Soros Open Society + "Anti-fascists" = Globalist propaganda

[seemslikeadream]

oh HE can post shit about a friend of mine and I'm supposed to chill...tell him to chill

and now that I've said my peace I will chill

peace ...piece...whatever

[82_28]

I was about to say what Wombat said not noticing he'd already said it since we turned to another page. Yeah, just chill. No harm no foul.

[seemslikeadream]

conniption is a great contributor to RI ....period....end of story







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[American Dream]

John Judge famously wrote about "Good Americans". There are also "Good Canadians":




More MSM Focus on Far Right in Canada and Reaction to ARC Article

http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.com/2 ... anada.html

[seemslikeadream]

still munching on those delicious nasty Nuland cookies AD?

Yeah, conniption has a nasty habit of posting Russian State propaganda here and the Russian State is all about coopting neo-fascists and other such racialist/nationalist types.

It never seems to occur to the supporters of the Anti-Imperialism of Fools that they could instead be critical of all competing power blocs and can align themselves with better principles.

U.S Control Over Crimea - the Aim of the Coup in Kiev

Translated by Ollie Richardson for Fort Russ
4th February, 2016

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*Note: the original article was originally published (in Russian) in 2014*



"The coup d'état in Kiev in February of this year had a specific goal: to neutralize the Russian black sea fleet based in Sevastopol, and replace it with the U.S. fleet", said Maurizio Blondet, in a sensational article published on the website http://www.effedieffe.com on 29.05.2014:

"On 22nd February, the day when Yanukovych was deprived of power, the American group hastily entered the Black sea through the Bosporus Strait. This fleet was to take the place of the Russian black sea fleet based in Crimea.

The degree of threat to the vital interests of Moscow clarifies to us why Putin was quick to take Crimea and declare the Peninsula to the Russians. He had irrefutable evidence that the coup in Kiev in February of this year had a specific goal: to neutralize the Russian black sea fleet based in Sevastopol, and replace it with U.S Navy.

On 18th February this year, the Ukrainian Parliament was raided by armed activists of the Svoboda party and Right Sector. On February 22nd, President Yanukovych was forced to leave Kiev, the Pro-Western authorities took power. At the same time, the head of the secret services of Ukraine (SBU) had been appointed - Valentyn Nalyvaichenko. Who is this? An American citizen.



Of course, "accidentally", on February 13th, one of the four American marine groups led by the aircraft carrier George Bush (CSG-2) left the naval base in Norfolk and was sent to the Aegean sea. George Bush is 102 thousand tons, with 90 aircraft and helicopters onboard. It was accompanied by 16 warships, including the cruiser USS Philippine Sea, destroyers Truxtun and Roosevelt and three nuclear submarines.

On 22nd February, the day when Yanukovych was deprived of power, the American group hastily entered the Black sea through the Bosporus Strait. This is a direct violation of the Treaty of Montreux of 1936, allowing only warships up to 45 thousand tons to pass through the Dardanelles. But, as was reported by the Turkish magazine Hurriyet, citing a source from the Defense Ministry of Turkey, the authorities gave secret permission for the passage of the valiant American Navy. This fleet was to take the place of the Russian black sea fleet based in Crimea.

Of course, it was expected that Crimea would also "choose democracy" and will happily welcome the star-spangled fleet. However, crowds of people came to the square of Sevastopol, and after a couple of days of siege of the Parliament of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, the Prime Minister Anatolii Mohyliov was driven out, who declared his loyalty to the coup in Kiev (despite the fact that he was brought to power by Yanukovych, giving him a luxury Villa in Yalta). Sergey Aksyonov was chosen to replace Mohyliov, the leader of Pro-Russian forces.

On 6th March, the Parliament of the autonomy of Crimea refused to submit to Kiev and chose to hold a March 16th referendum on the reunification of Crimea with the Russian Motherland. It complicated the American plans.

On March 5th, the original orders sent to the aircraft carriers were canceled. New orders were given to turn from the Greek city of Piraeus to Antalya, to arrive at the Turkish base and wait there. Only destroyers USS Truxtun, USS Donald Cook and the frigate USS Taylor were sent to explore the shores of North Crimea from the 7th to 22nd March under the pretext of joint exercises with Bulgaria and Romania.

The Russian air force announced through the media that the USS Donald Cook had arrived to disrupt the action of the antennas associated with the Mission control space center of the black sea fleet and a network of military satellites ELINT, working in the electromagnetic spectrum. This sophisticated modern system allows them to receive data on U.S. Navy aircraft aboard and launch vehicles from Crimean electronic surveillance radar and navigation systems.

Russian military planes were forced to block the actions of Cook: two su-24MR across eleven visits (!) circled the American ship at the lowest possible altitude, using an onboard system to lock the frequencies of 12-18 Hz in order to neutralize the radar of the USA cruiser.

