Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

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Postby parel » Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:50 pm

Wasn't sure whether to put this in the Hebdo thread or here, but it relates to the hysteria that is being generated around this incident, so I will put it here.

Click the article for a more coherent reading. I'm not sure how to embed twitter links besides taking screenshots.

‘Fascist’: Charlie Hebdo under fire for depicting drowned Syrian boy as pervert in Germany

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A new caricature by Charlie Hebdo has landed the satirical magazine in hot water, as social media users have been outraged by a cartoon depicting a drowned 3-year old Syrian refugee as an adult carrying out sexual attacks in Germany.
The black-and-white cartoon has a small illustration of Aylan Kurdi lying face down on a Turkish beach, linking it to the infamous photo that touched the whole world in September. The image of little Aylan, who died along with his mother and brother on their way to Greece, has become a symbol of the refugee crisis.

In its caricature, Charlie Hebdo has now depicted the boy as an adult chasing two women with his hands stretched out. His face resembles that of an animal rather than a human being’s. Titled “Migrants,” the cartoon has an explanatory caption that reads: “What would little Aylan have grown up to be? A groper in Germany.”

https://twitter.com/faizaz/status/68726 ... wsrc%5Etfw

The provocative image appears to be a satirical take on the unprecedented spate of attacks on women that took place on New Year’s Eve in the streets of Cologne, Germany. The attackers were mostly described as young men of Arab or North African descent, a fact that prompted some to call Germany’s welcome to refugees and open policy towards migrants into question.

Charlie Hebdo’s Wednesday cartoon has failed to touch its readers, however, but rather triggered a wave of condemnation, as people have been accusing the magazine and its editors of racism.

On Twitter, the image was called “disgusting,”“callous,” and fascist, just to give a few examples of people’s reactions.

https://twitter.com/sebnemvns/status/68 ... wsrc%5Etfw


This is the second time Charlie Hebdo has drawn a caricature of 3-year old Aylan Kurdi. In September, the magazine, which has just recently marked one year since a deadly attack on its office in Paris, came up with a cartoon showing a drowned Kurdi on the beach. A McDonald’s billboard near his body reads “Two children’s menus for the price of one,” in reference to Kurdi and his brother. Its mocking caption reads: “So close”.

https://twitter.com/TruthYoda/status/68 ... wsrc%5Etfw
Charlie Hebdo was harshly criticized following its publication, with many beginning to question: “#JeSuisCharlie now?” – a hashtag that was started shortly after the terrorist attack on the magazine in January 2014, which was used as a sign of support for Charlie Hebdo’s team.
https://twitter.com/ThatNoor/status/687 ... wsrc%5Etfw

Supported by many in Russia in 2014, the sympathy fell away in October 2015, when the magazine published a caricature depicting the Russian A231 plane crash, which killed 224 people.

READ MORE: ‘Je ne suis PAS Charlie’: Russians respond to Hebdo plane crash caricatures with own drawings

That picture prompted Russian internet users to adopt the #JeNeSuisPasCharlie (“I am not Charlie”) hashtag.
https://twitter.com/RT_America/status/6 ... wsrc%5Etfw

On January 6, the magazine issued a commemorating issue with words on the cover reading: “One year on, the killer is still out there.”

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Re: Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

Postby parel » Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:00 pm

Many links at article.

From Cronulla to Cologne, it’s the same rhetoric
By Kate Davison
14.Jan.16

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Watching the fallout from the New Year’s Eve incidents in Cologne and several other German cities has been like watching the shock waves from an explosion as it gradually surges outwards in all directions. And it’s far from over.

170 victim reports have been filed to Cologne police. Many charges relate to theft, and many involve sexual assault, including at least one rape, allegedly perpetrated by men of ‘North African appearance’. But on the evening itself, police failed to respond adequately – in some cases at all – to victims’ reports, despite larger presences across Germany due to a terror warning in Munich. In fact, 500 officers were present in the square in Cologne. (Here’s a good summary in English, put together by the editors and writers at Der Spiegel.)

