Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

[Occult Means Hidden]

omh wrote:
As I've said, the reality of weaponized migration is a complete non factor. The factor is, if we call them weapons, how will we come to view refugees/migrant in the future? As people needing help or as a threat to be neutralized? Classifying them as weapons dehumanizes them.

Respectfully, I don't understand the disconnect with this. Nobody here at this forum, far as I can tell, is attempting to exacerbate this unfortunate situation.

Some of us me, alice, slad, etc...are pointing out the fact that THERE IS an effort being made to weaponize the refugees and that is apparent (to me). Nobody in this forum is attempting to weaponize these people or incite such a thing, as far as I can see.

We are simply pointing out the fact that it is being done by the power elite. So whats the problem? We all agree that it is a horrible thing and that all involved will suffer.

We are simply pointing out that IT IS being done by the same cabal that bombed these poor souls into the stone age.

You're right, there is a big disconnect here. Allow me to put this another way.

What happens when there is a war?

You protect yourself from the weaponry and you destroy the means of war that the enemy attempts to unleash upon you.

What happens when the weaponry is migrants / refugees?

You protect yourself by rounding them up, keeping track of them, expelling them, building a wall to keep them out or otherwise exterminating them.

No one on this board may be exacerbating the situation. However as we've clearly been observing, there is a remarkable bias rising. In the U.S. Trump is calling Mexicans rapists and murderers. If you listen to his speech, he says that, "Mexico is sending us..." these rapists and murderers. As if, Mexico is waging war. And as punishment he will, "make them pay for a wall". Replace with Turkey or EU or "Zionists" in Europe and you have a more advanced situation. At some point the U.S. situation will advance to the "war" narrative. Mexico is waging "war" on the U.S. That's why an idea like, "Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe" is attractive to the right.

Political considerations are completely secondary, especially when half the time there is spurious proof of the political mechanizations- Turkey yes, Soros no. Primary considerations are the safety of those who are escaping violence and poverty.

As commentary on the OP, some are quick to point out that a conservative source originally postulates migration as weaponry. The choice of the word "weapon" is telling. It would be more accurate here (such as in the case of Turkey) to state that migrants/refugees are and have been used as "bargaining chips". The word use is deliberate. Refugees haven't been used as bargaining chips. They've been used as weapons. The difference is one is a victim, the other is a threat. We may think we are being objective by merely describing the situation that victimizes the refugees, but instead we are embracing the narrative that others will use to evil ends.

[American Dream]

SECURITY CHIEF: ANARCHISTS ARE HELPING MIGRANTS ILLEGALLY ENTER HUNGARY

2016-03-07

Citing information from the secret services, Hungarian Prime Minister’s chief security advisor has claimed that anarchist groups have appeared among migrants in certain areas and are assisting them in illegal attempts to cross the country’s border, including providing tools with which to cut through border security fences.



The Hungarian Prime Minister’s chief security advisor has claimed that illegal migrants are receiving help from anarchist groups in certain areas

[FourthBase]

SECURITY CHIEF: ANARCHISTS ARE HELPING MIGRANTS ILLEGALLY ENTER HUNGARY

2016-03-07

Citing information from the secret services, Hungarian Prime Minister’s chief security advisor has claimed that anarchist groups have appeared among migrants in certain areas and are assisting them in illegal attempts to cross the country’s border, including providing tools with which to cut through border security fences.



The Hungarian Prime Minister’s chief security advisor has claimed that illegal migrants are receiving help from anarchist groups in certain areas

Zionist anarchists?

[slimmouse]

Zionist anarchists?

Thats quite a powerful oxymoron you got going there 4B

The elitist anarchists are the ones doing the bombing in the first place. You appear to be focusing on the results, Which are good for the elitist anarchists, but not so good for true human beings such as you and me.

The point being its all so fucking senseless and unneccesary. - unless that is youre an elitist anarchist, for whom it would appear to be vital.

[AlicetheKurious]

Allow me to put this another way.

What happens when there is a war?

