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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:17 pm

zangtang » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:15 pm wrote:“They covered their tracks pretty well,” the official said.

no.shit.


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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby Nordic » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:45 pm

Checking yourself into a mental hospital is a pretty brilliant way to buy you some time and protection.

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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:53 pm

Not really, if you think about it. Unless you're well connected at the hospital.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby backtoiam » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:21 pm

Nordic » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:45 pm wrote:Checking yourself into a mental hospital is a pretty brilliant way to buy you some time and protection.

(Making note now).


I thought RI was a mental hospital. Am I on the wrong floor of the nuthouse? :rofl2
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:29 pm

backtoiam » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:21 pm wrote:
Nordic » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:45 pm wrote:Checking yourself into a mental hospital is a pretty brilliant way to buy you some time and protection.

(Making note now).


I thought RI was a mental hospital. Am I on the wrong floor of the nuthouse? :rofl2


well there's a couple folks here that think they are the doctors in that hospital
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:39 pm

Rory » Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:56 pm wrote:The handcuffs are easy. Cops in the US handcuff everyone they shoot. Even that guy they shot in the head in Los Feliz a short while back - they flipped him over and cuffed him. No attempt to attend to him medically. I imagine was the same here. Dragged them out of the car and cuffed them in the street. Even if they we re already dead


One of those strange but true details, I first became aware of this during the infamous 1997 North Hollywood shootout. They did that to both bank robbers, including the one who was already dead.

norton ash wrote:And if they were all radicalized and hell-bent for terror... why an office party instead of the Hollywood Bowl or Disneyland or the Getty Center?


This is one of those things that makes me think Obama let the truth slip out at first when he said he thought there was a "mixed motive"in this incident.

My working hypothesis, at least as far as patsy Syed Rizwad Farook is concerned, is that he made a premature ejaculation of a Gladio B op. If the reports of the massive stockpile of weapons are true, then it would have made sense for the target to be a more high profile location, the way the Paris attacks were carried out - and a more high profile time, like coordinating it with an event when lots of targets people would be in public - say New Year's or the opening weekend of the new Star Wars film.

But Farook deviates from the plan when shit from work hits the proverbial fan. He snaps at the party, comes back home to tell his wife he's changing the plan (maybe the reports of Farook thinking he was taking orders from his wife are true, just not in the exact way the media is spinning) - "Zero hour is now, tell those two white gentlemen helping us that my co-workers are the new primary target, starting with that smart-ass fucking Jew!" (my apologies for the Z-grade Hollywood dialogue). They gather at the pre-arranged rendezvous, commence the sloppy new op, then one of the Gladio men goes back to Farook's place and tells him to wait with his wife for further instructions. Three hours later, they are given specific instructions to drive the rented SUV, not the Lexus, Mustang or any other car Farook was tinkering with that was not seen at the site of the attacks, into the awaiting police ambush.

Yeah, it's a sloppy hypothesis right now - but no sloppier than the actual attacks and live cable TV cover-up!
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby barracuda » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:07 pm

Please notice that Tashfeen Malik, the devout muslim woman who was never seen outside of a burka, decided to put on a miniskirt to get on her rampage.

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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby SonicG » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:38 pm

I was wondering about her body...Hard to really see what's going on there but this is really incredibly bizarre.
Very good point about the shootout as it happened smack dab in the middle of a residential neighborhood, didn't it?
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby backtoiam » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:54 pm

Pattern recognition seems to predict that these sort of situations will increase in the future. One of the main things that sticks out in my mind is the never ending drum beat from the mainstream media that "migrants" will be coming in mass. Of course the same people that have been bombing the "migrants" don't care about their safety. That detail right there is a biggie. They dare you to say "oh no don't let those people in here" so they can call you a racist.

The gates of plausible deniability are being opened wide and what will ultimately result from it I don't know. Allowing the ability to monetize pain through changes in the judicial framework to make it "legal" is the goal but the events in the process remain unknown to all but a few.

The tempo has quickened. The lack of facts and details that can be verified in these stories is increasing by design.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby tapitsbo » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:29 pm

With 9/11 you had the testimony of folks on the periphery of the event in regards to threats and warnings they received if they continued to tell their stories.

