Who is Ken O'Keefe?

[backtoiam]

Ideology behind Jewish terrorism is ‘official business’ of Israeli government — Avishai and Blumenthal

And this ideology put into practice in real time results on the ground.

[Nordic]

If he makes "solace" into a frothing-at-the-mouth, hysterical ninny he must be doing something right.

Solace, you're just plain fucking wrong about everything.

Ken O'Keefe seems to be right about just about everything and puts his ass on the line for righteousness.

But keep trolling this board. It's what you do. it's all you do.

[solace]

If he makes "solace" into a frothing-at-the-mouth, hysterical ninny he must be doing something right.

Solace, you're just plain fucking wrong about everything.

Ken O'Keefe seems to be right about just about everything and puts his ass on the line for righteousness.

But keep trolling this board. It's what you do. it's all you do.

No surprise you and the other usual suspects love and stick up for the antisemitic asshole. No surprise at all. It's deja vu all over again and again and again....

[Nordic]

If he makes "solace" into a frothing-at-the-mouth, hysterical ninny he must be doing something right.

Solace, you're just plain fucking wrong about everything.

Ken O'Keefe seems to be right about just about everything and puts his ass on the line for righteousness.

But keep trolling this board. It's what you do. it's all you do.

No surprise you and the other usual suspects love and stick up for the antisemitic asshole. No surprise at all. It's deja vu all over again and again and again....

Well you're the expert on deja vu seeing as how you pop up for only one brand of subject and with complete and utter repetitive predictability. You're a boor and a bore. Can't a Chosen One do better?

[solace]

If he makes "solace" into a frothing-at-the-mouth, hysterical ninny he must be doing something right.

Solace, you're just plain fucking wrong about everything.

Ken O'Keefe seems to be right about just about everything and puts his ass on the line for righteousness.

But keep trolling this board. It's what you do. it's all you do.

No surprise you and the other usual suspects love and stick up for the antisemitic asshole. No surprise at all. It's deja vu all over again and again and again....

Well you're the expert on deja vu seeing as how you pop up for only one brand of subject and with complete and utter repetitive predictability. You're a boor and a bore. Can't a Chosen One do better?

Chosen One? Whatever do you mean?

[Nordic]

So Solace I guess you find Naomi Wolf to be antisemetic, and Finkelstein, and probably Glenn Greenwald, and everybody who isn't busy butchering Palestinians, bulldozing their homes, and stealing their land. You're a very special snowflake.

[solace]

So Solace I guess you find Naomi Wolf to be antisemetic, and Finkelstein, and probably Glenn Greenwald, and everybody who isn't busy butchering Palestinians, bulldozing their homes, and stealing their land. You're a very special snowflake.

Not gonna expand on the Chosen One thing? I didn't think you had the cajones to do that and let your mask slip too much.

[Nordic]

So Solace I guess you find Naomi Wolf to be antisemetic, and Finkelstein, and probably Glenn Greenwald, and everybody who isn't busy butchering Palestinians, bulldozing their homes, and stealing their land. You're a very special snowflake.

Not gonna expand on the Chosen One thing? I didn't think you had the cajones to do that and let your mask slip too much.

What mask? I don't have the cojones to call myself a Chosen One. That might make me look like I thought I was part of a Master Race or something like that. I thought that shit died out with Herr Hitler. But no Hitler may have lost WW2 but fascism won. I suppose George Carlin was antisemetic too.

[solace]

So Solace I guess you find Naomi Wolf to be antisemetic, and Finkelstein, and probably Glenn Greenwald, and everybody who isn't busy butchering Palestinians, bulldozing their homes, and stealing their land. You're a very special snowflake.

Not gonna expand on the Chosen One thing? I didn't think you had the cajones to do that and let your mask slip too much.

What mask? I don't have the cojones to call myself a Chosen One. That might make me look like I thought I was part of a Master Race or something like that. I thought that shit died out with Herr Hitler. But no Hitler may have lost WW2 but fascism won. I suppose George Carlin was antisemetic too.

Heh . Keep digging your hole. Your ignorance of Judaism is profound.

[backtoiam]

Heh . Keep digging your hole. Your ignorance of Judaism is profound.

Explain it to us.

[Searcher08]

So Solace I guess you find Naomi Wolf to be antisemetic, and Finkelstein, and probably Glenn Greenwald, and everybody who isn't busy butchering Palestinians, bulldozing their homes, and stealing their land. You're a very special snowflake.