You protect yourself from the weaponry and you destroy the means of war that the enemy attempts to unleash upon you.

What happens when the weaponry is migrants / refugees?

You protect yourself by rounding them up, keeping track of them, expelling them, building a wall to keep them out or otherwise exterminating them.

What happens when the weaponry is your own grandchildren? This happened to an elderly Palestinian woman I used to know, who lived in Beit Hanoun. The occupation soldiers invaded her town a few years ago, and stormed into her home. They grabbed her two grandsons, who were 10 and 12, pushed them up against a window overlooking the street, then proceeded to shoot at the neighbors from behind the boys. They weaponized the boys, and used them to kill people. Nobody blamed the children, thank God, but that's because the entire community was capable of correctly identifying the true criminals, and their minds could encompass the fact that the children could be used by the criminals in a very destructive way, and at the same time be blameless themselves.



Is such understanding beyond you?

[AlicetheKurious]

Victoria "Fuck Europe" Nuland's husband is the rabid Zionist (I mean "neocon") strategist Robert Kagan. Would that be 0 or 1 degree of separation?

[American Dream]

The fact is that while the imperialist ruling circles in the usa and across the west want to utilise a main tool in their oppressive apparatus which is white supremacy racism to divide and divert people from uniting against the ruling circles, they also want to have the monopoly of power and control and do NOT want to lose control of their societies, hence the the ruling classes across the west are constantly playing with the fire of their own arson: they play up racialised divisions on all levels of society, and then control the fall out to maintain some law and order to as to continue making their money etc.

The new fascists have a warped and weird paranoid fantasy about the 'white genocide' and all manner of anxieties that spring from the fact that the white colonial / imperialist western world domination is nearing its end, that the billions of victims of colonialism and imperialism are sending tiny but for the west significant numbers into the west to take some crumbs from the millions of tons of loot stolen from us by genocide and rape of 500 years of colonialism and imperialism. All of this is making these freaks go nuts, but they are getting increasingly angry and will be looking to lash out. In the instance of the trump rally, the trump supporters are already demanding revenge. They have been humiliated in a major usa city, in front of many thousands of their loyalists etc.

My guess is that the usa authorities will be trying to keep a lid on this vengeful white fascism, but the genie is out of the bottle to a large extent as well, bigoted mass white hate is out to get anyone and everyone who is not responsible for the slow collapse of their society (targeting especially refugees and migrants, which is a very thin veil for attacking all Black and Asian people, and east european people are not far up from the imperialist hierarchy from Black n Asian people!).

Black and Asian people have got comfortable, but we are here in massive numbers and will never be moved, and we have and do fight off any considerably provocation. Our movement to come here and expand will not be stopped. The western white left is on its arse, as it has been for decades, much of it is joining in with the new fascist current, including self professed 'maxists' and 'socialists' who are pro-actively promoting fascists in our ranks just as they are attacking me in their typically obsessive stalky threatning manner. But the growing conflicts will continue. Black and Asian people and their white allies must hold the line and neutralise all provocations. But while in the usa there is a much more healthier radical scene developing, the rest of the west and this country will not see any serious take up of radical organising until there is somewhere in the world a real clear militant anti-imperialist socialist upsurge that can give some clarity of leadership and world-shaking example of victories.

--Sukant Chandan

[Wombaticus Rex]

The new fascists have a warped and weird paranoid fantasy about the 'white genocide' and all manner of anxieties that spring from the fact that the white colonial / imperialist western world domination is nearing its end

Nobody at Davos or Bilderberg are talking about white genocide; nobody talking about white genocide is part of the "imperialist ruling circles in the usa"

[American Dream]

Neo-confederates, boneheads, white separatists, Nazis, third position fascists, anti-immigrant reactionaries, anti-Semites, Islamophobes, violent racists, and many others of that ilk do use the trope of "White genocide" and other such victimization scripts to justify bigotry and violence, as we see all too often here.

As such, they are the antithesis of what Rigorous Intuition was always supposed to be.