It is the sexual assault that has been at the centre of the story, not the victims. Indeed, it is the idea of sexual assault perpetrated upon German women by foreigners that has been the epicentre of the political explosion. Since 1 January, there have been calls to close the borders, end all German intake of refugees and asylum seekers, and immediately deport any non-German found guilty of sexual harassment. These calls have been echoed across the political spectrum. In fact, it is becoming increasingly difficult to find a politician who has not made some sort of public statement on ‘Cologne’, including the German Chancellor Angela Merkel, whose portfolio does not usually include sexual assault and petty theft on the streets of Cologne.

Not even the Paris terror attacks of November last year appear to have had such a destabilising effect on Germany’s so-called ‘open door’ policy on immigration and asylum – but perhaps that is because the mass killings in Paris didn’t involve questions of moral and cultural standards around sexuality and gender relations.

By now, it is well-known how ferociously the events have been seized upon by conservatives and radical right-wing groups opposed to immigration. The language of the public debate has been predictably filled with calls to defend ‘our women’ from the ‘uncivilised’ hordes of medieval barbarians from the Middle East. Vigilante groups have formed. One announced on Facebook that it would be organising ‘patrols’ around Cologne with the intention of ‘cleaning up’.

‘We’re not out to start a war,’ the group stated, ‘but neither will we turn a blind eye when women are attacked and groped.’

‘We want to step up and offer our assistance,’ said the founder of Cologne Citizens’ Defence (which recruits from sports fighters, bodybuilders and bouncers), in order to ‘make the city safe for our ladies.’ Within a few days its Facebook presence ballooned to over 9000 members.

On Sunday night, a group of at least 20 men attacked 11 ‘foreigners’, including Pakistanis, Guineans and Syrians. Two of the victims were hospitalised. On Tuesday in the eastern city of Leipzig, following a rally by the local branch of right-wing anti-Islam movement Pegida, more than 200 Nazis went on a rampage through a left-wing district smashing shops and businesses. Earlier at the rally, placards bearing slogans such as ‘Rapefugees not welcome’ could be seen.

To an Australian audience, these arguments might sound familiar: ‘Defending our women’ was a catch-cry of the Anglo-Australian mob on a racist rampage in Cronulla in 2005. Almost a decade later, following an alleged sexual assault by a Sri Lankan asylum seeker, then Minister for Immigration Scott Morrison called for the same demands now emerging from the German parliament: increased criminalisation, surveillance and police controls of asylum seekers.

In Germany, feigned concern for women has by no means been the preserve of right-wing street movements. Rather, it has been reflected at every level of the political establishment. Loud and indignant statements have been made by many conservative politicians – some of whom, as recently as 1997, voted against legislative reform to (finally!) criminalise rape within marriage.

As left-wing publicist Jakob Augstein noted in Der Spiegel, ‘the women of Cologne are but minor characters’ in the unfolding spectacle. In fact, Augstein notes, women are being doubly abused, as illustrated by the front covers of centre-right Focus magazine, and the centre-left daily newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung.

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‘Women accuse! After the sex-attacks by migrants: are we still tolerant or already blind?’


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‘Many young Muslims are incapable of relaxed interaction with the opposite sex. These are always highly sexualised situations. This, too, lies behind the excesses in Cologne.’ (SZ has now issued a public apology for the image.)



Both covers manage to be racist, and gratuitously, viscerally sexist at the same time.

It has been seductive for many, including liberal feminists, to throw the focus onto what Germany’s former minister for women, Christian Democrat Christina Schroeder, called the ‘violence-legitimising masculinity norms of Muslim culture’. Certainly, the latest published information on the perpetrators make such lazy thinking easy: Cologne police now say they have identified 19 suspects (a far cry from the 1000 figure that was still being quoted a week ago), none of whom is a German citizen. Nine of them are in Germany ‘illegally’, ten are asylum seekers. The majority are from the North African region, mostly Morocco. One hails from Syria.

According to Cologne police statistics, 40 per cent of North African immigrants fall foul of the law in some way within 12 months of arrival (compared with 0.5 per cent of Syrians). North Rhine-Westphalian Interior Minister Ralf Jäger claims that this is due to pressure upon young men to begin earning money as quickly as possible in large sums, ‘in order to pay their people smugglers’. This may be part of the picture, to be sure, but social and economic exclusion is also a significant factor – it always is where petty crime is involved.

These suspects have posed a challenge to unhelpful narratives aimed at denying any asylum seeker involvement. But, along with holding individual perpetrators to full account, the conditions of possibility for such acts need to be tackled. As such, it’s even more important to take a principled stand against racism, Fortress Europe and social exclusion.

