The “Alternative Right"

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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:00 pm

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ALTERNATIVE INTERNET RACISM: ALT RIGHT AND THE NEW FASCIST BRANDING

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DECEMBER 18, 2015 ANTIFASCISTFRONT

In a recent call in show, conservative radio voice Rush Limbaugh got a call from someone named Roy who asked him about a new brand of the right wing that is straying from older conservatism. “What I’m interested in, is all this stuff about conservatives being older people,” said the caller. “But I think that’s gonna quickly change. I think there’s a group of younger people called ‘the alt right.’ And it started in the last few years in Europe because of the Muslim invasion. And I think it’s… They’re beginning to get people over here, youngsters between 18, 25, 26, to convert to what they call ‘the alt right.’ I think it’s gonna be pretty intense. I think you should keep an eye out for it.”

Many capitalized on Rush’s response, which seemed happy about the caller’s reference to the rise of the cultural right amongst young people. As the Daily Shoah mentioned in a following show, Rush likely did not know exactly what he was referring to. Though Rush has started using the Cuckservative meme to discuss conservatives who do not take up racist immigration policies, he certainly is a part of the conservative beltway that is not only not publicly in favor of this white nationalist contingent, it is probably not even much aware of it.

The term “alt right” was then injected into the Twittersphere as a popular hashtag, spreading around the regular reactionary troll dynamic that links together racist blogs and podcasts using labels like “neoreaction” and “Dark Enlightenment.” This term lead to Buzzfeed doing a story on it where they interview Richard Spencer about the term, leading him to even do a follow up video to discuss the term and how it is evolved.

Though in anti-racist/anti-fascist circles have certainly come across this as they research the new face of white nationalism and the pseudo-intellectual radical right. Spencer is the right person to be talked to about this since he, for all practical purposes, coined the term.

In 2010 Spencer had finally left a short lived career in paleoconservative publishing to start Alternative Right. He was plucked out of a Duke University graduate program after writing an article about the “Duke Lacross Case,” where a group of white male students were alleged to have sexually assaulted a black sex worker. This was eventually picked up by the American Conservative, a publication started by Pat Buchanan, and came on as an Assistant Editor. It has been alleged that he was eventually fired when his racism came to light, but he could have left on his own accord, and went to the further-right web publication Taki’s Magazine. In his time there he continued moving further to the right and consorting with groups of people on the fringes of “acceptable” conservatism. Through this became friends with people like Paul Gottfried, American Renaissance’s Jared Taylor, Human BioDiversity proponent Steve Sailer, and a whole host of other people with “heretical views” who all tried to cram into the creases of CPAC.

He then created the web publication Alternative Right, a term he started using in 2008, to bring together all of these different groups of people who were dissenting from Neoconservatism and the Washington Consensus. These would include white nationalists, “race realists,” radical traditionalists, folk religionists, right Rothbardians, national anarchists, and so many more, all of which took on radically dissenting views from the conservative movement and the GOP. The publication became a “go to” spot for a new type of white nationalism, one that took its queues from French and broad European intellectuals, looked towards ideas like Eurasianism and Metagenetics, resurrected philosophers like Oswald Spangler and Ernst Junger, and generally coalesced around a disdain for the “modern world.” They often opposed the Iraq war, environmental destruction, and were critical of American Christianity. The publication certainly had name people writing for it, such as VDare founder Peter Brimelow and, later disgraced, Heritage Foundation Fellow Jason Richwine, as well as new, openly racist commentators like Colin Liddell. He started Vanguard Radio as a regular podcast for the website, which featured people ranging from Pat Buchanan to Jared Taylor.

Greg Johnson, editor of the neo-fascist Counter-Currents Publishing, wrote as then editor of the white nationalist Occidental Quarterly, that the alt right banner is bringing together a wide variety of people who are forced out of the mainstream and could benefit from the comfort of one another.

