Please Don’t Run, Hillary

[Wombaticus Rex]

I have come to the conclusion that there hasn't been an honestly counted election in a very long time. Not at the national level. And certainly not yet this century. And I don't see that changing.

It seems like nothing more than a spectator sport.

But ok call me cynical. Or bad at math.

Well, wish I could, but aye, that's a fair point.

Successful electronic manipulation on incentivizes further manipulation. If there's some kind of -- formal or informal -- Memorandum of Understanding between DNC and GOP, then there's really no vector to catch them doing it anymore.

And people far better at math than me have been making that case.

[Iamwhomiam]

Fraud has always existed in some form or another. And fraudulent vote tabulation has existed since voting was thought up as a neat psy-op to imbue voters with the false impression they and their opinions mattered. Some things never change (anything but their cloaks.)

[Elvis]

Fraud has always existed in some form or another. And fraudulent vote tabulation has existed since voting was thought up as a neat psy-op to imbue voters with the false impression they and their opinions mattered. Some things never change (anything but their cloaks.)

But vote fraud has never been so easy, and voters have never been so trusting.

[Novem5er]

Watching the Democrat debate tonight and Hilary is in full attack mode. Everything she says is in full support of Obama (very pro-Obama crowd with the Black Caucus in SC), and is hitting Sanders as being anti-Obama over and over again. She has a supportive crowd, but I think nationally she's looking desperate.

[seemslikeadream]

[brainpanhandler]

Fraud has always existed in some form or another. And fraudulent vote tabulation has existed since voting was thought up as a neat psy-op to imbue voters with the false impression they and their opinions mattered. Some things never change (anything but their cloaks.)

voters have never been so trusting.

I doubt that's true.

[Iamwhomiam]

Fraud has always existed in some form or another. And fraudulent vote tabulation has existed since voting was thought up as a neat psy-op to imbue voters with the false impression they and their opinions mattered. Some things never change (anything but their cloaks.)

But vote fraud has never been so easy, and voters have never been so trusting.

Well, I'd agree with the first part, but I could not be sure that was ever true, even now. Part of that 'some things never change' bit causes me to tend to believe the challenges to maintaining such a conspiracy, and it must always be a secreted conspiracy involving more than one, have remained relatively equal throughout time.

Voters today seem to me to be less trusting of candidates than ever. But still, they vote. I do.

I also played powerball.

[RocketMan]

The Guardian once again catapults the propaganda. It is really shameless how they simultaneously try to co-opt Sanders's at least somewhat genuine populist credentials and smear him as an impractical grump. Check out the photo choices.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... owa-caucus

On the eve of the Iowa caucuses, eight years after the crushing disappointment of her defeat by Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton made her final pitch to a gymnasium packed with roughly 2,600 people.

The crowd was not just one of the largest of her campaign. It also rivaled in its enthusiasm scenes that have become synonymous with rallies held by her opponent, Bernie Sanders.

On Sunday night, Clinton delivered a resounding speech. Accompanied by her husband Bill and daughter Chelsea, the former secretary of state fashioned herself as a pragmatic progressive with a history of accomplishment to match her soaring rhetoric.

“I hope you will caucus for me. I hope you will fight for me,” she implored. “I will fight for you.”

The same night in Des Moines, around 1,700 people attended Sanders’ Sunday night rally. A crowd as large as 5,000 saw him joined by indie band Vampire Weekend at the University of Iowa on Saturday.

Hours before Clinton’s final rally, hundreds formed a line that wrapped around an entire neighborhood. They eventually packed a high school gymnasium, bustling with excitement echoed through frequent chants of “Hillary! Hillary!” and “I believe she will win.”

The positive mood has traveled with Clinton in her final stretch across Iowa, the state that on Monday begins the first nominating contest of the 2016 race. Although Clinton remains locked in a competitive battle with Sanders, she holds a slight advantage: 45% to 42% in Saturday’s final Des Moines Register poll.

In combating Sanders and his grassroots movement, Clinton has focused her message on the need to build upon and expand the legacies of the last two Democratic presidents: her husband and Barack Obama. Introducing her, Bill Clinton struck similar themes.

Makes me want to vomit.

[slimmouse]

The Guardian once again catapults the propaganda. It is really shameless how they simultaneously try to co-opt Sanders's at least somewhat genuine populist credentials and smear him as an impractical grump. Check out the photo choices.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... owa-caucus

On the eve of the Iowa caucuses, eight years after the crushing disappointment of her defeat by Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton made her final pitch to a gymnasium packed with roughly 2,600 people.

The crowd was not just one of the largest of her campaign. It also rivaled in its enthusiasm scenes that have become synonymous with rallies held by her opponent, Bernie Sanders.

On Sunday night, Clinton delivered a resounding speech. Accompanied by her husband Bill and daughter Chelsea, the former secretary of state fashioned herself as a pragmatic progressive with a history of accomplishment to match her soaring rhetoric.

“I hope you will caucus for me. I hope you will fight for me,” she implored. “I will fight for you.”

The same night in Des Moines, around 1,700 people attended Sanders’ Sunday night rally. A crowd as large as 5,000 saw him joined by indie band Vampire Weekend at the University of Iowa on Saturday.

Hours before Clinton’s final rally, hundreds formed a line that wrapped around an entire neighborhood. They eventually packed a high school gymnasium, bustling with excitement echoed through frequent chants of “Hillary! Hillary!” and “I believe she will win.”

The positive mood has traveled with Clinton in her final stretch across Iowa, the state that on Monday begins the first nominating contest of the 2016 race. Although Clinton remains locked in a competitive battle with Sanders, she holds a slight advantage: 45% to 42% in Saturday’s final Des Moines Register poll.

In combating Sanders and his grassroots movement, Clinton has focused her message on the need to build upon and expand the legacies of the last two Democratic presidents: her husband and Barack Obama. Introducing her, Bill Clinton struck similar themes.

Makes me want to vomit.

Whats that you say? Coming from the Guardian. The very bastion of the left.

How very dare you!

[stillrobertpaulsen]

I'm feeling the nausea myself. (Feel The Nausea - there's an accurate slogan for her campaign) Hillary cannot be beat this time - the machinery she has built has a grind of Nixonian proportions. That's really who she reminds me of: her domestic policy will be pragmatic, Keynesian, clean environment - foreign policy will have clever triangulation and a shitload of bombs being dropped - but she will surround herself with so many corrupt motherfuckers with whom so much secret shit will be conducted that it will be extremely difficult for her to avoid scandal - just like Nixon. So, yeah, the next four years I'll be on pins and needles looking for when not if the shit hits the fan.

[overcoming hope]

Clinton voter fraud in Polk County, Iowa Caucus

Caucus chair and Clinton precinct captain do not conduct actual count of Clinton supporters and deliberately mislead caucus

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4578575/c ... owa-caucus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNz-dtnQ1Ys

[kool maudit]

I don't understand why it remains socially OK, more or less, to say things like "I support Hillary Clinton".

[Luther Blissett]

Clinton voter fraud in Polk County, Iowa Caucus

Caucus chair and Clinton precinct captain do not conduct actual count of Clinton supporters and deliberately mislead caucus

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4578575/c ... owa-caucus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNz-dtnQ1Ys

You beat me to it. This is instructive.

[Luther Blissett]

I don't understand why it remains socially OK, more or less, to say things like "I support Hillary Clinton".

I almost started spreading this image around but then I had to repeat this mantra to myself:

Don't want to make it look like I believe we have any say.

[Nordic]

Six caucuses were decided by a coin toss.

Hillary won all six coin tosses.