In addition, the Russian secret services were convinced of the presence onboard the American ship of six groups of commandos, each with 16 people ready to swim unnoticed underwater to reach the shore with the purpose of carrying out acts of sabotage in Crimea and of creating an atmosphere of panic among the local population. This could be via explosions on public transport during rush hour, damaging state buildings, etc. Injection of fear and terror before the referendum would lead to a decrease in the number of voters and would invalidate the results. To exclude such actions, "Russian had to have a hard preventive and impenetrable method of control."

In fact, there was information about the capture by some commandos from NATO countries of one of the sites of Crimea, as was indicated by the urgent request of the General Prosecutor of Crimea Natalia Poklonskaya to translators from the language of one of the landlocked NATO countries neighboring Ukraine. Our conclusion: Cossacks who were sent there, who were able to understand the Romanian language.

Based on the results of the referendum in Crimea (83% of the population voted, 99.7% of voters chose Russia), the American fleet, headed by the aircraft carrier George Bush, was ordered to stop their mission, and duly left the Aegean sea and went to Bahrain.

It is clear to everyone that the Russian military base in Sevastopol is essential. Confirmation of this comes from the recent modernization of the black sea fleet, enhancing its collection to 20 modern ships, including six submarines, frigate-launchers, specializing in protection and locking the opponent in an electronic field, as well as the newest class of helicopter carrier - Mistral, built in French shipyards (deal collapsed -OR). The Navy has a large group of fast reaction forces consisting of paratroopers and Marines. They are supported by the fourth air force division and air defense.

In addition, separate air cargo fleet transportation, consisting of 135 aircraft An-22, An-124, Il- 76MD and An-12, guarantees the transfer of 80 thousand soldiers of the 49th and 58th military corps. This grouping of rapid reaction forces, directly subordinate to the black sea fleet, has a common goal — protection from terrorism in the Mediterranean basin, Eastern Africa and the Middle East up to the Persian Gulf.

But even more powerful is the invisible, or nearly invisible, part of the fleet. It is the Center of space mission control, which has existed since Soviet times. Its written history lists the ships 'Salut', 'Soyuz', 'Apollo-Soyuz' and 'Lunokhod'. Today the Space center receives data from missile-radar systems such as the Voronezh-M (within 6 thousand km), established in Lekhtusi in the Leningrad region, in the city of Pionersky of the Kaliningrad region and in the city of Armavir. The centre receives information from satellites' early warning alarm KMO/K, capable of detecting the launch of missiles of any type — cruise or ballistic. Disruption of the functioning of the center (a serious obstacle to US hegemony and expansion towards Central Asia) or complete withdrawal due to its failure is one of the main goals of the Pentagon.

Based on the aforementioned, we believe that the coup in Kiev, bringing to power a "democratic" puppet government, had as its primary objective the elimination of the Space Center.

Ukraine's entry into NATO is already a secondary objective. With the help of the presidential elections and the strengthening of a "democratic" government, the Pentagon had hoped to force Putin to leave the military base in Crimea in order to replace it later with an American one. But haste cost the Americans, who consider themselves masters in these situations, as they prematurely launched a squadron of drones (unmanned aircraft) into Dnepropetrovsk for reconnaissance flights.

It was flying drones over the Crimean territory before the referendum that revealed to the Russian side, who was using an antenna for eavesdropping, the true plans of the United States".

[stefano]

"Soros and his ilk created and benefit from what Soros calls “Islamic State,”

This isn't true. At least - Soros has had nothing to do with the Syrian opposition, and Moscow (obviously deliberately) makes no effort to say who his "ilk" supposedly includes. At the same time it's very clear that the Syrian opposition receives funding and logistical and intelligence support from the UK, the US and Israel. The UK has been at the forefront of this. Anyone confused as to why Moscow's propaganda might avoid discussing Cameron's government's central role in the Syrian catastrophe might do well to read this:

Meanwhile, as of 2014 rich Russians had some £27 billion ($39 billion) invested in London, where they come to bank, shop, educate their children and sue each other. Such interests are well-represented in Conservative circles; at a pre-election fundraising ball Lubov Chernukhin, the wife of Mr Putin’s ex-finance minister, successfully bid £160,000 for a tennis match with David Cameron (in a moment of exuberance the auctioneer threw in the party chairman as a ball boy).

[stefano]

The Daily Mail reported back in November 2015 that Soros was busy telling the EU to take “at least a million” refugees every year.

One million, on a population of 740 million! Obviously aiming to dilute and adulterate the essence of whiteness, ha.