[Alternative Right] will attract the brightest ‘young’ conservatives and libertarians and expose them to far broader intellectual horizons, including race realism, White Nationalism, the European New Right, the Conservative Revolution, Traditionalism, neo-paganism, agrarianism, Third Positionism, anti-feminism, and right-wing anti-capitalists, ecologists, bioregionalists, and small-is-beautiful types.


Spencer eventually moved over to take the reigns of the National Policy Institute, a white nationalist think tank, and start the website and publication, Radix Journal. After continuing to do the podcast at Alternative Right for some time, he moved it over to the Radix Journal podcast, and even pulled the domain for the original Alternative Right website. This create some animosity with between Spencer and the two co-hosts of Vanguard Radio who had taken over editorial duties of Alternative Right, but they went on to create the New Alternative Right to keep their progress going. Spencer has gone on to make Radix Journal a white nationalist hot spot, as well as the yearly National Policy Institute conferences, one of which caused him to be deported by the Hungarian government when he tried to do a pan-European event.

Spencer has largely walked away from the term alt right simply because his politics, and those he semi-leads, have specified a bit and he feels that the moment that term inhabited is somewhat over. Instead, the term has taken on a life of its own in that it represents a certain sphere of nationalist politics today. From the Right Stuff to Counter-Currents, the “alt right” now often means an internet focused string of commentators, blogs, Twitter accounts, podcasters, and Reddit trolls, all of which combine scientific racism, romantic nationalism, and deconstructionist neo-fascist ideas to create a white nationalist movement that has almost no backwards connection with neo-Nazis and the KKK. As Spencer often said, they had a “different starting point” than conventional conservatism, often coming from their disavowal of human equality. It is an easy way of differentiating them from older forms of white nationalism that they feel they have no cultural affinity for.

Much of what distinguishes the alt right is aesthetics, education, and language choices, while the core ideas remain the same. They maintain traditional racism and anti-semitism, a strong sense of gender roles, a traditionalism about behavior, and a necessity towards national identity, though there have been some acceptance of queer members and a move away from strict Christianity and towards Nordic paganism and the Radical Traditionalism of Julius Evola. This broad sphere is attempting to reclaim an intellectual, spiritual, and social movement for the far-right, and, except for some exceptions, they like to couch their language in intellectual double speak rather than just stacking racial slurs.

In recent weeks the alt right hashtag has started trending mainly because of the concerted effort of many of the disparate trolls forcing it to do so, but it needs to be seen in exactly the context it exists. This is old-school racism and neo-fascism, except looking to wear a suit and tie rather than a white hood. As Neoconservative David From said about them, they are
“going to be white nationalists, but, by God, they’re going to be a little fancy about it.” The attempt here is to rebrand neo-fascism as something new and hip, which has worked in some circles, but it needs to be recognized and treated as exactly what it is.

While the alt right would broadly be opposed to electoral politics, over the last couple weeks the use of the #altright has been to post constant fawning tributes to Donald Trump. His recent insulting jokes towards a Jewish audience, claims to ban Muslim immigration, and general attack on minorities has mobilized digital reactionaries to broaden their umbrella to include support for Trump. This is less for his ability to actually win an election and do anything significant politically, but for his ability to generally unleash the subdermal racism in the country that they can then use to mobilize more to join the broader alt right. This kind of entryism has a real history of success as Trump represents a 2015 version of the 1964 Barry Goldwater campaign, which helped push conservatives to the right and flood in open white nationalist organizations for the next couple decades

The alt right itself is going to stay the mark of the 21st century’s more intellectually minded and diverse neo-fascism, one that is more willing to sacrifice much of the baggage of older white nationalism so that they can create a movement that undermines the basic values of democracy, equality, and the “enlightenment.” Understanding this new branding gives anti-fascist the tools to confront the new kind of fascist movement that is going to vie for power in times of crisis and turmoil.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:40 pm

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RACISTS TODAY: WHY IS RUSSIA TODAY USING WHITE NATIONALIST COMMENTATORS?