Not gonna expand on the Chosen One thing? I didn't think you had the cajones to do that and let your mask slip too much.

What mask? I don't have the cojones to call myself a Chosen One. That might make me look like I thought I was part of a Master Race or something like that. I thought that shit died out with Herr Hitler. But no Hitler may have lost WW2 but fascism won. I suppose George Carlin was antisemetic too.

Heh . Keep digging your hole. Your ignorance of Judaism is profound.

Why are you here? What is your purpose?

I've never seen you post on *anything* other than supporting Israel and ADL / fascist racist talking points. I've never seen anyone other than AD support either your content or your style of engagement (a kind of online Tourettes from my point of view)

If you are responding to what you see as virulent vile hateful anti-Semitism, why not just contact the ADL and get the site blacklisted? Or get the Canadian version of the ADL to make Jeff Wells an offer he cant refuse?

[AlicetheKurious]

Strikingly, I went through an almost identical process in my late teens. My intellectual and emotional awakening to the reality behind the headlines began with a massacre so incomprehensible that it made me question everything. Such a horror did not fit any category under which it could be filed and integrated into my understanding of the modern world, of humanity, or of myself. Yes, I was young and very naive. Very sheltered and very ignorant. I read novels, especially classic novels and knew nothing about the world other than the occasional newspaper headline or article, or my father's Time magazine, which brought me the world in a neat pre-digested package every week.

But this demanded more from me. I later learned to call that feeling 'cognitive dissonance', but at the time it just felt like something in me had ripped and was throbbing, bleeding. It hurt so much. Sometimes the pain subsided, then the image of that little baby, still in its carefully fastened diaper, face down in its own blood, would come roaring back into focus, and I'd start crying again. I was compelled to dig, to figure it out, because I had lost my understanding, my framework, and I needed a new one that could accommodate this new and terrible knowledge. The more I delved, the more I learned, the more outraged I became at the sickening injustice; the injustice in which first people's property and life are stripped away, and then their truth. The three crimes were part of a whole, singular, ongoing crime against humanity. Against my humanity, and against the humanity in all of us. I couldn't return their property, and I couldn't save their lives, but I could speak the truth. That was one thing I could do. Not to do it is to be complicit, and to align myself with the oppressor. And then I, too, would be dead, though perhaps I'd still be walking around, and my mouth would emit words, but the words would not be my own.

How I Became Pro-Palestine & Why It Matters.
Via Peter Cohen on Oct 3, 2015

I was raised on U.S. network news and major newspapers.

For much of my life, “objectivity” meant reading both The New York Times and the Washington Post. I did not begin to seriously question U.S. Mainstream Media until the Iraq Invasion of 2003, and I had no reason to doubt the Mainstream narrative on the “Mid-East Conflict” until Operation Cast Lead in December, 2008.

By that time, I was augmenting my mainstream news with alternative sources and began to see discrepancies. First was the incredible disparity in numbers: death tolls of 100:1 and devastation on one side against trips to the air raid shelter on the other. Then it became clear that the Israeli Government was lying. The bombing of the UN school was a turning point, with the UN openly contradicting the Israeli narrative. Finally, the U.S. media was not reporting the facts and simply confirming the Israeli narrative.

I began doing some research and, about a year later, discovered Gideon Levy. Seeing an Israeli eloquently defend Palestinians and criticize Israeli policies and actions made it clear to me that there was not an Israeli and a Palestinian side to this “conflict,” but a right side and a wrong side.

Now I was determined to go see for myself. After a work opportunity appeared and a few months later, I was in Palestine. Like so many visitors, I was simultaneously overwhelmed by the friendliness, hospitality, thoughtfulness and gentleness of the Palestinian people and horrified by the excruciating injustice of their situation.

I was also stunned to see just how much I had been lied to all my life. The gates of Auschwitz were etched in my mind, yet I had never seen the gates, walls, guard towers and barbed wire that now surrounded me. “Bypass roads,” “flying checkpoints,” Kafkaesque permits required for seemingly everything wove a reality of which I had been told nothing. The Settlements looked less like “Little House on the Prairie” than like massive state-sponsored condos.

