Active Shooter San Bernardino

[stickdog99]

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/po ... -facebook/

Can the FBI please stop scaring people to death? That's Chris Christie's job.

On Wednesday morning, FBI director James Comey told a press conference that, no, Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik did not post on social media about their allegiance to jihad and their intention to commit acts of jihad in the United States. They did communicate in what Comey called "private, direct messages."

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This becomes rather important because a great deal of rock was broken during the debate last night about how the administration had defanged the surveillance state out of "political correctness" or some such nonsense, and how knowing about Malik's "Facebook postings" possibly could have enabled law enforcement to derail the San Bernardino massacre. This also was the basis for Donald Trump's unfortunate moment when he talked about "penetrating" the Internet.

If you want to look at the New Normal, with which my man Chuck Todd seems to be rather thoroughly impressed, look at how we jump at shadows. Put this announcement together with the freakout in LA and it makes you wonder if Daesh even has to spend any money building bombs anymore. All they need is an Internet café and some flannel-mouths in the United States intelligence community and they can derail daily life and a presidential campaign. It's pretty clear that it's time for the FBI to engage in a discreet, but thorough, search for leakers because the three days in which "THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO KILL US ON FACEBOOK! THANKS, OBAMA!" did nobody any good.

[stickdog99]

OK, after reading the newest round of bullshit on this, here is my take.

The "unnamed sources" in charge of media manipulation of this simply went too far by suggesting that Mailk had publicly posted pro-ISIS messages on social media before she got her fiancee visa.

This caused a big ruckus that Clown Car debate last night, with the Republicans accusing Obama of not having done what "every employer" does because of political correctness. So the Comey, the FBI lead investigator, was instructed to walk back what that one unnamed source had said. When Comey said Malik had made no public postings showing support for jihad at his bosses' behest, he forgot about the bogus FB post leak the whole ISIS connection originally depended on. It's easy to forget lies when you tell so many.

Later, more unnamed sources "corrected the record" to assure us that the alias post made on the day of the shooting on an alias account pledging allegiance to ISIS was not a "garble".

"Trust us; the only 'garble' was the one that the Republicans were having a field day with!"

[Elvis]

http://www.pe.com/articles/news-789502- ... ation.html

SAN BERNARDINO SHOOTING: News coverage has public asking 'Who said that?'

Inland residents who have followed media coverage of the mass shooting in San Bernardino can be excused for feeling whipsawed by information that has been frightening, confusing, and, sometimes, anonymous.

That piece from the Press Enterprise is superb—thanks! That whole post is a wealth of info.


Two things convinced me of a psyop: 1) multiple witnesses describing the shooters as three tall white men (and in that WaPo excerpt Stickdog included, the SB police chief says his initial description was "two to three white males"), and 2) the consistently anonymous nature of the sources for all of the damning 'leaks'. The Press Enterprise piece (the pe.com link) sheds light on how easy it is to manipulate "breaking" news coverage—and police response.

[Elvis]

Does anyone know of information about:


- Why the couple would have rented an SUV? I read something about rental a agreement?

They found a rental agreement for the house, but I find nothing about the SUV rental.


- Where the couple was during the four hours after the shooting and before the police began 'chasing' the SUV?

I assume that late-model rental cars all have built-in tracking, yet I haven't heard anything about tracking reports.


My next question was going to be, 'what was the source for the report that "witnesses appeared to recognize his voice and build even though he was wearing a ski mask"?'

But at least one er, reliable source for that is out there:

Law enforcement sources confirm to NPR's Dina Temple-Raston that Farook was employed by the San Bernardino County health department as an environmental health specialist. His name has also been reported as Sayed Rizwan Farooq.

A source tells Dina that witnesses appeared to recognize his voice and build even though he was wearing a ski mask.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... dino-calif

And this from NPR's "What We Know One Day After" piece (which should be called, "What We've Been Told One Day After"):

Farook was wearing a ski mask at the time of the shooting, law enforcement officials tell NPR's Dina Temple-Raston, but witnesses to the shooting still recognized him.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... -day-after

Dina Temple-Raston
Counterterrorism Correspondent

As part of NPR's national security team , Dina Temple-Raston reports about counterterrorism at home and abroad for NPR News. Her reporting can be heard on NPR's newsmagazines. She joined NPR in March 2007.