What's interesting in these discussions is to see posters who love to portray their governments as somehow the embodiment of modern fascism, in order to romanticise the heroism of their subversive posts on the internet, then turn around and loudly object to the structural aspect that is essentially the function of these governments, as far as salary and wage earners are concerned: the maintenance of the wage differential between first worlders and third worlders. What is the issue with migration? That spoiled rich-country citizens will have to compete on the labour market with ambitious wogs? Whose countries have been devastated by capital movements that have been to the material advantage of those now moaning about the threat that these guys could be coming in and destroying their cultures (i.e. fucking their girlfriends)?

You'll excuse my lack of sympathy, I hope.

[backtoiam]

joe hillhoist wrote:
Which is it? It either doesn't exist so isn't a creation of anyone or it does exist because it was created by the US and Europe?

It definitely exists. Yes it was created by the U.S., Europe, mainly Great Britain/London, and Israel.

Joe Hillhoist wrote:
And how powerful is it? Is the author suggesting its more powerful than Russia because ISIS is more capable of destroying Europe than Russia is?

Yes in my opinion with the NATO backing it has, (sic) ISIS is more powerful than the single country of Russia for the simple fact that Europe/U.S./London/ Great Britain/Israel nexus draws from the military resource pools and financial pools of multiple countries. Russia is one country and it can be surrounded.

And besides, "somebodys" has been dropping bombs and raining down terror in more countries than we can count since 911. An entire part of the world in the last 14 years got turned back to the stone age damn near it and it damn sure wasn't Putin because he only got involved recently. No, That Credit would be due to the ISIS coalition I just mentioned, along with the "color" revolutions it has set in motion. Same one...

Wow those USAians and Israelites must be incredibly powerful if their non existent proxies can do more damage than the forces or energy sanctions available to Putin.

Considering the last 14 years of financial and physical decimation and destruction wreaked up on the world in the last decade Yes, I do suppose they are incredibly powerful. Russia didn't start this, Russia is reacting for survival.

Or maybe Soros was right after all and Russia is more of a threat than ISIS after all.

I seriously doubt it. It is worth remembering that everybody knows that any mad dog could pull a nuclear trigger and that behind the scenes they play ball more than we can probably imagine....
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Yes if Russia is playing a straight game and we are being told the truth Russia has been very destructive to ISIS and Soros has been very supportive to the global ISIS agenda, he after all "conveniently" lined up to take advantage of the 'migrant' crisis. Funny how he always seems to end up in the right place at the right time when a country is getting its ass handed to it or it's currency is getting bombed.

By occupying Germany with an army of aggressive, unskilled, culturally insoluble economic migrants from Africa and elsewhere, the chess-players at the board of realpolitik are attempting to head off that natural outcome.

Yes it is called being a psychopath that hangs out with other small groups of psychopaths. You hate a race of people bad enough to literally bomb and starve them out of their homes and steal all their shit and resources for profit. You then send them into an environment you specifically cultivated to be hostile and in the process through military contractors and shell companies and charities you profit from a new source of misery. That is what I call REAL hate....

Good thing we're not allowed to point out racism here anymore or I might have to remind everyone what a racist crock of shit this festy little piece of "writing" is. Seeing as i can't its worth noting this sort of Islamophobia isn't just racist but it is loaded with forms of us against them bigotry. Sam Gerrans can get fucked.

It is not racism to point out the sick fucks that make this shit real in our daily lives. These people are real people, not nebulous labels. These are real people. They take a bath, shit, shave, eat, and sleep like everybody else, they just don't want you to realize it...

They would rather you stare at your genitals, skin color, sexual persuasion, et al... and wonder how offended you are supposed to be today by your fellow man. It keeps our eyes off the horizon so that we never see the light...

[Joe Hillshoist]

conniption is a great contributor to RI ....period....end of story







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Fair enough. I'm not attacking the messenger just the message.

That article was stupid propaganda.

Considering this title is about globalist propaganda and the article is bigoted crap and propaganda about the benefits of a pan eurasian (ie globalist) super state.

[Joe Hillshoist]

"...thread title is about globalist propaganda..."

[Sounder]

"Soros and his ilk created and benefit from what Soros calls “Islamic State,”

stefano wrote....
This isn't true. At least - Soros has had nothing to do with the Syrian opposition

Some will disagree. George and his ilk form the most stark expression of Western and White exceptionalism there is going today.

So it makes sense that this is supported by white people, right?