Is there anything comparable for these recent events?
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby Nordic » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:30 pm

stillrobertpaulsen » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:39 pm wrote:
Rory » Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:56 pm wrote:The handcuffs are easy. Cops in the US handcuff everyone they shoot. Even that guy they shot in the head in Los Feliz a short while back - they flipped him over and cuffed him. No attempt to attend to him medically. I imagine was the same here. Dragged them out of the car and cuffed them in the street. Even if they we re already dead


One of those strange but true details, I first became aware of this during the infamous 1997 North Hollywood shootout. They did that to both bank robbers, including the one who was already dead.

norton ash wrote:And if they were all radicalized and hell-bent for terror... why an office party instead of the Hollywood Bowl or Disneyland or the Getty Center?


This is one of those things that makes me think Obama let the truth slip out at first when he said he thought there was a "mixed motive"in this incident.

My working hypothesis, at least as far as patsy Syed Rizwad Farook is concerned, is that he made a premature ejaculation of a Gladio B op. If the reports of the massive stockpile of weapons are true, then it would have made sense for the target to be a more high profile location, the way the Paris attacks were carried out - and a more high profile time, like coordinating it with an event when lots of targets people would be in public - say New Year's or the opening weekend of the new Star Wars film.

But Farook deviates from the plan when shit from work hits the proverbial fan. He snaps at the party, comes back home to tell his wife he's changing the plan (maybe the reports of Farook thinking he was taking orders from his wife are true, just not in the exact way the media is spinning) - "Zero hour is now, tell those two white gentlemen helping us that my co-workers are the new primary target, starting with that smart-ass fucking Jew!" (my apologies for the Z-grade Hollywood dialogue). They gather at the pre-arranged rendezvous, commence the sloppy new op, then one of the Gladio men goes back to Farook's place and tells him to wait with his wife for further instructions. Three hours later, they are given specific instructions to drive the rented SUV, not the Lexus, Mustang or any other car Farook was tinkering with that was not seen at the site of the attacks, into the awaiting police ambush.

Yeah, it's a sloppy hypothesis right now - but no sloppier than the actual attacks and live cable TV cover-up!


I don't think either of these poor bastards had anything to do with it whatsoever. They had the shitty luck of fitting a certain profile that the real pros were looking for. They were literally sacrificed for the operation.

Hell they probably came up in some sort of search engine designed for this very sort of purpose.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby justdrew » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:35 pm

I'm not seeing what time they fled their house in the rented SUV

Seems like they must have had ~3 hours at home after the mass shooting before they fled in the SUV, also not seeing how long they drove around before the shootout at about 3pm.

Why would they have left the house? and isn't it odd that the police didn't block the SUV, why let them drive off?

the guy was identified early on by the sound of his voice and his build by a survivor, so he must have been suspect #1 pretty much all along.

So I wonder what they were up to at home for 3+ hours with, presumably, cops visible outside much of the time.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby stickdog99 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:55 pm

justdrew » 08 Dec 2015 03:35 wrote:the guy was identified early on by the sound of his voice


Where did you see that? The NY Times puff piece on the survivors said that the assailants never spoke.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby justdrew » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:06 am

stickdog99 » 07 Dec 2015 19:55 wrote:
justdrew » 08 Dec 2015 03:35 wrote:the guy was identified early on by the sound of his voice


Where did you see that? The NY Times puff piece on the survivors said that the assailants never spoke.


"Witnesses said they recognized Farook as one of the shooters by his voice and build..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_San_Bernardino_shooting
#21. ^ Dean Hopkins, Christopher; Wagner, Laura (December 3, 2015). "Police Identify Suspects Killed After Deadly San Bernardino Shooting". [url=/wiki/NPR]NPR[/url]. Retrieved December 3, 2015.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby Nordic » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:13 am

justdrew » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:06 pm wrote:
stickdog99 » 07 Dec 2015 19:55 wrote:
justdrew » 08 Dec 2015 03:35 wrote:the guy was identified early on by the sound of his voice


Where did you see that? The NY Times puff piece on the survivors said that the assailants never spoke.


"Witnesses said they recognized Farook as one of the shooters by his voice and build..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_San_Bernardino_shooting
#21. ^ Dean Hopkins, Christopher; Wagner, Laura (December 3, 2015). "Police Identify Suspects Killed After Deadly San Bernardino Shooting". [url=/wiki/NPR]NPR[/url]. Retrieved December 3, 2015.



But says who? Have we actually seen a credible witness say this? Or was this fed to us by the police?
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