[jakell]

Neo-confederates, boneheads, white separatists, Nazis, third position fascists, anti-immigrant reactionaries, anti-Semites, Islamophobes, violent racists, and many others of that ilk do use the trope of "White genocide" and other such victimization scripts to justify bigotry and violence, as we see all too often here.

As such, they are the antithesis of what Rigorous Intuition was always supposed to be.

Actually AD, you'll find that the most WN's who use this term realise that it is is largely hyperbole, but also that such rhetorical statements are what gets you noticed. As such, it's not really used as a justification for anything, nothing new has come from its invention.

[kool maudit]

Neo-confederates, boneheads, white separatists, Nazis, third position fascists, anti-immigrant reactionaries, anti-Semites, Islamophobes, violent racists, and many others of that ilk do use the trope of "White genocide" and other such victimization scripts to justify bigotry and violence, as we see all too often here.

As such, they are the antithesis of what Rigorous Intuition was always supposed to be.

Don't worry, what we are going to do is make some changes to moderation here. It's quicker, easier and more permanent than trying to win arguments, engage in arguments, or post the arguments of others without any extended comment.

There are bad people in here, people of certain types, and when they are removed we will be more in line with what this place was supposed to be.

I hope we are all on board.

[AlicetheKurious]

I hope we are all on board.

I think the whole point of AD's lament is that it shouldn't matter whether we are or not. His point of view is the only right one, and everyone who disagrees should be silenced.

That's what he means by "anti-fascism".

[Searcher08]

Neo-confederates, boneheads, white separatists, Nazis, third position fascists, anti-immigrant reactionaries, anti-Semites, Islamophobes, violent racists, and many others of that ilk do use the trope of "White genocide" and other such victimization scripts to justify bigotry and violence, as we see all too often here.

As such, they are the antithesis of what Rigorous Intuition was always supposed to be.

Spencer Sunshine fanbois, Hoiler-than-Thous of America, Freedom From Feedbackers, Re-education Committees for a Better Tomorrow, Batters for Team MicroAggression, Israel Firsters, Hasbara Propagators United, The Solace Soros Sympathisers 1-Up Circle, Confederation to not speak of a Fascist Israel, Muscled Far Right HomoErotic Art Curators, Copy Pasta for Victory supporters, The Revolution Will Be CrossPosted supporters, Occupiers Against Occupy, Fascists against Fascism, Flounce against Fascism, Confused Anti-Fa of Boise,LibCom Rebroadcaster League,
Llanfair­pwllgwyngyll­gogery­chwyrn­drobwll­llan­tysilio­gogo­goch Anti-Fa,
Interrogators against PaleoConservative Moderators, The Peoples Popular Front of Anti-Fa (splitters), PseudoQuasiHeteroNormativePatriarchalAnarchists.anti.fa, Brass Knuckles And Sharp Pointy Things Peace Collective, The League against Meanies, The Ilumminutty Imperium, Hipster BeardGrowers Association, NeoBuddhistLite-Fascists, "With us or Against us" against Fascist Binary Thinkers, Campaign for more Anti-Fa posts on R.I., NOW!, Borg Collective, against Fascism, Romulan Senate Members, Pon Fa Anti-Fa, Three Way Love Muffin Anti-Fa, How to Win Friends and AntiFa them, Klingon Flower Arrangers, Six Degrees of David Icke sustaining members, KKK Anti-Fa, "I am not a reductionist" reductionists, Logic-free DoubleQuotes Post "Critical Thinkers", I don't hate Russia' Russiophobes, Angry White Manlets against Woo, Totalitarians Against Fascism , The Self-Inflating Windbags Union and many others of that elk
use tropes of "critical thinking", "WOO", "TIDS", "fighting fascism", "Far Right hunk love" and "the vague list of sketchy characters" to justify violence, intellectual bankruptcy, totalitarianism, and future enslavement with a mailed fist under a 'Cognitive Liberty for All' banner with a There are *Five* Fingers logo.