Recently, she was chosen for a Neiman Fellowship at Harvard. These fellowships are given to mid-career journalists.

http://www.npr.org/people/11209543/dina-temple-raston

Her contributions are all on the page, scroll down to see how she covers events and what a reliable member of the 'national security team' she is.

[divideandconquer]

In this age of trial by media, where mass shootings occur like clockwork, whatever is reported in the first 48 hours becomes the "truth". That's what people will remember, that is if they remember anything at all about this event as they occur so frequently they all begin to blend together. The next one should be occurring any day now.

Hell, at this point, over a week later, the FBI could admit the whole thing was staged, and unless the NY Times prints it above the fold, and FOX, CNN and MSNBC air it every hour on the hour, people will only remember what's reported during the media circus . In other words, it would take a media circus to counter another media circus.

Agreed. Look at how clear it's become, even if you only pay attention to the "mainstream" media, that the US deliberately avoided bombing ISIS, let them steal and sell oil, airdropped weapons and arms to them etc etc etc .... And that ISIS is in effect a proxy force for the US. But Americans have a self-imposed blind spot and simply refuse to believe it. I've been in some conversations where the cognitive dissonance in this regard is so severe it borders on a serious mental illness.

Very true. In my experience, if you mention what's actually been reported in the mainstream about ISIS, people deny it, or try to rationalize it using the most fucked up "logic" ...America doesn't have a choice when dealing with such evil ....we try to help who we think are the good guys and they end up turning into ISIS ...America's constantly having to choose between two evils for the greater good... ..America's not perfect but we're still the greatest country on earth...

[tapitsbo]

Haha, what would these people do if you explained "we" are a greater threat to ourselves than ISIS is

[backtoiam]

I listened to as much of the Presidential debate as I could stomach. It was not a debate about a president of a country. It was a debate about the management of a country now named ISIS and the pretend agenda of such a country. The ironic manipulations of the citizens of the new nation of ISIS. The citizens of the nation of ISIS do not know they live in the nation of ISIS. I asked my nephew yesterday what he thought about ISIS. He said "it is complete bullshit but I cannot tell anybody that because they think I am crazy." He is the last of a generation that will ever know how this all came about. I have no idea how he figured it out. He said "something just didn't seem right about all this but I can't tell anybody else."

[tapitsbo]

backtoiam, do you really believe younger and newer generations are becoming LESS skeptical about such matters? I'm not so sure.

[Nordic]

I listened to as much of the Presidential debate as I could stomach. It was not a debate about a president of a country. It was a debate about the management of a country now named ISIS and the pretend agenda of such a country. The ironic manipulations of the citizens of the new nation of ISIS. The citizens of the nation of ISIS do not know they live in the nation of ISIS. I asked my nephew yesterday what he thought about ISIS. He said "it is complete bullshit but I cannot tell anybody that because they think I am crazy." He is the last of a generation that will ever know how this all came about. I have no idea how he figured it out. He said "something just didn't seem right about all this but I can't tell anybody else."

Well that's one of the problems -- the perception that people will think you're nuts or one of "those" conspiracy theorists if you bring this stuff up. But I have found when I do bring it up that a hell of a lot of people feel quite similarly! Sure there's others like we are talking about here and they are likely in a majority but I'm starting to wonder just how big a majority it even is (or perhaps isn't).

I've said it before but one of the most powerful tools the propagandists use is telling us "what we think". That, like everything they tell us, is very likely a lie. "Most Americans believe ...." Ha, yeah, most Americans believe that they're being lied to constantly!!!

[tapitsbo]

"we all propagandists now"

[backtoiam]

backtoiam, do you really believe younger and newer generations are becoming LESS skeptical about such matters? I'm not so sure.

I agree with you. But the newer generations will only ponder upon the bullshit that has been stacked upon other layers of the bullshit onion. Few will penetrate it. The television has doomed humanity. The television is a hypnotic device without equal. Babies are growing up watching an Ipad programmed with mind screw. I don't see that this will change.

[Elvis]

People call it crazy because the "conspiracy" well has been poisoned by both well-meaning and deliberate idiocies. One is being messed with, the other is just messing with people. Both help to assure that most people don't take any of it seriously, thus helping the perpetrators get away with it.

