TRUMP is seriously dangerous

[Grizzly]

I'll vote for him, if only to quicken the entropy so as to recalibrate this whole god-damn horror show. Bring it...

[Nordic]

Except for the overt racism he is kinder and gentler than Obama and Hillary. And all the other Teapubs.

I was going to say he's the true face of America but he really doesn't take it far enough. Obama and Hillary are far more murderous and war criminal and just plain nasty.

But I'm not voting because there's no point. Votes don't count. They haven't since 2000. Everybody enjoys forgetting this. The reality show is too much fun I guess.

[brekin]

Trump is disgusting. He characterizes and is a living caricature of a strain of machismo grossness that will never be extinguished but should not be celebrated and have the mouthpiece of the united states. Sure, Trump is Bill Clinton unplugged, but appearances matter. Having a xenophobic, chauvinist, bully with the mouthpiece of the office of the united states will make Berlesconi and Putin seem like moderates I suspect in a short while.

All politicians made grand promises and can't deliver on them, but Trump always needs a demon, a conflict. Do you think he's going to sober up and try and work with people when what he wants crammed down the governments throat isn't accepted? No, he'll get more militant and confrontational. Trump is like creating a leader out of all the bad qualities of American Businessmen. He is Serpentor.



If I learned anything as I get older, its that it can get worse. Trump is worse.



DONALD TRUMP, AMERICA’S OWN SILVIO BERLUSCONI

Lastly, Berlusconi and Trump have a penchant for self-destruction. The giddiness of public adoration — the narcissistic high of constant media attention — creates a feeling of omnipotence that causes them to make mistakes, as Trump did the other day in resisting the invitation to distance himself from David Duke and the KKK. What Berlusconi did — and Trump follows the same path — is create a kind of ongoing reality show whose ratings depended on him continuing to do and say outrageous things. Berlusconi, as Trump, often overestimated himself and underestimated his opponents. Berlusconi won three times but he also lost twice to a politician (Romano Prodi) who was far duller and far more competent. We have to hope it doesn’t take 17 years for America to tire of the Donald.

https://theintercept.com/2016/03/07/what-the-past-of-silvio-berlusconi-tells-us-about-the-future-of-donald-trump/

[82_28]

Except for the overt racism he is kinder and gentler than Obama and Hillary. And all the other Teapubs.

I was going to say he's the true face of America but he really doesn't take it far enough. Obama and Hillary are far more murderous and war criminal and just plain nasty.

But I'm not voting because there's no point. Votes don't count. They haven't since 2000. Everybody enjoys forgetting this. The reality show is too much fun I guess.

If Sanders makes it I'll vote. If not, prez gets left blank.

[seemslikeadream]

Louis C.K. Compares Donald Trump to Hitler: ‘He’s an Insane Bigot’

News Editor, Variety.com

MARCH 5, 2016 | 09:21AM PT
Louis C.K. is the latest public figure to criticize Donald Trump, calling him an “insane bigot” and comparing him to Adolf Hitler.

In a Saturday morning email blast announcing the sixth episode of his web series “Horace and Pete,” C.K. included a lengthy postscript urging readers not to vote for Trump.

“Please stop it with voting for Trump,” C.K. writes. “It was funny for a little while. But the guy is Hitler. And by that I mean that we are being Germany in the ’30s. Do you think they saw the sh-t coming? Hitler was just some hilarious and refreshing dude with a weird comb over who would say anything at all.”

Later in the email, C.K. implores his conservative readers to vote for a different GOP candidate.

“We shouldn’t have to vote for someone because they’re not a shocking c— billionaire liar,” C.K. writes. “We should choose based on what direction the country should go… If you are a true conservative. Don’t vote for Trump. He is not one of you. He is one of him. Everything you have heard him say that you liked, if you look hard enough you will see that he one day said the exact opposite. He is playing you.”

C.K. added, “Trump is not your best. He’s the worst of all of us. He’s a symptom to a problem that is very real. But don’t vote for your own cancer. You’re better than that.”

See the full postscript below:

P.S. Please stop it with voting for Trump. It was funny for a little while. But the guy is Hitler. And by that I mean that we are being Germany in the 30s. Do you think they saw the shit coming? Hitler was just some hilarious and refreshing dude with a weird comb over who would say anything at all.

And I’m not advocating for Hillary or Bernie. I like them both but frankly I wish the next president was a conservative only because we had Obama for eight years and we need balance. And not because I particularly enjoy the conservative agenda. I just think the government should reflect the people. And we are about 40 percent conservative and 40 percent liberal. When I was growing up and when I was a younger man, liberals and conservatives were friends with differences. They weren’t enemies. And it always made sense that everyone gets a president they like for a while and then hates the president for a while. But it only works if the conservatives put up a good candidate. A good smart conservative to face the liberal candidate so they can have a good argument and the country can decide which way to go this time.

Trump is not that. He’s an insane bigot. He is dangerous.