[semper occultus]

.....down with Fascism i say....

[American Dream]

Communists:

Refugee crisis: how Greeks opened their hearts to strangers




Compassion, kindness, generosity of spirit: all three apply to Panayiota Drougas and her husband, Dimitris, as they pace the platform of the train station at Idomeni.

There is no reason in the world that they should be here. Idomeni, at the best of times, is a godforsaken place: bleak, barren and infused with a melancholy typical of remote border posts. It is a starkness made more haunting still by the thousands of refugees who, following the railway tracks that have led them to this northern corner of Greece, now live in a squalid camp that has sprung up around the Macedonian frontier – which is, of course, why the couple are here.

“We saw their little faces on television, all these children, so hungry, so tired, and just wanted to help,” says Panayiota, a retired headteacher, handing out the 150 chocolate-filled croissants the pair have brought with them. “They are refugees – they don’t want to be here,” she sighs, eyes streaming in the cold. “We see it as our duty to show them that someone cares. We’re going to spread the word, tell former colleagues and friends to do the same.”

They are not alone. The conviction that compelled the couple to purchase the croissants, get into their car and make the drive from Thessaloniki is one that many appear to share.

Hardship, Greeks have discovered, comes in different shades. For six years they may have been in the eye of the great eurozone storm, buffeted by the depredations of austerity, the byproduct of their worst crisis in modern times.

But the sight of thousands of refugees stranded on their shores, often with little more than the clothes on their backs, has now taken them somewhere else. As the numbers have grown so, too, have the acts of altruism – some recorded, some never seen – nationwide.

In Idomeni, pensioners struggling to make ends meet buy two loaves of bread, one to share with those who have descended on their tiny community; elsewhere, villagers open their homes. On Aegean islands that have borne the brunt of the influx, shops – hard hit by plummeting consumption – donate supplies.

In Athens, where passenger terminals, parks and public squares have been turned into chaotic reception centres, Greeks of all backgrounds and ages have rushed to join the relief effort. Everywhere, NGOs speak of an explosion of giving that has taken them aback. “I could tell you so many stories,” says Caroline Haga, a Finn seconded for the past four months to the country, with the International Red Cross. “In Samos and Chios, recently, every shopkeeper I met wanted to give something for the children. It’s amazing, considering what they’ve been going through themselves. And more and more, every day, are signing up as volunteers.”

It’s a generosity of spirit that has not been lost on recipients. With Greece’s impoverished state structure stretched to breaking point, refugees have been dependent on the kindness of strangers. “The Greek police are terrible,” says Amar Souadi, an Iraqi, standing on the bluff where he has pitched his tent in the mud fields that are now home to the refugees in Idomeni. “But the Greek people are very good,” he exclaims, breaking into a smile.

“In Kos island my wife, Selma, gave birth. They did everything for us. Look, here is my boy, Kasum, he is 10 days old. We didn’t want to make this journey but in Baghdad I worked as a translator for a British oil company and people saw me as a traitor. Look at my arm, look at my stomach, look at these [gun] wounds.”

In the coming months, EU officials predict that as many as 150,000 migrants and refugees could reach the country. By Friday, 42,000 were recorded across Greece. Any hopes of the numbers dropping as a result of the draft deal agreed between the bloc and Turkey to stem the tide have not been borne out.


Children receive a free meal at a restaurant on the island of Kos.

Reaction to the flows could have gone either way; and with the closure last week of Europe’s Balkan corridor by Macedonia and other states, it could yet change. On the back of economic collapse, the anti-immigrant, neo-fascist Golden Dawn has emerged, and held sway, as the third-biggest political force. The prospect of Greece becoming a permanent base for refugees would not only place extra pressure on society, but inject it with renewed vitality.


“Everything we are seeing has been a pleasant surprise,” says Melia Eleftheriadi, an employee with the Athens prefecture. “The feeling, right now, is we live under the same sun. We fall in love under the same moon. We are all human – we have to help these people.’

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/m ... s-migrants