[backtoiam]

It does not get any better than this....what a bullshit onion this is.

By Yasmeen Abutaleb


Exclusive: San Bernardino shooters buried in quiet funeral following Islamic rituals

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, who opened fire on a San Bernardino holiday party earlier this month, were buried Tuesday in a quiet, graveside funeral guarded by FBI agents.

Many of those who attended mosque with the couple refused to attend, two mosque members said.

U.S.-born Farook, 28, and his Pakistani-born wife Malik, 29, killed 14 people and injured 21, in what U.S. officials have called a terrorist attack. They died later that day in a gun battle with police.

The funeral followed traditional Islamic rituals, said an attendee. At a Muslim cemetery hours away from San Bernardino, the bodies were cleansed according to Islamic rules, wrapped in white cloth and buried.

The funeral attendee and another person familiar with the situation, both of whom asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation, said it took a week to find a graveyard willing to accept the bodies.

They said the husband and wife were ultimately buried in a cemetery far from San Bernardino, after a closer facility refused to take the bodies because of fears the graves would be desecrated. Neither person would identify the cemetery where the couple was buried.

Muslims are usually buried within 24 hours of dying, but family members and community members had to wait for the bodies to be released by law enforcement officials and then for permission from a cemetery.

Neither source would say which cemetery refused to bury the couple, but a woman at the Islamic Cemetery & Masjid in Adelanto, Calif. – less than an hour from San Bernardino – confirmed the cemetery had refused to bury the bodies, in part out of a fear of backlash, but also for “other reasons". She declined to give her name.

The family of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the two men accused of carrying out the Boston Marathon bombing attack in 2013, faced similar difficulty finding a place to bury his body after the attack. Graveyards in Massachusetts refused to accept the body, and the family ultimately buried him in an unmarked grave in Virginia.

About 10 people went to the funeral, the attendee said, including members of Farook's family and people who used to pray with him at mosques in San Bernardino County.

But most Muslims in the community refused to participate in the burial or perform the funeral prayer, called Salat Al-Janazah, according to the source who did not attend the funeral.

"I don't forgive him myself," said the mosque-goer who did not attend the funeral. Still, he added, "I pray mercy for him, and we Muslims know God is merciful. But he's also just."

Farook and Malik left behind a 6-month-old daughter, who has been in state custody since the Dec. 2 massacre. Farook's sister and brother-in-law, Saira and Farhan Khan, have said they hope to adopt their niece.

An attorney for family members did not immediately return a call seeking comment for this story.



(Reporting by Yasmeen Abutaleb, additional reporting by Idrees Ali in San Bernardino,; Editing by Sue Horton and Ken Wills)
http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-san-ber ... 55115.html

[stickdog99]

How sick. Black magic of Satanic majesty's request

[identity]

OK, after reading the newest round of bullshit on this, here is my take.

The "unnamed sources" in charge of media manipulation of this simply went too far by suggesting that Mailk had publicly posted pro-ISIS messages on social media before she got her fiancee visa.

This caused a big ruckus that Clown Car debate last night, with the Republicans accusing Obama of not having done what "every employer" does because of political correctness. So the Comey, the FBI lead investigator, was instructed to walk back what that one unnamed source had said. When Comey said Malik had made no public postings showing support for jihad at his bosses' behest, he forgot about the bogus FB post leak the whole ISIS connection originally depended on. It's easy to forget lies when you tell so many.

Later, more unnamed sources "corrected the record" to assure us that the alias post made on the day of the shooting on an alias account pledging allegiance to ISIS was not a "garble".

"Trust us; the only 'garble' was the one that the Republicans were having a field day with!"

Joseph P. Farrell speaking on the MH370 disappearance:

"... The story has evolved over time. And that, to me, is a sure indicator that they are concocting their interpretation–they're concocting what happened–as they create the story. It's very much like if you go back and you examine... I have a documentary called Evidence of Revision, and It's one of the best documentaries out there... the major assassinations of the 1960s beginning with JFK, then through RFK, and onto Dr. King. And all it is, is it's a compilation of the newsfeeds as they happened; there's very little commentary, you just sit and watch, and you think, 'Oh my God, they are creating the story right in front of our eyes,' and that's what they're doing here, I suspect."