“If there is any doubt concerning the nefarious undertones of subversiveness in these NGO dealings, [National Endowment for Democracy] NED founder reportedly said the following in the 1990s: ‘A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA.’ What was once done at night under the cloak of ‘imperialism’ is now done during the day under the guise of ‘humanitarianism.’” ~ The Wrong Kind of Green

http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/10/28/p ... cutioners/



As Paul Larudee states in his article, Mythology, Barrel Bombs and Human Rights Watch:

“The Syrian army relies on loyal soldiers defending their country and their homes from a heavily subsidized, markedly foreign incursion, including many mercenaries paid by the Gulf monarchies and trained by the US. And the army is loyal because they know that although great sacrifices will be asked of them, they will be defending, not sacrificing, their families and loved ones. The rest of the world that supposedly cares about Syria can start by making it unnecessary for them to make such sacrifices.”

Much of the propaganda surrounding Syria and the “conflict” is indeed, mythology spun-up by western agents of influence. A mythology created and disseminated by the NGO complex working diligently on the ground in Syria and remotely in the labyrinths of power, ensures that a steady flow of misinformation continues uninterrupted, one that is custom designed to alter public perception about the situation in Syria and drive us towards supporting the identical mistakes made in Iraq and Libya.

It is no error or oversight that the media barely mention Libya these days as it is plunged deeper and deeper into anarchy, where warlords occupy the terror vacuum created by the NATO’s deceptive intervention in 2011. Perhaps if people were confronted by images of the daily horrors endured by the people of Libya these day, they would be more reticent about the passive-aggressive re-creation of that same scenario in Syria.

Suffering has been commodified by humanitarian NGO's. How much is the picture of a crushed boy worth?

[Iamwhomiam]

Russia is one country and it can be surrounded.

You do know that would be impossible, don't you, to surround Russia?
Countries bordering Russia; Length of Border
Country-------------Length (km)
Kazakhstan---------6846
China (SE)----------3605
Mongolia-------------3441
Ukraine---------------1576
Finland---------------1313
Belarus-----------------959
Georgia---------------723
Latvia------------------292
Estonia----------------290
Azerbaijan------------284
Lithuania--------------227
Poland-----------------210
Norway----------------196
China (S)---------------40
North Korea-----------17.5
Japan------------------water
US----------------------water

It is damned ridiculous to believe ISIS could possibly be a greater threat to Europe than Russia could be. Russia's nuclear arsenal is on par with ours. ISIS has no such advantage over Russia.


edited to repair lost formatting #2 ISIS deleted, replaced w/ Russia ~ Thanks Joe!

[JackRiddler]

Apparently "globalist propaganda" is whatever European right-wing anti-immigrant anti-Jew simpletons decide "Soros" supports -- even if it's completely fabricated and falls apart on its own lack of evidence or logic. (As far as Soros is concerned, in this case, it is totally fabricated - look at sounder's last effort for an utterly embarrassing example of why saying sufficiently stupid things and refusing to correct them should be grounds for banning people from this forum. The argument is, "well I imagine that it's the kind of thing he'd do in my fantasy, therefore it is, qed." It falls apart without requiring the outside knowledge that these people have already ruled out, in circular fashion, as globalist propaganda.)

Now let's accuse me of being Victoria Nuland's friend, because that's the only alternative in the world to eating this shit sandwich. This shit being not only that "Soros" (as a stand-in for the Jew-run United States) created "ISIS" single-handedly, but that, in fact, ISIS is not some exaggerated militia by-product of the last few years of U.S.-Saudi policy, but a credible threat to destroy Russia itself! Either you believe that the Jew-run United States is destroying Russia for Israel, and arranging the importation of genetically inferior Islamic jihadis to destroy Europe (or whatever the codewords for this Nazi bilge are today, "Soros" is typical), or you are an agent of Victoria Nuland. No other ground exists!

How is this different from the Republican propaganda about ISIS as a threat to the U.S.? Other than being even dumber? It comes with the same flavor of xenophobia. Good work, confusionists! You're totally winning the uneducated, people-hating, dying old white dumb-fuck demographic.

"Globalist" has become the right-wing vocabulary for those too stupid, old and stubborn to acknowledge that the world as it presently looks predictably follows from a capitalist system: that means a system based on private ownership of the means of production and natural resources, without limits on concentration, and valorizing ROI above all else. If that's the system, the product will always turn into what we have today. It's not bad people who came up with this hundreds of years ago who are responsible, rather it is a system that advances bad people and rewards bad behavior. "Globalist" is about giving dumbfucks and haters and victims of adolescent U.S.-style "libertarian" brainwashing a fantasy enemy, so that they need not confront the fairy tales of the capitalism that has already burned the planet and murdered their grandchildren.

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[tapitsbo]

In Soros' homeland the majority of young people are for better or for worse part of the anti-globalist right you attribute to the old and dying.

If their country accepts Boer refugees we can see anti-refugee polemics from the left!

I for one hope they don't get turned into Ukraine 2.0

[KUAN]

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o for a wise dictator. Nah, she'd be murdered