Furthermore, we need a solid commitment to women’s rights. Socioeconomic inequality is a major fertiliser for sexist ideology. Too many commentators to mention here have identified the utter hypocrisy of the responses outlined above, given the evidence of sexual assaults at events like Oktoberfest in Bavaria, and Carnival in Cologne itself. Even the most conservative police figures of reported rapes at Oktoberfest are between two and ten per year. In 2015, 26 sexual assaults were reported at the festival, including two cases of rape. The police report for one of the assaults described how a woman was charged with grievous bodily harm and issued a four-figure fine when, in response to ‘a playful grope under her skirt’ (police description), she turned, beer glass in hand, and struck the perpetrator in the head.

There is an enormous body of scholarship and statistical evidence detailing and describing everyday sexual assault and sexualised and gendered violence in Germany – which shows there is nothing imported about sexism.

The Cologne events occurred within hours of, and possibly even simultaneously to, Merkel’s nationally broadcast New Year’s address (here with English subtitles), in which she thanked her people for the ‘warmheartedness and devotion’ they had shown refugees fleeing war and death in 2015. She thanked volunteers, military, civil servants and police, who ‘even at this moment’ (!) were contributing something ‘extraordinary’ to the project of integration and social cohesion.

Days later she lashed out viciously, saying that the ‘full force of German law’ should be mobilised in response to Cologne. Concern or sympathy for the victims was barely discernible. As one presenter on national television network ARD remarked, such statements are surely obvious, given that the ‘full force of German law’ applies in principle to every German citizen as well. Merkel has thus been shown a hypocrite: golden words of welcome in her New Year’s Eve address, followed by a searing legal double standard just a few days later.

Above all, this situation poses a strategic challenge to Merkel: given all the ‘our values’ talk, and her celebration of the ‘open door’, it is impossible for her to pursue an openly racist line with any legitimacy. Using the events in Cologne to halt refugee intake would look foolish: from the right’s perspective it would be an admission that the policy was wrong in the first place, and for the left it would indicate a failure to uphold the Geneva Convention, or defend a policy that many believe is Merkel’s single positive contribution during her entire Chancellorship. This has left the government (including its Social Democrat partners) scrambling for a response that is strong-armed enough to placate the hardened anti-immigration conservatives in Merkel’s own CDU/CSU, but which does not look like a blanket racial profiling of 1.1 million new Germans.

Two short paragraphs from Germany’s international broadcaster Deutsche Welle neatly summarise the double message coming from Berlin:

[Germany’s Justice Minister, Heiko] Maas added that ‘cultural background justifies or excuses nothing. … For us, men and women have equal rights in all matters. Everyone who lives here must accept that.’

In the coming days, Maas’ Social Democrats (SPD) are expected to join coalition partners, Chancellor Angela Merkel’s (CDU) in presenting new laws to the Bundestag that would expedite the deportation of asylum seekers and migrants who commit crimes. The administration has received a hefty amount of criticism for ill-preparedness when dealing with the open-door policy it has adopted towards Europe’s migrant crisis.

Article 53 of the Residency Law, which states that asylum applications will not be affected or influenced in any way by convictions carrying sentences of less than 3 years’ prison, is now being opportunistically described as a legal loophole.

Merkel’s Interior Minister, Thomas de Maizière, has proposed strengthening government powers to deport non-Germans by expanding the list of criminal convictions forming grounds for deportation to include petty crime and lower-level sentencing. The fallout is also spilling into neighbouring countries. Members of both the Dutch and Slovakian governments have expressed their interest in restricting specifically Muslim refugees from entering their countries, citing Cologne as their reason. The truth is that they did not need another reason – Merkel has been under consistent attack from the far right of her own coalition party for her open-door policy, and the right-wing populist Pegida street movement had some successful mobilisations long before the events of New Year’s Eve. But the popular understanding of the Cologne events as evidence of a uniquely Muslim threat to European women certainly makes pushing these policies much easier.

