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lunarmoth » Mon May 16, 2016 1:08 pm wrote:Has anyone read the latest Miles Mathis piece, GAME OF FAKES, which purports to expose David Bowie (and Prince), and suggests Bowie's early lyrics were ghostwritten by Leonard Cohen? Mathis is his usual flighty, self-aggrandizing self but a couple of things did jump out at me:
(1) without crediting either Jasun Horsley or RI or myself, Mathis is now referring to Cohen as an 'intelligence' operative. I'm tempted to mention that this is a rumour, and I'm the principal source. I think there's plenty of evidence for it, but no one has made an air-tight case so far, yet it seems to be making its way into the public arena via the back door.
(2) Mathis does make an interesting statement about the world of contemporary poetry and I agree with what he says about journals being "filled with garbage poetry, while the real poets were hired by Intelligence. Rhyming and meter and big subject matter were disallowed in the journals" This is actually true. Back in the late sixties when Cohen was a well-known poet in Canada, a new gang arrived on the scene and led a campaign to destroy "theme" in poetry. This aggressive (and in retrospect, well organized) new movement encouraged trivial experimentation and while its practitioners swarmed onto campuses and built networks and careers, Cohen publicly wandered off into "intelligence work."
But Mathis doesn't really "know" this - he's just riffing on an idea he probably found right here. In fact, a while back in his piece attacking Dylan as a "fake", he claimed Cohen was the Real Thing as well as the modest genius who secretly penned the lyrics to Dylan's "Shelter from the Storm."
Although it's possible, it's also possible that Dylan and Bowie imitated Cohen. It's also ironic that to be perceived as genuine by Miles Mathis, you have to be an operative.
lunarmoth wrote:Who bolded that, I wonder? it was not I. But if you'd like to reopen this discussion, go ahead.
It's a "rumour" as far as the publishing world is concerned. That doesn't make it 'false' - just "unproven" or "controversial". No more unproven, however, than many other theories floating around out there -- and in time you will see the proof as the truth about intelligence involvement in pop culture permeates our understanding.
I look forward to seeing what Mathis will make of it, brekin, since he has such high regard for Cohen. And so do I, as we all continue to mature into grownups and slowly let go of our need for daddies and Superheros.
Beware the internet grapevine and rumour mill.
lunarmoth » Tue May 17, 2016 3:15 pm wrote:Thanks for that bold response. I'll try that little trick next time.
To clarify: In this new article, GAME OF FAKES, Mathis is repeating information that he very likely took from Jasun Horsley, since a few months ago Mathis was contrasting Cohen ("the real thing") to Dylan ("the fake"). And the original source (the writer of the memoir-in-progress) is me, moi, aka our lady of solitude.
Mathis seems to accept the 'operative' label but doesn't credit the source. This is equivalent to repeating a 'rumour' -- because for whatever reason, Mathis chooses not to attribute it to a source.
'Rumors of a massacre' have often resulted in discovery of real bodies. Rumors are not 'lies' -- just uninvestigated facts. My memoir is not based on 'rumors' but personal experiences and observations woven into a narrative or 'long chain of sorrow'. Pattern recognition is what drives narrative and readers are welcome to read patterns into a narrative.
However if you extract a conclusion from it (like "Leonard Cohen worked for intelligence") without attributing it to a source, you're spreading a rumor. And this is what Mathis is doing, much of the time. I'm just pointing out that out.
I haven't come out and said "Leonard Cohen is an operative" -- guruilla came up with that bold title. I have brought up facts and examples of things he has done that strongly suggest it. These are mainly matters of public record, and some are from personal experiences and memories. guruilla added a ? to signify that this is a discussion, not an accusation.
I guess I wonder why Mathis seems so willing to embrace this statement as a fact. Probably because it supports his view that just about everyone, including Elvis, is an agent.
Better an agent than a 'fake'.
Agent Orange Cooper wrote:I thought the Bowie/Prince article was pretty terrible, but his recent piece on Tiger Woods was solid.
Link here: http://mileswmathis.com/tiger.pdf
We are told he retired from the military in 1974, but he was only 42. Even that date is a clue, since 74 is 47 reversed. 1947
was year one of the CIA, and the spooks like to use the number 74 as a marker as well.
Tiger's mother is also a question mark, with her genealogy being scrubbed. One of her parents was
half-Dutch, and her father Vit Punsawad owned both a tin mine and a fleet of busses in Bangkok* . So
it was probably he who was half-Dutch. Since he was apparently very wealthy and an Industrialist, we
have to ask if he might have been Jewish.
Also suspicious are Tiger's early endorsement deals. Upon joining the tour—and before entering much
less winning a single tournament—Tiger already had a $40 million deal with Nike and a $20 million
deal with Titleist. It is admitted that these were the largest endorsement contracts in the history of
golf, and among the largest in the history of sports, for an athlete with no professional history.
We have seen that project Tiger Woods started in 1974,when Earl allegedly retired from Intelligence. Earl died at age 74 in 2006. 2 + 6 = 8, the favorite
number of Intel. He died on May 3. 5 + 3 = 8. In 1995, he predicted Tiger would win 14 majors.
How did he know that? How many majors has Tiger won as of 2016? Fourteen.
So why was Elin chosen? Hold onto your hat. It may be because she is a twin. She has a twin sister,
Josephin. When the Parneviks brought Elin to the US to be their nanny, they brought Josephin as well.
We have seen in many previous papers that Intel loves twins.
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