DECEMBER 21, 2015T

The news cycle has had another spike around the clickbaiting Trump campaign now that Vladamir Putin has thrown some tacit support around the racist billionaire. This is not surprising given Russia’s use of racialist internal politics and support of nationalists in Eastern Europe, but this also stokes tensions between Trump and the GOP as the Republican perception of Russia tends to be as though it was still the Cold War. This gave a lot of relevance to Russia Today, the essentially westernized cable news channel that is so popular in U.S. social media circles for its commentary, debates, and somewhat sensationalized news coverage.

As the Putin endorsement story coalesced, RT thought it would be a good idea to bring on Richard Spencer, the founder of Alternative Right and the Radix Journal. Spencer has been on RT as a commentator, and not a subject, a large number of times, usually talking about U.S. foreign policy. What they fail to mention is that Spencer is a leading white nationalist and has become the intellectual center of the “alt right” neo-fascist movement in America.

Speaking to RT, he joked about American audiences and their “shrill” ideological battles, but then “lays it down” for the RT audience.

This is another thing where the American media doesn’t really understand Putin. Because Putin is not a shrill ideologue like they are. Putin will speak diplomatically, will speak carefully and they just don’t get that. I think what Putin is saying when he says that Trump might deepen relations is that Trump is not going to treat Russia as an enemy. Remember, Mitt Romney who wasn’t even the craziest of the conservative bunch said that our number one geopolitical adversary is Russia. That is ridiculous. Anyone who would say that is not looking at the world as it is; they are looking at the world through some 1980’s Cold War rosy glasses. Trump, I think, would really deepen the relations in a sense he wouldn’t treat Russia as the Soviet Union or as Nazi Germany or some rogue state. He would treat Russia realistically as a state that has its interests, that has interests that might align with the US in certain situations and I think he would treat that where conflicts would be Trump would make a deal. He would deal with Russia as a real, legitimate actor of a legitimate state. So, in that sense, I truly do hope Trump gets elected. I think the world would be a more peaceful place with this bombastic man in power.


He has gone on RT and discussed the conflict in Ukraine, calling this a “new Cold war” in a battle between Moscow and Washington. His idea that this is a “proxy war” is not an uncommon one, yet his interest in this comes from the nationalist militias that have formed in Ukraine over anti-EU tension.

Spencer, who leads the white nationalist “think tank,” The National Policy Institute, the “race realist” publishing house, Washington Summit Publishers, and the all-racist culture journal, Radix, is not someone who would normally be considered to be a commentator. Generally, these are experts in a particular field, at least those with moderate views that are not tainted by very extreme bigotries. Spencer holds none of this expertship, and instead is someone that, in the U.S. has been the subject of “point and sputter” stories, to use Spencer’s own reference to coverage by Rachel Maddow. Spencer is someone who believes in forming a white Ethnostate, that black and Latino people have innately lower IQs than whites, and that we need to restore a fascist empire with European “spiritual” qualities. This is not the voice of a general policy commentator, so why is RT employing him as such?

This is certainly not the first time the RT has brought on co-hosts with this type of reputation. In the past they have also hosted national anarchist Keith Preston, who joins Spencer on the “alt right” sharing his weird synthesis of anarchism with far-right libertarianism, nationalism, and bizarre ideas about tribal identity. RT has hosted one of the leaders of the race realist and “human biodiversity” movement, which is primarily the idea that people of color in the global south are intellectually inferior and prone to criminal behavior. Jared Taylor, the founder of the New Century Foundation and American Renaissance, has come on multiple times, often given complete platforms to debate his ideas about diversity and racial inequality. Founder of the White Student Union and the Traditionalist Youth Network, Matthew Heimbach, has also gone on RT for a softball interview where he was able to prove he was just “not racist.”

When looking at RT broadly, they are not just leaning to the far right as they often have people like anti-racist commentator Tim Wise. The real question here is why people so far outside of the mainstream and who’s ideas are not relevant to general commentary on news issues are allowed to present contemporary news stories. One simple answer is that RT does not have the cachet to actually attract name talent, which is likely a large part of it, as well as the fact that the primary RT audience is not going to know the difference between different unknown people. The other side of this is that they are likely carving out a niche for themselves by providing fringe and sensationalistic commentary, which, though in different types of content, is commonly done at places like Fox News and Al Jazeera.