The infuriating stories every Palestinian had to tell were matched by the stories of foreign aid workers as well as my own observations. The taxi drivers at Ben Gurion (basically the only Israelis I spoke with), oblivious to the reality they drove through daily, spouted ignorance and stereotypes, even as the Palestinian drivers at work educated me on the complexities and nuances of Israeli society.

One of my first realizations was that Israel did not want peace; they wanted the land, and they did not want the local inhabitants. The map of the West Bank in my Palestinian boss’s office read like a death certificate for the two-state solution. The “Peace Process” was all process and no peace. This was a Colonial conquest in full swing, very calculatingly waged to balance attainment of the goal (“Greater Israel”) with dampening of foreign criticism. Furthermore, this was not confined to single administration, but intrinsic to Israeli policy, both Right and Left, going back for decades.

Over the next few years, I continued to visit to Palestine, learn more about the situation, and engage with others interested in the issue. I began to come into contact with Zionist ideologues online, their bone-chilling racism, imperviousness to logic, and sheer unpleasantness. The Palestinians I knew endured their situation with such grace, dignity, calm and even humor, and seeing them so savagely maligned was adding insult to injury. I began to see the Israelis and their supporters as in the grip of a collective psychosis, much as Carl Jung had described Germany under the Nazis.

I knew from the moment the Unity Government was announced on June 3rd, 2014 that something would happen, so the kidnapping nine days later and the precipitous descent into genocidal massacre that followed were completely predictable. At the Russell Tribunal a few months later I began to see Palestine as, not a question of human rights, but of incipient genocide.

Finally, as I learned about the Nakba and the history that preceded it, I became aware that not only Israel’s actions, but its very existence, were both legally and morally illegitimate. Israel was in fact a criminal state from the moment of its inception, built on terrorism, Colonialist aggression, theft, ethnic cleansing and genocide, for which the just solution was complete dissolution of the Israeli State and its replacement with a single Palestinian State in all of historic Palestine, right of return for all Palestinians, and restoration, compensation, reparations and justice for all wrongs done them.

I have walked you through my own journey because I believe these “conversion” stories are essential to the work of liberating Palestine. This is not a situation that can be resolved on the ground: the political, economic and military disparities are too great. It is the weight of world opinion that will tip the balance. The “Israel-Palestine Conflict” is a media war, its main battle ground is the U.S., understanding how people who have been fed a lifetime of propaganda come to change their minds is the key to victory.

My own story suggests that becoming pro-Palestine is a process that can take months or years and proceeds in stages. In this case, the basic scheme looked something like this:

1) Two sides are in “conflict,” objectivity lies in the middle, and two states is the obvious solution.

2) This Israeli Government is engaged in criminal actions covered up with lies and abetted by the Western Media.

3) Israel does not want peace and is engaged in a willful, strategic and programmatic Colonial project.

4) That project is not limited to one administration but endemic to Israeli policy in the long term.

5) Israel is itself a Colonial project with no legal and moral legitimacy.

6) The entire Zionist idea (i.e., an ethno-religious Nation-State for the “Jewish People”) is illegitimate. Israel has no right to exist as a “Jewish State.”

While the exact order of these stages may differ in individual cases, the realization that one has been lied to is the cork on the bottle of truth. Once I realized the Israelis had bombed that school and lied about it, the rest was only a matter of time.

It is also important not to forget that many pro-Palestinians today, at least at one time, accepted the two-state solution and may now be anywhere in this process. How does a broad global movement deal with these inevitable differences? One way is by never forgetting that only the Palestinian people can define the goal of their struggle and that outsiders can only support. Our personal positions will continue to evolve as we learn, and the patterns of their evolution are critical to understanding the trajectories of those we need to convince. But they are irrelevant to the Palestinian people’s determination of its own goals and struggle—after all, it’s not our country. Link

[zangtang]

just read that & felt myself veering dangerously to the pro-Palestine rather than pro-Israel.

Must have been duped.Hope its not virulent.

You know - like a.................Virus.

[solace]

Heh . Keep digging your hole. Your ignorance of Judaism is profound.

Explain it to us.

You're an adult with a computer that googles; look it up yourself. Not that I think yopu will or would understand if you did.

[Nordic]

Solace thinks Judaism means you get to buy a condo on stolen land and call yourself a "settler" knowing full well you can kill and terrorize the original inhabitants all you want with complete immunity. It's Sadism City.