He already said he would expand libel laws to sue anyone who “writes a negative hit piece” about him. He says “I would open up the libel laws so we can sue them and win lots of money. Not like now. These guys are totally protected.” He said that. He has promised to decimate the first amendment. (If you think he’s going to keep the second amendment intact you’re delusional.) And he said that Paul Ryan, speaker of the house will “pay” for criticizing him. So I’m saying this now because if he gets in there we won’t be able to criticize him anymore.
Please pick someone else. Like John Kasich. I mean that guy seems okay. I don’t like any of them myself but if you’re that kind of voter please go for a guy like that. It feels like between him and either democrat we’d have a decent choice. It feels like a healthier choice. We shouldn’t have to vote for someone because they’re not a shocking cunt billionaire liar.

We should choose based on what direction the country should go.

I get that all these people sound like bullshit soft criminal opportunists. The whole game feels rigged and it’s not going anywhere but down anymore. I feel that way sometimes.

And that voting for Trump is a way of saying “fuck it. Fuck them all”. I really get it. It’s a version of national Suicide. Or it’s like a big hit off of a crack pipe. Somehow we can’t help it. Or we know that if we vote for Trump our phones will be a reliable source of dopamine for the next four years. I mean I can’t wait to read about Trump every day. It’s a rush. But you have to know this is not healthy.

If you are a true conservative. Don’t vote for Trump. He is not one of you. He is one of him. Everything you have heard him say that you liked, if you look hard enough you will see that he one day said the exact opposite. He is playing you.

In fact, if you do vote for Trump, at least look at him very carefully first. You owe that to the rest of us. Know and understand who he is. Spend one hour on google and just read it all. I don’t mean listen to me or listen to liberals who put him down. Listen to your own people. Listen to John Mccain. Go look at what he just said about Trump. “At a time when our world has never been more complex or more in danger… I want Republican voters to pay close attention to what our party’s most respected and knowledgeable leaders and national security experts are saying about Mr. Trump, and to think long and hard about who they want to be our next Commander-in-Chief and leader of the free world.”

When Trump was told what he said, Trump said “Oh, he did? Well, that’s not nice,” he told CBS News’ chief White House correspondent Major Garrett. “He has to be very careful.”
When pressed on why, Trump tacked on: “He’ll find out.”

(I cut and pasted that from CBS news)

Do you really want a guy to be president who threatens John McCain? Because John McCain cautiously and intelligently asked for people to be thoughtful before voting for him? He didn’t even insult Trump. He just asked you to take a good look. And Trump told him to look out.

Remember that Trump entered this race by saying that McCain is not a war hero. A guy who was shot down, body broken and kept in a POW camp for years. Trump said “I prefer the guys who don’t get caught.” Why did he say that? Not because he meant it or because it was important to say. He said it because he’s a bully and every bully knows that when you enter a new school yard, you go to the toughest most respected guy on the yard and you punch him in the nose. If you are still standing after, you’re the new boss. If Trump is president, he’s not going to change. He’s not going to do anything for you. He’s going to do everything for himself and leave you in the dust.

So please listen to fellow conservatives. But more importantly, listen to Trump. Listen to all of it. Everything he says. If you liked when he said that “torture works” then go look at where he took it back the next day. He’s a fucking liar.

A vote for Trump is so clearly a gut-vote, and again I get it. But add a little brain to it and look the guy up. Because if you vote for him because of how you feel right now, the minute he’s president, you’re going to regret it. You’re going to regret it even more when he gives the job to his son. Because American democracy is broken enough that a guy like that could really fuck things up. That’s how Hitler got there. He was voted into power by a fatigued nation and when he got inside, he did all his Hitler things and no one could stop him.

Again, I’m not saying vote democrat or vote for anyone else. If Hilary ends up president it should be because she faced the best person you have and you and I both chose her or him or whoever. Trump is not your best. He’s the worst of all of us. He’s a symptom to a problem that is very real. But don’t vote for your own cancer. You’re better than that.

That’s just my view. At least right now. I know I’m not qualified or particularly educated and I’m not right instead of you. I’m an idiot and I’m sure a bunch of you are very annoyed by this. Fucking celebrity with an opinion. I swear this isn’t really a political opinion. You don’t want to know my political opinions. (And I know that I’m only bringing myself trouble with this shit.) Trump has nothing to do with politics or ideology. He has to do with himself. And really I don’t mean to insult anyone. Except Trump. I mean to insult him very much. And really I’m not saying he’s evil or a monster. In fact I don’t think Hitler was. The problem with saying that guys like that are monsters is that we don’t see them coming when they turn out to be human, which they all are. Everyone is. Trump is a messed up guy with a hole in his heart that he tries to fill with money and attention. He can never ever have enough of either and he’ll never stop trying. He’s sick. Which makes him really really interesting. And he pulls you towards him which somehow feels good or fascinatingly bad. He’s not a monster. He’s a sad man. But all this makes him horribly dangerous if he becomes president. Give him another TV show. Let him pay to put his name on buildings. But please stop voting for him. And please watch Horace and Pete.