We stand with the Anti-Fascist Action principle of “no platform,” which means we do not debate with fascists and allow them a platform to share their ideas. The easiest way to approach this issue with RT is to continue to make our voices heard that we will not tolerate these type of commentators to be allowed in as “just another voice on an issue.”
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Searcher08 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:43 pm

We stand with the Anti-Fascist Action principle of “no platform,” which means we do not debate with fascists and allow them a platform to share their ideas. The easiest way to approach this issue with RT is to continue to make our voices heard that we will not tolerate these type of commentators to be allowed in as “just another voice on an issue.”


Except of course if the fascists are Israeli, in which case they will be labelled as 'settler-colonialists' and then they will 'Stand With Us', if you excuse the pun.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby tapitsbo » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:46 pm

"No platform" is quickly becoming a way for an increasingly irrelevant minority to isolate themselves in an echo chamber.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby DrEvil » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:06 pm

Searcher08 » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:43 am wrote:
We stand with the Anti-Fascist Action principle of “no platform,” which means we do not debate with fascists and allow them a platform to share their ideas. The easiest way to approach this issue with RT is to continue to make our voices heard that we will not tolerate these type of commentators to be allowed in as “just another voice on an issue.”


These people scare me just as much as fascists do. Next they'll want ISP's to add fascist filters along with porn filters. For the children!
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:22 pm

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Re: The “Alternative Right"

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American Dream » Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:22 pm wrote:Check out where you're at right now, y'all...


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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby jakell » Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:38 am

DrEvil » Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:06 pm wrote:
Searcher08 » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:43 am wrote:
We stand with the Anti-Fascist Action principle of “no platform,” which means we do not debate with fascists and allow them a platform to share their ideas. The easiest way to approach this issue with RT is to continue to make our voices heard that we will not tolerate these type of commentators to be allowed in as “just another voice on an issue.”


These people scare me just as much as fascists do. Next they'll want ISP's to add fascist filters along with porn filters. For the children!


That'll be RI filtered out then; one of the larger concentrations of fascist buzzwords and images around, probably even more than your average WN site where the denizens have done all that stuff in their younger days and like to talk about other stuff too.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:32 pm

The Hateful Eight is not just a Quentin Tarantino Movie

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By Heidi Loney

Last month, I penned an article called The Mainstreaming of White Pride in which I outlined the reasons why I believed that both the Students for Western Civilisation and in turn, Toronto’s white student union are innately racist. At the beginning of December, VICE interviewed well known white supremacist and Alex P. Keaton look-alike Richard Spencer in the piece, We Asked a White Supremacist What He Thinks of Donald Trump (catchy title, huh?). Spencer used doublespeak to disguise his true beliefs:

…he [Spencer] prefers the terms “alternative right” and “identitarianist” over “racist” or “white supremacist.” To be an identitarian, Spencer says, is to say, “Identity is the most important question to answer. Who are we racially? Who are we historically? Who are we in terms of our experience? Who are we in terms of our community?” This is a fancy way of saying that he is a racist.


British professor Matthew Feldman shows why Richard Spencer might choose to use euphemisms in Feldman’s essay, Doublespeak: Radical Right Rhetoric Today:

…separation between “hardcore” fascists and “the public” was influentially posited in Cas Mudde’s landmark study from 2000, The Ideology of the Extreme Right, claiming that such groups typically have a more “moderate ‘frontstage’” intended for public consumption and “a radical ‘back-stage’” targeted at neo-fascist activists…For the radical right will not simply show the same face, with the same jackboots and salutes and manifestos of old. They too know their history.


