to people you consider your enemy, not even once. I do that regularly, to make sure I'm not going down some dark reality tunnel. I even read, and genuinely consider, some of the stuff
you post. It may surprise you that the vast majority of right-wingers are not monsters, they're people who have real problems and concerns. Even r/theRedPill, whose positions are typically very ugly, is largely made up of men who are very wounded, their suffering is real even if their attempts to alleviate it are misguided and self-defeating (and yes, potentially harmful). I'll even grant that the white nationalists, whose positions I deeply disagree with, who even frighten me (a mixed-race homosexual), espouse beliefs that have a kernel of truth buried underneath all that craziness: namely, that nobody in the mainstream political arena is currently voicing the interests and concerns of working class white men. (And, yes, working class white men still enjoy privilege over working class persons of color, but that isn't saying much, and the current "PC" climate does nothing more than polarize the discourse, driving a wedge between the groups that make up the lowest rungs of the class ladder.)
So you tell me, which is going to be a more effective way of healing the divides that separate us all? Your passive-aggressive authoritarian tactics (
oh please moderators save me from the bad fascist!)? Or my exhortations to hear the positions of all stakeholders?
Honestly, I don't care if you succeed in persuading WR or whoever to ban me, I'll just go somewhere else. The main person you're harming is yourself. By refusing to have compassion for your stated enemies, you will always be cut off from a part of yourself, and you will always be blind to the plank in your own eye.