Among feminists, liberals and the left, responses have been varied. A chorus of commentators have been quick to press the need to fight both sexism and racism at the same time, and banners at a demonstration in Cologne just days after news of the assaults emerged bore slogans to that effect. A resolution passed on Tuesday by the parliamentary caucus of the left party, Die Linke, strongly opposes moves by the Merkel government to toughen asylum policy and compromise the rule of law. It also draws critical attention to the German military interventions and weapons exports to the Middle East that have contributed to the creation of the asylum and refugee influx.

Some commentators from the liberal left, though, have called for more police. But if 500 police officers did nothing to help victims on New Year’s Eve, a continuing increased presence is hardly going to help. Other responses have revealed the truly bizarre effect when surveillance logic is given a ‘feminist’ spin: one call distributed by Australian feminist group Destroy the Joint was for the introduction of curfews! Which is little different to Scott Morrison’s suggestion of special behavioural protocols for refugees and asylum seekers beyond the existing legal framework.

A good list of solutions to the issue of sexual assault and harassment has been put together by the #ausnahmslos campaign, launched as a successor to the #aufschrei hashtag of a few years ago. But the list is incomplete. There are no demands directed at alleviating the socioeconomic effects of capitalism that enable and perpetuate gender inequality and sexism. Without directly tackling this aspect – that is, pay inequality, legal inequality and employment inequality, all of which lead to lack of financial and legal independence and thus greater susceptibility to coercion, as well as propping up the idea that women have less social value – little will change for women in Germany, or anywhere else.

In terms of the continuing fallout from Cologne, one thing is clear: in the German government’s attempts to maintain control over its future course, and as pressure from an increasingly confident right-wing grows, the prize role of victim will continue to be shunted onto society’s oppressed – women, refugees and asylum seekers, the socially excluded and disadvantaged. The only effective response can be to oppose the trend and increase collective solidarity.
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Re: Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

Postby semper occultus » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:07 pm

MacCruiskeen » 12 Jan 2016 18:05 wrote:You are transparently evasive, semper occultus. Always hidden, indeed, except when you think it's safe to come out.


.....I'd suggest you reel your neck in a bit.....I post here alot more than you do......and I quoted my source concerning rape & assault but your screen was probably too drenched in spittle by then to be able to read it...

...and for the record I'm even more disgusted by FGM & honour killings perpertrated against - gasp - non-white women so please go and DO one and don't rush back ....

FGM Trial: Why Has No-One Ever Been Convicted In Britain, Despite The Practice Being Illegal For 30 Years?

....a staggering 141 British girls have been murdered by their own family in so-called 'honour' violence since her death in 2003. That's 12 girls a year killed for not getting married....


It is not only degenerate journalists who are purveying this racist filth.


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Re: Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:55 pm

semper occultus » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:07 am wrote:
MacCruiskeen » 12 Jan 2016 18:05 wrote:You are transparently evasive, semper occultus. Always hidden, indeed, except when you think it's safe to come out.


.....I'd suggest you reel your neck in a bit.....I post here alot more than you do.....


How pathetic.

Anyway, for the record (and only because you insisted on bringing it up, like sick), it is another of your lies:

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Y'know, you really should take a little more care with that habitual mendacity of yours. If you're going to insist on lying, try and do it more skilfully, otherwise you'll look not just like the liar you are, but like a very silly liar to boot. QED.

.and I quoted my source concerning rape & assault but your screen was probably too drenched in spittle by then to be able to read it...


I read it. What you did was to conflate -- deliberately, intentionally, slimily, stupidly -- a two-year-old report on sexual violence in Egypt with whatever happened in Cologne on NYE. You are on the same team as the shabby little creep who posted that video to YouTube (showing an incident in Tahrir Square in 2013) and pretended it had been filmed in Cologne this New Year. That's your style, and that's your level. As is now becoming ever clearer, you lie shamelessly and knowingly whenever it suits you; and since you lie habitually, it is fair to call you a liar.

your screen was probably too drenched in spittle


What wit. What originality. ('Ist das von Ihnen?' - B. Brecht) Do you give lessons? You think it is bad style to object angrily to your repeated and knowing dissemination of shabby but deeply dangerous lies that you know perfectly well to be lies.

...and for the record I'm even more disgusted by FGM & honour killings perpertrated against - gasp - non-white women so please go and DO one and don't rush back ....


