TRUMP is seriously dangerous

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Jerky » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:11 am

Hear, hear!

I whole-heartedly endorse and second this lovely-stated and educated opinion.

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Iamwhomiam » 17 Dec 2015 07:58 wrote:Yeah, I thought you'd find it amusing.

Not ISIS funny, but still...

Please note she said "Insane conspiracy theory," (proposing that no children were killed at Sandy Hook) And I agree it is insane to believe this.

Do you really think it matters to those with the power to initiate and follow though such a scenario as that which took place at Sandy Hook, whether a few kids died; that they would go to pains of staging dozens of deaths and all that goes with perpetually maintaining that storyline through crisis actors?

Why not just kill them and create true terror and save yourself the trouble of maintaining a complex false narrative?

Also, taking her words out of context loses the meaning of what's being said, Grizzly.

"There will always be someone out there cooking this stuff up and selling it to the unhinged and gullible." And that is most certainly true.

It's terrible to smear Alex Jones, backtoiam? Or Trump for thinking Alex's great?

Can't say I disagree with much of anything Maddow's written there.

I said before the end of the Republican Party is at hand; Donald is its death knell.

Maddow's not condemning all conspiracy theorists, just the insane one's pushing false narratives with utter disregard for the harm their foolish claims can cause real victims.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:07 pm

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:12 pm

Has it become a contest over who can mindfuck the most?


A Nervous George Soros Lashes Out At Donald Trump: He Wants You To Be Afraid

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 12/28/2015

It appears The Establishment has decided to bring in the big guns to dislodge The GOP's nightmare scenario as Donald Trump goes from strength to strength in the polls. Writing in an op-ed for The Guardian, billionaire puppet-master George Soros urges Americans "to resist the siren song of the likes of Donald Trump," adding that "the terrorists and demagogues want us to be scared. We mustn’t give in."

Authored by George Soros, originally posted at The Guardian,

It’s not easy to resist the threats and the hysteria that surround us, but we must do, as fear is the greatest danger to open society



Open societies are always endangered. This is especially true of America and Europe today, as a result of the terrorist attacks in Paris and elsewhere, and the way that America and Europe, particularly France, have reacted to them.

Jihadi terrorist groups such as Islamic State and al-Qaida have discovered the achilles heel of our western societies: the fear of death. Through horrific attacks and macabre videos, the publicists of Isis magnify this fear, leading otherwise sensible people in hitherto open societies to abandon their reason.



Scientists have discovered that emotion is an essential component of human reasoning. That discovery explains why jihadi terrorism poses such a potent threat to our societies: the fear of death leads us and our leaders to think – and then behave – irrationally.



Science merely confirms what experience has long shown: when we are afraid for our lives, emotions take hold of our thoughts and actions, and we find it difficult to make rational judgments. Fear activates an older, more primitive part of the brain than that which formulates and sustains the abstract values and principles of open society.



The open society is thus always at risk from the threat posed by our response to fear. A generation that has inherited an open society from its parents will not understand what is required to maintain it until it has been tested and learns to keep fear from corrupting reason. Jihadi terrorism is only the latest example. The fear of nuclear war tested the last generation, and the fear of communism and fascism tested my generation.



The jihadi terrorists’ ultimate goal is to convince Muslim youth worldwide that there is no alternative to terrorism. And terrorist attacks are the way to achieve that goal, because the fear of death will awaken and magnify the latent anti-Muslim sentiments in Europe and America, inducing the non-Muslim population to treat all Muslims as potential attackers.



And that is exactly what is happening. The hysterical anti-Muslim reaction to terrorism is generating fear and resentment among Muslims living in Europe and America. The older generation reacts with fear, the younger one with resentment; the result is a breeding ground for potential terrorists. This is a mutually reinforcing, reflexive process.