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Richard Spencer: Sears model or white nationalist?
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(Interesting side note: Richard Spencer and fellow white nationalist Matthew Heimbach, while their ideologies are similar, do disagree on something. Heimbach is against gay rights in any any or form, while one of Spencer’s colleague Jack Donovan identifies as an androphile [Alt-right doublespeak for gay], a man who is attracted to other men. Because of this wedge, Heimbach has been forbidden to speak at any functions hosted by Spencer, since Jack Donovan is a regular speaker for the National Policy Institute. See more on this in Queer Fascism: Why white nationalists are trying to drop homophobia)

So we can no longer rely on the symbols of old to know when we are facing hatred: the days of the white hood, swastikas and heavily tattooed Nazi skinheads, while not completely gone, are now replaced by the serene images of ancient western civilization, Odinism, and Viking lore.

Hate looks like the boy next door

Throw away your stereotypical back woods inbreeds and stupid rednecks. The new face of hate looks something like this – squeaky clean looking boys; the kind you would gladly hire to mow your lawn or have walk your dog. They’re clean cut, intelligent and well educated. Alan Dutton, the national director of the Canadian Anti-racism Education and Research Society tells me in an interview that,

the stereotype is that white supremacists are just low IQ, working class, alienated men is totally inaccurate. The recruitment of young Canadian men and women into white supremacist groups on campus goes back a long time.


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Manly man and author of “The Way of Men”,
androphile Jack Donovan


Along with their education, these young men do have other things in common: They all seem to love JRR Tolkien, Viking and Norse culture and anti-feminist author and former Satanist Jack Donovan. They also differ on some things. But what they all are is hard right, racist extremists – some more radical than others.

But what is surpising is that they do not all follow the same ideology – this group is a jumble of Third Positionists, Indentitarians, Alternative Right (Alt-Right) and Radical Traditionalists. There might even be a bit of Dark Enlightenment or Neoreacationary (NRx) thrown in for good measure (here’s a highly detailed explanation of this anti-democratic movement at Slate Star Codex). There are so many sections and subsections of these movements that it’s enough to make your head spin.

A year ago, Generation Indentity – Canada created their facebook group and website. According to Wikipedia, the Indentitarian movement, of which Richard Spencer identifies, is a largely anti-immigrant youth movement that began in 2002 in France and derived from the French Nouvelle Droite Génération Identitaire. The movement uses the upper case Greek letter Lamda for their symbol, which was used as a shield pattern by the Spartan Army who were greatly outnumbered by the Persians during the Battle of Thermopylae. (for the Hollywood version, you can always watch their adaptation of Frank Miller’s 300)


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The logo for Generation Identity – Canada
from the groups’ Facebook page.


But what all these movements are in a nutshell, with the exception of Third Positionists (which is a bizarre mashup of right and left) are ultra-hard-right, like further right than even neo-conservative and paleo-conservative movements, or the politics of David Frum and Pat Buchananrespectively. You know, if Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump moved into murkier, shark infested waters – where his administration puts a full stop on immigration of Muslims and Mexicans – and they gather them all up and put them in camps or even repatriate them back to the “old country”, even if they were born in the U.S. of A.

But this band of racists doesn’t just hate on race and culture. They hate on women too (especially feminists) and women’s reproductive rights, science (many anti-vaxers are hard right), homosexuals, and the disabled. Some of them even hate on the 1% and corporations.


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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Searcher08 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:06 am

jakell » Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:38 am wrote:
DrEvil » Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:06 pm wrote:
Searcher08 » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:43 am wrote:
We stand with the Anti-Fascist Action principle of “no platform,” which means we do not debate with fascists and allow them a platform to share their ideas. The easiest way to approach this issue with RT is to continue to make our voices heard that we will not tolerate these type of commentators to be allowed in as “just another voice on an issue.”


These people scare me just as much as fascists do. Next they'll want ISP's to add fascist filters along with porn filters. For the children!


That'll be RI filtered out then; one of the larger concentrations of fascist buzzwords and images around, probably even more than your average WN site where the denizens have done all that stuff in their younger days and like to talk about other stuff too.