"for the record" -- did anyone ask? I certainly didn't, nor is it of any relevance to the topic of this thread. Anyway, what a hero you are, sticking your neck out like that! As if I were in favour of FGM, or as if anything I had ever said would justify you thinking I was in favour of it. Why not start a thread decrying FGM, while I rival your daring by starting one entitled, say, "Against Torture" or "Against Rape"? We can see who gets nominated for the Nobel Prize first.



Start another thread about it. Because it has no relevance whatsoever to what happened in Cologne on NYE, unless you happen to be a stupid shitstirring racist who is happy to conflate Anything Bad About Some Muslims with the actual topic at issue. .

It is not only degenerate journalists who are purveying this racist filth.


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I saw what you did there, Mr Occultus, and so did everyone else. It is absolutely typical of you. (QED, again again.) At the end of a post quoting me and replying to me, you tacked on a quote from someone else entirely without attributing the source (wsws) -- as if I were the one who had written it or even posted it. In fact I neither wrote it nor posted it, as you very well know, and as anyone following this thread also knows. But you're happy to create that impression for any casual visitor to this thread who is not paying close attention. That, yet again, o always-hidden one, is why I call you a liar.

You're not just any old liar, though. You are the kind of liar who spreads deeply dangerous racist lies about "mass rape" in Cologne and who is then -- QED -- too cowardly and too dishonest to acknowledge that no mass rape too place, even though you now know perfectly well that it didn't.
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Re: Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:22 pm

By the way, semper occultus, I can't remember ever having had any kind of angry exchange with you ever, before now. But the way you have behaved in this thread absolutely demands an angry response. For the record, I have always hated liars and always been angered by lies, at least when they are serious lies and most especially when they are murderous ones.

That is all.
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Re: Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:58 pm

MacCruiskeen » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:22 pm wrote:By the way, semper occultus, I can't remember ever having had any kind of angry exchange with you ever, before now. But the way you have behaved in this thread absolutely demands an angry response. For the record, I have always hated liars and always been angered by lies, at least when they are serious lies and most especially when they are murderous ones.

That is all.


Yeah, noted.

I'm going to light a candle at the local Irish Catholic so that you can get offended more concisely in the future.

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Re: Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:03 pm

You are a wonderful moderator.
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Re: Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:12 pm

Summary, for Sounder, Fixx, JackRiddler, and anyone else who is actually interested in the facts rather than just looking for porn:

1. The number of criminal complaints has so far risen to about 650, about half of them complaints of sexual harrassment.(It's not yet clear to me whether that figure applies to the whole city or just to the station area.)

2. Police are now offering a reward of 10,000 euros for any information leading to an arrest.

3. It's becoming increasingly clear that the Cologne police knew that trouble was to be expected on NYE -- the station&cathedral area was a hotspot for petty crime, esp. pickpocketing, and a big drunk crowd was inevitably going to be there that night. But not only did the police do little or nothing to prepare for it; they 1) turned down an offer of reinforcements, who were on standby elsewhere in the state of NRW; 2) then actually removed (from the area around the station) about half of the meagre forces they had already placed there -- and this after they had already received complaints of theft and harrassment, and just before the very worst of the trouble started.

4. It's not yet clear who gave the cops on the ground those orders.

5. It's also not yet clear why those orders were given. In the meantime, speculation is permitted and in fact unavoidable. (The word "stand-down" comes to mind.)

6. Two days ago, NRW Interior Minister Ralf Jäger forced Cologne police chief Albers to resign/take early retirement.

7. In a 27-page report issued yesterday, Jäger again heavily criticised the police response; but he himself bears ultimate responsibilty for the state of the Cologne police force and for its performance.

8. Jäger himself today faced a parliamentary commission of inquiry (Innenaussschuss) in the Bundestag. He may well not survive this politically.

9. A new unified ID system is to be introduced for refugees and for those applying for refuge.

- In other news: 1) No mass rape took place. 2) Angel Merkel is not a leftist.
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Re: Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:35 pm

In German: Sahra Wagenknecht makes a typically sane speech - and is rewarded :ohno: with an outbreak of indignant handwaving from her own politically incompetent party (Die Linke):

Aufstand in der Linken gegen Sahra Wagenknecht

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/ ... necht.html


A good short commentary by Andreas Hauss:

http://www.medienanalyse-international.de/index1.html
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Re: Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

Postby Project Willow » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:56 pm

Heaven Swan » 09 Jan 2016 19:24 wrote:Interesting perspective from an exited woman in London

http://rebeccamott.net/2016/01/08/consequences/
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That Germany has made itself the brothel of Europe – that is it ok to rape, mentally abuse, torture and even murder women and girls as long you pay for it.
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Sexual violence will be the norm as long the sex trade is legal and part of German culture.