How can it be stopped and reversed? Abandoning the values and principles underlying open societies and giving in to an anti-Muslim impulse dictated by fear certainly is not the answer, though it may be difficult to resist the temptation. I experienced this personally when I watched the last Republican presidential debate; I could stop myself only by remembering that it must be irrational to follow the wishes of your enemies.



To remove the danger posed by jihadi terrorism, abstract arguments are not enough; we need a strategy for defeating it. The challenge is underscored by the fact that the jihadi phenomenon has been with us for more than a generation. Indeed, gaining a proper understanding of it may be impossible. But the attempt must be made.



Consider the Syrian conflict, which is the root cause of the migration problem that is posing an existential threat to the European Union as we know it. If it was resolved, the world would be in better shape. It is important to recognise that Isis is operating from a position of weakness. While it is spreading fear in the world, its hold on its home ground is weakening. The United Nations security council has unanimously adopted a resolution against it, and the leaders of Isis are aware that their days in Iraq and Syria are numbered.



Of course, the outlook for Syria remains highly uncertain, and the conflict there cannot be understood or tackled in isolation. But one idea shines through crystal clear: it is an egregious mistake to do what the terrorists want us to do. That is why, as 2016 gets underway, we must reaffirm our commitment to the principles of open society and resist the siren song of the likes of Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, however hard that may be.

We eagerly await The Donald's tweeted retort, which will surely propel him even higher in the GOP primary rankings.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:17 pm

stillrobertpaulsen » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:12 pm wrote:Has it become a contest over who can mindfuck the most?


What else could it be?

What other strategy is available?

Future cultural engineering projects will only be about accelerating the virulence of the same template every actor is currently working from on the 2016 horizon. "FUD" used to be a big concept, a serious project, now it's a single interchangeable round of ammunition, a commodity product that can be fired thousands of times per hour. Because there's always gonna be more clips coming down the supply line.

This is the legacy of the Cold War. After decades of scorched-earth, whole-Weltanschauung bipolar propaganda war being beamed globally, this kind of hit-and-run media terrorism is the only approach left with any ROI. Growth Hacking, they used to call it out West -- and probably still do -- because the foundations of most human groups and subcultures is all irrational bullshit anyway. The point isn't what kind of concrete you use to pour your power base, it's how fast (and how big) you can do it.

When the whole edifice of "news" is owned assets, it's a waste of time and effort -- imposed overhead -- to play inside that game. I like LaRouche (as a study more than a person, mind) because he got that right away. Your narrative can't be some quibbling Chomsky-ass "Well, Actually" high school debate moderated by your enemy.

You need to push the stakes beyond belief and force your followers outside the current overton window completely. That way they can only reason with each other.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:07 am

Al-Shabaab Releases Recruitment Video Featuring Donald Trump

The militant group Al-Shabaab -- Al Qaeda's affiliate in Somalia -- has released a recruitment video featuring GOP presidential frontrunner Donald Trump.

The more-than 51-minute propaganda video comes on the heels of a war of words between Trump and Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton over her suggestion that the real estate mogul's controversial remarks about Muslims would be used to recruit jihadis.

The video includes a clip of Trump calling for a "shutdown" of Muslims entering the United States.

"Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the [bleep] is going on," Trump says in the clip. The group bleeps out Trump's use of the word "hell."

Hillary Clinton Says Trump Is 'Becoming ISIS's Best Recruiter'
Trump Calls Clinton a 'Liar' Over Video Claim
'Hell No' Hillary Clinton Won't Apologize to Trump Over ISIS Recruitment Claims, Spokesman Says
Immediately preceding the message is a statement from Anwar al-Awlaki, the American terror leader who was killed in a drone strike in 2011.

Awlaki discusses America's history of race relations and his predictions for the future.

Clinton sparked a feud with Trump when she suggested during a debate hosted by ABC News that Trump was being used to recruit new jihadists.

“He is becoming ISIS's best recruiter. They are going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists," Clinton said during the Democratic debate on Dec. 19.

Clinton provided no specific evidence of the claim being true.