[Grizzly]

Geez, SLAD I found that interesting, but hard to follow the repeat post of reading what he wrote.

[kool maudit]

Hitler was a guy who signalled his intentions years before gaining power with Mein Kampf. He was a guy involved with street-fighting politics for years, a local militant. He wasn't just someone who rallied people with "we're not gonna take it anymore"-style charisma and then whipped the curtain aside, "haha! and now my secret plan will come to fruition!" He openly wanted to be a dictator and cause all sorts of violence. He had no family and was lone, marginal.

Trump is a brassy Manhattan real-estate developer whose focus until very recently was the construction and management of hotels and condominium buildings. He has a large family who are involved in his affairs. In my view, it is not that Trump is like Hitler but that America is like Weimar Germany. That's what people are picking up on. That's the psychic echo.

In terms of the candidates on offer, it is Hillary who resembles Hitler insofar as she maintains an expansive and imperialist foreign policy. Where Hitler maintained the need for "lebensraum and the Germanisation of the East", Hillary and the neocons have since the early 2000s pushed for control and Americanisation of the Near East. When she was planning the Libyan putsch, says the New York Times, "Mrs. Clinton was won over [when] opposition leaders 'said all the right things about supporting democracy and inclusivity'". If we can measure such a thing as "Islamophobia*" in terms of Muslim casualities rather than rhetorical gestures, it is Ms. Clinton whose record is the bloodiest.

(There is, of course, no such thing as "Islamophobia". Islam, like Christianity or Communism or any other system of societal organization, makes specific claims about who we are, what we should be, and how we should act. Though these can be interpreted in any number of ways, they remain claims of truth that can be opposed or contested either individually or as a whole. There is nothing wrong or pathological about opposing the truth claims of a religion or proposed social order, or contesting any or all of its specific manifestations. But there is, again of course, something deeply wrong about killing one's fellow human beings.)

[JackRiddler]

Except for the overt racism he is kinder and gentler than Obama and Hillary. And all the other Teapubs.

I was going to say he's the true face of America but he really doesn't take it far enough. Obama and Hillary are far more murderous and war criminal and just plain nasty.

But I'm not voting because there's no point. Votes don't count. They haven't since 2000. Everybody enjoys forgetting this. The reality show is too much fun I guess.

If Sanders makes it I'll vote. If not, prez gets left blank.

Jill Stein.

[82_28]

True.

[Luther Blissett]

Jill Stein in this cycle is the first presidential candidate I've ever donated to. I just want her to stick around to the general.

[Grizzly]

Jill Stein/ Cynthia McKinney!

Stein/ McKenney 2016!

[Grizzly]

Jill Stein/ Cynthia McKinney!

Stein/Mckinney 2016!

[Luther Blissett]

I thought that was real for a second. Damn.

[NeonLX]

Aww, he ain't dangerous. Not by this country's standards, anyway...

[seemslikeadream]

Dancing with the Stars' Marla Maples once discussed Donald Trump sex life on 'Designing Women'

on March 08, 2016 at 1:49 PM, updated March 08, 2016 at 2:00 PM

Donald Trump's ex wife once appeared on the show "Designing Women" to discuss her life with the mogul. (Contributed photo/YouTube)
Decades before joining the cast of "Dancing with the Stars," Marla Maples played herself on an episode of the sitcom "Designing Women" to discuss her then-estranged boyfriend.

That boyfriend? Current Republican presidential front runner Donald Trump.

In the early 1990s, Maples and Trump had engaged in a high profile affair while he was still married to his first wife, Ivanka. At the time of her appearance on "Designing Women" the two had broken up though they later reconciled and married in 1993. The couple had one daughter, Tiffany, before divorcing in 1999.

"The Donald"

The 1991 sitcom, filmed during Maples' and Trump's brief estrangement, features the Georgia native consoling one of the characters over her cancelled wedding.

"I still love Donald but he has to be the one who went out and told the press that he went out and dumped me. You know why? So he can look like the big stud then. That's just how it is when you go out with someone is rich and powerful. You get the short end of the stick," Maples said.


"Oh...so that's what the problem was," Jan Hook's character Carlene replies.

Maples was then asked about her comments that Trump was the "best sex (she'd) ever had."

"Hey, you know he's not the only one who lies to the press," she replies.

The episode ends with Dixie Carter's character Julia Sugarbaker using a telephone number left behind by Maples to call the high-profile real estate developer:

"Hello? Mr. Trump? I hope I'm not disturbing you. I'm just calling you to say -- on behalf of the American public -- Mr. Trump, we no longer care who you date, we really don't. You are no longer obligated to alert the news media every time your pants are on fire because we don't care. So please feel free to fire all your hacks, flacks and publicists employed for this purpose because -- and I repeat -- we...don't...care! Who am I? Well, you've never met me, but you can just call me....The Julia.

You can watch the complete episode below. Maples' appearance starts at 19 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5A7yv9bZAE