It is just such a fabulous thing though, to have the worlds largest ongoing OCD / ASPIE driven collection of fascist imagery and tales of the radical right. Kinda like the Christian Fundie pastors who have really really extensive collections of "Tom of Finland" as examples of "evil Homersexualists and their degeneracy".

It is kind of sexually transgressive, I think; create a de-humanised Other who you find repulsive and obsessively show-off your scrapbook of articles and pics from under the bed. Combine that with an pseudo-anarcho-progressive world view that only allows (very poorly defined) "critique" and "analysis" rather than exploring radical alternatives, looking for value, using intuition or considering factual data.

I don't see anything which can be done if it's an OCD / Aspie obsession because it has nothing to do with R.I. - I just point out globalist Anton the Sorosian AntiFaFa shite and the "Dont call Israel Fascist!! Leave Israel ALONE!!!" nonsense when they come up. :)
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:25 am

*Token Disclaimer About Not Partaking in Amateur Psychological Diagnosis, Written by a Moderator Who Openly Pathologizes All Of You*

With that out of the way, I'm glad you're viewing AD from this perspective. It's not like he's going to lead a coup here any time soon, and we're in even less danger of him controlling a political movement. We're all in this together and I think we can accommodate him just fine, mostly because we have so far, for years now.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby tapitsbo » Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:21 pm

Their commentaries of choice are only becoming more instructive, though.

When I see red flags deployed in regards to the question "who are we", I know that this is the question I should be asking above all others.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:58 pm

We Asked a White Supremacist What He Thinks of Donald Trump

By Drew Millard December 10, 2015

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People like to compare Donald Trump to Hitler, both for legitimate reasons and because people love comparing people they don't like to Hitler. After he announced his proposal for banning all Muslim travel to the United States, actual Nazis announced their support of him, which essentially functions as an anti-endorsement of the Republican presidential candidate, who despite logic and reason, continues to lead in the polls.

It's not just the Nazis who like Trump. It's the white nationalists, too. Take Richard Spencer, who heads up the nationalist think tank National Policy Institute and has been described as an "academic racist" by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Spencer is of a new breed of white nationalist, who on the surface eschews outright racism and instead prefers to remain upbeat, simply stressing that he's really, really amped about being white.

"[Trump] seems to genuinely care about the historic American nation that is white people." —Richard Spencer


He is also, to a lesser degree, amped on Donald Trump. He told me he appreciates the fact that Trump brings identity into politics in a way that few other candidates have done, and that Trump is actively driving people towards the nationalist cause.

Charming in a sociopathic sort of way, Spencer bristled when I asked him over the phone if he identified as a white supremacist; he prefers the terms "alternative right" and "identitarianist" over "racist" or "white supremacist." To be an identitarian, Spencer says, is to say, "Identity is the most important question to answer. Who are we racially? Who are we historically? Who are we in terms of our experience? Who are we in terms of our community?" This is a fancy way of saying that he is a racist.


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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby brainpanhandler » Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:04 pm

tapitsbo » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:21 pm wrote:Their commentaries of choice are only becoming more instructive, though.

When I see red flags deployed in regards to the question "who are we", I know that this is the question I should be asking above all others.


When I see people deliberately write in a manner which at best hints at what they mean I see red flags.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby jakell » Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:05 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:25 pm wrote:*Token Disclaimer About Not Partaking in Amateur Psychological Diagnosis, Written by a Moderator Who Openly Pathologizes All Of You*

With that out of the way, I'm glad you're viewing AD from this perspective. It's not like he's going to lead a coup here any time soon, and we're in even less danger of him controlling a political movement. We're all in this together and I think we can accommodate him just fine, mostly because we have so far, for years now.


I would say that this is retrospectively overconfident. While it's true that RI is now finding its way around this rather lumpen phenomena, I think that's more of an indication of the way the wind is blowing anyway; people are taking the standard 'anti-fascist' diatribes less seriously.

There is a thornier issue from the same stable that arose a little while back.. gender issues , or rather the promoting of the zanier end of these with no comeback tolerated. That will be test of RI I think.
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