Thanks for that. Sexual violence is currently and actively being codified as the norm in more and more states via law, as "liberals" and "liberal feminists" push for "sex worker" rights through institutions like Amnesty International (shame on them.)

Parel, I am aware of your views on the matter, which is why I think it might be productive to create a new thread on prostitution where we can engage in extended debate. The safety and empowerment of women forms the heart (at least rhetorically) of opposing views on this topic among women who call themselves feminists. Maybe we can find some common ground.

As to the above quoted post, I cannot imagine how Germany's policy on prostitution has not had an inevitable effect on male attitudes towards women in that country. I also believe that men immigrating from other cultures bring with them different beliefs and behaviors. I don't think it is in any way racist to say so. Indeed, if the feminist proposal that gender is a social construct and expressions of male violence are subject to cultural conditioning, it is folly to disregard the issue (rates of FGM in Western immigrant populations). The problem is that people with various political agendas will exploit these analyses for their own goals. Surely no one on this board should come to ad hominen blows over the issue. There's certainly nothing new about the abuse of women being used as ping pong ball in political debate. Indeed, what other purpose could such reports ever serve? :mad2
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Re: Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:30 am

Fuck this is out of control and just keeps getting darker. The undercurrents of popular reaction being unleashed into straight-up popular fascism on many many fronts at once.

Look at this, but before you do, you know, trigger alert:

Fake photos flood Internet after sexual assaults in Germany
http://observers.france24.com/en/201601 ... 2016-01-13

Poorly phrased headline, the photos aren't fake, they are of real sexual assaults that are being falsely attributed as the acts of Muslim migrants in Germany or elsewhere in Europe.
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Re: Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:44 am

^^This is why the "mass rape" lie appearing here (and even gaining credence here) angered me so much.

YouTube is full of this shit. Another lying -- knowingly lying -- video went up last week that purports to show what happened in "Colonge Germany" (sic) on NYE, and it already has 55,000 views. It shows distressed women being groped in a crowd, and it was filmed, apparently, in Athens in 2002. (I have no idea exactly what is happening there; the commentary is in Greek). I won't link to it, Jack, because there's more than enough poison in this thread already. But the film is easy enough to find, and you have the advantage of knowing the language.
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Re: Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:38 am

Genauso verhält es sich im Hauptbahnhof, etwa 80 Videokameras gibt es dort. Die Anlagen sollen in Kürze erneuert werden. Bundesweit gibt es 4800 Kameras in 640 Bahnhöfen. Wenn innerhalb von 48 Stunden keine Strafanzeige erstattet wird, werden die Daten gelöscht.

http://www.rundschau-online.de/koeln/80 ... 63662.html


So there are around 80 video surveillance cameras installed in Cologne Central Station alone, and more on the square between station and cathedral. And criminal complaints were filed within 48 hours, so those films have not been deleted.

The police have offered 10,000 euros reward for any info leading to the identification of culprits. So why haven't films (and stills) of the incident been released to the public?

Note that there has been a popular monthly TV programme in Germany since 1967 (Aktenzeichen xy ungelöst), in which the police appeal for the public's help in solving unsolved crimes / finding absconded criminals, etc. -- and of course if relevant photos exist, they are shown.

What is the point of all those cameras if they are practically never used to find actual criminals?
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Re: Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:53 am

^^Compare the San Bernardino "shootout". Compare the Paris "suicide bombers". Compare almost any incident in The West™ that's used to drive global hysteria, xenophobia and war.
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Re: Mass sexual assaults in Cologne

Postby Heaven Swan » Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:47 am

Project Willow wrote:
Parel, I am aware of your views on the matter, which is why I think it might be productive to create a new thread on prostitution where we can engage in extended debate. The safety and empowerment of women forms the heart (at least rhetorically) of opposing views on this topic among women who call themselves feminists. Maybe we can find some common ground.


Parel did start a separate thread on this issue: Prostitution -whose choice is it?
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