Trump went on the offensive afterwards, saying Clinton fabricated the claim.

"Knowing the Clintons and knowing Hillary, she made it up," Trump said on ABC's "This Week" on Dec. 20.

Clinton's camp clarified that she wasn't referring to a specific video but rather Trump's remarks being used on social media for the purposes of recruitment.

"She’s not referring to a specific video, but he is being used in social media by ISIS as propaganda,” Clinton Communications Director Jen Palmieri said.

The situation got uglier as the days went on, with Trump branding the former Secretary of State a "liar."

"She's a liar!" Trump told a crowd in Grand Rapids, Michigan on Dec. 22. He also called her "crooked" and "not a president." Clinton's team said "hell no" she won't apologize for her remarks.

He also used a crude term to refer to how Clinton fared in the 2008 election and called her taking a bathroom break during the debate "disgusting." Trump later said that the term he used was not vulgar.

"We are not responding to Trump but everyone who understands the humiliation this degrading language inflicts on all women should,” Palmieri tweeted on Dec. 22 in response.

Clinton and Trump's camps did not immediately respond to requests for comment about the Al-Shabaab video.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:13 am

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:42 am

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Responsible: Stan Pate (left) is the man responsible for having five planes skywrite messages about Donald Trump (right) in the skies over the Rose Parade Friday.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3w69Qvy2V
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby kool maudit » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:50 am

The Soros piece contains a funny logic in so far as it links the use of "older, more primitive" brain-components – the amygdala – to a lack of political or cultural sophistication.

Is this a fully solidified bit of doctrine or a strange reach? Is it better to favour body parts that developed more recently, such as the fingers, over those with longer histories, such as the lungs?

I have seen the "evolve" bumper stickers and such but had not expected it to be quite so literal at its core. It makes sense, though. A chronological aristocracy of flesh. It's 2016.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Nordic » Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:41 pm

I sure wish people would get so publicly upset over the fascists who are actually in power, who bomb hospitals and start wars and create terrorist proxy armies to slaughter civilians.

Trump has no power. There are people in power who are actively engaged in terrible crimes. Nobody sky writes about them.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby DrEvil » Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:45 pm

Trump's reply:

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:04 am

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:30 pm

Here's Why Joe Lieberman, Jon Huntsman Have Labeled Donald Trump A Bipartisan 'Problem-Solver'

by Ben Geier January 11, 2016, 3:43 PM EST

http://fortune.com/2016/01/11/heres-why ... er_FORTUNE


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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby norton ash » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:12 pm

Meet the Freedom Girls. I'd say Trump has gone full North Korean, although these children would be tortured in NK for fucking up the choreography so badly. (Or, "That's the worst choreography I've seen since they shot Lee Oswald.")
The lyrics are full-on paranoid fascist.

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Luther Blissett » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:26 am

norton ash » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:12 pm wrote:Meet the Freedom Girls. I'd say Trump has gone full North Korean, although these children would be tortured in NK for fucking up the choreography so badly. (Or, "That's the worst choreography I've seen since they shot Lee Oswald.")
The lyrics are full-on paranoid fascist.



Exactly. I originally thought Kim Jong-un collaborated with Tim and Eric to make this.

Though, really, the DRPK regime is looking at this and laughing at how pathetic our pageantry is.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:34 am

norton ash » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:12 pm wrote:Meet the Freedom Girls. I'd say Trump has gone full North Korean, although these children would be tortured in NK for fucking up the choreography so badly. (Or, "That's the worst choreography I've seen since they shot Lee Oswald.")
The lyrics are full-on paranoid fascist.



I saw that yesterday and found the use of three dancers/singers to be discordant with the podium in the middle. Like it was imbalanced on purpose. Why wouldn't you roll with at least four to balance it out? Just a niggling point. However I will say the day won't come soon enough where I don't have to hear or see that fucker again. Most repulsive prominent American ever.
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